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OFC vs CCA Wire Demonstration Test | Kicker @ CES 2014 

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@paulpopp1999
@paulpopp1999 5 лет назад
I think you mean true ofc wire, doesn't have to be kicker wire.
@peteleclair7044
@peteleclair7044 3 года назад
Nah he means kicker, he wants you to buy there stuff. If it where a “wire comparison booth” not a (kicker booth) he woulda said buy some kind of official ofc wire true 4 gage or greater for a 20ft run with this wattage system don’t go to Walmart.
@jamesbondo13
@jamesbondo13 Год назад
I was boutta comment on the sales tactic.
@Iron_Thunderstorm
@Iron_Thunderstorm 6 лет назад
That's a really good demonstration. Shows the real-world effects of different options. Not just broscience wisetales
@isettech
@isettech 6 лет назад
Yes copper vs aluminum. Well known difference.
@colbyjohnson6616
@colbyjohnson6616 Год назад
I used knukonceptz KCA (oversized CCA) 1/0 for my feed from my xs power battery under the hood to my second XS power battery in the back and big 3 upgrade. I've got 2 stinger voltage meters, one in the front and one at the amp that I set using my klien DMM. I'm getting the exact same voltage at the front and back, give or take a point or two. The CCA seems to work just fine for my 2k RMS amp pushing the soundqubed HDC 1,500 rms sub.
@mikew6135
@mikew6135 Год назад
It does. This test is BS. These are advertising/marketing campaigns guys. Please wake up. 99.9% of the time they are rigged. Use a 0g CCA and let's see how it does. Oh it's not the same guage as OFC? No it's bigger because the flow rate is less but it's still CHEAPER and just as good in the proper guage for the power level. Let's get rid of elitist fluff and stick to the facts please.
@smnkm4ehfer
@smnkm4ehfer Год назад
They used "cheeseball" CCA wire, but if they used a quality CCA wire there really isn't much difference other than potential thermal runaway, and just use properly sized wire and youre fine.
@jdsim9173
@jdsim9173 2 года назад
Actually you paid for 400 watts, you're getting 397-398 with cca wire, be nice to know if you used the same gauge for both, since you neglected to mention that.
@otisspunkmeyer2010
@otisspunkmeyer2010 10 лет назад
always over gauge your wire to stop voltage drop
@ryanjcole
@ryanjcole 5 лет назад
And you don't use Copper-clad Aluminum EVER.
@rexcruciatus2036
@rexcruciatus2036 3 года назад
@@ryanjcole That's exactly right. And that goes for homes too. They used to use CCA wire in the late 1960's 1970's and it caught a few houses on fire.
@canadianbrotv1303
@canadianbrotv1303 2 месяца назад
​@rexcruciatus2036 So ofc wire wont catch fire ?
@mrwnking
@mrwnking Год назад
IDK, their is alot of people that say using CCA, there is no loss of voltage. But it does make sense to have pure copper instead of 75/25 CCA. Im going all OFC, instead of CCA.
@MurderousMindstate
@MurderousMindstate 3 года назад
measure the inductance created by those coiled up power cables and take that into account as well. It's no secret that OFC is better quality. The question is it worth twice as much money. I think if it was, there would be no need for these types of demonstrations. I believe this is a fudged up example.
@bassbuildscarlmeadors6650
@bassbuildscarlmeadors6650 Год назад
People buy aluminum coated wire being cheap. Oxigen free copper wire doesn't corrode like aluminum wire does you make more power with copper wire anyone watching should realize the gains from a one time purchase
@smnkm4ehfer
@smnkm4ehfer 11 месяцев назад
​@bassbuildscarlmeadors6650 copper is one of the highest nonferrous corrosion factor metals out there. Aluminum corroded far less than copper... If you're gonna comment at least know what you're talking about
@JohnHilman1968
@JohnHilman1968 Год назад
I actually wired my truck up with 4 gauge CCA to the distribution block. Measured voltage at the battery was 13.36v and measured voltage at the amp was.... 13.36v powered on. I have about 12 feet of the 4 guage and then the distribution block, and then about a foot of 8 guage to the amp, with an inline fuse in between. No voltage drop at all from the battery to the amp.
@Earth-Apple
@Earth-Apple 11 месяцев назад
You need to load the amp to get the correct results, an amp doing nothing won't drop the voltage
@mikekendall841
@mikekendall841 2 года назад
Test is not telling you what guage wire there using. You can use CCA wire just have to up the guage a bit. If it needs 4 guage use 0 it will surpass the differerence.
@ledmk2
@ledmk2 10 лет назад
Nice test
@Dortiz116
@Dortiz116 10 лет назад
Sky High Car Audio OFC is so cheap and amazing quality. No need to buy Kicker.
@ScottyBGaming239
@ScottyBGaming239 4 года назад
Jesus , i'm glad I found this video and your comment. Saved me $40 for OFC cables.
@seanmichael2777
@seanmichael2777 4 года назад
Same
@codywalton5020
@codywalton5020 4 года назад
Skyhigh wire is a joke and over priced ,welding cable ftw
@TrealFOET
@TrealFOET Год назад
I have knukonceptz, skyhigh and gp ofc wire i love all of them tbh oh and skar but that shit is trash 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣
@MarreroBuilt
@MarreroBuilt 7 лет назад
Yes its worth it if you build the system for competition.. I got 0ga cca for $30 whole amp kit with RCA wire. My wifes step dad go a kicker amp kit for $85 on discount at best buy and it didn't come with RCA'S. I will keep my lil bit of watts lost for less then a fraction of the price unless its for competition.
