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OK, Dragon Ball? Gohan's BORING Now! 

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Dive into the world of Dragon Ball as we take a deep dive into the character of Gohan, exploring his potential as a main character in contrast to Akira Toriyama's usual character preference. We dissect his unique traits, his moralistic nature, and his reluctance to fight compared to Goku's whimsical love for combat. We discuss insights from the 2023 movie 'Superhero' that further highlight Gohan's character flaws and the possible consequences on his relationships. Could these recent developments indicate a shift in the Dragon Ball storyline and character focus? Tune in to find out and join the speculation about the future of this beloved series.
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@MasakoX
@MasakoX Год назад
Do you reckon that Gohan has developed and become a better character for the future?
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Год назад
Yep! He could really embody the "With Great Power, comes Great responsibility" motto like in the timelines where Peter has a family
@MrIHaveASword
@MrIHaveASword Год назад
He very much could, but I'm pessimistic and waiting for the cycle to repeat.
@dmitribrutus5543
@dmitribrutus5543 Год назад
It depends…
@molassesman4066
@molassesman4066 Год назад
No Hes stuck in a infinite loop
@xavierhall185
@xavierhall185 Год назад
I feel this is long overdue. Even then, I personally didn’t find his arc in the Super Hero all that fulfilling.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 Год назад
Flawless characters are boring because there's nothing that interests the audience if they do everything Perfectly.
@StevenJones851
@StevenJones851 Год назад
i agree there boring Characters that way
@VillainousToaster
@VillainousToaster Год назад
A character without flaws isn't truly a character in my opinion.
@MasakoX
@MasakoX Год назад
Indeed. Everybody has quirks.
@Fimbulvetr
@Fimbulvetr Год назад
The name for a flawless unintentionally bad character is Mary Sue
@letsgobrandon1906
@letsgobrandon1906 Год назад
I mean characters can’t stay flawed forever a lot of these characters have completed arcs already. Dragon ball super is bonus content for a manga that’s already finished. Cant forget that.
@lightgivemepower6425
@lightgivemepower6425 Год назад
​@@letsgobrandon1906that doesn't automatically make it good though
@thedead073
@thedead073 Год назад
​@@Fimbulvetrnot necessarily
@Sinsanities
@Sinsanities Год назад
We didn't want the character to be like us, we want the character to be like the ideal version of us.
@StevenJones851
@StevenJones851 Год назад
This is very much true
@randallellison6421
@randallellison6421 Год назад
Great discussion Masako! I don't mind Gohan having a flaw or two, it makes him more relatable, that he's not perfect! Honestly, I hope Toriyama and Toyotaro do that with the other characters, especially the next gen characters (Trunks, Goten, Pan, Bulla, Uub, etc.)
@jaguarnero
@jaguarnero Год назад
Personally I don’t understand why people think that *any* character couldn’t be written as a main character. All it takes is a good writer. What kinds of motivations does each character have? What are their personal struggles? What is their outlook? What do they enjoy? What do they not enjoy? What is important to them and what is not important to them. I absolutely do not think the question is *if* Gohan could be the main character, because he certainly could be, literally any character could be. It’s not the character. It’s the writing. And even more than the writing, it’s the formula that’s the real culprit at the base issues with the series as it stands today. As I see it, Dragon Ball is stuck between two formulas. It’s either that there is some kind of universe-level BS villain that wants to destroy everything or take over everything (the same motivations for pretty much every villain ever, at this point)… or a tournament. That’s it.
@Lord_Of_Night
@Lord_Of_Night 10 месяцев назад
Fully agree with this. You can hypothetically write anything well. Just need to work at it.
@jaguarnero
@jaguarnero 10 месяцев назад
@@Lord_Of_Night exactly, thank you. All it takes is for someone to make the right decisions for the character in a story, and it could be compelling. It’s all in the talent behind the IP that matters most, in my opinion. Like one thing I think people need to stop thinking is the idea that Dragon Ball can’t exist without Goku. As much as I love the character and knowing how impactful he was to the series, the future could (and eventually should) continue without him. Or at the very least there should be spin-offs. Because the series is called “Dragon Ball,” not “Goku,” and it’s time to see the Dragon Ball world in new perspectives, as it would keep it fresh for a lot longer.
