Oiler: LA’s Greatest Bomber, Los Angeles Graffiti | Classic Burners S1 E10

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@izzyrocks8388 2 месяца назад

What’s crazy to all of you California cats, is that this dude was so famous that all the way in the Midwest, me from Milwaukee, Wisconsin we had heard of him without no internet, no social media! It was because of graff mags that were sold in graff shops and we’d see OILER up in his city and all up in the mags. What a legend all the way from Milwaukee 👑👑👑🏆🏆🏆

@robserrano8971 Месяц назад

I traveled across America from 2000-2004. I caught spots all over from Boyle Heights to Novato and Chico in Nor Cal. Bend to Beaverton Oregon. Tacoma, Seattle, Wenatchee to Yakima Washington. Missoula, Rapid City, Sioux Falls, Fargo, Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Chicago, Brookfield, Joliet, Cincinnati, Dayton, Erie, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, Lancaster, Reading, Allentown, Newburgh, Rochester, Manchester, Bangor, Salem, Massachusetts. Norwich, Hoboken, Owings Mills, Towson, Church Falls, Fairfax, Blacksburg, Fayetteville, Orangeburg, Charleston, Columbia, Savanah, Rome, Columbus, Georgia. Jacksonville, Ft. Myers, St. Petersburg, Florida. Auburn, Birmingham, Clarksville, Memphis, Omaha, St. Louis, Tulsa, Ames, Cedar Rapids, Texarkana, Grand Pierre, San Antonio, Austin, Galveston, Waco, Brownsville, Donna, Odessa, El Paso, Texas. Rio Rancho, Santa Fe, Flagstaff, Mesa, Buckeye, Yuma, Las Vegas, San Diego and baq 2 Boyle Heights.

@eddiebriones5596 Месяц назад

Doope

@sunoclockoneday2576 Месяц назад

Can Control was the 💣 ...he was famous in the east too

@gnericnuser 24 дня назад

Big Time , LSD life sux die (one of my faves) still got one somewhere

@CimoneCabron-ht9yo 2 месяца назад

As a kid i remember when we would go from L A to Valley to visit family. I was always excited to see the graffitti on the fwy Oiler was up everywhere...That was my dream instead of wanting to be a doctor or lawyer I wanted to be up like Oiler..😂 ...Never made it even close that guy is a Legend ...Nothing But Respect...

@LXRD-SUPREME- 2 месяца назад

Absolutely

@kaseone6896 Месяц назад

Same here, started tagging myself and now struggling as an adult. Graffiti messed my life up

@LXRD-SUPREME- Месяц назад

@@kaseone6896 Do you mind explaining how it messed you're life up ?

@Asian_Kid Месяц назад

@kaseone6896 You got caught?

@vincecarter7625 Месяц назад

Oiler a L.A. legend I still see him getting up on Marengo and Ceasar Chavez and the 101 fwy mad respect!

@marvinduran2953 2 месяца назад

I seen a gang of oiler tags inside the LA Sherrif buses, at LA county jail, 97, 98, 99....

@burt680 2 месяца назад

I hope long after we're all dead someone can appreciate this. Los Angeles history...❤️

@OVERSEEROFRAP 2 месяца назад

I'm 48 and dude been around since I was a teen we probably the same age lol a true LA legend WISK CHAKA & OILER

@TheTeacherUSC Месяц назад

CAB as well

@josepina1340 Месяц назад

OILER was everywhere!! Nice to see a face behind the name

@artmont9043 2 месяца назад

never knew oiler was from SGV, I thought he was from DTLA. definitely a bombing legend.

@robserrano8971 Месяц назад

Alhambra iz right on da edge of the 626.

@wolfpack8275 Месяц назад

He said Alhambra lol she is right over it’s the gateway to age but not sgv part of Route 66

@Wrath6909 18 дней назад

I’ve seen some young kid like 18 or so writing Oiler in DTLA back in January

@southbound605rider 16 дней назад

I thought he was from Montebello

@Nothing51337 Месяц назад

Oil has a scribe inside the Cecil hotel elevator iykyk

@pablitotorrito9618 2 месяца назад

One of the most prolific writers ,Respect

@EGVentura85 2 месяца назад

I just got chills, man 80s baby 90s kids were the best times traveling with familia from Lynwood to East Los all the tags and bombs and pieces you caught was wonderful times

@LXRD-SUPREME- 2 месяца назад

Awesome

@joshuanickle4031 Месяц назад

I just saw his name still up on the 210 freeway

@Balonishell Месяц назад

We were always pumped as kids to see when IFK destroyed the 10 freeway.

