OEM vs. AFTERMARKET Points - Is There A Difference? 

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so you have to put the Engine on TDC and then barely just close the points. I know older Techumseh's timed that way

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Dear Tartyl, from a guy that has rebuilt many car and racing magnetos. The points are probably where the difference is and the difference in cost. Chinese points will probably have Tungsten points, the US made points will be Platinum Iridium. So what is the difference? Platinum points will not pit and pile with reversing current and tungsten points will still work but will erode much more quickly. Platinum also has a much higher oxidization resistance. We had to spend 1000's each year getting platinum Iridium points discs made and I developed a process to silver solder the new discs on. Magneto points must still be available because small aircraft engines still use points magnetos. Tungsten is a grey color and Platinum is more of a yellow color. When I was doing them the discs were about $30 each so $60 per set.

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70 dollars is stupidly expensive. I'll take the after market.

Thanks Taryl for letting us know about the transducer, in the other video related to this unit I posted about that item flashing about what it was and you explained it:) You taught this old dog a new trick, thank you!

$75.00?!!! for a set of points? Where do we live? U.S.A. or F.U.S.A.?

I own an auto shop. If it's electric or goes in or on the engine OEM only. Just did a Subaru motor today customer had done a diy timing belt and water pump. He said the cheap dayco tensioner failed. I replaced the engine and used a aisin brand kit. All OEM parts. There are some parts that they sell aftermarket that just don't work.

Cummins just had pay our spectacular government almost 2 billion dollars for a epa fine. Poor Taryl got stuck for reimbursing Cummins for the recent huge loss

Hopefully, since they are manufactured here in the States, they are quality points that will not only fit correctly, but function well for a long time.

Once, when working with a tiny spring that I thought I'd lose, I tied a white string to it and cut the string off after assembly.

I have seen a lot of companies that get Chinese parts. When they get to the United States, they throw another label on it and say made in u. SA but if you pull that whole label off I be. She find out was made in china

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How would .016 be 16 degrees and .021 be 21 degrees? A smaller point gap will advance the timing.

You would not be able to get the timing light to work unless it was running. Because you would have to connect it to the coil wire.

I bought a set of points for my '67 Larson Eagle snow machine with a 9 horse JLO engine in it. They were made in China. I put them in and gapped them and the thing would not start. I tested them with a continuity tester and they failed. Completely useless. I cleaned up the old ones put 'em back in. Never bought snowmobile parts from them again.

Ha! transdensor prices start over $200!!!! That makes those $70 points sound cheap!! That $70 buys a lot of Chinese points that last at least 3 years!! Save your money and just swap or replace that spring like Taryl says!!!

Reached right over and grabbed the right allen wrench, pretty slick!

box is USA, points are CHINA

All got say your scaring about my 318. But your vids have learned me greatly on other mowers to. An I do my own work. Thank's to your vids. 👍

One thing I’ve done to prevent threads from backing out is to use a chisel and tap the threads to make them hard to turn. Be sure not to ruin them completely.

John Deere did that so it would be hard for folks to work on the machine

Where’s the Human Shop Rag to holler “fire it up, fire it up, fire it up”when you need him too? Tell him that we said hello .

I keep thinking this John Deere is the SpaceShuttle.

I just put points in my 67 Simplicity Landlord as you posted this video. I was able to get the original Briggs &Stratton points and condensor on line. Runs like a top now. Ready with the tiller mounted for spring garden tilling. Ive always set my points just by the sound and responsiveness of the engine. It has always worked for me whether its right or wrong IDK.

i have found that after so many years they can supply you none oem parts but in an original oem box at a crazy price im sure you could of got about 8 sets of cheap points for less than one cummins set and they would last longer than the dear oem ones

Sometimes there’s a difference, other times it’s the same thing that’s in the Krohler package. It’s like buying a lottery ticket to buy points.

Taryl, I’m sure you know this, but if you didn’t know- Onan used to be its own company. They used to make all their own engines and generators. They were acquired by Cummins and a that’s why a lot of the Onan parts are hard to find and expensive. Seems Cummins doesn’t care much about Onan, even though they make a really stout engine and generator. They were the best for decades

Another thing you can do with that shorter spring is just put one or two little washers above it.. which will make it compress a bit more and make it stronger; it should still have plenty range of motion to still work correctly.

Nothing beats the sound of an Onan ! Very nice

Seems like those OEM points are struggling too. Brand new and already corroded. Doesnt bode well for a machine thats out in the elements. Id be curious to see how that well mower would run with the aftermarket points, but with the OEM spring.

Sounds like I remember...I wonder if you could put a tiny washer under that spring?

An old guy told me to final clean points with a dollar bill. Paper can leave fibers. Been using a bill on points for about 50 years.

i always preferred the John Deere 322 if i was to get a gasser in this frame size, the onan always seemed like it needed all the maintenance when the yanmar gas and diesel would be the ones you would never see in the shop because they always worked. the 332 being the diesel variant would often times need work to the glowplug control timer but otherwise are mowers running in which i never see because i know they are out there but rarely break down.

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You can also use a dwell meter.

I have a cousin that was teaching English in China. He said they would watch the the staff leave the Nike factory at 5pm then the night shift would come in and make knock off sneaker all night he told us this went on at all the big plants so both those points most likely came from same plant.

