Officer's React #29 - Southland (Officer Discretion Edition)

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Texas LEOs Josh and Bill go hard in Southland.
Southland is an American crime drama television series[1] created by writer Ann Biderman and produced by Warner Bros. Television. Southland takes a "raw and authentic look" at Los Angeles and the lives of the LAPD officers who police it. The show's first season centers on the experiences and interactions of LAPD patrol officers and detectives, and is more a character-driven drama than a police procedural.
Among the characters are rookie Officer Ben Sherman and his training officer, John Cooper. Detective Lydia Adams, who must balance work with the responsibility of living with her mother; Officer Chickie Brown, who aspires to be the first woman on the LAPD's elite SWAT team; and Detective Sammy Bryant, whose home life interferes with his working life.
After its first season on NBC, Southland moved to TNT network. The second season placed less emphasis on the ensemble cast, instead focusing more on the Adams, Sherman, Cooper and Bryant characters and their partners. The weekly stories also centered more on how crimes came together, with fewer serialized story lines.
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@John-ym9ic Год назад

2000’s LA policing was next level

@jamesknickel6302 5 месяцев назад

you spit in my face, your face is gonna say high to my fist

@LongShlongJohnson 7 месяцев назад

He wants to stop crime but he hates paperwork 😂😂

@OnlyCops 7 месяцев назад

That is definitely counter intuitive 😅

@dragondisciple1205 4 месяца назад

Growing up in the 80s, if I called the cops on my mom, they might’ve whipped my ass

@OnlyCops 4 месяца назад

Having grown up in the 90s I can confirm 😅

@Explorer920023 2 года назад

When the female suspect decided to hit Ofcr. Sherman and then spit in his face, he would have had full autonomy in order to strike the female in the manner he did, all that would have happened would have been that Ofcr. Sherman would have had to fill out a detailed report which would have been labeled as a CUOF ( Categorical Use Of Force) then probably got some days off so the investigation could be completed but in the grand scheme of things, you have her on 241 PC- Assault On a Peace Officer which in the state of California is punishable as a misdemeanor and up to 1 year in jail now had he been injured in the incident, she would have faced a more serious charge of Battery of a Peace Officer which is charged as a wobbler in California. 243(c) PC or one that would have required the element of serious injury to the officer 243(d) PC. She also would have been charged with 148(a)(1) PC- Resisting, Delaying, and Obstructing an Officer when she interfered with the officer's duty to take suspect #1 in custody and keep in mind, that's in addition to the possible charge of criminal trespass which is 602 PC

@rodzilla355 2 года назад

I am so glad I am at the end of my 30 year career.....I had a lot of fun in the early 90's when we could be real cops. It is still fun now but the 90's were awesome for us in law enforcement.

@OnlyCops 2 года назад

I am beyond jealous!

@Jartran72 2 месяца назад

Because you did not have to wear bodycams? Regulations and requirements are so lax around police and you have the strongest union in history, constantly getting you out of what should be a murder rap with a paid vacation. Or did you mean you could still slap and threaten suspects? It is insane how you get the slightest amount of pushback and way too much funding, barely ever stop or atleaat solve crimes and then have the gall to complain about pushback from the population against police violence. Not even starting on the Reid method that put 100000s of innocent people in jail over the years and cops still use it. You don't even realise how ridicoulus you sound.

@darealist690 Месяц назад

@@Jartran72yapatron somebody’s writing a book

@ricogarcia6611 Год назад

Thanks for the laughs, great video. Still working as LEO... 31 years and counting. Be safe.....

@OnlyCops Год назад

Stay safe!

@TheUsualSuspect43 4 месяца назад

Look into 19-2, it’s very similar to SouthLand but it’s a Canadian show set in Montreal.

@OnlyCops 4 месяца назад

We have 2 episodes from them. It's a really great show!

@davidmyhra4931 9 месяцев назад

My dad was a cop in the 70s and 80s officer discretion was off the charts back then

@OnlyCops 9 месяцев назад

I could only imagine 🤣

@MikeNapoli1989 10 месяцев назад

What a lot of people (not just officers) is sometimes going by the book, all of the time, can get you in trouble. Every situation is different. Even detective Lydia Adam’s said at one point in the series “sometimes doing the right thing, is the wrong thing.”

@OnlyCops 10 месяцев назад

I couldn't agree more. The book is a guideline of principles, not hard and fast rules. Almost every situation will require some unique solution to a problem.

@loganknight12 Год назад

The punch for a punch one I’m perfectly fine with.