@firebirdude2
@firebirdude2 6 лет назад
Bullshit. Kicker sells only one kit without RCAs at Best Buy and it's nowhere near $85 full MSRP. Second, I also call bullshit on your $30 0AWG CCA kit. No full 0AWG kit is $30 unless it's no-name under-gauged bullshit. Provide links or STFU!
@dylansmed4305
@dylansmed4305 4 года назад
@@firebirdude2 hey you dumb fvck punk ass bitch. I just bought a 27$ 0ga amp kit from Amazon and it's got everything I needed. So next time you want to look cool or knowledgeable, figure your shit out before you end up just looking like a dumbass. And yes it's been a year since you commented that. Oh well, a year later and you still sound like a douchebag.
@Optic_texas
@Optic_texas 4 года назад
@@dylansmed4305 if it's cca it's trash lol
@LastOfADyingBreed618
@LastOfADyingBreed618 13 часов назад
Obviously OFC is the more superior cable here but it’s only necessary if your system is pushing over 2000 watts rms also if your doing short runs of CCA from say a sound battery in the trunk to your amp and you do dual runs of 1/0 gauge wire you should be fine I use a combination of both OFC and CCA using the OFC to run from the battery in the hood to the battery in the trunk
@LegendaryGarageYT
@LegendaryGarageYT 10 лет назад
or you just get sky high 0 gauge and it beats everything
@mikesthundergarage3793
@mikesthundergarage3793 5 лет назад
Gp merica no b.s. for every 9inches has almost a full ounce better copper content than sky high, and most notably doesn't come pre corroded from factory. Cheaper too lol. 99.99 percent pure copper certified and made in USA for the win
@uptobatentertainment
@uptobatentertainment 5 лет назад
Mike NBass or you could purchase the most copper per foot for the least amount of money which is 2/0 welding cable which has strict standards it has to pass to be certified for use unlike any car audio wire...
@oscarrios218
@oscarrios218 10 лет назад
The only OK product from kicker I MIGHT buy but I'm thinking of sky high or audiotecnix
@bryansphiwe7166
@bryansphiwe7166 2 года назад
I also took out my 0 gauge CCA & installed 0 gauge OFC wire on my Powerbass PB18K💪
@2025944
@2025944 2 года назад
it make a huge difference? ive got pretty strong electrical but with my jp63 at 2 ohms it still absolutely destroys my xs4900 and 280 alt which i find so weird and can only blame on amazon cca 0 guage wiring XD
@bryansphiwe7166
@bryansphiwe7166 2 года назад
@@2025944 I wouldn't say a it makes a huge difference.On the meter I did 144.8 with the ofc upgrade I still did the same number.
@southern_merican
@southern_merican 2 года назад
Not true results. I just tested my battery up front and got 12.85v. Then i went back to my amp and checked and got 12.85v. And i have cca wire Soooooooo
@redryder8834
@redryder8834 2 месяца назад
Correct. It’s basic electrical principles.
@ve6wo
@ve6wo 8 лет назад
There's nothing wrong with CCA wire. Aluminum does have higher resistance than copper, a known fact.. So if you choose to use CCA wire you need to do some math and figure out the proper size wire to use... It will be larger diameter than OFC to achieve the same current carrying capacity. Nice sales job, but it's just that... Trying to make you think you NEED to buy expensive kicker OFC wire... Do a proper job of engineering your system, and CCA will do every bit as good a job as OFC.
@thomasnielsen8831
@thomasnielsen8831 8 лет назад
What Gregg is saying is correct, you are either not reading what he is saying or dont know better. The resistance in aluminium is about 40% higher than in copper, so yes using the same gauge and length of cable (like this test setup) OFC is the clear winner. But often u will be able to run 2 x 2/0 awg wire CCA in pair cheaper than 1 x 2/0 awg wire OFC, while having less resistance and lower voltage drop. i doubt corrosion will become an issue before unless your planing on keeping the same cables in place for 10+ years. This is also why u see some newer industrial facilities using 150mm2+ aluminium as mains in, over 63mm2 copper cables, duo to cost.