@petersimpson4648
@petersimpson4648 Год назад
It's kind of Piccolo's fault that Gohan became an escapist. After all, he spent years teaching Gohan how to DODGE!
@SabeNo-rh7mb
@SabeNo-rh7mb Год назад
*Nooooooo!* 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@byronrush9802
@byronrush9802 Год назад
More like beating his ass teaching him how to survive in different environments
@jamcalx
@jamcalx Год назад
So, Gohan was too conversational and would have changed dragon ball to be too mainstream? Now I'm imagining Hipster Toriyama. Honestly, Gohan feels like what should have happened for spider-man years ago if not for ONE MORE DAY. If anything, Gohan has continuously relatable.
@windghost2
@windghost2 Год назад
And I love that a lot.
@megamattzx
@megamattzx Год назад
If you want my honest opinion, I'm under the strong belief that Dragon Ball should go the multiple protagonists route. You know they're not going to completely get rid of certain characters, so it would make sense to give us more instances where everyone gets time to shine. I pretty much accepted the fact that they're never going to truly replace Goku and Vegeta so instead I think they should go down this route that way one, people don't get tired of certain characters, 2, I guess other characters time to shine, and three it gives the fandom more to appreciate from the franchise. Dragon Ball super superhero being a movie where they barely focus on Goku and Vegeta was a huge risk and though not as successful as Broly, it still got results. And it could make Dragon Ball even more appealing to multiple audiences going forward.
@byronrush9802
@byronrush9802 Год назад
Thank you that always did piss me off and maybe they'll bring my boys Tien and Yamcha back you know let the humans get some power ups instead of just the aliens and half aliens Androids magical beings
@fatpurp4041
@fatpurp4041 Год назад
I would like the official manga to do something like what Kakumei is doing. Basically splitting our cast up to train in their own unique way and giving everyone equal amount of importance
@SniperKing-O
@SniperKing-O Год назад
That would be really nice! It would be nice to see a rotating spin off series of revolving around Tien/Chaotzu, Yamcha and Krillin/18. :D
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 Год назад
Toriyama: *screws Gohan over* MasakoX: "It's a free real estate."
@DanielLopes-dh2hv
@DanielLopes-dh2hv Год назад
I only now realized that gohan has the same character development every time. During the cell saga e learned that he had to fight to protect those he loved. During the buu saga he leaned that he couldn't slack off and had to fight to protect the ones he loved. After resurrection F he learned he had to keep fighting to be able to protect the ones he loved. And during super hero he learned he cant stop training and has to fight to protect the ones he loves
@agerard6297
@agerard6297 Год назад
I don’t think he really made such a resolution in the Buu Arc, aside from wishing to catch up with Goku and Vejita for the immediate threat. In RoF he does make that resolution and he sticks to it for the next 17 or si months to the US Arc where he was prepared enough.
@bluichimirai
@bluichimirai Год назад
@@agerard6297the res f statement you made would’ve been right (and trust me I wish it was) if gohan didn’t literally state after his training before TOP that he hadn’t trained in a while. One throwaway line ruins that theory, despite me wanting to believe it
@agerard6297
@agerard6297 Год назад
@@bluichimirai where did he say that?
@bluichimirai
@bluichimirai Год назад
@@agerard6297 I’m pretty sure it was in the anime before or after his training with piccolo
@bluichimirai
@bluichimirai Год назад
@@agerard6297 correct me if I am wrong
@dreadrath
@dreadrath Год назад
Gohan "I study bugs for a living." Cell "Its nice that I left a lasting impression on that boy, but this wasn't exactly what I had in mind." Gohan "Now hold still, Mr. Bug." Cell "W-what are you ddoing with that giant jar?.... No-no-no-NO!"
@SabeNo-rh7mb
@SabeNo-rh7mb Год назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@windghost2
@windghost2 Год назад
A giant jar Omg 😂
@seansilv25
@seansilv25 Год назад
OH GOD, NOT THE JAR!
@saucevc8353
@saucevc8353 Год назад
Cell’s hell is being stuck in one of those bug display cases while Gohan drops by to write papers about him.