@BipoIarbear Год назад

All these are based on real calls dramatised for the show , love southland

@OnlyCops Год назад

Agreed 😁

@BipoIarbear Год назад

@@OnlyCops thanks guys

@owenwilliams4039 Месяц назад

I am in favour of officer discretion, but there should be a database of suspected offenders that were let go due to that discretion.

@OnlyCops Месяц назад

I definitely think there should be a tally kept on that kind of stuff. If an officer is too often wrong, they should be demoted or let go

@caseyryan1 29 дней назад

3:30 so interesting to hear that's what a real officer might do. I took a police exam and it had a question like "how would you handle paraphernalia like a pipe, joint, etc." and I said I'd dispose of it by breaking it or otherwise discarding it, but I would not turn it into evidence. As it turns out that was the wrong answer. The answer they wanted is you take it into evidence and file a report.

@OnlyCops 28 дней назад

If you are choosing to charge them for a paraphernalia, then you would need to take it in for evidence. But if you were going to destroy it and let it go, then technically you have the discretion in some departments to do that.

@Robert53area 2 месяца назад

Oh i didnt know this was including the kid episode. I got so mad at this episode, my dad would break a belt on my rear, for all of these things. I had teachers write a letter home one time for not sitting down in class after my dad spanked me. Still no bruising or visible but my butt sure hurt the next day. It was because my older sister stole, and her and my younger brother conspired against me and i was punished for lying and stealing the candy as it was me that did get the candy down. But my siblings ate it all. Shout out from Texas.

@OnlyCops 2 месяца назад

Yeah my parents didn't spare the rod and spanked me enough to keep time 🤣🤣🤣 I turned out better for it. God bless Texas!

@pamelapogue8377 2 года назад

For discretion if officer is honest

@Nagarath16 Месяц назад

I was never hit, but... I wished my parents or ESPECIALLY Children's house adult would have hit me. It would have been less cruel or if it was too much, there would have been proof. The mental abuse what they gave instead later gave me diagnosis from a team of mental health workers: "Because of mental abuse in childhood, your physical brain didn't develop right." That was the best they could figure out. I do have ADHD also, but I don't fully fit to it either. And there is no medical code for that or real way to medically really prove it, so the kinda couldn't chart it in my medical history - never mind anybody knowing how to help me, I still remember how silently lost the head psychiatrist was. To this day when I'm asking for a help, I get thrown around as a hot potato between medical departments, because all know something is wrong with me - but there isn't place for me in healthcare. So... Take the fcking belt kid. When guardians start to avoid punishment that can be proven, you become the worse option: me. Is it okay to be not funny under older videos? xD My real humor is already similar or worse level than medical examiners, so in away this rant is funnier to most people. And I didn't need to see any bodies to get that level of funny.

@OnlyCops Месяц назад

I am pro spanking lol

@crashconstructionunfiltere3829 25 дней назад

I don’t think Ben was in training in this episode, he was partnered with the other cop.

@OnlyCops 24 дня назад

That makes sense!

@blankforge 2 года назад

Love the belt kid scene. But also I agree with the punching guy. Take a punch or go to jail? Hell bro knock my last tooth out.

@OnlyCops 2 года назад

The belt scene was the best lol

@loganknight12 Год назад

Punch for a punch is perfectly fine by me it’s biblical an eye for an eye

@sivonni 9 месяцев назад

My mom spanked me but it hurt her emotionally so we ended up in corners alot insteaed. My dad spanked me with a belt and I'd scream before he'd even touch me, which made my grandfather threaten to call the cops and check my legs and back to make sure I wasn't being actually abused. By the time I was a teen, it was all lectures all the time. Dad actually figured out the worst punishment for us: he'd make us stand at the end of his bed, silent, while he read a book. We couldn't talk, move, go to the bathroom, nothing, for what felt like hours (usually half an hour tops) and then he'd finally put the book down and start his lecture, after which would come the "punishment" (extra chores, repairs, apologizing, whatever fit the situation) but the real punishment was the standing in silence. We're all talkers and that was torture. I think a lot of people consider spanking with a belt to be abuse but I would never treat my parents with the level of disrespect I see in kids nowadays. That said, my folks also didn't really spank us much or for long. My sister has 10 kids and rarely has spanked any of the them and their amazingly well behaved kids. I think parental modeling behavior does more for child rearing than spanking ever did. But there's definitely a difference between spankings and abuse.

@OnlyCops 9 месяцев назад

I couldn't have said it better myself. Modeling behavior is by far the most important aspect parents miss and meeting the needs of the child keep moat children on the straight and arrow.

@GimbleOnDew 7 месяцев назад

I disagree on the upskirt. The guy is just going to do it again, and or goes farther and grapes a girld.