@Zappa-F. 2 месяца назад

That 710 back billboard spot is legendary 😂 Atlantic exit?? Long gone now but was there forever

@memyself7995 2 месяца назад

I remember Oiler, Sonic and 125er getting up everywhere.

@robserrano8971 Месяц назад

SONIC WUZ ALWAYZ CHILL.

@kaseone6896 Месяц назад

Yes 125er!!

@ChowOne1 Месяц назад

125er. That was chrome no?@@kaseone6896

@AnatoleLuthi-ev9gl 2 месяца назад

Oiler was everywhere when I was a teenager

@SoCal90sKid Месяц назад

Oil Definitely one of my biggest influences. Oil, Gin, Duce are a few of many who made me appreciate the love for freeway graff scene. Mad respects to the og’s.

@Nothing51337 Месяц назад

I saw gin once on the venice line 33 he caught a scribe and I did also and he just gave a look and saw his tag and knew I was amongst one of the greats......I'm SHITONEL.A

@JinRock10 9 дней назад

Gin!

@rudedog1500 Месяц назад

Oil still hitting Azusa last month salute. #goat TCD DKS

@theonecalledchan7103 27 дней назад

I remember the biggest disappointment was watching all my good friends make that hood decision over bombing. I remember going to that specific meeting at the park when we split up! Crazy thinking back and reflecting on that day not knowing that stepping to the left was the best decision...

@Thump3zee 19 дней назад

This dude was everywhere even the party line lolz 😂 but really never seen anyone up as much as this dude back in the day!!! Legend writer!!!!! If there was an Olympus for writing certainly take the gold!!!!!

@MrNewtowner13 Месяц назад

I remember this name in the early 90’s particularly 92-95. He got up in my hood VNE off of w.Blvd by commerce center. As far as tagging crews there was a lot of them Had a lot of homies from FBI.

@jasonelliot7039 2 месяца назад

Thank you OiL for being so Real about your self and Tagging culture!!!

@digitalcomplexity 2 месяца назад

Blast from the Past SGV 💪 💯 LA HISTORY from CHAKA to OIL and everyone before, in between and after. Nostalgia!

@ThirstyKnife 19 дней назад

Absolute legend. I loved seeing his new graff on the freeways as a kid and being like “that’s my hero!” 😂🎉😊

@michaelpickarts7683 Месяц назад

Great Content! I found a new place to loiter in these "RU-vid streets"

@Lowridersdoggs Месяц назад

Met him a few times at thisers house. Humble dude 🙏🏼

@brandonbuck3442 Месяц назад

Skill is like the wise village elder, when he talks I listen.

@jdm894g Месяц назад

Mr. UTI

@sachombre 2 месяца назад

When he does the scribing noise lmao””cwaaaaaa cwwaaa” hilarious thats wassup

@Cognitive__Dissonance Месяц назад

I remember running into Oiler and Spun on the 2 on Sunset by the In N Out! Super cool dudes!! Oiler has county on lock with scribes lol. Much love and respect from El Monte!! SGV

@gnericnuser 24 дня назад

He inspired a lot of writers and made his mark on LA graff history. A true OG . Been seeing City CDP and Oiler up in SGV lately hood to see they still at it

@LuckyCoast 2 месяца назад

I remember seeing him on FOX undercover when I was a kid. I got to meet him many years later at a party and he was a very chill guy 🤙

@officialriskone9291 2 месяца назад

Not from LA but not too far away and i used to see this guys name up whenevr i did go down south, back in the early 90s, i was already writing too so i payed attention closely whether it was to bite styles or take pics back to my city an show people what you guys were doing. He heavily influenced my city an generation of writers an artists. Him a Chaka were legends to us.