Taryl about. 5 years ago my father in law bought a new lawn mower he gave me his 06 craftsman rider but it smoked really bad when it ran i stumbled onto your channel while searching the problem. I have never tore a motor apart before. After i watched one of your head gaskets videos i not only fixed it but i bought a torque wrench and torqued the head bolts and adjusted the valves thanks to your videos thank you for all your videos and entertainment

Corroded new out of the box for $70 USD. Send that overpriced POS right back to Cummins, Taryl.

just replaced the points in a JD riding mower and this gave me a few great ideas on how to make sure it is running right.

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You mentioned using a light for timing, we use to use a doorbell and a battery so the bell would alert the person setting the points of the timing.

I generally go to Napa for points if I can’t get OEM Don’t buy the junk 😮

what was the cost of the after-market.

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grouse video content there Taryl Dactal mate and yep a good difference in these points and condenser and yep the differences are well the differ between the real deal and of course cheap as Chinese garbage for sure in this case even on those dud spark plugs we have over here by comparisons which are Torch and Denso type which are poor qaulity plus it does not fire up a engine for sure from what i have noticed and even on our 2 stroke Victa P/T (Power Torque) and other forms of outdoor power equipment we have over here too and yep my mate who also lives in NSW (New South Wales) will agree with me too as we both hate em for sure but yeah your video is a good top notch one on those famous farmers tools known as John Deere 🦌and yep no kidding either and i,d happily use their stuff any time for sure if i was offered a test run for sure and cheers from Australia 🐨🐑🦘🌴🌳🌏🇦🇺 or the land down under to your area and i hope your keeping toasty during your annual Winter/Flu Season too.

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What about the thickness and quality of the plating on the contacts? Should be cadmium plated. That will affect how long they'll last. Also the quality of the material that rubs on the cam? You have no real way to measure the difference of those important aspects in your fine shop. Springs because they're made of metal become more brittle over time. It's why we find broken springs. They're only going to work for so many cycles before they become work hardened enough to finally snap. Armed with this knowledge is it really a good idea to used the spring in your old points? I know, I know, one could argue about the quality of springs coming from Chynah, and you would have a good point, so it's a toss up.. Just food for thought.

5:41 What ever. Everybody knows you use the correct sealant on the bore prior to installing a welch plug.

Almost always better to choose USA made. Even better to choose Japanese made. Like honda small engines were made to last longer then you're great great great grandchildren.

On my old 1953 ford jubilee i only use blue point points and condenser

It would be interesting to know exactly what " made in America" means. In this instance I suspect buying in the bits from China then assembling them into the finished article in the US is all thats required then stamp it up" made in the US" and charge a premium price.

For $74, I can say that i'd buy the aftermarket every time for points LOL

I would be hard pressed to pay $75 for a set of points

Actually the sticker was made in the US and some mexican kid put it on the chinese made part box.

i did a cheap electronic conversion on mine, no points no farting around, taryl just convert to electronic with the cheap ebay electronic conversion kits

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I've had the same problem with points in my car. You think they're clean but they're not🤔🤨

Always used "hot pink" fingernail polish on Welch plugs.

I'm going to pretend I didn't see you put a pipe wrench on the machined surface of the crankshaft in order to turn it.

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If they both work and the aftermarket is cheaper go aftermarket 💪🏻

Taryl busts out a Russian cosmonaut trick in the 318 spaceship and uses a pipe wrench…. Circa Armageddon

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I love those old onans. Got one with scratched heads. Wanna bore/hone. You have an opinion on the Lisle 15000 rigid hone vs Sunnen? I'm guessin you have one.

What was wrong with the old points? And what does that condenser with the light do? I have an onan on a Ingersoll lawnmower.

I know the Onan twins had a few issues, but I remember it being one of the smoothest engines I ever serviced.

I use a dollar bill to clean points, they are printed on non fraying paper.

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Isn't it called (dwell) setting on the points, the gap? Oh yeah song of the day? It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that Spring, do wa, do wa, do wa... Yeah! Taryl!

10:00 hey guy maybe clean up/sand that connector first

Not familiar with a transdenser. Is it a condenser that has changed gender?

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The Lift ramps on them Chinese points wear out quick

Taryl it's not that at all . The diode most likely burned out in your timing light.,or it is one these other two parts instead. The switch.,or it has dirty contacts inside of it. The last thing is loose wiring.,an A resistor that may have went bad also. I'd test it with ohms multi meter on conuity mode.,or known as the 🎧 headphones mode. Another mode is 200k

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I wonder if you could convert them on that to electronic so you won’t have the points grace and peace

I did switch the springs out. You gotta know what your doing with that stuff. I set mine at .020". Good enough.😎

Is that plug made by a grape juice company?

Something I do just to insure a good connection is clean the connector end on the wire

Great video

I'd be curious about better aftermarket like Stens compared to OEM rather than no name Amazon aftermarket compared to OEM.

Did I miss how much the aftermarket points cost?

Origin, and made in, are entirely different meanings. Manufacturers are using Chinese components in their products. Made in America means the entire part, and its components were made in America. At least, that's how I see it. I retired from a well-known American motorcycle company. There were many parts from all over the world that comprised the final product. The power train, tank, fenders, and frame are made here in America. Can you guess what company I'm referring to? 😅

Great video, I haven't worked on points in 40 years.

So I tells my wife, that grease under my fingernails is from making money.

Good video!! Cleared up my uncertaintly about points gap and timing on small engines. Thanks Taryl!!

I always use OEM if I can find and afford them. Onan parts are not cheap but they are made specifically for there engines. I have had problems with aftermarket points sets falling apart and shorting out. I've had a few that the contacts actually welded together which overheated the spring and took the temper out of it. Most aftermarket points have some sort of softer steel contacts instead of Carbon steel contacts.