OASIS vs ROBBIE WILLIAMS: The Twenty Years War 

Definitely unexpected, coming from Liam. Very admirable and respectable. 😮

Oh my god absolutely he’s a class drummer

Great drummer. His brother's better though!

@@IAC7697 I believe if I'm not mistaken Alan got the gig through his brother right?

@@DanielTortoledovideos probably, not sure mate, they're both great. I'd imagine they probably pushed each other to improve

I’m the same. I’m a big fan of both. If I was on Desert Island Discs, they’d both at least be on my shortlist. But I’m a bit younger than them, from near where Oasis are from, so identified with them, and went to the same rehab that Robbie wrote ‘Angels’ (which Noel said he wished he’d written, remember). There are angels in the main entrance hall in the corners and some church people who came every week told me he spent a lot of time in there lying on the benches, as did I. There’s a pond with fish in too. Guess my taste is quite eclectic as I don’t mind a bit of Eine Kleine Nachtmusik, too. Why close yourself off to beauty in this world, however it comes, and from who?

@@abcxyz53 how many people have you played for then?

Considering the amount of people who wanted tickets to see Oasis they could have sold out five consecutive shows at Nebworth. When you saw Nebworth you associate with Oasis.

He was right.

@@Davide-zc5np Yep. The Netflix documentary tells all.

That's guaranteed to be the deeper than Deeper Deeperson diving down to the bottom of the Marianas Trench.

Hmm, that's one of the topics absolutely played to death in the media...good thing about James's channel is he deep-dives topics that are less scrutinised...there's at least 20 docs featuring info about that chart battle

It's really quite simple and the tale includes something I've never heard or seen anyone mention. Blur had a CD1 and CD2 of 'Country House' and Oasis just had 1 CD single of 'Roll With It'. Simple marketing move.

@@LeroybrownLR3mk02what does that even mean?

@@Rose_19911 It's simple. Read it again. Blur put out a CD1 and CD2 of Country House. A lot of Blur fans bought both, thus 2 copies of the single were sold.

@@abcxyz53 don’t think they made him suicidal, he was already like that from the get go. Oasis were close to becoming more of a nostalgia act. Yes they still had/have a large following, but their music by then wasn’t as relevant or interesting. I said the Brit awards had lost its edge. Even so, I think they have ‘outdone’ Robbie and Blur yeah.

I would agree, his first two albums kind of slid under the radar (especially his first) and probably most his biggest hits are on those two (especially his first album, which often gets over looked), but there was probably a period from 1999-2002 after he had found his feet as a solo artist where a Robbie album was getting more hype in the build up to its release than a Oasis album was.... I think Noel probably took a shine to Robbie a lot more than he let on, but like a lot of these guys over the year, once that shine wore off, he was fast to throw them under the bus, and as usual, used Liam as his mouth piece (this is one thing I have noticed since the split.... it used to be Liam that would come out with the "controversial" comments, and Noel would sweep in and look like he was the level headed one.... but since the break up, Liam has completely mellowed, and Noel has become something of the "bitter" one)

You ain't lying brother I had no idea til this video that he was that popular . In America he's a total joke . Known for that lame boy band and fighting with oasis. But never knew he was that huge. Learn something new everyday. Cheers to him. cheers to oasis 🍻

You could say that about any pop star....all about marketing and the odd good co-writer/producer...then it just snowballs... funny that oasis/beady eye and high flying birds have all used the legendary Chris Sharrock on drums though

Some of his songs were ok but his performance was always naff

Spot on

He’s not my cup of tea at all, but fair play mate he f*ckin smashed it in the 00’s

"If I'd go solo I would be enormous" - Noel. Yikes what happened there Noel? Doesn't look like it worked out 😬

​@@mainsmainNot like Noel to talk bollocks for the clicks, ey. I'd also say musically his solo stuff has been a large success. Robbie had 2 bangers 20 years ago, woopie.

@@T0FFII Robbie alone has sold the same amount of records as Oasis, if you add Take That he has outsold them, not bad for a fattie

That’s not a chat show it’s the Glastonbury coverage

​@lucasm3879 OP might be talking about Robbie on the bed saying he was gay. And 90s chat shows were definitely laid back. No one was scared they were going to be cancelled!