@jahbrony3650 Месяц назад

i still see Chaka tags in downtown LA, dude dont stop

@650AFTERHOURSOC Месяц назад

Yep I'm from the Bay area so I'm not used to LA.. I'm from San Francisco area this is by far the best graff talk I've seen...🤘🔪

@truth4grace580 Месяц назад

Always driving into LA on the 101 frywy always remember Chaka on thre bridges and over pases in the 80s. Good times in LA. KDAY, and Lakers were on best of LA

@DaveVargas90012 2 месяца назад

Thnx for the SORCERY shout out I didn't catch it the first time around. This interview is straight golden.

@williammendz4444 Месяц назад

Badazz…. Living Legend oiler ….spoted your throw ups

@TRAYBALLUNO Месяц назад

Dude I saw your tag in RedondoBeach and Hermosa Beach in the 90’s amazing !

@jdm894g Месяц назад

SORCE was notorious for the fiberglass scribes. That's my dude. Him and SCENE UTI. Good time writing back in the mid 80s and early 90s.

@TheBlackCrayon77 2 месяца назад

I grew up in Santa Monica, Venice area. I started writing as a teen. I wrote CLASH One...the homie Pete passed the name down. I was off to the races with it. I always saw Oiler tags and bombs...he had landmark tags everywhere. The bus scene was great, it chauffeured our tags from the Westside, to the valley, Eastside, LAX area... I spent lots of time at the Motor Yard. Cool to see a channel about graffiti

@friscostreetstories5403 2 месяца назад

Awesome story. Looking back, its the writers that were killed or died young that I will always remember, and the older we get the list g3ts longer...One had to hit busses and the bus yards in SF in the early days or nothing at all, they were everything. Scribes were an LA phenomenon and noone was scribing in SF until the mid 90s. Oakland cats were already scribing their transit. OILER's explanation of "Repping your name" by being a decent person is spot on. With so many older heads around still painting I would say to all the youngsters start asking them the questions you have now, learn from them now cause we/they ain't gonna live forever. "The GAME" really got going when MsK moved to SF...and I'll always have respect for them for how they moved back then.

@JoseContreras-mv5yz Месяц назад

I remember one distinct landmark he had was on Soto across the street from sears. I think it was an '89 or '92 landmark.

@petervarady9156 2 месяца назад

OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL 🫡 LETS GO !

@chrisswift9197 Месяц назад

I saw u up on the county bus and was stoked to see your work. My graff time got cut short bcuz of prison, but I wrote poize bsk and was had mad respects to all true graff heads

@agonzalez1782 Месяц назад

NELA legend

@ChowOne1 Месяц назад

BSK? Back Street Kids?

@GMCD213 2 месяца назад

King of LA no doubt.

@speculator3gthe238 Месяц назад

This interview is LOOOOONG overdue!! Thank you to everyone that made it happen. 🙏🏽

@caseykollstedt Месяц назад

Props to SNAP UTI!!! STILL HITTING UP!!! I SEE YOU BRO!!! SFV

@rawnervmediainc.2424 Месяц назад

In the 80s wow, i never got to deep, racking paint marker, pastels, over aron brothers, on la brea . John Burroughs, fair fax hgh, good tymez..

@mr.screwloose1217 24 дня назад

That’s absolutely OG Oiler cool af definitely an LA OG he spoke truth bout starting out with different names didn’t we all start like that nobody admits it honestly like he did here!????

@dannydee9919 Месяц назад

This dude is a legend. There is a hit up on the back of a bill board that is still there to this date and has been there since at least 1997.

@TheTeacherUSC Месяц назад

I've seen a few. Where at?

@gabescustoms818 Месяц назад

Dudes a legend seen him up in mad high spots even in the valley

@imnotdone3813 Месяц назад

... over the old Dennys cross from Bargain Foods.

@fredrickmeyers8076 2 месяца назад

Who remembers seeing oiler up on ever curb

@slanguage1 Месяц назад

Orrra, I remember partying with Big OIL back in 92' at a dr.Martin after hours in dtla. We passed him some cranka to get the 3am party started. Those were the daze.

@Dats_dope Месяц назад

What’s cranka

@caseykollstedt Месяц назад

What up SKILL. My PIECEBOOK got hit ups by Dash 2000 UTI before he passed. THX FOR THE GREAT CONTENT BROTHER!!!