@ve6wo
@ve6wo 8 лет назад
Thomas Nielsen True
@mattemerine199
@mattemerine199 7 лет назад
Richard Driskill your an idiot lmao
@ironsmith9769
@ironsmith9769 7 лет назад
Here is a recent article on CCA for power transmission that gives a short result of 50 years of testing in 100,000 homes: www.jadelearning.com/newsletter/2017/05/Copper_Clad_Aluminum_Conductors.php
@CB34_4Life
@CB34_4Life 6 лет назад
mattemerine199 you're the IDIOT! YOU ARE SPEAKING AS IF EVERYONE OUT THERE IS AN AUDIOPHILE OR RUNNING A 20,000 WATT SPL COMPETITION SETUP. THE FACT IS THAT YES WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT OFC IS WITHOUT A DOUBT IS SUPERIOR TO ANY OTHER CONDUCTOR. HOWEVER, ALUMINUM, BRASS, GOLD, PLATINUM ARE ALSO CONSIDERED GOOD CONDUCTORS. CCA IS ADEQUATE FOR MANY CAR AUDIO APPLICATIONS AS LONG AS YOU FROM A REPUTABLE MANUFACTURER WHO USES PROPER AMOUNTS OF COPPER CLADDING AND GENERALLY HAS MANUFACTURING PROCESSES TO PRODUCE A WIRE THAT INCLUDES ACTUALLY MEETS TRUE AWG STANDARDS. ALSO VARIANCES IN STRAND COUNT CAN AFFECT BOTH OFC AND CCA. MANY MANUFACTURERS MAKE OFC CLAIMING A CERTAIN GAUGE BUT IS ACTUALLY UNDERSIZED. THIS OFC IS NO BETTER THAN A CCA IN THAT INSTANCE. A GOOD CCA IS CAPABLE OF BEING EQUIVALENT OR VERY CLOSE TO A PARTICULAR OFC IF IT HAS QUALITY COPPER CLADDING AND AN INCREASE IN STRAND COUNT JUST ENOUGH TO MAKE UP FOR THE RESISTIVITY OF THE ALUMINUM. TYPICALLY FOR 1/0 YOUR TALKING ABOUT SOMEWHERE AROUND 1000 STRANDS OR AN ADDITIONAL 20%. ONLY INCREASES WIRE DIAMETER BY 5-10%. THIS WITH GOOD COPPER CLADDING WILL MAKE A CCA CAPABLE OF HANDLING ABOUT 85%-90% OF OFC BASED ON CONTINUOUS FLOW. THE CCA ACTUALLY MAY HANDLE INTERMITTENT BURSTS OR SURGES BETTER. KNUKONCEPTZ MAKES 1 GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS TYPE OF CCA.
@hueovs
@hueovs 10 лет назад
or you could buy much cheaper ofc like Audiotechnix and save lots of money...
@SXSic
@SXSic 10 лет назад
audiotechnix whoop whoop runnin that strato 10
@firebirdude2
@firebirdude2 10 лет назад
Keep in mind that ensuring your wire is OFC is only half the battle. Manufacturers FREQUENTLY short change the actual amount if wire and just use thicker insulation. So "4 gauge" is actually closer to 8 gauge once you cut it open. And this is a rep for Kicker. It's their demo. Leave him alone.
@hueovs
@hueovs 10 лет назад
firebirdude2 There's a reason I said AudioTechnix. It's the same quality if not better but for much cheaper. With kicker you are just paying for the name, although I'm not sure why someone would pride them self with owning a kicker product.
@ELDIABLOGSX
@ELDIABLOGSX 10 лет назад
firebirdude2 if you buy as "ga" then they consider the whole wire "insulation plus copper as whatever "ga" if you buy "awg" they only measure the actual copper gauge. I think or at least thats how i see it.
@Jeffdachefz
@Jeffdachefz 9 лет назад
firebirdude2 Its thicker than most CCA wire out there. Basically the same size as kicker. Underground brands like knukonceptz, sky high and the old audiotechnix have their wires a lot cheaper and have amazing quality to them and can easily go evenly toe to toe with rockford and kicker, actually they have more strand count then rockford or kicker, same size though, so flexibility is one advantage.
@dragon123443
@dragon123443 10 лет назад
Very nice demonstration!!
@Flowshow88
@Flowshow88 3 года назад
How do you figure?? The wires are different material. Not only that but you still get 400 watts from a 400 watt amplifier. What did he demonstrate?
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 2 года назад
@@Flowshow88 Not a damn thing, and he coiled up the CCA wire.
@Ariana_VT
@Ariana_VT 4 года назад
what gauges and how many strands did the kicker wire have and the competitor wire have? is this apples to oranges? more strands means less resistance
@yonniewang6901
@yonniewang6901 4 года назад
haha. consumers are smart.
@IWalkWithDubInMyStep
@IWalkWithDubInMyStep Год назад
LOOK CLOSELY - I may be wrong, but.... Dual (OFC - BLUE) and Single (CCA - RED) on the positive battery terminal. Single OFC and Single CCA running to the distribution block. Single OFC running from the distribution block to power the amplifier. Yet, they can magically get two different results from the same connection...
@spartancaptain5691
@spartancaptain5691 Год назад
No you are wrong, they are switching which power wire is actually connected to the battery via the switch.
@maunakea7992
@maunakea7992 4 года назад
What is up on the 3 feet of bare wire on the CK4 not comprehending somebody tell me whyg
@EliteGeeks
@EliteGeeks 4 года назад
makes me wonder if they had CCA or Aluminum wire, the copper coating on Aluminum helps
@Raymo2u
@Raymo2u 4 года назад
No, stop that myth. DC electrical is based on current, "skinning" means nothing with current. Aluminum is 60% more restrictive than Copper for current. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect
@rcmstereo
@rcmstereo 10 лет назад
what is a better conductor, gold or nickel that your amp has on its terminals, or any clean piece of copper? Answer, copper. So this ofc is bullshit...Buy 00 welding cable for less then 2$ a foot
@boominburban
@boominburban 9 лет назад
Yea, silver-copper-gold-aluminum, then nickel ... that is the order of best conductivity ...
