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These bodies make every camper's heart beat faster: Individually designed and extravagantly furnished long-distance motorhomes are the latest craze on the caravan market - at least for those amateur campers who can afford the unusual models. The off-road companions and rolling luxury suites have no upper price limits. Who are the owners of the most expensive caravans in Germany, and what about the hoods of their rolling homes?
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@WELTDocumentary
@WELTDocumentary 4 года назад
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@shalerjackson5045
@shalerjackson5045 3 года назад
6 6m 6 t 5⁵⁵
@patking5816
@patking5816 3 года назад
The servants will follow behind in 25 of his Toyota Land cruisers.
@mperhaps
@mperhaps 3 года назад
Why would we? you lied about this video. The title is motorhomes for adventure. Off road caravans. This is about a fire truck conversion and nothing else. I'm sorry do you even watch these shitty videos before you post them. It would really help when you get around to naming it. Ass Face.
@toms6327
@toms6327 3 года назад
Zoom
@-TaylorMade-
@-TaylorMade- 2 года назад
13:54 frame is bent
@IIISentorIII
@IIISentorIII Год назад
As a Swiss citizen that speaks German, I have to say, this is one of the best English translation i've ever heard. 👍
@DanielMorales-dz4nv
@DanielMorales-dz4nv 9 месяцев назад
That german people are at another level. They build exelent machines.
@garybrown9719
@garybrown9719 2 года назад
Total accuracy Static equilibrium Some fancy words for a simple fram extension.
@dead1529
@dead1529 4 года назад
This is what happens when rich people find out about camping
@sabirsdevv6806
@sabirsdevv6806 4 года назад
Lool
@garychandler4296
@garychandler4296 3 года назад
Camping is where there is fire, canvas, quiet, stakes and ropes. This is motorhoming, as in NOT CAMPING NOW!
@rear9259
@rear9259 3 года назад
If your gonna camp, camp in style
@sjefhendrickx2257
@sjefhendrickx2257 3 года назад
Camping?
@victorquincanon4933
@victorquincanon4933 3 года назад
What happens when rich people find out about camping? U.N. Agenda 21.
@riaanvanrooyen6916
@riaanvanrooyen6916 4 года назад
To everyone at WELT. Thanks for all the awesome episodes. It is channels like thís that make me watch RU-vid👍🇿🇦
@joebroadbeef332
@joebroadbeef332 2 года назад
Ja, baie lekker Boet!!!!
@yidne8239
@yidne8239 4 года назад
Andre is the brain behind everything, smart guy
@963hz
@963hz 3 года назад
Uses a 30 year old truck as his working truck. That’s cool as hell!
@TheGrandmaster1
@TheGrandmaster1 2 года назад
I swear this is one of the greatest channels on RU-vid. I can't believe how amazing the content is. It's like having Discovery Channel, Built it Bigger, Megabuilders, and Building Giants all back at once.
@WELTDocumentary
@WELTDocumentary 2 года назад
Welcome aboard!
@TheGrandmaster1
@TheGrandmaster1 2 года назад
@@WELTDocumentary Thanks guys. I love this channel. I have it bookmarked on my browser homepage. It's like having a whole new Discovery or Engineering Channel. The production value is off the charts!
@YoungBizWhiz
@YoungBizWhiz 2 года назад
High level expertise - these guys are really impressive. German engineering 👍
@HungryWheelsIta
@HungryWheelsIta 2 года назад
Well done!!! driving without seat belts fastened and off road with the free seat shock absorber !!! really congratulations !!!
@johneygd
@johneygd Год назад
Das sehre shune und unglaublish,it’s just absolutely incredible.
@buster76246
@buster76246 4 года назад
The servants will follow behind in 25 of his Toyota Land cruisers.
@BlackSeaPirate
@BlackSeaPirate 4 года назад
buster76246 😂
@m3dia95
@m3dia95 4 года назад
Wives!
@buster76246
@buster76246 4 года назад
@@m3dia95 Yeah, they are his servants .
@fas8437
@fas8437 4 года назад
I smell jealousy
@buster76246
@buster76246 4 года назад
@@fas8437 Really ? you need to get that checked out.
