Definitely gonna try to make the Bristol gig 🤘 I've been busking today so i can afford Also , this riff is 'kinndaaa' like 'How Many More Times' by Led Zep.
Ahh nooo. Ok, I have family in Liverpool. I'll see what I can do. If not I'll have to come to Justin Hawkins Rides Again 'Again' Next time. I did come see you guys at the OVO last Feb. Best gig I've ever been to bro honestly it was such a great night! 🤘
i dont consider it bad that music is "easy" or "simple" but i do consider it bad if the first thought in your head is another song and you cannot unhear it.
@@ryleyrichardson2808this is very true. However, I don't get the impression tried very hard this time round. Generic power chord music should be left in the past.
I unintentionally wrote a Feel Good Inc ripoff, which is really easy cause it’s a simple minor scale walkup thing, and when my friend pointed it out I was immediately furious and threw that part out. No idea how not a single person in Green Day’s squad noticed. Maybe they just didn’t care cause the song sucks
There are multiple songs by green day that all end up bleeding together in my head (as a megafan). No Pride off Insomniac, becomes Jinx off Nimrod, becomes Deadbeat Holiday off Warning. I think it's just inherent to pop punk that there's only so much versatility you have to work with in coming up with melodies that stylistically match, which is probably why since 2009 they've basically just made whatever they felt like making, genre be damned.
Green Day are actually the reason I started playing guitar when I was 12. That “takes 10 seconds to figure out” is definitely a gateway for picking up the guitar as you said.
100%. I probably wouldn't have gotten into the guitar if I had to make the direct leap from being able to play nothing to being able to play something dynamic and interesting. Power chord heavy pop punk and post punk got me started and made the instrument almost instantly rewarding to play.
Exactly the reason I used to make average £100 a day in the nineties from playing oasis for about 4 or 5 hours every night! I was glad they were so easy lol
@@kaitlyngault3987His lyrics definitely are one of the most influential with the sound they put out. I am surprised by some of the lyrics, Billie Joe Armstrong himself mostly came out with. While living a mostly good life from what I read with music he was coming out with. For me I would of thought he would of had more of a Hard time growing up. But he was playing Gigs at his School, an all around Berkeley an he was loved. The Song where he says I Got No Pride, or The Whole World Owes Me So F%#k You! Are True Hard Influential Punk Statements, We Know, but how Hard Of A Punk Was Billie? Like, Who is paying him to play thier lyrics Freemasons? Have they gone really mainstream? Were they not like an underground band like we originally thought... It maybe just for show sometimes I guess. But some songs are better, not as redundant. The older albums are always going to be better. I could talk about them forever I have been listening since Dookie was famous probably the best album.
Here's an arts and craft tip: If you were to mix the colours of pink and green then you would actually end up with a purple ...how deep the purple would be would depend on how heavy the hues of the pink and green were.
Not really. I write a lot of songs that are now starting to get released and there are lines you don’t cross. Ie. If I want to write a Hendrixy song in E… I CANNOT hit an open low E then do a hammer on to the chord. That’s ‘Yellow Ledbetter’. So instead I start with the hammer on and hit the low E hit on the second beat. Now I’m working with a completely different emphasis and the riff will magically go elsewhere.
As already mentioned in other comments, the riff originated from the Blues Magoos' We Ain't Got Nothin' Yet from 1966 and neatly carries on the colour theme!
Also sounds like Holiday to me. This might be my favorite video you've made (my other favorite is when you discussed giving permission to use your music, commercially). You managed to pick the song apart so easily and yet you still managed to say cool stuff about Green Day. I literally lol'd at the realization of colors being the common thread. No complaints here that GD's songs are simple, means I can sit down and learn their tunes on guitar for fun
They said this album will pay homage to American Idiot and Dookie. Totally holiday riff. You can hear Basket Case in American Dream is Killing me bridge
One of my favourite things about Green Day is that they are melodic above all else. I couldn't care less about wanting their songs to be complex and unpredictable just for the sake of being complex and unpredictable, we have plenty of other bands for that. I love what they do and that I can just pick up my guitar and jam to it. That's not to say they don't have songs that are hard though, because a lot of their non single tracks can be quite complex and far more difficult, like the intro in Before The Lobotomy, FOD, Jaded, Panic Song, St. Jimmy and parts of Somewhere/Forever Now just to name a few examples. They are very skilled musicians and their music gets even more complex live, but their first priority is just making good, melodic music.