@CB34_4Life
@CB34_4Life 6 лет назад
Has anyone noticed that there are 2 Kicker blue wires and one red wire connected to that batteries positive terminal???... Also, if this was a fair test you would run the wires separately from the battery straight to the amp. No dost. Block. And one wire at a time to battery. There not isolated otherwise. Even with the switch supposedly controlling what we can't see. What I do see is that switch can't be isolating the wires if all wires are tied to the battery then meeting at a distribution block as 2 in 1 out to amp. And why the 2 Kicker blue and 1 red at battery... Something doesn't add up.
@firebirdude2
@firebirdude2 6 лет назад
Something has to power those 7-segment displays numbnuts. I've seen this display in person. You can follow the wires behind it just fine. The test is legit. If you don't think you'll drop 1.5V through 17ft of underspec CCA, have fun putting out the flames.
@redryder8834
@redryder8834 2 месяца назад
I don’t think there should be that much voltage drop from the battery to the amp. That cable should be the same voltage throughout.
@tonydize3944
@tonydize3944 Год назад
I had cca ebay wire for 22 years now in the same car and guess what my system sounds good and having had a single problem over the years why pay high dollar for a name
@Reggieb198895
@Reggieb198895 10 лет назад
Welding wire is 100 percent ofc and much much cheaper
@Floridascooterboys
@Floridascooterboys 6 лет назад
Reggie Bowles more like much more expensive you dumb fuck
@williamcorley2477
@williamcorley2477 6 лет назад
SAVAGE you're also the dumb fuck for reviving a 4 year old comment
@jessenorman9565
@jessenorman9565 4 года назад
Welding cable isn’t actually oxygen free copper (ofc), however it is 100% pure copper which is far superior to cca. Just as good as ofc, you just gotta make sure you weather proof the terminals so it won’t corrode. Anyways, that’s what I use 👍
@XxXnonameAsDXxX
@XxXnonameAsDXxX 5 месяцев назад
Bad test: the size and type of CCA and OFC not specified. CCA can be used but you need to know what you're doing. 2.5 square mm wires for CCA are equivalent to 1.5 sq mm OFC. Your milage may vary but your volts should NOT.
@Snattle_Rake
@Snattle_Rake 4 года назад
Why would you be upset for getting 400 watts out of a 400 watt amp?
@surgeonso4345
@surgeonso4345 4 года назад
Cuz you are missing out on 100 watts of extra power with the lesser quality wire.
@TheGamerPalace
@TheGamerPalace 10 лет назад
You can tell the red wire is a smaller gauge and has a large jacket.
@yonniewang6901
@yonniewang6901 4 года назад
it is a short demo, not lab test for report.
@mcf3778
@mcf3778 10 лет назад
or you could use skyhigh and call it a day... happy ears happy wallet
@chacaron03
@chacaron03 Год назад
Wow... Really wish I had seen this video 3 months ago. The things you'll learn after disintegrating your first sub... 😂
@DMAN22yeah
@DMAN22yeah 5 лет назад
You can get a full copper OFC 4awg kit for $50 now, theres not really a point getting anything CCA anymore.
@jihartbladhest2749
@jihartbladhest2749 4 года назад
Only rockville product I buy is their ofc.
@neosmith3633
@neosmith3633 4 года назад
Now this is awesome!
@thomas4202day
@thomas4202day 10 лет назад
why not carry knu koncept
@louiemares1610
@louiemares1610 6 лет назад
Damn I bought the CCA wire it was for a work truck it's only for a skar RP 2000.1 I'm going to wait skar evl 12 also got the skar 150.4 going off of four sets of mids and highs it wasn't a lot of power I even got a 2 farad capacitor but I think I should have would hate and spend $100 for a decent gauge
@rmblwgn
@rmblwgn 5 лет назад
I hope you bought oversized cca like knuconceptz or sky high to compensate. Bro that amp is no joke it could start a fire be careful. You should be running ofc 0 gauge
@scottouimet2865
@scottouimet2865 4 месяца назад
But if ofc is 4-5x cost cca why not just double your runs and buy a few adapters. Still be always 50% cheaper
@rkzooplays
@rkzooplays Месяц назад
yeah i thought the same way when i first ran cca almost burned down my car with it
@arande3
@arande3 6 лет назад
For anyone who wonders, 400 watts is 1 dB less than 500 watts.
@scottsorensen239
@scottsorensen239 4 года назад
I don't see how the red wire is connected to the amp?
@jihartbladhest2749
@jihartbladhest2749 4 года назад
I just looked really hard. I saw it. You can only see it from one angle but I saw it. It goes behind the display and out the front
@chrischupp9760
@chrischupp9760 4 года назад
Wondered what CCA means. You don’t want wire that’s mainly insulation either.
@yonniewang6901
@yonniewang6901 4 года назад
COPPER CLAD ALUMINIUM.
@suazzz3070
@suazzz3070 10 лет назад
After the disb block the kicker wire is closer to the amp wire! Duh
@SantaClaw
@SantaClaw 10 лет назад
Personally I use 0 gauge copper coated aluminum wire in my small car as it's more than capable of powering my less than 3000w system, especially combined with a 10 farad cap. I see a 0.00v drop compared to the battery in the front with a reasonable load. Also having the wires hanging in a coil as shown on the video will induce a current\lead to increased resistance/high voltage drop. I see the kicker brand wire with extra insulation that could give more performance.