@carlos1rsa
@carlos1rsa 3 года назад
German precision, both bottom and high end, pure perfection.
@johnphelan6623
@johnphelan6623 3 года назад
Amazing - both!!! Rarely have I enjoyed a RU-vid documentary as much 👍🏽
@franker1111
@franker1111 2 года назад
I love my off road rv like that , bought it out of Alaska
@jamesturbyfill6281
@jamesturbyfill6281 3 года назад
love the solid liver German shorthaired pointer he has.. GSPs are probably the best dogs for this lifestyle.. besides being great on the trail they are so loving and cuddly!!
@mikesstrippeddowncovers.2384
@mikesstrippeddowncovers.2384 4 года назад
Speaking as a truck driver, I thought that old Mercedes would be a dog to drive (having plenty of experience with that model) But after the upgrades, it looked prettty swish as it goes. I've got to say though, That M.A.N is a real beast. I'd love to take it on holiday, but i wouldn't want to go into any wilderness or dodgy countries for fear of bandits. My destiniations would be plenty tame!
@williesnyder2899
@williesnyder2899 2 дня назад
Bad welds on seams are indeed unseemly!! My hat is off to folks with precision skills and the resolve to perform up to snuff, no matter what task presents itself! A like the boxy, burley look of these vehicles. Rounded, “bubbly” units would be equally cool. Fun episode! (Every mega-camper needs a stout winch! Winches are so cool!!) Converting a monster recycling truck into a camper would be great; lift arms re-purposed somehow.
@eggbirdtherooster
@eggbirdtherooster 2 года назад
German engineering at its finest! 👌🏼
@mckymcobvious3043
@mckymcobvious3043 3 года назад
noooo, give me a TOUR of the awesome INTERIORS!
@supadupahilton6848
@supadupahilton6848 3 года назад
I watched this video last night. My whole life I'd never seen a firetruck like that since I live in the US. So Im stopped at a light a few minutes ago, and what pulls up next to me? THE SAME RED MERCEDES FIRE TRUCK! In California!! It was the two bay version, but other than that identical!
@thegrinch8161
@thegrinch8161 8 месяцев назад
This is the 3rd time I’ve watched this video and like the previous twice I’ve watched it it’s just like watching it for the first time it is that good and thank you for making this video. 🙏🙏🙏
@804hum
@804hum 4 года назад
Andre is very innovative.......its amazing work.....very captivating to c how they turned an old truck into a beautiful motorhome.
@steadytube
@steadytube 2 года назад
great documentary. i really like the small outfit that work with the older vehicles. the MAN was nice but shows that if you throw enough money at something you will get it.
@pahzplace7853
@pahzplace7853 4 года назад
Awesome!!! Every second of this video was worth watching! Content you can actually learn something from.
@trittandon
@trittandon 4 года назад
That's one well preserved Firetruck container. Damn...
@anndrew7958
@anndrew7958 4 года назад
The MAN is so beautiful and so much power from the engine
@CritterFritter
@CritterFritter 4 года назад
Good job Andre and team!
@804hum
@804hum 4 года назад
WELT is amazing.......the way they turned and old fire truck into a beautiful motor home is lovely..such hard work and precesion ....you guys are amazing...
@marydenis6619
@marydenis6619 Год назад
who doesn't want one of these?
@cadreops6067
@cadreops6067 2 года назад
👍👍 Absolutely stunning and jaw droppingly impressive!
@daveblack6951
@daveblack6951 4 года назад
Just brilliant! I'd be happy with either of the motorhomes, but bigger is better if one can afford it.