@ulises6595 2 месяца назад

Thank you for this one skil I grew up watching oiler LA legend right here 🫡😎

@excon7575 2 месяца назад

i remember playing street fighter 2 against this fu at a donut shop on Las Palmas in Hollywood back in '93 😂 that girl tribe and some other fu from OTR were there too. dropped a mean streak on their way out

@andrewvazquez4683 Месяц назад

DJ Lady Tribe and her fake b👀b$

@blacksheep_e0 2 месяца назад

I wish this interview was longer.

@MrDBcooper77 Месяц назад

🍿👽…Remember watching the video where he was throwing up oiloiloiloiloiloiloil in the 90s….Much respect brother

@stevenotero2627 Месяц назад

This man is a legend in the L.A. area. He killed the city. After Chaka then came Oil. Respect. 😎🎭✌️

@danielk9409 2 месяца назад

Dammmm great interview, Dude is a legend & was that one threw the 90’s as I came up, I unfortunately took more of the tag banger road & because of that me & mines became apart of the system & were forced 2 make some tough decisions, I still love the art, That particular error in LA county was like nothing else NSANE ONE GBKLAN

@omrod2010 2 месяца назад

I met him at El Monte bus station with Phib, Gimek, Teker SKAMob! He still wrote FleesOne…

@gringotorres5719 2 месяца назад

Dude is a legend, Harm, sleeze. Oiler, chaka. TSS. Nhd, ofa,

@pcboy626 2 месяца назад

TAC Kings!!

@kaseone6896 Месяц назад

No Harm Done, Down To Write, On the run!!!

@jahbrony3650 Месяц назад

i remember my big cousin repping OFA Unique1 back in the 90's

@pcboy626 Месяц назад

@@jahbrony3650 Keve OFA was with the TAC KINGS CLICK.

@gnericnuser 24 дня назад

OFA used to have some big rollers off the railroad tracks in Pico / Whittier off Slauson (CR gang neighborhood) it said Out For Action in rollers. The Amtrak used to pass by it

@kalmdown8271 Месяц назад

sacred and oiler killed it in 92 and 93

@EMONEE18 2 месяца назад

Definitely one of the writers I looked up to back in those days. Still remember seeing him catch a scribe on a video game screen at Disneyland around '93...

@650AFTERHOURSOC Месяц назад

Really that's awesome. Definitely all-around great writer .. I'm from the West Coast so some of this is new to me

@josrobcenbla 2 месяца назад

I remember that oiler tag right off the Atlantic exit sign of the 710.

@95bhsg 2 месяца назад

Straight up. The little shed at the bottom too.

@youski9379 2 месяца назад

Big Oil asking Skill questions too! 🙌🏼💣 Dope interaction! 🔥

@TRAYBALLUNO Месяц назад

Them Oil caterpillar throwies were sick as fuck

@lewdabutcha1082 Месяц назад

I remember being at Wayside medium south and seeing a fresh Oiler tag hit up in the wet dirt on the yard. It had just rained and the tag was brand new. I was like where is this guy. Never got to meet him but was so close. LOL … Probably a couple dorms down from mine. Dope interview.

@andyc9997 2 месяца назад

My friends think I'm crazy, I swear in like 05 or 06 I saw that oil throw up here in Fresno. Didnt know who oiler was then but I definitely do now.

@itneverrainsfunk4808 2 месяца назад

Man been waiting for this....he took the game to new heights... literally!! We use to take trips to l.a from Riverside just to see whats up on the frwys back in early to mid 90s.

@ruthless12street 2 месяца назад

Freeways were my playground RTS-

@itneverrainsfunk4808 2 месяца назад

Yes sir... nothing can match that feeling..

@SoCal90sKid Месяц назад

Freeways are forever my playground. From the IE, to Vegas back to LA

@alexshar-pei8375 2 месяца назад

Rest In Peace Tolse STP.

@tecatoborracho8716 Месяц назад

🙏🏻👍🏻

@bryanmendez7411 Месяц назад

Damn I use to see him up my respects to stp they still get up!!! Chota one!

@jumbajambaddada191 25 дней назад

Respect to this dude. And massive respect to Crude OIL - WH - COD - WGE - DTT. RIP.