@djbreal87
@djbreal87 10 лет назад
a 0.00v drop, or no drop, is impossible. You will have voltage drop, always, between the fron battery and the amp. If you had 0 voltage drop than you somehow managed to find or make 100% efficient power wire with no internal resistance. You should really let people know about this, you could change the electronics industry. Can I have some of your magic wire? Im so sick of having a .5v drop across 12ft of cable because my 1/0 guage wire has an internal resistance of 0.15, darn, really wish I didnt have that pesky internal resistance that ALL WIRES HAVE. Can I have some of your magic wire?
@SantaClaw
@SantaClaw 10 лет назад
Idiot. Given the low ampere, thick cable, short distance, there IS a 0.00v drop. There IS a voltage drop, but you need more decimals to measure it.
@file1man
@file1man 6 лет назад
richard- where can i see more detail for your car audio build? my last build was 10 years ago, as a noob. Im installing amps in my 2 cars- subaru forrester inherited from dad, using an older JL Adio 300/4 amp, (75 rms continuous x4 at 4 ohms), 4 older of MB Quart 3.5 inch speakers, JL audio sub box (2 of 12 inch in their box) kenwood sub amp 650w x 1 rms , 4 ohm. all were taken out last year fromf my prior install done10 years ago. hooked them up using a pyramid dc power source, all the equipent work, except Il prob leave out the capacitor from the old build. 2nd car, 2014 mustang JL audio xd 700 amp( 75w x 4, 4 ohm, 60 rms continuous), 4 of jl audio c5 650 speakers all around, jl audio wedge 13 inch sub box, same kenwood 600w x 1 rms sub amp
@GottaLoveGoblins
@GottaLoveGoblins 10 лет назад
I really don't understand the point of bashing each others wiring brands/gauges.. Everybody has their own opinions on their wiring brands/gauges etc obviously.. Run what you want to run and let others run what they want to run, because that's going to be the end result anyways.. It's just a demonstrational video explaining a difference in wiring materials.. It's not about the brand and how much you pay for it, damn.. Just run what you want to run and shut the hell up..
@TreyCarpenterThe_t3xh
@TreyCarpenterThe_t3xh 6 лет назад
Demo: CCA wire = 0.047ohms. OFC wire = 0.0125 ohms... I call bullshit. There's more than wire composition difference here. Bump up the CCA a wire gauge.
@jihartbladhest2749
@jihartbladhest2749 4 года назад
Many cheapoff/brand cca wires have HUGE jackets....good catch
@Raymo2u
@Raymo2u 4 года назад
@@jihartbladhest2749 Look at how many blue OFC wires are connected (and then sheathed where its noticeable) vs the single CCA wire.
@jihartbladhest2749
@jihartbladhest2749 4 года назад
@@Raymo2u yes it appears they have two blue jacketed ofcs and one CCA is possin6le.somewhere in that jumble of ofc two cables becomes one. So its as.if run ning a 2g ofc vs a under gauged CCA 4g
@CursedCow678
@CursedCow678 10 лет назад
not bad. though it would have been better to see him put the wire connectors on there him self and not use the distributor block. (You know for the non believers out there who believe every one is trying to cheat them) but i see. was that scoche power wire?
@adamwilke7121
@adamwilke7121 3 года назад
Skyhigh or knu koncepts
@bikerallmylife
@bikerallmylife 10 лет назад
Show me the actual wire
@firebirdude2
@firebirdude2 6 лет назад
I've watch them take this display a part in person. It's a legit test and that's untampered with Metra wire.
@jcook8191
@jcook8191 5 лет назад
Welding cable all day
@azchrisw
@azchrisw 4 года назад
This!
@themodifiedlife2774
@themodifiedlife2774 10 лет назад
Just buy some sky high ofc!! Much better value then kicker wire
@hausboxes
@hausboxes 3 года назад
Step up the wire size that amp requires and you can use cca. If you like to change your system up its alot cheaper.
@josequilez5449
@josequilez5449 2 года назад
You end up with less power and chance of burn up. I've lost amps subs capacitors and all kinds of other more expensive peices because of crap cca. At the end of the day it is only good for the first week or so. Once you heat cycle it. Cca is crap
@hausboxes
@hausboxes 2 года назад
@@josequilez5449 that's not true. Cca is just fine if you crimp and heat shrink it properly it'll last years. I currently have 2 runs of 1/0 sky high cca going on 2 years now
@Artistikk
@Artistikk Год назад
@@hausboxes I’ve been running 4ga CCA wire on a 1200W Rockford Fosgate for 7 years. 😂 I gotta replace it now tho. Got a nasty voltage drop but I’d say 7 years was worth it considering how little I paid for it.
@3yearsago287
@3yearsago287 Год назад
I switched to ofc and it makes a big difference. My bass hits for 40 sec on a cca then shuts off due to voltage drop. When change to ofc, my bass hits loud and doesn't shut off.