@IsaiahSenku
@IsaiahSenku Год назад
Ayooo
@BaggyTheBloke
@BaggyTheBloke Год назад
While I love Beast's design, one thing I wish Super Hero did was have the Gammas' fighting style remind Gohan of how he actually had fun fighting as Saiyaman, and being in the suit hypes him up to Goku and Vegeta's level. Ultimate Gohan was meant to be him not needing to transform anymore, so why not reincorporate that, instead of needing his hair a different colour and an aura surronding him, all Gohan needs to fight at his max is put on a costume and do some poses
@Thomasfan65
@Thomasfan65 9 месяцев назад
Beast is ssj 2 but white and spiker
@BestgirlJordanfish
@BestgirlJordanfish Год назад
Just let Gohan be a dorky brainy dad. If he’a going to contribute narratively I’d enjoy him more if he was a technician or supporter like Bulma or Weis.
@CountDVB
@CountDVB Год назад
Beyond culture, it’s also generational gap. Dragonball is almost 40 years old. That is alot to consider. Regarding Gohan, I think more Toriyama wasn’t sure what to do with him that wasn’t retreading what Goku went through.
@john98765333
@john98765333 Год назад
Man, I would just like to see more Tien, Yamcha, Launch, Kind of things, something with the more forgotten, left out characters.
@nerdius8204
@nerdius8204 Год назад
yamcha was actually extremely competent until the 22 budokai tenkaichi tournament. guess toriyama didnt really know what to do with the character basically used him as a red shirt character,to show how powerful the antagonist of the respective arc is. It was especially evident in the fight against tien where his opponent broke his leg. In the 23 Budokai tenkaichi he was humiliated by a Kami in disguise.
@TheRealSpiderMew
@TheRealSpiderMew Год назад
YES! The harder we try to deny parts of ourselves, the more we tend to rubberband when we relapse. Its realistic that way. You are very keen in that point. Its flaw I very much relate too. I loved all the points you made in this video.
@S31KO.
@S31KO. Год назад
This is a very elaborate excuse for lazy writing.
@dojima24
@dojima24 Год назад
DragonBall Super: Vegeta. And it could be a movie about him dealing with his Saiyan pride while being a father and him and Trunks could have a space adventure.
@pockystyx4087
@pockystyx4087 Год назад
Yeah; I'm still enjoying Gohan like this, instead of just being either another Goku-lite. Feels like he's become his own man now; even if he's pretty much the biggest nerd in DB. Plus; I'd argue Gohan has a lot more going for him than, say, his little brother. Goten has and remains boring.
@letsgobrandon1906
@letsgobrandon1906 Год назад
This is randomly one of the best dragon ball character analysis vids I’ve ever watched. And I’ve been in this community since Qaaman and Blackenfist ran the show. Very interesting on how being the Son of Goku and the weight of those expectations shaping out the type of fighter gohan is. Also no doubt a hint of seriousness from training with piccolo at age 5
@electronauticon9617
@electronauticon9617 Год назад
I feel like exploring the idea of Gohan mentoring Broly could provide an interesting story or even a what if that could help Gohan's character
@kr1spness
@kr1spness Год назад
DB at this point should be about family. Goku and Vegeta have a goal that's really out there but only a matter of time, Gohan won life, and I'm ready to see Trunks and Goten get some time to shine for character arcs. The rest of the characters have settled and should be there for slice of life and big moments, but they can no longer push the plot. Let Gohan be a dad in some comedy episodes and let Trunks get the story he deserves. Gohan's only flaw is that a fully self actualized person needs to constantly be out through the ringer so a writer can satisfy insatiable fans.
@jaguarnero
@jaguarnero Год назад
I like that idea. I think also keeping the series a little more grounded with “slice of life” content and appropriately adding in the action and threats to each individual character would widen the scope of the series greatly. Not every conflict needs to be world-ending, and I think from the get-go, Super starting out with power leveled of literal gods was a mistake. Yeah, they’ve always been around, but the power scaling does not need to be so unnecessarily high, the scales don’t need to be so dramatic, either. The characters need to be relatable to be likable, in my opinion, and - again, my opinion, it really feels like Goku is hardly a character anymore at this point. He’s just so far gone in relatability, for me to like him as he is now.
@CheeseLoverRed
@CheeseLoverRed Год назад
I enjoy Gohan. He's not the protagonist of the entire series. That is what Goku and Vegeta are. However, as one of the major stars, Gohan still shines. Every time he fails he realizes what he's doing wrong and tries to work through it. From Childhood to Adulthood he's had his own set of trials.