@armandorodriguez4501 Месяц назад

Big OILER,seems like CHAKA passed him the torch, Boy took it to the next level, became all city within a few months. He killed it from Commerce, Downey,South Gate, Huntington Park,Whittier, East Los, Downtown LA up to north Hollywood,He put COI on the map along with SACRED DCLiNE, and MAN, L.A County Legend not to mention those nasty scribes on the RTDs Respect Señor , SKILLZ keep bringing the top dogs out of the shadows much RESPECT

@eddiebriones5596 Месяц назад

I remember seen him up my junior high school like i just missed'm. And that one spot on Atlantic and whittier under the billboard. Its still there

@michaelvillegas6943 2 месяца назад

I just saw new tags on the 605/10. Fwy junction of oiler. 👌🏼

@gnericnuser 24 дня назад

Yeah it was City CDP and Oiler. Ran in to CDP’s at a few spots way back, they were very active. Most noteably painting on the 605 bridge between Beverly and Whittier blvd in Jimtown like 2 am. After everyone was done it was like almost 4 am and they were still gonna go hit another spot. Dedicated

@westcoastmex629 Месяц назад

I remember when I was 12 thinking dam this dude is everywhere it was 1989 in 1992 i started tagging after deciding i didn’t want to be no part of being in a gang i didn’t like the idea of someone telling me what to do or where not to go . It was fun while it lasted but after a while i got in to music and joined a rock band in 94

@TRAYBALLUNO Месяц назад

He’s talking about Long Beach Cambodian Tiny Raskal Gang Vs ESLongos and EFCC Escape From Cambodian Camp

@DEZDILLENGER-kl1oy Месяц назад

I know hands down he was a TRUE KING OF L.A GRAFFITI!!! He was up all over Broadway in DTLA as well as ALL CITY!! He would have destination spots on the bus, For those who don't know what a destination spot is, It's where it says by the bus windshield but on top of that where the bus says where it would be going he had scribes as well as on the L.A COUNTY bus on every window and if you really want to take it back some time there was a store in Melrose called Beat Non Stop and he would be in the Graff. Mags that they sold too💯💯 I'm a 80's Baby it this guy is a TRUE KING AND LEGEND IN GRAFFITI He was doing it all Tagging, Scribing, And Bombing in that time!!! 💯💯💯💯

@dustingobble2124 Месяц назад

These interviews are A+++ .. amazing stuff

@teamogxla4727 2 дня назад

Oiler was the uppest in my days, always thought I would run into him on the RTD. We all aspired to be up like Oil.

@erv_fedora 2 месяца назад

Oil and sleeze battle is unmatched.

@Toniod252 Месяц назад

Real tagger shit... "Always pick letters w/ S & K.. Skizs and skaz".. Jex and Vox were always firme names

@gnericnuser 24 дня назад

Vox is an OG he been around long mostly legal spots now, used to go to school with Jex years ago traded him some old pics I had when Ayer hit that CHP mural that used to be off the 101 and Alameda

@rockybulldogs Месяц назад

He's the king of Los Angeles because he never snitched like Ramos. Else I'd give it to Ramos.

@OH.A.M. Месяц назад

The pictures shed light of the past of whom we remember and talks about what it was like to be the one who is present. Respect!

@serchizm Месяц назад

On the 101 freeway heading north into downtown after you pass the 6th street bridge, on the left, there was this building with a brick facade and a staircase. Well at an angle following the stairs upwards were two SACRED OILER throwies and these throwies remained there FOREVER. I remember seeing them as a kid on the freeway damn up until the mid 2000s when I was older driving the freeways my damn self. OG landmarks. Then, one day, don’t remember when: poof they were gone! I remember being heartbroken lol. Those throwies ran for probably 15-20 years. Wish I could find a flick.

@gnericnuser 24 дня назад

Those ran forever and USE and OZiE also caught a spot next to them it was on the fire escape

@serchizm 24 дня назад

@@gnericnuser yup I always remember as a kid thinking “Sacred” had a double meaning as in his tag, and the throw was sacred never buffed lol

@larcee6875 2 месяца назад

Great interview SkiLL glad he mentioned the SGV crews 🔥🔥🔥🔥

@gambogillie108 2 месяца назад

Man I remember driving down the 110 freeway seeing oiler. Always wondered who he was. Sick interview

@luckap79 Месяц назад

Straight LOS Angeles Legend

@armandogutierrez5212 Месяц назад

Same here went with graffiti Gross NBK.saludos I’ll be 50 in august good old days. Sometimes I want to go tagging 😂

@RewskOnTV 2 месяца назад

Interesting, never knew Oil was just a town over from me, I ran with ATL KRH TAC and landed in SKA 1985-2024

@pcboy626 2 месяца назад

TAG ALL CITY KINGS!!