No I remember this and he said it at the.nme or q awards when on his way out

None of that changes the fact that Liam would absolutely brutalise Robbie

@@billymurray1687 No chance. Liam is a gobshite and as weak as a kitten. Proper mouthy twat who is more of a bumping chests in yor face shouting merchant. Robbie worksout occasionally and does a bit of boxing training.

@@billymurray1687 how'd you work that one out. Liam and Robbie were both all mouth it would have just been handbags

I'd like to see Mandela come back and fight that guy who died in prison in the 80s.

I always thought he was gay.

@@leemcqueen500 Fuck knows, he could be and just be mega closeted due to internal shame.

He's a narcissist. The only thing that makes a narcissist happy is being the centre of attention. Liam's a narcissist too though.

Well he is married to a man

‘When oasis get back together, remember you’ll never be as big as I am’ aged well. Seven nights at Wembley

When take that split up, Robbie was not even the one that everyone thought would have a career...... most the media had made their mind up that Gary Barlow had the talent that he would get by, and Mark Owen was the one that everyone thought would be the dark horse who would go on to have the best solo career...yet both have hardly done anything as solo artists, and Robbie went from strength to strength. Also, Liam for his albums relies on a team of 4 or 5 song writers to help him (Liam relies very heavily on Greg Kurstin and Andrew Wyatt as his song writing partners)

@@clark82 Gary Barlow was the far more musically talented of the two - but Robbie Williams had more ‘star power’ (plus he had songs written for him). He’s just a natural performer, not a natural musician, that’s how shallow pop music is.

A dance troupe

I don’t think Robbie is a narcissist as he has self loathing. Unlike the Gallagher brothers who are in love with themselves. They’re much more narcissistic than Robbie.

@@daniellefrancis1476in love with themselves or in love with each other lol

Respect rock music and some musicians of its genre but HATE the (majority) fans, that spread hate everywhere for different preferension genre music-listeners...think only their 'taste' that cool, serious music...

@@tigertot4935 agreed and some Oasis fans are toxic too. It’s like they try to one up each other to see who is the “bigger” fan. It’s nonsense really, especially when the band have always said that Oasis is for everyone and not for the select few.

Me and my monkey was a fucking tune as well

@@abcxyz53 if u say that he doesnt write his own stuff is because u dont know what u are talking about. He does

I think Robbie has the better ear when it comes to Singles (most his first 3/4 albums, you take the 3 or 4 big hit singles off them, and its mostly rubbish filler stuff).... Oasis it was a case of albums filled with stadium anthems, some of which maybe don;t translate as good as singles. So I would say Oasis have the better album history, but Robbie has the better singles history

He started most of the fights,

@@startracker5895 sounds childish

@@startracker5895 I don’t think he did ? They were making lots of fat jibes at him and calling his music rubbish

@@mod4it87 he said he wanted sex and a fight with Liam. Obviously that was going to wind Liam up. And Noel was the one who slagged off Robbie off the most.

@@startracker5895 I love Oasis a lot more than the Robster and their digs at him were pretty funny to me but yeah they got fed up of him hanging around so went indifferent then got jealous that he was becoming successful (probably more so with them having given him more credibility in the indie / Brit pop arena , contacts ie Owen Morris , Tim abbot, music reporters like Paul marthur etc ) as they were dimming a bit and massively laid into him publicly for his weight issues etc. On top of that Liam was now dating his ex that aborted his (Robbie’s) child. Liam instigated the fight before the Brit awards by saying that he would break Robbie’s nose following the wreath he sent to the sun. I would assume the reason Robbie said he wanted to shag Liam is because when asked why he doesn’t like him etc his only reason is for the Nicole thing and them berating him. Liam is seen as much more as an alpha male than Robbie who is aware that a lot of people think he is gay so it’s like people like Liam wanna mock me for being seemingly gay it’s more funny right now to not defend that but say I wanna have sex with him. Robbie always loved oasis and Liam and you can tell really he just wanted to be accepted by them again. If he was accepted by them he knows he would also be discredited less by the public / oasis fans who copied their insults , particularly the ‘fat dancer’ which has stuck for years. When Liam threatened to break his nose I think Robbie just thought well I know if I put you up for a televised fight I know you’ll publicly admit that that’s not gonna happen and if we do fight I’m gonna properly train and likely kick your arse. It’s also an opportunity to get in the papers and get lots of attention , which of course they did. I think they all had a love/ hate relationship with the press and that was him loving some attention whoring along the way.