@jrcsmash2150
@jrcsmash2150 Год назад
What is it with the Son family and not having a balanced life style? You’ve got Goku who doesn’t work (even though he’s a farmer) and is constantly training, which isn’t bad on it’s own, but that’s no excuse to ignore his responsibilities as a husband father. Then there’s Gohan who works and cares for his family, which is good, yet it’s no excuse to slack off in training, knowing that Frieza is still alive and eventually coming back to earth. The only one who’s somewhat got it all sorted out is Goten.
@dnmstarsi
@dnmstarsi Год назад
They're Insane... From Earth.
@stefanradebach2889
@stefanradebach2889 Год назад
@@dnmstarsi I think i lost my touch at genocide.
@ultimamage3
@ultimamage3 Год назад
Gohan doesn't even care about his family all that much. He doesn't pick up Pan from school and relies on Piccolo to do it while he studies ants, and the entire point of Super Hero was that Pan had to fake being in danger to motivate him. And then fans have the nerve to wonder why fan stories roll with the "someone needs to be in danger for Gohan to power up". That's literally the ONLY reason he powers up.
@stefanradebach2889
@stefanradebach2889 Год назад
@@ultimamage3 Like father like son. Or better yet, like father like Son Gohan.
@cryotheamayzo5445
@cryotheamayzo5445 Год назад
I like the idea that Goku skews too much towards his training and Gohan too much towards his personal/work life while Goten manages to strike a solid balance between the two, training and fighting for fun while actively socialising and getting an education. The only way Goten is lacking right now is maturing a bit so he takes his life a little more seriously.
@mattc2626
@mattc2626 Год назад
Great video. I’ve never looked at Gohan through a cultural lens. He definitely fits a more traditional Western view of a hero and I always assumed that’s what everybody wanted.
@brandonjones5879
@brandonjones5879 Год назад
Honestly, this video makes it feel like Goten would be the better choice. I mean he has the shadow of his super powerful brother and his legendary father. But Goten doesn’t really stand out. Not to mention he definitely the underdog in the Son family, so rooting for him wouldn’t be hard. It also would help break up his joined-at-the-hip state with Trunks. Kind of like a reverse of what they attempted with GT.
@johnquach8821
@johnquach8821 Год назад
Goten's problem is that he is an even more wasted character in terms of potential. His mental state is completely wrong for being a skilled fighter.
@brandonjones5879
@brandonjones5879 Год назад
@@johnquach8821 all the more reason to reform. If anything he likes to fight unlike his brother. We saw when properly motivated he can take his training very seriously. Honestly the story of him going from kind of a joke to a legitimate fighter, would be great
@byronrush9802
@byronrush9802 Год назад
​@@brandonjones5879agreed
@DRGN-TYPE
@DRGN-TYPE Год назад
I prefer Gohan this way. If Gohan wss training like a lot of fans wish, he'd just be Goku with extra steps.
@ChaddyFantome
@ChaddyFantome Год назад
THIS. Let my Gohan-kun be a dork, lol.
@marcelvastolorde652
@marcelvastolorde652 Год назад
@@ChaddyFantome but then stop giving him asspull power ups out of nowhere when he's almost never training
@reinaldomartinez13
@reinaldomartinez13 Год назад
​@@ChaddyFantomenah he should've been a Chad badass
@Yoshiinite
@Yoshiinite Год назад
What do people want then??? I've seen people complain and say Gohan shouldn't train, but then that means Gohan is never gonna do anything in the series, and people complain again that he's never on screen doing anything, so he has to get asspull power ups, if he stays at home working, means we never see him So yeah i rather see him on screen kicking ass, he's not a real person to care about his home life lol
@DRGN-TYPE
@DRGN-TYPE Год назад
Gohan is supposed to be a reluctant hero. Meaning, he only fights when forced to. He is a geek by nature and that's fine. The problem is, a lot of fans self-insert with Gohan and change his fundamental charistics.