@tonyguerra7799
@tonyguerra7799 5 лет назад
I wanna know how the fuck they wired up that meter to read true rms 🤔
@jamesbondo13
@jamesbondo13 Год назад
Well isn't that just a real kicker!
@Flowshow88
@Flowshow88 3 года назад
If you use cheaper wire you only get 400 watts from our 400 watt amplifier...lmao
@isettech
@isettech 6 лет назад
Wow, a comparison between copper and aluminum wire.. Thought this from the title was a direct comparison of OFC wire and copper wire of the same AWG. This test does nothing to show the difference OFC makes over Copper wire.
@fronx7975
@fronx7975 7 лет назад
Why then does the amp kit have CCA ground wire? lol But most amp kits use CCA for the ground and not OFC...why?
@theunboxingguys1372
@theunboxingguys1372 7 лет назад
Cheaper
@fronx7975
@fronx7975 7 лет назад
because the ground wire doesn't have to run as far?
@ralphlongo1975
@ralphlongo1975 7 лет назад
CCA is cheaper to produce and sell, people see cheaper cable and think it's all the same. OFC is absolutely better than CCA, in every way. This test is BS though, some call their cable 8ga but it's really more like 10 or 12, this is undoubtedly one of those manufacturers cables.
@CB34_4Life
@CB34_4Life 7 лет назад
cheap amp kits. length of wire doesnt matter. Should always use same brand and type of power and ground for optimal results. you could see a slight voltage drop but they know that their kits are not being bought by audiophiles.
@johnnyappleseed7204
@johnnyappleseed7204 6 лет назад
Lengths do matter.
@87jeep-yj67
@87jeep-yj67 7 месяцев назад
OMG….What they proved here is Building Code 101….When sizing a circuit you need to go down in gauge when using Aluminum wire because of the lack of conductivity. So if your calculations show you need 4 AWG, yea use that for copper else use 2 AWG CCA, you won’t see that drop. With that said I do prefer copper wire but not for this snake oil presentation.
@jihartbladhest2749
@jihartbladhest2749 4 года назад
This seems dishonest to me. Let's see the CCA jacket. I've seen some cheapo jackets that were over half the thickness of the wire. U should compare sky high CCA to sky high ofc or kicker CCA to kicker ofc if kicker CCA exists.
@Raymo2u
@Raymo2u 4 года назад
Look at how many blue OFC wires are connected vs the single CCA wire...
@captainusa5
@captainusa5 10 лет назад
Look at how much of the "cheesy" wire is being used after having gone through 12 feet of the kicker wire then the distribution block.... There is only 4 inches of kicker wire coming from the distribution block... And if you look closely the red wire isn't even hooked up to the amp this is suck bull
@caraudiotec
@caraudiotec 10 лет назад
Robert, you need to look closer, both wires are equal in length and are connected in the same fashion, they are being switched though a high current relay behind the display. You can see the red power wire connected to the battery terminals. Please reserve comments for something you know as FACT.
@firebirdude2
@firebirdude2 10 лет назад
You clearly have no clue how any of this works...
@srt4fan4u2
@srt4fan4u2 10 лет назад
you really are dumb arent you
@NickBruce-d3e
@NickBruce-d3e 27 дней назад
Hessel Hills
@joshwallace6049
@joshwallace6049 2 года назад
Double the ccA runs you won’t dip
@InesHagene-v3b
@InesHagene-v3b Месяц назад
Kautzer Cliff
@leonsines247
@leonsines247 Год назад
OMG..... I GOTTA HURRY AND BUY KICKER WIRE...RUN.. RUN.... MY SYSTEM WONT FUNCTION WITHOUT IT.. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅
@AlyRegan-n9n
@AlyRegan-n9n 19 дней назад
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@BloomerAbigail-e3z
@BloomerAbigail-e3z Месяц назад
Carroll Oval
@VogtAbe-t9r
@VogtAbe-t9r Месяц назад
McLaughlin Trafficway
@RemonaBlanda-f9z
@RemonaBlanda-f9z Месяц назад
Waters Plaza
@TylerLorraine-b7s
@TylerLorraine-b7s 26 дней назад
Keon Common
@BowmanAmanda-t6n
@BowmanAmanda-t6n Месяц назад
Glen Unions
@stoffer856
@stoffer856 10 лет назад
BAD comparison, but true. You can't compare aluminum with copper. The impedance on cobber is 0.00175Ω*mm^2/m and aluminum is 0.03Ω*mm^2/m. The main reason for voltage drop is the ground. The voltage runs from the negative terminal on the battery to the positive terminal. If the elctrical system is badly grounded, voltage is dropping. God tip: BIG 3 in the front and ground the amp/s on two places. Left and right side in the vehicle.
