Oh, Auth Doesn't Have to Suck? 

Auth without 3rd party! Need one full tutorial 😮

The war between Prisma and Drizzle is even in the authorization video

I hope this library gets much more attention because Nextauth’s decision to not support email password auth has been sooooo frustrating.

lucia is my love, really glad to see you made a video on it! im a big fan of the library

I'm not sure we can discuss the concept of "abstraction" as either good or bad unless you have the context of the consumers of the abstraction. I appreciate your use of the phrase "right level of abstraction" as I think that starts to indicate that the appropriateness of the abstraction is very much a sliding scale.

This is what makes me feel that next auth gets wrong,its implementation is too high level,I'm at least happy that this library strikes a balance Thanks Josh💯

Yesterday I was studying NextAuth V5 and was a headache to implement a simple credentials sign-in feature. The documentation is horrible. It's just me or anyone else think that doc is horrible? I felt dumb.

Been also using lucia v3, love it!

There's more to say about "Abstraction". Abstractions that don't give you granular controls can also be good if the things they're abstracting are **not intended to work with** for the most cases. Thus it sets up a recommended design pattern. Customization along with sane defaults doesn't work all the time. If you think about it, React is such an example of the abstraction. Monads can be regarded in the same category.

"In the beginning you want results, in the end you want control" by someone on the internet. Works here too :)

We need a full tutorial on this!!! Great video, Josh!

Just heard about this last week, glad to see you on top of this recent stuff!

I have tried Kindle, NextAuth and Clerk but haven't felt home in any of them. I like abstractions that Lucia seems to deliver. I will give a spin. Thanks for video.

I really like this take! Good job explaining this!

Very interesting, and your comments really make me feel more comfortable with going with Lucia 3.0 vs AuthJS or rolling my own.

Impressive, very nice. let's see Paul Allen's auth.

I've implemented Lucia auth today and I much prefer it over Next-auth. It doesn't force you into ugly design patterns (both backend & UI).

Please for the love of God make a full deep dive turorial

Dude, heard of Aceternity UI - it amazing

He is 19yrs old

Full tutorial please

Good library need to try it to learn. I used next-auth and don't understand exactly how it works. And I kinda getting why non abstracts good. I recently learning prisma It is very easy. Can you do a comparison or explain how drizzle works from prisma users point of view. Thanks😊

Great video Josh! I have to admit that Auth.js is cancer, especially their docs are a huge chaotic contradictory mess Regardless of whether v4 or their latest v5 I was waiting for Lucia 3 to come out because this version doesn't force the usage of an adapter, and I'm glad they brought this change For now I can safely say I'm happy with switching to Lucia, especially because their abstraction still gives me full control of how, why, when, and where I want something

Am I wrong in thinking that abstraction is good for features like Auth? I understand that it depends on the project/scenario but wondering if I am missing something. I use third-party Auth providers that provide abstraction because I don't necessarily want to know or handle everything under the hood. Thoughts?

The benefit of higher level of abstractions in terms of UI library is if you need to enforce strong design constraints and consistency

Bro you make so much sense ❤ youre the messiah we needed after being fed the enterprise bullshit for 20 years since the invention of Java.

less abstraction, huh... I like it

There goes my auth stack; you sold it really well

The title got me cracking up! OhAuth -> OAuth lmao

I need full example with this, using different auth providers and linking user if they happen to have more than one provider 😊

Banger video

Lets give some love to Lucia

exactly, the right abstraction!

That introduction part is so true and sad .NET has such an annoying part. I am so mad at it. It has abstracted out everything so it cannot be modified for our special use cases. Instead build it from the ground 0

single guys rocks 🤣

Every Josh Thumbnail: 😏

I would love to see a tutorial on Authentication that works in both Next js and public clients like SPAs and mobile apps like React Native kr Flutter without using a paid service like Clerk

I'm sure the folks at Radix are stoked you said Shadcn is just a collection of primitives. :-D

Amazing! I will give it a try

Now we need an abstraction over Lucia to support all: Password, Social, Passwordless, etc...

one thing issue with lucia and others like auth js is lack of proper resources and documentation. Would love a tutorial on lucia

Great content. Lucia is awesome

Please, do a full tutorial with credentials and OAuth login. It would be amazing!

This is great. Do they have the example / resources on how to use with fastify server. Need this to build it in my application.

Authentication is always a pain when I have to recode it every single time 😂

Dude I saw this on Twitter and I’m so annoyed bc I just implemented nextAuth but if this is good I’ll switch- I saw a boilerplate that includes stripe pre built which is amazing.

He is god i just love his work a lottt

Hi! Thanks for The valuable tips. Do you continue using Lucia or found a general Best auth solution, like a modular solution built by you?

I have seen this guy, before v1, when it used to be for sveltekit.

Josh, love your videos. I have a doubt. Is there still caching issue in NEXT JS 14 ? Does server actions resolve all these caching issues ?

Vue Composition API flashbacks

You should make one auth tutorial without any third party library.

Possible to use Lucia with React Front-End + Python FastAPI Backend?

It is basically a Shadcn for Auth.

Interesting. NextJS was smoking crack while creating NextAuth. From a quick glimpse, I can tell it's better

NextAuth was like "we cba to add credentials authentication" and they called it a feature 🤣

what auth do u use josh? Clerk, Lucia, Nextauth ?

Cool

Lucia made by a teenager, legendary!

“I have reading comprehension and the attention span of a second grader” Relate 100

full tutorial pls

How do you learn so much stuff, and when do you learn it?

Better than nextauth? I dont really like clerk

Been using next-auth for 2 years now and I'm tired of wasting days everytime I need to add a basic feature it doesn't support. Going to try and migrate to lucia today

Supertokens

Is it also possible to use Lucia Auth without Typescript?

You shouldn't implement authentication. You should buy it.

I think this is generally a good idea. However, in the OAuth case, you really have to know how the OAuth flow works...and to be honest, I think this is actually the biggest hurdle to implementing OAuth.

Is Lucia better than Clerk? Someone answer

0:38 Why is he single 😢

I just love lucia. It works. It also supports Astro.

Seems like no one got the joke in the title? 😄

next-auth is crap next-auth is crap next-auth is crap next-auth is crap next-auth is crap next-auth is crap

Wake up babe, new auth library just dropped

I just use django ❤

am I too old or this is the modern rewrite of passportjs?😂

Unless you have a team to maintain the quality, it is a dead effort to try to implement authentication on your own. Especially if you are in the EU, a data breach might put you in such a shit place. I don't get this efforts to implement auth on your own.

We call this a headless library

imo nextauth is shit to deal with, they turn things much more complicated then they should be

AuthJS's creator is an incredibly arrogant person. I had a chat with him in the authJS discord asking why it's so difficult to implement db session credentials auth and why there's zero documentation on the subject and he responded by saying "they don't like db session based auth and that's why there will never be documentation on it but authJS is the GREATEST MOST FLEXIBLE library ever made so if you were smart enough you can easily implement db session auth on your own". So in short he just "skill-issued" me and bragged about how good authJS is.

Second. ❤

first

This tool sucks, i prefer auth0 or eartho