I think it really depends on how long you've been playing. Before the Lobotomy is an arpeggio G - D - C - D#, and St Jimmy is just A5-D5-E5. I like Greenday, but I can't remember them writing any complex. That's not necessarily a bad thing though. Plenty of kids (myself included) picked up a guitar in 2005 because of American Idiot.
@@SoundBuckle I agree. I don't listen to Green Day much anymore but I loved them around the time I picked up guitar and feeling the rush of playing simple power chords on the first day of learning is a great motivator! They have a special place in my heart for that.
I’m pretty positive there isn’t supposed to be much thought when it comes to this song. It’s just one you play and sing along to, mindlessly. I know when I sing along, the lyrics just come to me without having to think about it, it’s kinda strange, lol.
I wish you'd have looked at "Dilemma" by them instead. I wasn't a fan of this latest single, but Dilemma is a much better song and you'd relate to it too.
Yeah, of all the new songs I have heard so far that one is definitely the "freshest" feeling Green Day song. That being said, I love Green Day because they prioritize making good music over everything else.
Green day have written some amazing stuff over the years. Let's leave this song alone and enjoy it for what it is...a feel good banger that everyone is going to love belting out at the gig.
It's like Green Day's 21 Guns sounds like the theme to Full House in the bridge...its just really hard for anyone to come up with something that sounds original when there is a finite about combinations notes can be arranged in. Its why I'm not a fan of immediately jumping to calling it a "ripoff". When Joe Satriani sued Coldplay for Viva La Vida, Chris Martin replied that he never heard Satriani's If I Could Fly...which is very possible and likely in that case.
@@hughneutron5303You mean like Blue Oyster Cult, Blue Cheer, Blue Swede, Blue Rodeo, Blue Monday, Black Flag, Black Sabbath, Black Eyed Peas, Black Oak Arkansas, The White Stripes, Barry White, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Redbone, Red Rider, Yellowjackets, Zac Brown, Jackson Browne, Pink Martini, and Orange. Did I miss any?
People being influenced and emulating other people has happened many, many, many times in life and in the entertainment industry. Whether it's Music, TV, Films or Literature. Humans in general learn by copying others and you take what you learn and put your own spin on it to suit your personality. Coming up with something new and unique these days is very difficult. It's all been done before. (See that's a total cliché.)
Justin sir. You made the connection by the band names consisting of colors and riff. Purple, Pink and Green. There happens to be one more color to add to the list, that being Blue. Released in 1966 a song called (We Ain't Got) Nothin' Yet by the Blues Magoos with the similar hook. Cheers
So Green Day took from Pink who took from Deep Purple as well as Blues Magoos! I love it. Also it feels like Billy Joe Armstrong was being snide/snotty by saying he took from Black Sabbath because Sabbath, Zepplin and Deep Purple are considered the "unholy trinity of british hard rock of the 70s". A sarcastic nod to the idea that everybody borrows from everybody, especially when writing pop as you often wind up regurgitating ear worms you can't place the origins of.
When I learned bass, way back in the 90s, I learned the modal nodes. It was a total spoiler, because all of a sudden I could unlock almost any bass line on the spot. Made it easier to build bass lines as well, finding ways to make the same chords and drum patterns sound different by moving or not moving the bass.
@@Superabound2 I’ll add though, The modes can be considered “columns” because it’s where you get your three major and minor key combinations from, plus that seventh mode full of fkt up chord options.
“In the BBC documentary Heavy Metal Britannia, keyboardist Jon Lord supports Glover's statement about the song's origin, stating "Black Night was nicked from the bass line in Ricky Nelson's Summertime" and then proceeds to play the bassline riff on his grand piano” So… even Deep Purple copied someone else.
Funny thing, Green Day might not be very unique in terms of songwriting, but its all about the delivery and attitude. I think props to the band for keeping up the energy which to me is inspiring. The production too 👌
@@kevbarker8108 I think they’ve had quite a decent songs since then but American Idiot is still the strongest thing they’ve made since 2000. This album is the first time the production came close to that and there’s some tracks here that were genuinely great. Calling them derivative now is like calling Johnny Rotten obnoxious, they’ve always been like that (aside from Longview).