@file1man
@file1man 6 лет назад
re your commnt from 4 years ago, ofc vs cca wire- where did you get the idea of ground yr amp to 2 places, right & let side of vehicle? makes sense, but never saw this. can you suggest web sites where we can learn more re: a good install . also, given my smaller watts installs, is ofc wire vs cca wire worth the price diff. probably, a yes, always, given my good not great equipment. was was initially to use 12 gauge knukonnect wire, but may change to16 ga knukonnect wire, since I have both wire sizes. only because 16 awg dweeules seem to fit better in my jl audio amp. Im installing amps in my 2 cars- subaru forrester inherited from dad, a JL Adio 300/4 amp, (75 rms continuous x4 at 4 ohms), 4 older of MB Quart 3.5 inch speakers, JL audio sub box (2 of 12 inch in their box) kenwood sub amp 650w x 1 , 4 ohm. 2nd car, 2014 mustang JL audio xd 700 amp( 75w x 4, 4 ohm, 60 rms continuous), 4 of jl audio c5 650 speakers all around, jl audio wedge 13 inch sub box, same kenwood 600w sub amp
@JoanCornell-k3f
@JoanCornell-k3f Месяц назад
Rowe Pine
@attpureownpk
@attpureownpk 10 лет назад
you shouldn't use wire under 4 gauge for power wire over 300 watts anyway... that is obviously 8 gauge wire.
@Jeffdachefz
@Jeffdachefz 9 лет назад
this is stupid, we all know they used some garbage cca wire thats more like 10 gauge wire on the inside while the kicker is 8 gauge ofc. Put a legit oversized CCA wire vs that ofc and you'll see little to no difference. Only time you'll see a difference is when you draw more current then the wire is designed to handle only then is when CCA starts heating up while OFC will have more stable temperatures.
@dmcd2460
@dmcd2460 9 лет назад
stick to cooking chef cause you obviously have no idea about anything else did anyone learn the conductivity of their elements in high school ? obviously not here's a chart to refresh your memory thou chemistry.about.com/od/moleculescompounds/a/Table-Of-Electrical-Resistivity-And-Conductivity.htm so your above statement is total bull copper is the second best conductor on earth second only to silver and kicker wire is tinned with silver which also increases it conductivity and reduces it's resistance. My teaching lesson is over but if you have anymore questions about anything electric let me know. I have been installing car stereos professionally since 1994 and was MECP certified the same year.
@Jeffdachefz
@Jeffdachefz 9 лет назад
D Mcd conductivity can be overcome with surface area aka strand count, Why do the main power lines going to each house use CCA? its huge its cheap and it still works why? surface area. 2 runs of 1/0 CCA will be cheaper and more conductive then a single run of 1/0 OFC. Learn a little bit about wire first before you talk Jr.
@dmcd2460
@dmcd2460 9 лет назад
maybe you should research the difference between AC current and DC current idiot. DC current does not care about surface area. There is NO skin effect in DC current! I know my wire and about both types of current. Here is the wiki about skin effect en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect which is your surface area theory blown to hell. I will say 2 runs of the same size CCA might be able to carry more amperage than one of the same gauge Kicker silver tinned copper but you also have to terminate double the times compared to one wire and that would be where you run into the extra costs that would negate any savings found in the cheaper wire. Further more running 2 wires would also cost more labor/time and would not look as clean. There is a reason we use the products we use and pay the money for them that we pay. That reason is because they are the best most efficient solution to product we wish to purchase.
@jak3legacy
@jak3legacy 9 лет назад
D Mcd You pay the premium because they know people like you will pay more, when in a blind test you'd never be able to tell the difference. You pay for "facts" and "numbers," not audible quality. And hell, even if you're right, I don't want to believe a word you're saying because you're being a colossal jackass. I feel like I'm back on the playground.
@dmcd2460
@dmcd2460 9 лет назад
I made my point very clear to a block head it took being a elementary to do it but I think I got thru finally and after doing some more research on the matter even in AC current you have to go up a full AWG size to make up the difference in conductivity loss for the CCA and since odd gauge sizes are not readily available this would mean the difference in running 8 ga copper or 4 ga CCA so I don't think even then it would be feasible to do unless your doing a huge industrial building
@ChurchMandy-w9d
@ChurchMandy-w9d 26 дней назад
Velda Crossing
@gamersoul6996
@gamersoul6996 4 года назад
You need (Real kicker wire) no other wire compares lmao🤣🤣
@fdzhcms-e5m
@fdzhcms-e5m 19 дней назад
Willa Manors
@DosPaisasFishing
@DosPaisasFishing 10 лет назад
Now use sky high wire lol
@lillao1
@lillao1 8 лет назад
+BeardedDragonHelpr RIGHT? Skyhigh makes some bad ass oversized CCA...
@Floridascooterboys
@Floridascooterboys 6 лет назад
david le fuck sky high buy Rockville 100% copper and ofc way better n cheaper
@allanbutler1366
@allanbutler1366 6 лет назад
SAVAGE I couldn't agree with you more. I'm running the RWK01 kit and a RFC50F capacitor along with a 450 amp alternator built by Michael Singer and Rockville's RXD-M5 and their RXA-F2 amplifiers! Two pair of JL Audio C2-650's and 2 Alpine SWR-12D2 subs in a custom ported box. Not only is the sound crisp and Crystal Clear, the bass is unbelievable. I have compared my system to a few of my friends who are running Rockford Fosgate and kicker amplifiers who also spent thousands of dollars more on their systems and they don't even come close to the power and sound of my car. Rockville all the way!
@a-75n5lee4
@a-75n5lee4 6 лет назад
SAVAGE yeah did so their 1/0 is actually 2ga. Just go to show that cheaper usually translates into smaller diameter
@jihartbladhest2749
@jihartbladhest2749 4 года назад
@@allanbutler1366 lmfao how did this comment age?