@axeglobaledunetwork5877
@axeglobaledunetwork5877 4 года назад
Amazing work.. this video was well put and details and approach wonderful.. awesome wrk 👍👍👍👍 well done projects so professional
@salimchoudhry7426
@salimchoudhry7426 2 года назад
Excellent hard work, high quality stuff used
@Mr.C_101
@Mr.C_101 2 года назад
I like that the Berlin boss still has a haircut from 1989... probably kept it as a souvenir after "die Wende"
@Brido
@Brido 4 года назад
Very Interesting, Really Enjoyed
@KB-ut4xs
@KB-ut4xs 2 года назад
I really liked the smaller one much better. That other behemoth will have so many limitations on where you can actually drive lmao
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 2 года назад
giud fírvyiu
@vanbusgeo675
@vanbusgeo675 3 года назад
This video is epic guys!! I’ve got an off grid short bus camper. Not quite as gnar as these but I overland with it! It does great! 🤙🤙
@scotshanley
@scotshanley Год назад
Two completely badass vehicles. It blows my mind that the smaller of the two only has a 280hp engine, for reference my BMW S1000RR motorcycle has 205hp. The fact that the smaller vehicle is so capable of moving that amount of mass so efficiently yet only has 75hp more then my motorcycle is mind blowing 🤯. Nice work to all the gentleman involved in both projects 👍 👏 Truly beautiful work. 👍😉😎👍
@paaksolutions8283
@paaksolutions8283 Год назад
Its all about torque and torque conversion
@method2madness1
@method2madness1 5 месяцев назад
Your bike, if you can call it a motorcycle. That piece of art is designed for speed, style and raw horsepower. If you do that to an engine it may fail, failing is usually fatal or atleast takes it out. Underpowered engines last longer.
@bissankh111
@bissankh111 4 года назад
Beautiful and elaborate smart building process, I wish you success always
@canislupis3129
@canislupis3129 4 года назад
As always, love the Germans total dedication to quality from start to finish. Seems to me the problem of allowable weight for the rating of the owners driver’s license could be improved by the driver qualifying for a superior rating? It becomes evident that this isn’t a huge factory set up with high end equipment to do the total build under one roof. That’s ok for me. It shows they hustle parts and trucks from wherever they can and then have to engineer on the fly, take in customer requests and modify to supply. They are a small group with broad skill sets. They discussed the length of the chassis may be a problem over harsh terrain. Would it be possible to have some kind of articulating knuckle in the middle so that you could momentarily accommodate a high center type of situation. It would offer the owner/driver an option to safely drive his rig out of that unbalanced scenario. love the mock-up on the separate wooden unit that will be the layout the customer wants.
@diraltmcallister3523
@diraltmcallister3523 4 года назад
They have that artic in the center in certain dumptrucks, it's called a wigwag and it's a complete fuckup. Look up center steer or wigwag fuck ups. They're rather spectacular
@bohemoth1
@bohemoth1 2 года назад
Yes unlike the American auto workers who always are looking for short cuts at an over inflated price. The American AUTO Workers have always been notorious for COST OVER RUNS of cheaply made products. Lately the Americans have become parred with China in cheap goods. But unlike China the American cheap goods are extremely expensive. I really love the way Germany works with extreme pride in their work. It's their dedication for perfection that really impresses me.
@exploranator
@exploranator 2 года назад
Yup, Germans "Engineering stuff on the fly" is something of their specialty, yes?
@davidleider4372
@davidleider4372 4 года назад
@WELT Documentary keep making great documentaries hope to see more .
@avnmech
@avnmech 2 года назад
I’d rather have the fire truck version. Both are beautiful trucks, but to me the fire truck guys are kinda the underdogs coming in for the win!
@RobbertHoek
@RobbertHoek 3 года назад
Nice, this was very interesting! But the 8x8 MAN is being tested on ground that can be driven by a normal car without much problems.... the old Merc, now thats a proper test! i really like the look of the MAN but if had to choose one i'd go for the 4x4 mercedes. the builder is right, the older engine and such can be fixed way easier in the wild.
@socalfun64
@socalfun64 4 года назад
Amazing documentary production! 👍🏻
@peredavi
@peredavi 2 года назад
Impressive. I really like my Tundra/ FourWheel camper.
@vexmesilly
@vexmesilly 3 года назад
Amazing watch, thanks.
@burnerjack01
@burnerjack01 4 года назад
The quality of the build would amazing if this were offered by any of the bigger camper makers, but it's downright staggering for a DIY. The level of clear vision and innovation is just amazing. The bathroom looks like it works well and the inside/outside pantry access will be standard on top tier campers in the future. My only possible change might be the exterior color to better blend in with the intended operating environment. Although, as many boaters know, white yields less thermal stress on the skin and makes for a cooler interior which is a big plus in the warmer climes, and/or seasons. All in all, on a scale or 0-10, I'd give a "100". Out of ten. That's how beyond full scale I see this.