@DocWolph
@DocWolph Год назад
Gohan really needed a Ken to his Ryu. A Friend and/or rival that Gohan would have to relate to and to a degree, especially if they were friends, rely on to give him purpose. Much as Ryu looked the Ken to keep him training, until the Dark Hadou Saga derailed that. Otherwise Gohan was just the first of the "Extra Saiyans", they did not need to exist and their only contributing attribute is they were Saiyans. Gohan's "Ken" does not even have to be, probably shouldn't be, Saiyan or Human as, on the roster of characters, Gohan is surprisingly the only character HIS AGE, Piccolo and Videl notwithstanding. Someone Gohan just ends up having to deal with and strangely looking forward to their next meeting with ever increasing fervor. A fighter who complements Gohan in the same ways Ken complements Ryu. While the notion that this might be someone who adds a corner to a very fan-fictiony "Gohan+Videl+'One' love triangle", someething I want to ruin like a real Spider-Man Fan wanted "One More Day", someone who can only really just a friend and/or rival is the best way to go.
@SerothTalon
@SerothTalon Год назад
This whole movie was so good until the last 10 minutes. It really should have been Ultimate Saiyaman at the end, not an asspull new form. You know, the Dragonball Super Hero?
@agerard6297
@agerard6297 Год назад
Exactly, as I noted in TV tropes, why make a SH film and not include the GSM? Then again it does fit with my fan canon that after playing a factor in four universal genocides, maybe Gohan thought being the Warrior of Justice a bit hypocritical?
@SerothTalon
@SerothTalon Год назад
@agerard6297 it's implied that he outgrew it a bit. But honestly, I don't think that would matter because it would make Pan happy to see her dad was a Super Hero.
@ceruleanwalker1069
@ceruleanwalker1069 Год назад
I've always had a dislike for Gohan, mostly because of his fans. But I have to admit, I like that he has more flaws now. Super Hero was the first time I found myself rooting for him.
@poochyenajones1362
@poochyenajones1362 Год назад
I definitely prefer protagonists that a more or less serious. I love when protagonist is goofing around, but in a truly tense situation I usually want them to act appropriately.
@SpiritKitten
@SpiritKitten Год назад
I'm suddenly reminded of DBZA, Gohan: Trunks,what am i like in the future? Trunks: Well, I'd say you're a lot like your dad. Gohan: in what regard... 😅❤
@windghost2
@windghost2 Год назад
😂
@Eric-gp3hi
@Eric-gp3hi Год назад
I agree Gohan flaws that are a detriment to his character are that he’s to passive,cockiness,lack of responsibility and can be to focused on his research on insects so much that he neglects his family. I don’t think Gohan is fit to be the new main character. I would rather see Goten or Pan be the new main character of Dragonball. Goten is adventurous, carefree, playful and action oriented and he really takes after Goku. Pan really takes after Goku and loves fighting and martial arts. I would like to see Dragonball Super take the Dragonball Online route with Gohan with him becoming the professor of martial arts and ki and writing his book on Ki control Groundbreaking Science which would unleash a martial arts revolution on Earth.That would be a great way to end Gohan’s character arc.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Год назад
Love these analizys so much masako! Thank you for this!😊😊😊🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@aurorasdrawingcorner
@aurorasdrawingcorner Год назад
Imo a character without flaws is bad but Gohan has flaws THAT make him bad. He ignores threats, can't get himself to stay focused, isn't very smart to be honest and is just a total moron. His entire character from Saiyan to Cell Saga was thrown into the bin and now he is the "smart pacifist". He is not though. He is simply ignorant and uninteresting. And that he repeats his flaws over and over again might make him more realistic but just not likeable. Praising his flaws like that isn't good, at least that's how I see it. And I am very much sure that Toriyama didn't intend these flaws. In the Buu saga, Gohan already acted very immature in many situations but he was still somewhat on track. Now he is just immature with the bad taste of not doing anything. In the previous sagas he learned to be more calculating, smart and foresighted. All of that is gone now. Additional salt in the wound is that he gets power ups for nothing. The beast transformation is just bad. It comes out of nowhere and is just a copy of the SSJ2 transformation, even if it's a tiny bit more logical as it is more on a personal route. Piccolo's form is logical, it is tied to Namekian lore while beast is the ass pull of ass pulls. And that he does nothing, barely trains but gets everything cause he has "potential" is another huge flaw, especially combined with that flawed character of him just ignoring threats. Why would someone who is that stubborn be rewarded with a new form?