Ahhh poop, feel like you just dumped on one of my favourite bands 😂 you’re usually so nice! Did Billie Joe Armstrong upset you? Anyway, I love green day, particularly 90’s green day, but they still release some bangers and I’m looking forward to the new album, you should have review Dilemma! Ps. Punk music has always been simple, but hard and fast! 🤙🏻🤙🏻
Greenday are power chords and excellent hooks. Easily learned on a guitar, but that is not a bad thing. Personally haven't been a massive fan of their past few albums but I'm loving the sound of the new stuff so far.
It’s easy to unconsciously write a similar sounding riff/melody, but what surprises me most is that no other band member, producer or manager along the way would make a point to say so!
@@barcoscatalina7067 Yeah perhaps. I wouldn’t understand why either. Finally Justin critiqued something fairly: The production always sounds good, but Green Day are not pushing any boundaries!
It's weird because I couldn't really enjoy the song at first because, instantly, even though I haven't heard it in forever, I could only hear Pink's song. It was distracting, for sure, and I thought it was so weird that nobody in the studio got that impression upon hearing it (I'm just assuming). But, after waiting a bit and listening to it again, through headphones, and picking up on some more layers of the song, I could still note that Pink resemblance, but it sounded better to me. I like the song, especially as it goes into the chorus, starting with "vendetta", but, yeah. Weirddddddddd. Excited for the new album though.
If you hadn't mentioned the pink song thing in the beginning... I still would have thought it was a Pink cover they were doing when the tune kicks off. That sounds just like that song.
I love your honest reaction to this. My opinion on originality is that, there are already sooo many songs. Even for skilled and expierenced musicians it's hard to come up with something new with every song. If you try though.. you might be 50 when your first album comes out..
It would be interesting to see one played over the other like a twin guitar riff. The riff and the Pink riff are not the same melody but the rhythm is the same and I think they’d harmonise nicely.
OMG, the Colors! LMAO!! This is why your channel is awesome!!! I'm not a musician, just a fan of music, but I've never been a fan of Green Day. I've never understood what the hype was about. I just figure it isn't made with me in mind and move on. I'm happy they bring joy to other people.
Sometimes simplicity is better especially when it comes to guitar. It almost sounds like they took something that was pretty good and just put a Green Day flavour on it.
I love how you actually take time to delve deeply into the details of what makes these riffs and harmonies similar enough to be questioned for originality, and actally play all the songs parts in question! Then
So What tempo is also extremely close to the tempo of One Eyed Bastard, off by a few bpm. WOW. The Green Day one seems derivative of the Pink melody. Pink is probably pretty cool about things like this, and would be flattered, just a guess. Have a great day!
The "cool bit" at 10:40 reminded me instantly of Tenacious D - Throw Down, at about 2:15 into their song. Add that to the pile of songs it closely resembles 😅
This isn't really anything new coming from Green Day. On their Insomniac album, the closing track, "Walking Contradiction", while a great song, a large portion of the song sounds very much like "Do It Again" by The Kinks (from their Word of Mouth album). It took me over a decade after first hearing "Walking Contradiction" to realize it lifted elements from The Kinks because I only got into The Kinks later in life. Another Green Day song, "Haushinka", off of the later Nimrod album, also borrowed from "Do It Again", but for a shorter bit.
I looked it up and was annoyed by the pink song that sounds the same as one-eyed bastard and I guess yall never heard "I wish I found some chords in an order that is new" 🤦♂️ a lot of the songs that me and my buddy wrote sounded similar to a lot of bands we love and enjoy and green day has a shitload of songs so what if they used the same chords and put a spin on it and I like this better ❤
Hilarious video. The song seems to be Green Day playing their own song "Holiday" over a combination of The Passenger and So What. I genuinely don't mind things that sound like other things to a certain degree, except in this case it's similar enough that if I wanted to listen to this song then I would just listen to one of those others instead...or more likely: just put on Deep Purple. This shows the downside to longevity: if you don't totally change your sound (e.g. Opeth) or at least develop it significantly, then there's really no point releasing anything new. I don't hate Green Day, and I don't find this song bad, it just doesn't add anything to what they've already done. If they stopped writing after American Idiot (released in 2004) and just toured their old stuff, then honestly I'm not sure if we'd have collectively lost anything.