@jolozafra8601
@jolozafra8601 4 года назад
the rockers are crazy amazing
@mayattv4986
@mayattv4986 4 года назад
This quarantine made us watch countless hours of different videos.
@lexus8405
@lexus8405 2 года назад
I love this 😀
@TorneiroIPI
@TorneiroIPI 3 года назад
Essa Man é um monstro! Eu ficaria um pouco feliz com um desse. ❤
@welcome2myworld1.o89
@welcome2myworld1.o89 4 года назад
Wow! I want the 8x8 but with a isx15 Cummins engine with all of the manual gears possible! And I want lockers all the way around! And a 100% bullet proof and bomb proof construction!
@strong-islandny7799
@strong-islandny7799 3 года назад
Agreed! Me too, especially with the bullet and bomb proofing. Hell yeah. Love this shit.
@NeutralGenericUser
@NeutralGenericUser 3 года назад
Thank you for this excellent documentary!
@JoshElrod-lb9ib
@JoshElrod-lb9ib 6 месяцев назад
Thank You ..
@NomadicLiving
@NomadicLiving 3 года назад
What they fail to discuss is how many place you can actually drive those things - the beautiful, desirable locations don't allow giant trucks tearing up the pristine landscape. In the locations nobody cares if it gets torn up, nobody wants to spend much time in because it is dull and un-glamourous. Expensive overland vehicles overland about 20% for actual overlanding, the rest of the time, they will be where everyone else is - in campgrounds, in parking lots, and on roads.
@roadie3124
@roadie3124 4 года назад
We have many "Grey Nomads" traveling around Australia in RVs and caravans/trailers. Some of them want to go north, up Cape Yorke. Very few of their vehicles survive more that 20 km or so off the bitumen. They shake to death on the corrugations. Proper off-road vehicles like these are the way to go. We've been building them for at least 60 years, but probably not as lux as these ones.
@CryMoar_
@CryMoar_ 2 года назад
I can't help but think that gonna look nice when it tips on its side and wrecks those "real glass windows"
@nenesautoreviews
@nenesautoreviews 2 года назад
This is freaking awsum & of course alot of work, yall did a excellent job. I would love to have one but whew the 💰 for them is ouch so I would be happy just to check one out.
@KeepNitReeel
@KeepNitReeel 4 года назад
*THIS type of vehicle is my dream home!* ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@0nowztar495
@0nowztar495 3 года назад
keep dreaming my friend.. = D
@catand9889
@catand9889 2 года назад
This is exactly what I would consider traveling in or even living in on the road. This so amazing 🤩
@Dave-qq6rg
@Dave-qq6rg 4 года назад
great video loved it one best i seen for long time
@platinumrobinson2516
@platinumrobinson2516 7 месяцев назад
Outstanding information,
@reno2028
@reno2028 4 года назад
Made in Germany 👌👍
@mog882
@mog882 3 года назад
10:15 “A truck weighing machine,” also known as a “scale.”
@deandarvin553
@deandarvin553 2 года назад
Saw the larger truck in the intro and immediately thought "This is something an Arab prince would by for one season, clout, and have it occupy a garage until they resell it five years later. Then they confirmed that 10 minutes in.
@johnsumner6185
@johnsumner6185 3 года назад
Takes 'glamping' to the next level! I will camp in my element thanks.
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 2 года назад
ñopé
@aerorobnz
@aerorobnz 2 года назад
This is one of the things I'd spend a big windfall on. I have been away in Africa and South America in overland trucks on Safari and crossing the Amazon, and there really is nothing quite like it. With this current situation, I can't think of a better way to travel short of a private jet and megayacht.