@chrisjarrett2473
@chrisjarrett2473 10 лет назад
Sky High FTW!!!
@akuma4u
@akuma4u 10 лет назад
huh? you bought a 400 watt amp and you are getting 400 watts.. you are getting what you paid for nothing more nothing less. The bonus is if you use the more expensive wire you get a bonus of an extra 100 watts..
@kingofcoxave
@kingofcoxave 10 лет назад
very true
@firebirdude2
@firebirdude2 6 лет назад
This has to be the stupidest comment I've read this week.
@rmblwgn
@rmblwgn 5 лет назад
@@firebirdude2 dude is a dumbass. Just because kicker amps are usually underrated doesn't mean with CCA wire you are getting what you paid for. LOOK AT THE VOLTAGE! If you put this up to a true 800w rms amp(say a pioneer) and you used CCA you would probably only be getting 600w. Just because the amp says 400 and you got 400 doesn't mean you are getting what you paid for. The amp is underrated so 500 is getting what you paid for.
@mikesthundergarage3793
@mikesthundergarage3793 5 лет назад
High quality kicker wire LMFAO!!! Atleast 15 to 20 percent less copper content than my gp no b.s. merica 99.99 percent certified pure copper
@NellyAlva-q5g
@NellyAlva-q5g Месяц назад
Hertha Center
@ThodoreMarlon-u9b
@ThodoreMarlon-u9b Месяц назад
Schumm Burgs
@LoreneMoore-x2h
@LoreneMoore-x2h Месяц назад
Shannon Shoal
@expertautodetail1833
@expertautodetail1833 5 лет назад
for speaker wire thick cca should be ok
@bensonak47
@bensonak47 10 лет назад
skyhigh :))
@MarvinConnell
@MarvinConnell 10 лет назад
WORD... =]
@GusBenjamin-s4d
@GusBenjamin-s4d 20 дней назад
Ara Inlet
@josieemariee339
@josieemariee339 2 года назад
Hes soo right , but i dont wanna pay for it , but ima have to now cuz he sold me , smh
@TrealFOET
@TrealFOET Год назад
Lol its cheap wire out there you just have to look. Audio legion had OFC amp kits for like $30-$70 but they might be sold out now
@LordElfa
@LordElfa 3 месяца назад
I don't trust any test done by someone with a dog in the hunt.
@jaywalkin8205
@jaywalkin8205 4 года назад
Nobody should buy kicker, they are overpriced. By far, go sky high or someone else kicker is cheese ball power wired compared to sky high
@HarrisonNicol-l4p
@HarrisonNicol-l4p Месяц назад
Metz Flats
@LutkeVeldNL
@LutkeVeldNL 10 лет назад
Yeahh sure, worst case scenario this. Just use nice thick cables and the difference will be minimal. The price difference will be higher tho :)
@reddeerrebelrc6674
@reddeerrebelrc6674 5 месяцев назад
And if you only needed 200 watts...ur good with the cheap crap
@EdenMerlin-n9q
@EdenMerlin-n9q 17 дней назад
Maude Lights
@RafaGmod
@RafaGmod 10 лет назад
alluminum have a bigger resistence coeficient tha copper. If the kicker wire is copper, that's an unfair test....
@SantaClaw
@SantaClaw 10 лет назад
That is what the whole test is about... It shows that buying copper coated aluminum wire is cheaper but leads to an actual voltage drop / drop in efficiency compared to the more expensive oxygen free copper.
@ChildeAthena-r8r
@ChildeAthena-r8r 26 дней назад
Wiegand Loop
@selfishlyintrigued
@selfishlyintrigued 6 лет назад
This makes zero sense. A different conductor type won't carry as much amperage at the same gauge size. Wow, welcome to fucking electrical 101-101. What you should do; is show a comparable CCA wire, and OFC wire, and give the benefits such as: Smaller wire gauge at the same amperage. Easier to run... Because again smaller wire gauge. Cost savings. If you are buying a larger gauge wire, it costs more. However CCA is much cheaper than OFC, or just straight copper. So THE ONLY WAY IT MAKES SENSE to advertise the OFC wire is; at a smaller wire gauge you get the same power, easier to run, and the same or lower cost, or a comparable cost that the other benefits outweigh. Wire doesn't just "Magically" make more wattage; and saying shit like "Simply because it's OFC" should send fucking red flags.
@area51junkyard
@area51junkyard 7 лет назад
lol... i will not use real kicker wire
@berto371rr
@berto371rr 8 лет назад
where in the fuck us that red wire even running to. and no battery charger . uses his product first and then im not sure what is running on the next part cause that red wire is not connected to the amp. just lost all respect for kicker well the little respect i did have for them witch wasn't much to start with..
@margaritosilos6117
@margaritosilos6117 8 лет назад
Looks to me that the switch is hooked up at the little distribution piece then has kicker wire from that to the amp and both are hooked up to the battery they just go behind the panel and back through together
@firebirdude2
@firebirdude2 8 лет назад
Look @0:17. You can see both power wires connected to the battery. They run inside the display board and then ultimately to the distribution block. Pretty damn obvious to anybody with two eyeballs and the common sense of a NYC rat. Posts like this make me lose "the little respect I did have" for humanity.
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