Great video. I am with you on your stone choices. My favorite is shaping with Norton course and India fine combo stone ($19). Then finish with a hard Ark then strop 12 passes, and again with hard Ark 12 passes each side then strop 20 passes. I get all my knives shaving sharp I rarely go over 7-8 minutes when sharpening. I do want to explore other finishing stones like coticule, BBW and Jnats.
Very informative video. I tried water stones and absolutely hate all the mess. I've heard people say they hate oil stones because of all the mess. I can't see how a few drops of oil on a sone is messy but I've been using them for over 50 years and have no problems. Going to a job site or even in my garden is much easier than dragging a box on stones and water makes no sense to me. I would go to Diamonds before all that mess but I think I will keep my oil stones.
Very good video. For heavy duty work 120 grit silicon carbide stones are cheaper and faster. I love Norton Crystolon and Carborundum for these jobs. They work well with water, oil or both if you add a bit of soap. My Norton doesn't retain any water so I need either oil or seal it with a plastic bag and adhesive tape. I use burr and microbevel with soft water stones. I clean the burr edge leading then finish edge trailing to refine the apex. With that technique I can shave hair, at least badly shave, on any stone, any grit. It bother me to keep cleaning oil to get fine results so I tend to use it more on coarse stones for better lubrification.
Waterstones can get coarser than 220. I use a 120 shapton kuromaku. I believe there is an 80 grit out there by baryonyx, but dont quote me on that. One last thing I'll add, maybe if you want to give another waterstone a try, get the shapton 120 pro/kuromaku. I think from what you said here, it may fit you well. The only thing faster I've used is a fresh out the box 140 diamond plate (of course that doesn't last though) One more edit. I use the burr method on my waterstones, it works well for me. As for which edge is better. I think they are equal, abrasive is abrasive. I do think for a polished edge waterstones win. But otherwise they are equal.
Have you ever tried water on an oil stone? John Juramitch, from a commercial sharpening service shifted over from using oil to water on oilstones and according to him, he got better edges with better edge retention. He discusses the results of the tests in the book "The Razor Edge Book of Sharpening"
You could order three or four Mora 511 blades for $10 each that would have nearly identical scandi grind carbon steel blades and sharpen each with a different setup and then do cutting comparisons. The steel is a Swedish 1095.
I have an older Norton Soft Arkansas stone glued into a wood tray. Is it most likely water or oil. I’ve used it with Buck Honing oil and it seem as to work about 220 grit
11:00 shapton kuromaku are usable as oilstones. The manufacture says so on the package. So oilstones can go up to 30k grit :) . In Canada the price of Norton has gone up and Shaptons down.
nice! a friend of mine cliff stamp did a video awhile back on using oil on waterstones, and water on oil stones that you might enjoy if you look it up here on youtube
i dont understand, fine india and soft arkansas are the same grit? do they give mirror polish or are they 400 grit? im a beginner im trying to learn i watched dozens of videos ca oil stones change from 400 to 1200 by how much pressure you put in? please help
the fine india i think is rated at 400 grit. soft arkansas being natural stones vary from one stone to the next a bit, so you could have a soft ark that cut around 400, and another one that cut around 800 even when freshly lapped. all stones cut differently with the amount of pressure that you apply.
@@joecalton1449 I have some. Gritomatic.com has veneve resin bonded diamond stones that are a diamond matrix with an ocb organic bond. They also had cbn stones with a metallic bond but they sold out! I would be interested in your thoughts on the stones! The have some large 8x3 or some small 1x6 or 2x4 or something. 60 bucks for 6 grits great deal if u wanna try em!
The layered diamond stones have been available from japan for a while (layered maybe a bad term, but a layer of bonded diamonds). I've never seen them sell in large numbers, but generally use silicon carbide stones for fast work and not diamonds, keep the bevel thin and then deburr lightly and buff instead of using fine stones. The edge is better (more even and a better shape under the scope) and it's stronger as long as the bevel's not too thin.
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