@jasonredondo3098 Месяц назад

@@pcboy626 @rewskonTV - just out of curiosity, how did you connect with TAC?

@jdm894g Месяц назад

What you write? I'm RAZEONE TAC FLY RARE(RIP) ROM REGAL LASER SAX TNT KEW I'm still holding down the crew since 87

@pcboy626 Месяц назад

@@jdm894g BINE TAC KING 🤴

@pcboy626 Месяц назад

@@jdm894g BINE TAC

@ozerhar0410 24 дня назад

This dude was my favorite righter growing up

@r8gt232 21 день назад

I remember running into Oiler and Sacred on line 76 via Valley Blvd back in 1992. #DKC #RTDM

@r33lism 23 дня назад

The duke of earl' my introduction to Oil was the LA county intake 89. he crawled up above the entrance doors to where inmates are processed and stamped some Oiler tags. all the while your handcuffed being led into the county. #classic

@stephenfrancis303 2 месяца назад

Dtd , d2d in wilmington ,san pedro harbor city etc, back in the day early 90s and bod

@robserrano8971 Месяц назад

Catching grills on da RTDs. Rough Tough and Dangerous. 254, 18, 66, 251, 70, 76, 260, 68, 33, 94, 96, 78, 79, 62, 210, 108, so many lines. How about jacking da driver's jackets?

@rz450 Месяц назад

Early 90s Recall taking all thee above up & down downtown LA East LA Boyle Heights 😂 good memories..

@robserrano8971 24 дня назад

@@rz450 yup, dat Eastside Life.

@robserrano8971 24 дня назад

@rz450 Eventually, we learned how 2 get 2 Sylmar, Northridge, Topanga Mall, Van Nuys, Hollywood, Santa Monica, Venice, San Pedro, Long Beach and everywhere in between too.

@artbarraza3168 Месяц назад

Graffiti for life....

@JayTee_213 2 месяца назад

Salutes to OILER! Been waiting on this long overdue interview. #Bringthe90sback

@Helloyes659 2 месяца назад

Wass up wit the football teams in the 70s and 80s becoming gangs everywhere

@isaacvasquez5414 2 месяца назад

Him Mosco and Chaka were the ones I remember most from the late 80's early 90's

@TheFourNineThree 2 месяца назад

Tolse, Bruno , and Snap were just as fukkin Notorious in the 80's and 90's

@emiliano4091 2 месяца назад

That’s because Chaka oil Mosco had perfect print that you could see a mile away. Loved them tags

@mike52296 Месяц назад

Is Mosco still busted?

@Dats_dope Месяц назад

@@mike52296since when

@emiliano4091 Месяц назад

@@mike52296 yeah he got life. He ain’t never getting out. I heard he’s a camarada ,,

@MrZACATECANO100 2 месяца назад

OILER,SPAIR,DISM,GRAY, CHAKA,SKITTLES. I USED TO BE FROM (AICREW)

@Dats_dope Месяц назад

I see that crew up still same one ??

@MrZACATECANO100 Месяц назад

@@Dats_dope Not sure 🤔

@andrewhernandez1448 2 месяца назад

Amazing Interview. Skill did an amazing job conducting this interview. Congrats to the entire team at Classic Burners.

@Yazzie-ch3rv 2 месяца назад

To bad they can't to do one on "Tolse"

@naturalnatemarvel9594 2 месяца назад

He had the old brick building off the 10&110 down town intersection bombed with His Name for the Longest Years

@morescode1 Месяц назад

Shout out to SNAP 1 UTI

@caseykollstedt Месяц назад

Speaking about the tag banging, I went to Canoga Park High school and one of the tagging crews was CYS. Hope was the head dude. CYS eventually turned into a tag banging crew. There's a guy that writes HOPES today. Don't know if it's the same guy as HOPE from CYS. Hope and his older brother were the homie...