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 Год назад
10:19 Piccolo finally made a new house where he and his bros Kami and Nail hang around.
@DanielLopes-dh2hv
@DanielLopes-dh2hv Год назад
3:44 Yeah gohan wants to be done with it...except with Cell which caused Goku's death...and with buu which caused his brother and picolo to get absorved
@Sailor11Sedna
@Sailor11Sedna Год назад
Fine, but I think Trunks or Goten could be that type.
@GFCOLCQuote
@GFCOLCQuote Год назад
I feel like Gohan would love Pokemon, because it was made to feel like bug catching.
@dnmstarsi
@dnmstarsi Год назад
Well, I mean in one universe, he became Professor Oak. Also one of Ash's rivals in the Japanese dub. Dumb Voice actor jokes FYI
@emperortoho
@emperortoho Год назад
@@dnmstarsi which rival?
@dnmstarsi
@dnmstarsi Год назад
@@emperortoho Morrison from Advanced Generation who was voiced by Sean Schemmel in the English Dub but was voiced by Masako Nozawa in the Japanese dub. If you don't know or remember who that is, I don't blame ya given how late he was introduced. LOL
@emperortoho
@emperortoho Год назад
@@dnmstarsi huh, exact same japanese va lmao, and goku’s dub actor as well fun fact sean schemmel also voices dracovish
@dnmstarsi
@dnmstarsi Год назад
@@emperortoho Yep! Heck, Sean also voiced Team Leaders Archie and Cyrus, Gym Leaders Juan and Clay and of course Lucario in both the 8th movie and in Smash Bros (minus Brawl).
@PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay
@PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay Год назад
As Abridged Gohan would say "In what regard"
@jnascimento7023
@jnascimento7023 Год назад
I think that Gohan and piccolo receiving those enormous power ups like gohan had in the buu saga while the other z fighters are forgotten mainly humans is the biggest issue the fandom appears to have with gohan new stupidy hair do
@byronrush9802
@byronrush9802 Год назад
Exactly what about Tien who arguably is stronger than krillin hasn't had stream time since the cell saga
@jnascimento7023
@jnascimento7023 Год назад
The formula being if you are not the best friend of or even related to in some way to goku or main character You are forgotten Althou trunks and goten were literally side lined
@DrJareld
@DrJareld Год назад
@@jnascimento7023 gohans and piccolos forms are being hated on because they suck. Not because they’re side characters
@delamz
@delamz Год назад
Hey masako if you see this can you please make a digimon and dragon ball what if i have looked all over and nothing i'm pretty sure you would be the first youtuber ever to do this. so pls do it.
@MrIHaveASword
@MrIHaveASword Год назад
Oh hey, protag gohan for the fifth time?
@MasakoX
@MasakoX Год назад
Here's hoping it sticks this time.
@opaopa6272
@opaopa6272 Год назад
Just have Goten be the main character. Go for the out of left field option
@kurokishizx
@kurokishizx Год назад
they won't go that route for a long ass time, they finna milk goku for few more decades
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 Год назад
Yeah because Gohan is SUCH a great character that people love, right?
@opaopa6272
@opaopa6272 Год назад
@@matti.8465 I'm assuming you mean Goten, but people tend to like Goten yeah
@emperortoho
@emperortoho Год назад
i mean tbh super hero miniarc showed it is possible for goten to be a character, i’m all for leaving goku and vegeta in the dust if we can just get someone else, cuz i could list 10 characters i think would be more interesting than goku and vegeta is also in the spotlight a bit too much
@DrJareld
@DrJareld Год назад
@@emperortoho Gohan better not be in that list, Adult Gohan is a terribly written character thats an embarrassment to Dragon Ball
@Gamerlord17
@Gamerlord17 Год назад
Gohan as he is now would just be boring to watch. He doesn't want to fight but wants to protect his family? Can't have it both ways bro.
@agerard6297
@agerard6297 Год назад
To be sure, post-RoF he has kept up with the protecting the family thing. Getting Shenlong to cure Pan of a fever. Saving Pan and the city (and maybe the world) from an alien parasite known for world-wrecking, and doing his part in saving his family (and the universe) from getting erased.