@machinta-the-grinlin 9 месяцев назад

you have responsibility's over and to your child as such knowing when to use your words to get your point across vs useing physical discipline. as someone who grew up with parents who did both i understand vary much that there are times when you need to send a clear messaged saying to not do this or to not act like that as it is either unbecoming or can lead to problems later on in life. and i'm only 25 so kids who might be younger may see it differently but i can tell you right now if my parents had not disciplined me the way they did i whould be in jail or dead because i whould not have learned everything's i should have growing up without it. i personally think that depriving a parents right to tell a kid what is right and wrong in a physical manner is wrong because it leads to the mindset that oh this is bad but i can get away with it because all i get is a talking too and my things taken away and that later in life will either land them in prison, in jail or worse dead because if you say the wrong thing to the wrong person your going to end up with a lot more then hurt feelings.

@OnlyCops 9 месяцев назад

Every kid requires unique solutions to ensure they don't grow up to be assholes. I required spanking and got them pretty frequently 😅 I turned out pretty okay lol

@robertslegers257 6 месяцев назад

Southland was the best!

@OnlyCops 6 месяцев назад

Agreed!

@jaymesonbell8040 23 дня назад

My moms fiance when i was younger used to beat me for small things. One time i got mad over not being allowed to play video games because in my kid mind i was idek😂 but i punched the counter so he put me in a headlock and swung me around punched me repeatedly in the back of the head and the middle of my back. Another time he punched me in the leg because i was crying that he made mom get rid of my dog so he punched me in the leg so hard it swelled up to softball size. Any of those child abuse? I called cops and CPS numerous times when it was happening but never did anything so just curious. Also it happened till i learned how to fight

@OnlyCops 22 дня назад

Most of what you described is 100% child abuse. Even in states like Texas where you can spank your kids, there has to be a "dictionary cause" and "reasonable amount of force" used. Anything leaving a mark or causing more than just pain can lead to charges. This happened infamously to NFL runningback Adrian Peterson a couple of years ago

@roarc1681 9 месяцев назад

I remember the first time I ran away from home, when i finally went to school cause i was hungry several officers were there, and I do remember that they were talking rought to me almost trying to scare me, but all i could focus on was my caretaker in the other room, I now notice when i replay it i my head that they wanted to see my reaction to them. thier the principal's office and the outer office that is the assit principals office she was in that office crying her eyes out while the cops talked to her. they put us facing each other and even though they were screaming at me they had to kinda hit the table for me to look away from her and look at them it almost as if they werent their the cops were background objects the only thing that mattered was the person in front of me and all i could think was why is she crying im going to have to go home with her. I wish I told them it was 4 yrs of pain and abuse and lonliness before i finally fought back. When i did that, she kicked me out of the house by taking me to a family members house a left me there, cant abuse someone who fights back. The cops were not trying to scare me they wanted to see who i was more scared of large scary at the moment men (was not scared) that were talking rough or the small helpess lady that was crying her eyes out in the other room. I wish i told them cause now i see what they were doing i really wish i told them, that why it piss me off how kids today use the word abuse so freely like its nothing. Sorry for the grammer TX raised.

@OnlyCops 9 месяцев назад

It's all good, I went to school in Texas public too 😅 I'm sorry you went through what you did but it happens WAY more often than people realize. Kids really are helpless in a lot of situations and it's the worst calls for cops because they often can do very little to help.

@johnnyguitar6639 Год назад

I see you argument about the punch,in the beginning of your vid 5:58 But to play devil's advocate here. If the guy who had to take the punch,decide to go forward with it. If he tells on the cops,he will also have face that all his "friends",and everyone else who gets wind of it. Will know he got knocked out by an old guy+Wouldn't he in the process of pressing charges(or what's it called),also be admitting guilt, to have thrown the first punch that started it all?

@OnlyCops Год назад

I think in the end the punch is justified, it's just never good to get yourself caught in a fist fight if it can be avoided. That being said you are correct about the catch 22 of trying to press charges

@johnnyguitar6639 Год назад

@@OnlyCops Ok.Thanx for taking the time to explain. Appreciate it.

@OnlyCops Год назад

@@johnnyguitar6639 thanks for the feedback! I hope we can continue to provide good content 😁

@johnnyguitar6639 Год назад

@@OnlyCops Your welcome.Out of curiosity. Have you ever came across a catch 22 of that type? Someone dumb enough to confess to a crime,while wanting to press charges against someone?