There's a lot more to a band/artist/song than just what notes are being played. There are an endless amount of songs with the same chord progressions that you couldn't confuse with one another. I think Green Day has always had a recognizable and definitive sound though. Some people love it some people hate it. Not defending this one song as anything groundbreaking but it clearly couldn't be confused with the other songs he compared it to. Green D never needed to be complex musically to get their sound across.
I’m a huge Green Day fan and agree with your points. Is it original or innovative? Not particularly. But is it fun? Kind of. I do think some of the album’s other tracks will provide more flavor in terms of songwriting.
@Justinhawkinsridesagain lovely video again Sire. I have a strange question that I've always wondered about. How do English-speaking people pronounce Røde? Ø is a Norwegian letter soo? Can you please do it in your next video? Pardon my lousy english. Regards from a massive (in all senses 👀) Norwegian fan.
I like old-school Green Day, but this was hilarious. I don't think there's anything wrong with simplicity. Some of the best songs in rock history are easy to play. There's a place for prog and simpler stuff.
Totally agree. The problem with this song and so many like it, is it's so formulaic. The record industry figured it out years ago and this is the generic shit that sells. The predictable, catchy, dumb singalong will never stop because we'll always have more retarded ears listening to music than musicians.
This has nothing to do with simplicity. It is the same riff, in the same key, at a similar Tempo and groove. It is basically the same. But then stealing from Iggy Pop in the chorus as well is just ripping off someone elses music. But enjoy if that is ok for you
I think so what was also one of the Pink tracks that was written by Tim Armstrong of Rancid when they were briefly a thing. It also bares a lot of similar phrasing from Matt Bellamy's solo in Knights of Cydonia from Muse.
Shellbeck wrote that riff. It was the first song (at least in the pop category) he got a writing credit on. Coincidentally learned that just the other day watching This Is Pop on Netflix.
To me, the short/melodic hook thing that is being pointed to as a ripoff of Pink (and hers of Deep Purple) just sounds like a variation on far older folk melody. In the vein of 'Yo-ho-ho' type pirate melodies (or whatever you'd associate that with).
Holy crap! I heard all the similarities you speak of, i am not just picking fault in one of my fav bands. Still love Green Day. It is hard these days to not have similar sounds as there are only 5 basic notes and only so much you can do with them.
There are countless examples of Green Day songs sounding like other popular songs. Uptight sounds like Dreaming by Blondie. Waiting sounds like Downtown by Petula Clark Brain Stew sounds like 26 or 6 to 4 by Chicago Graffitia sounds like I Fought the Law by The Clash Goodnight Adeline sounds like either Closing Time by Semisonic or Good by Better Than Ezra. The line in Strange Days are Here to Say "Ever since Bowie died it hasn't been the same" sounds just like the line in The Gigolo Aunts song Where I Find My Heaven that goes "and the blood flows through my heart and leaves like sand as I share". Not to mention the opening guitar progression rips off their own song Basket Case which also reminds me that American Dream is Killing Me's solo is note for note the same Melody in Basket Case. There are a lot more. I'll have to check my notes.
Thank you Justin! Said the same thing to my wife the first time i heard it, the song is amazing though 😂 It's the pink song + the passenger + Holliday from their own repertoire 😂😂
I love your videos because I have ZERO musical knowledge, I just know what I enjoy! So I find this all very educational. That said, as soon as the intro starts I hear Pink! It feels so familiar. Is this common for Greenday? I remember that years ago John Lawler/Jon Fratelli got a writing credit on Outlaws because it was ✨inspired✨ by Lupe Brown
This is the first time I've come across a Green Day song that sounds like they've ripped off someone else... That's not to say that they haven't done it before, but if they have, they've hid it well. That being said, their albums from "Dookie" (1994) to "American Idiot" (2004) are absolutely brilliant... The upcoming album seems promising.
If anyone gets a credit for it, it won’t be pink, because she wouldn’t have written that song anyway. Not throwing shade at her, that’s just how it works with most of those popstars. They get brought a catalogue of songs that are written by other people, they are just the ones who perform it.
@@Ennui. They have such a huge back catalogue over a long and successful career, I guess there are bound to be some songs that sound a lot like others?