@CountDVB
@CountDVB Год назад
It’s more that he doesn’t have the same drive for fighting like Goku or Vegeta, viewing it as a chore. And given what he grew with, it makes sense. He never got the sense of growth or self-gratification that Goku got because it was always a fight to survive for Gohan. That’s probably left quite an impact on him and it’s like also why Chichi isn’t a fan of fighting as well. Had Gohan’s formative experience with fighting been with say Master Roshi, he’d likely view fighting with a more positive view.
@demo0831
@demo0831 Год назад
I think toriyama atleast in the time of Z flat out couldnt write gohan as the MC. Ignoring goku even the supporting cast has this inconsistantcy, Piccollo, and Tien for example beginning of android arc, everyone wants the challenge of a true fight. second set of androids about to be released, everyones incredibley active in dealing with the threat and preventing there awakening. And acting like Vegeta is insane for letting them wake up. Its done so plot can happen. At this point however the story has kind of settled on fixed points. Gokus now just one character trait, Vegetas a genuine character but kinda too grumpy?, Gohan and piccollo or cool ngl, but now the story atleast makes problems happen around them rather than because their dumb.
@jaguarnero
@jaguarnero Год назад
I agree. Personally I think the reason that Gohan didn’t work for Toriyama was because of the lack of any supervisors/editors in the Buu arc. Toriyama had free reign, and the Buu arc is the messiest part of Z. It’s mainly just a theory, but his editors in my opinion really helped guide Toriyama throughout the rest of the original run.
@yep1486
@yep1486 Год назад
the problem is when he reach/surpass the level of people trained by GODS simply cuz he has "potential"
@AtomicComms
@AtomicComms Год назад
I've gone through the same character arch so many times. Where's my beast form? 😢
@dnmstarsi
@dnmstarsi Год назад
Idk but be like Piccolo and wish for your power to be fully awakened. It might require better Dragon Balls but still.
@SinHurr
@SinHurr Год назад
At the gym under a fat pile of weights.
@kaidorade1317
@kaidorade1317 Год назад
Gohan if you don’t do your part to protect the world and your family there will be no more conferences to attend. Think about that!
@jozillaarevalo1747
@jozillaarevalo1747 Год назад
I used to hate the idea of him becoming a main character but now I think I'd only hate it if he's the only main character because super so far has been set on Goku and Vegeta and rn their in the middle of their paths to their goal so I'd see it as an awful move to just point to Gohan. (Also watch the review on another guy's channel where he details in hilarious fashion how hard Gohan got his ass whopped by Buutenks like it wasn't even close. And I like how they pointed that out in super)
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 Год назад
What's with the exaggerated titles that don't really reflect the contents of the video when you watch it? I feel it's going to attract thee wrong crowd
@FirstLast-wk3kc
@FirstLast-wk3kc 9 месяцев назад
Since his early childhood basically every real fight ended in death of either his relatives or friends. I'm not surprised with him in buu saga, it does seem like he has trauma with fighting, every time being reminded of so muuuuuuch. He really does hate fighting after all. And his sayaman? His unconcious way to quiet down the guilt and pain of this trauma. Think about it, humans are representing the same level of threat to him as ants to us. This is still as far from fighting as he can force himself out of it, despite the minimal pressure. This makes him very relatable and interesting. Although, this plot line does need more attention than just slapping him again and again. And for the god's sake take him to psychologist already! Mah boy needs help. And hugs. I would hug him soooo muuch. It's started for him way earlier than dor Goku, and way darker.
@nintendops
@nintendops Год назад
Super Gohan is more like Jackie Chan in Jackie Chan adventures now.
Год назад
Now I imagine Piccolo saying "ONE more thing!"
@dnmstarsi
@dnmstarsi Год назад
So does that make Capsule Corp. the equivalent of Section 13? Or Omega Shenron the equivalent of Shendu?
@BRANMiiNO_Animations
@BRANMiiNO_Animations Год назад
4:12 the bri'ish just jumped out 😂
@yfr7759
@yfr7759 Год назад
Anyone else think Masako kinda looks like Gohan?
@Motishay
@Motishay Год назад
Lol petition for Masako to cosplay as Gohan
@Anthonycheesman33
@Anthonycheesman33 Год назад
Same hair lol
@agerard6297
@agerard6297 Год назад
Petition him to be scholar Gohan holding an ice icream cone.