@aerorobnz
@aerorobnz 2 года назад
​@@onlysolutions6612 payback for what? I don't follow, I was talking about how useful an all terrain fully contained transport that is capable of travelling to the sparcely populated parts of the world far away from suburban pandemic lockdowns would be,
@Peglegkickboxer
@Peglegkickboxer Год назад
This is how you get robbed in south America or Africa
@Bodragon
@Bodragon 4 года назад
(26:36) - Don't like the way that ceiling edge "underlaps" the side wall. OK, it will be sealed but after a few years of harsh sunlight and other extreme weather, the sealant will become brittle and crack. All along the top edges is just rain-leaking waiting to happen. If only the outer edge of the ceiling *_overlapped,_* rather than underlapped, then any failing sealant would be much less of a problem. I wish the guys building this thing would comment on my concern. >
@megaluumukiisseli
@megaluumukiisseli 4 года назад
I agree. Or add another flap outside for double lapping.
@checkmilu
@checkmilu 4 года назад
Yep, it's a silly mistake! If it's overlap there's no sealant needed
@gocha-gocha3705
@gocha-gocha3705 4 года назад
@@checkmilu That was in purpose, they want the prince to come again in the next few years for service... lol..
@Jabber-ig3iw
@Jabber-ig3iw 4 года назад
Done a few trips to Africa and South America in vehicles similar to these, no luxury but you definitely get off the beaten track.
@MsJinkerson
@MsJinkerson 4 года назад
I love those pass through doors
@user-lq3ei3rv1u
@user-lq3ei3rv1u 3 года назад
Great job! But what happened with the green cabin? As was said "repainted". But the silver one is kind of medium size between the red one and silver.
@RussellEShive
@RussellEShive 3 года назад
They said they were swapping the single cab with a double cab with 4 seats. The finished vehicle only had the single cab with 2 seats. Did I miss something? Where is the double cab?
@derekstratford8214
@derekstratford8214 2 года назад
It is a double cab
@andrewcraven304
@andrewcraven304 Год назад
I was thinking the same. It's neither the origional cab nor the green one, Probably one they made earlier!
@mikeklinger1712
@mikeklinger1712 Год назад
It's an extended cab back backseats fold down
@KC-ic7vi
@KC-ic7vi Год назад
this is actually a double cab manual sep fold bi-tech system, so youre wrong...the double cab is directly imbedded in an al insertion pipes, taking big d in the bum while cabbing the truck swartz had that in his detailed conversion planning.
@stephenkennedy9152
@stephenkennedy9152 3 года назад
Very nice well done I like very much
@edilbertotemplo160
@edilbertotemplo160 3 года назад
Thanks RU-vid for the recommendation
@gabrielflorinmanole6148
@gabrielflorinmanole6148 4 года назад
6.000 working hours for the carpenter is like almost 3 YEARS. Is this possible!?!😨😨😨
@k.m5663
@k.m5663 4 года назад
Great video. Keep them coming OR translate the other ones :-)
@robertallen6710
@robertallen6710 4 года назад
Hello you...
@apriljones2843
@apriljones2843 3 года назад
Truck weighing machine ? A scale, perhaps ?
@sicks6six
@sicks6six Год назад
The combination of old and new appeals greatly, solar panels for a microwave oven WI-FI and wood burning stove for hot water and cooking,
@KuyaCejeeChad
@KuyaCejeeChad 4 года назад
nice and perfect vehicles
@icywolf777
@icywolf777 4 года назад
after this i just remember tornberry's family
@cosmicsovereign9429
@cosmicsovereign9429 4 года назад
Those were them days....😌
@shitmonkey
@shitmonkey 4 года назад
I like the princes monster but I would have added all wheel steering because with that tandem front end you have the turning radius of an ocean liner.. other than that it is awesome
@deekamikaze
@deekamikaze 4 года назад
It isn't really meant for the roads. It's more of a cross continent vehicle. I watch a couple small RU-vidrs who take theirs across different continents and don't really take paved roads very often. Adding rear wheel steering is just another thing to break while offroading.
@shitmonkey
@shitmonkey 4 года назад
@@deekamikaze yeah but on a tight trail with a long vehicle it is worth its weight in gold..
@robertallen6710
@robertallen6710 4 года назад
The vehicle is almost useless w/o some kind of compensating turning/steering feature for the rear wheels...without it, when run off road (truly off road) will constantly run into malfunction junctions....tight turns especially and with such a high center of gravity extreme care would have to be exercised negotiating grades which require a steep traverse...analogy might be, vehicle is like a beautiful woman that can't do anything in bed...lol And it would be pointless to pour so much into a project like this unless it could truly off road.....