Guys I apologise it could be 7 nights at Wembley, someone tell Robbie to stop crying his heart out

Didn't he do one already

@@wirelad2007 his last five albums have all been released mid November, perfectly timed for that Christmas cash-in.

They already have and it's just the UK and Ireland leg.

Especially with the Gallaghers. They seem to turn on anybody they get close to rather than let a friendship fizzle out or downgrade it by seeing less of each other.

@@eadweard. I stand corrected! Thanks :)

I always felt like he didn't really belong in Take That as he was too individualistic.

​@@lemsip207Aww, you still love Robbie, yeah?.. (Bless)... 🤔😆😜

@@bluehorizons2508 I never said I did. Go away.

@@lemsip207 thought the same as I always thought he should be in Oasis!

@daniellefrancis1476 He would have to play an instrument though. Gary Barlow was the only one who played one in Take That's music. I don't know if the others privately played them.

Wild = Shite 😊👍

@@shaunw9270 I mean celebrity culture everywhere is shit really. Ours is just as smelly and we're better at exporting it all over the world. Yours just comes off as wacky to me because it's different.

Robbie and his group where just a UK version of New Kids On The Block

He’s great and you’re a nobody

In the other words, he has wide range...you just would express admiration in cinycal way 😋

@Astro Jenkins Bowie was doing something more complicated though. Cringe or not, Bowie's personas were inventive combinations of oddball stuff he happened to be into at any given time (astronauts, pierrot clowns, zoot suits, sci-fi novels). Robbie would just find someone he liked and copy them wholesale.

@@neonatalpenguin sounds like Noel finding out about the Beatles and T-Rex and copying their style then. Oasis’ music was great but not revolutionary at all and they lost it after Be Here Now. They should have quit whilst they were ahead

I thought that, Robbie was never anywhere close.

he always needed the public sympathy vote when it all was not so well

It’s from a show called “star stories. It was on in the early 2010s

speaking for the people

@@julianmartinez5386 we don't claim to be perfect, but we're free

i'm Gen Z & people of my generation don't know who Robbie Williams is but they know Liam Gallagher.

Robbie is doing fine.

He's playing gigs in Europe to the nostalgic crowd. Hasn't had a decent song since 2003 non I can remember anyway.

Robbie did a concert in Munich for 100 000 just two weeks ago =))

@@alexshelepin5382 oasis fans are less intelligent than the average person unfortunately

And oasis are just infinitely cooler in general, take that are a joke

I remember when my Mom took me and my brother to see Take That at Wembley Stadium

@@JeffHongchang thoughts? Shit?

@@JeffHongchang are you Simon from inbetweeners by any chance? 😂

Cry baby

How many networth that fat dancer compare to him...how his carrier running right now...just a joke, and hype of nostalgic...

I mean, it's all pop music really.

@@myenemysenemy1043 it is, but the longevity is what makes bands and artists legendary

I wouldn’t classify his music as rock music so your talking threw your behind

@@myenemysenemy1043 It's all jazz to me La.

@@zenon459 but the song Angels will probably live on longer than wonderwall or don't look back in anger. It's like the perfect pop tune. (I prefer don't look back in anger).

We?your children might need that!

Ha ha cool story. What was Michael Hutchence up to in the airport?

Wasn’t that what Melanie C said at the Brits to Liam?

Wow! What seduction courses have you been taking, Peter? Save some pussy for the rest of us, won't you?

Liam will never grow up. His ranting on Twitter is pretty embarrassing for a 50 year old. He’s still “mad fer it” after 30 years. No wonder why Noel wants nothing to do with him.

There's a funny (one of many many many) moment in Al Jourgensen's (Ministry, Revolting Cocks, Lard etc)book. He mentions Evan Dando hanging around Courtney Love and Al just bullying him and throwing him out of the room to do smack with Courtney, and of course, DO Courtney!

Pointless, isn't it.