I feel actually that the Green Day riff is superior to my ears over the Pink one. The Pink one sounds like a nursery rhyme music or like something that children yell on the playground, like "na na na na na naaaa" Which sounds annoying and boring. At least the Green Day one doesn't have that element in it. So its less annoying and therefore better
Justin, I discovered years ago, and even did a rough mashup in my DAW, that Basket Case by Greenday, has the same chord sequence as An earlier White Lion song called Cherokee, I changed the key and timestretched guitar solo and sat it on the Greenday track. Not only that, it's the same chords as Canon Rock, the rock adaptation of Pachelbels Canon in C. Kind of reminds me of German Schlager music, which is basically an excercise in deconstructing EVERY other 80s pop track, and 'borrowing' every single hook, passing notes, riff, chord sequence etc. Every schlager song is like an orgy of recognition, familiarity within unoriginality!! I'd cite 3 other examples where I spotted the same riff, it's a short 'Me, Re, Doh' chord rundown, which you can check, 'Whips & Furs' - The Vibrators, 'Another Girl, another Planet' - The Only Ones, and 'Westerland' by Die Ärzte, listen and you'll recognise the bit I mean.
@@paulmallon9292 I don’t care what you think. Fact is fact and Billie has been getting shit for singing in a British accent before Alex touched his first Fanny
Green Day is the reason I got into Rock in the first place and got me playing guitar. Not everything has to be Prog, which is again not everyone’s cup of tea.
@@yoyo_ma7677 I wouldn't call The Darkness a one hit wonder. They have some nice songs. But he didn't need to shit on Green Day like this. He could've done Dilemma or Look ma no brains, which are better songs off the album.
I have loved Green Day for over 20 odd years but their 90s songs were the pinnacle of simplistic songs that were simultaneously original. I think they are writing to be commercial now (and have done for a long time) but those Dookie, Insomniac and Nimrod tracks were raw, unapologetic and conveyed true songwriting emotions, be they angst, love, or hatred. Just listen to Redundant, simple but very clever song. What I’m trying to say is, I like old Green Day more but the new stuff is just fun and shouldn’t be taken seriously. Thanks for reading my essay.
I'm not sure I agree with you on Green Day trying to be commercial. It's not like they need the money! But, your point on the 90's albums is well taken. I'm a massive Green Day fan. I love most of the material they've put out over the years. (Although, FOAM's.......😢) My point is, the albums Kerplunk, Dookie, and Nimrod were relatable and heartfelt. The songs 'spoke' to me. I remember listening to Basket Case whilst I was in hospital having an 'emotional moment' (aka Mental health episode lmao 🤣). It sat so well with me, and got me through a *_really tough_* time. But I love Saviours, so, hey, who am I to whine?! 🤷🏻👍😘♥️♥️💚💚💚💚💚
Bro I grew up with Green Day and I absolutely love all of their early albums. I heard this song, and was honestly really put off by it. Then I sat and listened to the whole album when it came out, and like 80% of the songs felt like they had riffs and chord progressions from other songs, and like you mention that's not necessarily always a bad thing. However, it did make me really upset when I heard it
@@MariaFrancesca I love the when he has a guest, but the ones with him and JMF are my favorites. So, I’m hoping the first one back is just the two of them.
@@sah-win Those are my favorites, too! They have such good friend-chemistry between them that it's a pleasure to get to sit in on these, hilarious bantering all over the place. But then, since they obviously trust and respect each other, that friendship holds for some pretty tough questions, as well, and that gives their podcast an edge that pushes it up a level. They've been developing the production, which is great, but it's how their personalities interact that makes it such a good watch/listen.
The part that is The Passenger by Iggy Pop, is also Holiday by....Green Day. So they are even ripping themselves off! Slightly disappointed that Justin didn't pick up on that!😅
Green day got their name from Billy Joe having a "green day". He named the band after a day he had after smoking pot. Its not that deep of a reason for the name than that.
There’s plenty of darkness AC/DC rip off riffs though… 😅 I mean sometimes it happens, it’s a generic riff that probably sounds like 100s when you hear them.
True, and there's nothing wrong about it. That's art: steal what you like, say what you need. Every song on the planet sounds like something else it's just that you don't know the source material (and also doesn't the songwriter).
Deep Purple’s audio engineer, the late great Nick Blagona, also engineered my solo album, ‘It’s Not an Excuse, It’s a Reason’. The wild stories he shared will forever live rent free in my mind. 🥹🖤
greenday got me into playing full songs on guitar when i was just starting out. i just put on the full album of american idiot on and started playing. got a special place in my heart for those riffs