@CuriousGoose
@CuriousGoose 4 года назад
@@deekamikaze which channels? I'd like to watch that.
@deekamikaze
@deekamikaze 4 года назад
@@CuriousGoose Peter Strub is the channel that comes to mind. I can't remember the name of the other channel.
@dylanwebber763
@dylanwebber763 Год назад
this is straight up good TV
@imranzaki4393
@imranzaki4393 4 года назад
excellent work
@dinshawmuncherjee5123
@dinshawmuncherjee5123 4 года назад
This team of young mechanical engineers have made the dreams of these adventurists come true. This documentary certainly promotes those who have the wherewithal to live and give their kids that feeling of the outdoors and adventure. Fantastic construction and brilliantly depicted. Thanks for the thrills
@railgap
@railgap Год назад
How much do comments like this cost, you transparent shill?
@BradSaintGeorge
@BradSaintGeorge 4 года назад
16:47 "De-cabitated" lol 🤣😂🚚🚛
@yaofficer8162
@yaofficer8162 4 года назад
Wow was an awesome documentary video.
@armandobardo6861
@armandobardo6861 2 года назад
a suitable vehicle for when much of the world was under the sea for decades to come
@JB-io7gv
@JB-io7gv 3 года назад
They need to make one its gonna be a little heavy but make it zombie proof have metal come down over the window and door and make sure the motor outside only opens from owner and bullet proof
@barneyrubbles2285
@barneyrubbles2285 4 года назад
I WANT ONE OK, I LIKE THEM ALOT.
@joed7534
@joed7534 3 года назад
The servants will follow behind in 25 of his Toyota Land cruisers.
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 2 года назад
me tóo
@GP-MB-Baden-WurttembergDeutsch
@GP-MB-Baden-WurttembergDeutsch 4 года назад
Ich komme in der naehe Stuttgart aber ich wohne in Vancouver Canada,aber ist zeit das wir bauen (machen) the best of the best Motorhomes For Adventures. Just keep coming spitze ;) :)
@flybyairplane3528
@flybyairplane3528 4 года назад
GP-MB-0123 Baden-Württemberg Deutschland hootenanny tag, I was in your area in 2001 PFORZHEIM , I think, the vehicle, ma is built on a VW diesel V6 Mal 6speed transmission Th wa1 in NJ driving from ARGENTINA, ALIFAX NS to ship back to DE,,then back to SWISS , Cheers From NJ. USA🇩🇪🇺🇸
@haraldpettersen3649
@haraldpettersen3649 3 года назад
Fantastic.
@guyazbell7437
@guyazbell7437 4 года назад
Thats what i would do if feesable the germans are very smart peaple who put quality first.
@patrick35400
@patrick35400 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing, good vid' we apreciate to talk about prices. With a good used truck (old army) we can expect a good camper for a total price less than 100 000 US$. The word is "travel as light as possible" And for me the 30 Years truck merco is the limit. I used the same for heavy jobs such as jobs with oil companies. But spare parts are expensives.
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 2 года назад
chraséler bybrré miñí van unver 10000
@statenmh123
@statenmh123 4 года назад
wow good job
@itsshabee3727
@itsshabee3727 4 года назад
Amazing
@fromtracywithlove2856
@fromtracywithlove2856 4 года назад
I’m in ❤️❤️❤️
@cliffordchitau5879
@cliffordchitau5879 4 года назад
Trcy
@rapskallion
@rapskallion 3 года назад
29:51 "In the end the carpenter will have put in 6,000 working hours" Forgive my skepticism but 6,000 hours is equal to 750 8-hour work days. I doubt this project took him over 2 years (with no days off) to complete. In fact, with a five day work week it would take almost 3 years to complete. (3 years - 6,240 hours)
@INMATE.EARTHmusic
@INMATE.EARTHmusic Год назад
...so , then take 10 carpenters who work on , do the math ... 😎
@AlainCarAudioManiac
@AlainCarAudioManiac 4 года назад
This is so cool
@user-uw5kv6de4p
@user-uw5kv6de4p 3 года назад
Вы очень хорошая компания!!! Очень понравился МАН 6/6.
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 2 года назад
me too
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