@dragondisciple1205 4 месяца назад

😅yes for the iPod situation No for the punch but I understand

@OnlyCops 4 месяца назад

🤣

@sivonni 9 месяцев назад

I actually had a question about blocking sidewalks. Locally, we have a lot of homeless people in tents (they were handed out during the pandemic) and I've seen a number of these tents just set up in the middle of a sidewalk, completely blocking the walkway. That has to be illegal, right?

@OnlyCops 9 месяцев назад

In most states "blocking an easement" is prohibited but is typically prohibited at the local court level (a misdemeanor) and enforcement is strictly up to the jurisdiction/judge/DA's office. We had the same issue with panhandling in my city. It was illegal but we were not allowed to enforce it because the city managers office did not want us to for "optics". It was a blast

@pamelapogue8377 2 года назад

Hi Guys!!

@OnlyCops 2 года назад

Hey girl!

@JOHNSMITH-dc6lr 2 месяца назад

Hey guys big fan lv ur 4 cents on everything, I was wondering can u do a video on lvmpd body cams on the Las Vegas massacre of 2017, there's prob over 50 long detailed videos on how many that response was, soooooooo many things were done wrong, thank you

@OnlyCops 2 месяца назад

Thank you for appreciating our 4 cents 😊 I have a pretty big tin foil hat for what happened that day in Vegas, but I am definitely with you that the emergency response should have been better than it was

@user-rg5fo7hn3h 4 месяца назад

Wait hold on, in this scenario, what if going through the right channels would be better because usually when somebody does this it happened before, what if he has se other stuff on there like child cornographia and further way sicker stuff. Then going through the right channels would be better wouldn’t it?

@OnlyCops 4 месяца назад

I do agree that going through the proper way of seizing the phone is still preferable to ensure there is nothing else going on (like you described). The only down side is the victim having to go through the reporting process and whatnot.

@conorcahill5422 9 месяцев назад

I am not sure I would be happy if I was a police officer, doing my job and I was being recorded by a bunch of incompetent people. Watching those individuals filming Sherman punching the lady who spat in his face is in my mind a felony, because when you're an officer of the law, you're making every effort to uphold it and you're being disrespected for it by people who are either risking your confidentiality/livelihood or who only want to gain popularity from it. Personally, I think it should be made illegal to record an officer's role, unless they do something against their conduct. Sherman did no such thing. He did what I would have done; what anybody else should do.

@OnlyCops 9 месяцев назад

I understand both sides of the fence on this issue, I will always lean towards if it's a public place all is fair game. But dealing with shitheads gets pretty old pretty fast.

@clarakam3858 4 месяца назад

Oh my God sorry but i have to whrite this. I grew up in the 80' / 90' & in a latin/ balkanic home. Believe me you have no ideea how wopping looks like😂😂😂. In our house if my father just looked at you uglly you knew your in trouble : options : belt, slipers, stick on your as...but not only from your parents , teachers, neibhors, big brothers/ sisters , if you did or said something wrong you knew for sure you will get wiped😂but i am thankfull for the way i grew up . My teacher had a saying :" i will punish you for litlle thinks so i know you will not doing big wrong thinks...sorry for my bad english is not my first lanq❤

@OnlyCops 4 месяца назад

I got spanked a decent amount growing up 🤣 I think I turned out just fine lol

@Anwesha_Rath04 9 месяцев назад

I always have a good share of laughs whenever I watch your videos .....but I have a question , who between you two are josh and bill? The one with less beard is a total sweetheart lol , he totally resembles with my big brother😂😂

@OnlyCops 9 месяцев назад

You are referring to Josh (me answering the comments) and I hope your big brother is a nice dude 😁

@Anwesha_Rath04 9 месяцев назад

@@OnlyCops yeah , he is totally the Indian version of you 🤗🤗

@bradyblu4794 2 года назад

Would Officers React review "Batman: The Animated Series" season 1, episode 7. "P.O.V" about the GCPD.

@OnlyCops 2 года назад

Bet!

@kennethedwardsjr.8742 6 месяцев назад

The issue with the iPod handling is he isn’t helping the next victim. He has no real long term deterrent.

@OnlyCops 6 месяцев назад

You're not wrong

@leojamesclune1730 Месяц назад

This is also from some years ago, and I presume that the cost of the device replacement was not something to sneeze at. Correct me if I'm wrong

@user-rl8ji 2 года назад

At the end of the day I think It's wrong to consider a belt whooping to be child abuse, because there are worse things someone can do to a child and something like this can take away from those suffering kids. For example the Turpin Family, kid should be grateful he has a mom that cares.

@OnlyCops 2 года назад

Based. All kids (like people) are different and require different discipline structures. Either way the objective should be to not raise assholes lol I am team spank that kid for life

@maxiegrobner9018 11 месяцев назад

To the first question. Body cams on officers presupposes no officer discretion desired. Whatever’s on the books is what the officer should deliver. The woman they’re protecting probably thinks body cams are a good idea.

@OnlyCops 10 месяцев назад

We are huge supporters of bodycams, I would much rather have them than not in any LEO interaction. The issue is with the law, shall arrest laws or jurisdiction policies on application of the laws are what hurt officer discretion in the few (less than 1%) of calls where I find it more harmful to not have it. Having to arrest a kid for a 1/10 ounce of weed instead of giving him a citation/warning is crushing to public trust and officer public relations. There is however always the space for abuse of the discretion so I understand the other side of the argument.

@erikcubias6616 5 месяцев назад

Wouldn't he be put on a list if it went to court.

@OnlyCops 5 месяцев назад

Likely

@erikcubias6616 5 месяцев назад

@@OnlyCops So it would be better to arrest him and take him to court. In order to get him registered on a list. To prevent him from doing it again or making his next punishment more severe.

@corporalhicks4532 3 месяца назад

1:00 What they refer to as a Ipod is actually just a flip phone with a camera. (I think) I recall those.It didn't have vid .only pictures. And they were super grainy. Watching what he had "recorded" there up close like that. Would be like watching scrambled porn with your face literally glued to the tv

@OnlyCops 2 месяца назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣 you're not wrong lol

@corporalhicks4532 2 месяца назад

@@OnlyCops TNX. Maybe That was his kink, grainy cooch shots.But speaking as a Gen X who'd never had Cable. I've never been THAT starved for porn. lol Each to their own I guess. But wonder how they recruit actors to parts like that. Adds in the paper? Need grown man who look pervy and haven't showered since JFK assassination. pays is 4bux a day. OR a grainy cooch shot

@Liberty-rn4wy Год назад

I got called to be on a trial in Dallas about 15 years ago. Fortunately only the jury pool. The charge was fourth degree child abuse. So I don't quite believe it is legal to hit your kid in Texas. You definitely can get arrested for that.

@OnlyCops Год назад

I got called to be a cop for like a few years recently here in Texas. Fortunately I was good at my job and never wrongfully arrested someone without probable cause . A degree of reasonableness is allowed within the charge of "injury to a child" (look it up in Texas penal code, you can Google the elements of the offense) of which your peers/a Judge will get to decide whether or not the act of hitting your child was within a reasonable degree or force to be considered discipline. The same legal threshold for "causes pain" or "serious bodily injury" apply in those types of charges and as they would in instances of domestic violence or assault (again this is perfectly Googleable).

@snake7686 2 года назад

👍

@jivy1022 5 месяцев назад

It is my humble opinion that if you on someone you automatically forfeit your right to not be hit in the face

@JJ_LL 4 месяца назад

Yes the legal process is important. If I wanted vigilante justice then I definitely wouldn't pay taxes to the police. Get it documented, develop a case against the pervert, keep the woman informed (what if he's a stalker), create a case history with this criminal. All I saw was a vigilante with a badge that made himself feel better as he destroyed evidence. You cops are all the same. You can talk about being Civil Servants and wanting to do good by the community and being held by a higher standard but you really just want to do the job without even your boss bothering you about it and we lowly civilians just need to obey our Cop Masters because you know best........ and we better pay you. Cops get paid better than starting engineers. Most of you can't write a police report correctly the first time. Ridiculous.

@OnlyCops 4 месяца назад

I worked plenty of these calls exactly how you described (badge #3133 Arlington TX), we spend half of this episode explaining that most of what happens in Southland would no longer be acceptable practices in today's Era of policing. You either cherry picked that clip or didn't watch the whole episode if this was your take away

@JJ_LL 4 месяца назад

@@OnlyCops Yeah, I didn't watch the whole episode. I like the actor. He was on Band of Brothers, I think the North Hollywood Shootout tv movie, and he was on Boom Town. But I did watch the scene and the commentary of that scene afterward. But the point is Cop Feelings/Thoughts/Ideas can't be the only determining factor for what a good idea/procedure is. A police officer can die, get fired, be deployed elsewhere and with no record of interaction then ..... who defends that lady and escalates things with a criminal that doesn't stop? But yeah, once something irritates me then it's gonna be a while before I finish it or rewatch it. I wouldn't call it cherry picking because I'm not holding onto what's favorable to me and throwing out what doesn't profit me. I watched that clip and y'alls reaction to that clip. Just some stuff causes me to (inside) yell "WHAT?" Anyways. Have a good day.