@byronrush9802
@byronrush9802 Год назад
​@@agerard6297That's melting and he has to lick it up😂😂😂
@powerlevelvlog1089
@powerlevelvlog1089 10 месяцев назад
Toymoria had to nerf gohan at times
@romram7984
@romram7984 11 месяцев назад
Idk personally as much as i like Gohan, I think i like Gohan more when he doesn't have to fight. He doesn't want to fight and hates having to do it and frankly with Goku and vegeta always around, he doesn't really have to fight. Tbh when i saw him in super playing with Pan, it made me happy that he got to have a family life as opposed to future Gohan who got forced into the Goku roll and didn't get to experience a normal life. I also think Gohan being always in his books can also be blamed on Chi Chi as well since most of Gohan's childhood was buried in books and studying. But honestly i'm just hoping that this movie doesn't negatively effect Gohan in a way where, in the future i don't like him. Like I guess i'm happy that Gohan fans will get to see him get stronger again and do stuff but idk if i have to see him fighting, i'd rather see him being the Great Saiyaman and protecting the town with Videl again over him going to other planets/universes to defeat the new villain of the week
@autumbreeze1129
@autumbreeze1129 Год назад
So, this means... GT Gohan is a better father than Super Gohan? 😂 I shouldn't find that funny, but I can’t help it
@plummerelijahep
@plummerelijahep Год назад
Can we redub black friza as black pearl friza?
@johanstenfelt1206
@johanstenfelt1206 Год назад
Hm, so true, i guess we’ll see what happens next.
@darnell16player
@darnell16player Год назад
I have always felt like that Gohan should be the main character. To show that intelligent characters and people are not only worthy of leading but also show respect over his moronic father who indeed isn’t a good example to me at all. I rather have someone who is intelligent and capable as I feel people need more of the smart people at the top than a idiot
@yep1486
@yep1486 Год назад
that dickriding and hateboner won't get you anywhere
@DrJareld
@DrJareld Год назад
That doesn’t work. Dragon Ball made Gohan a nerd with a family. A nerd leading a show about fighting doesn’t work, especially Dragon Ball. Maybe if it was like Future Gohan, it could work but current gohan, no way
@FirstLast-wk3kc
@FirstLast-wk3kc Год назад
4:46 Where's is this "check out"? No links, nothing. I use mobile phone and an app RU-vid if it's important
@Rising_Vortex
@Rising_Vortex Год назад
I actually like gohan that way He actually has character development, like take Spider-Man as an example, Spider-Man would’ve been a family man that has a beautiful wife, we would’ve seen mayday parker in the comics, if it weren’t for one more day of course, but I wouldn’t want gohan to train constantly like his dad, he would’ve been goku but if he was smarter, i’m fine with gohan training again but not constantly.
@AlfredFJones1776
@AlfredFJones1776 Год назад
Always has been.
@burnum
@burnum Год назад
The one big difference is that Gohan had to be thrown into the fray by comparison to Goku. A good example is beginning of Z and the Buu saga. Goku went after Gohan when Raditz kidnapped him, sure, with the help of Piccolo. But it was genuine. Gohan had to be blackmailed by Videl in order to really get back into the fray. Sure, you could say Saiyaman is sort of "in the fray" but he didn't take it seriously. Hell, even in the beginning of GT it showed that Gohan wasn't really there to help raise Pan. He had been helping Bulma.
@CountDVB
@CountDVB Год назад
Gohan was thrown into fray since he was 4 since with Raditz. No wonder he didn’t get any enjoyment from fighting.
@DrJareld
@DrJareld Год назад
Im hoping they do something with Gohan, because in my opinion he’s at an all time low. He is currently my least favorite Dragon Ball Character, and he’s just there. He doesn’t earn his power ups, and i find him boring and most of the time unnecessary. The only arc where his inclusion was some what natural was the TOP Arc.
@chumorgan443
@chumorgan443 Год назад
Gohan doesn't have a strong sense of adventure and isn't interested in becoming stronger... In a fighting based manga.
@Adonis.D.Prince
@Adonis.D.Prince Год назад
I always thought Gohan was the main character since the start of Z. DB was about Goku, DBZ was about Gohan.
@davigabriel783
@davigabriel783 Год назад
Thanks for the inspiration
@silntlegend
@silntlegend Год назад
So is every non what-if video going to be titled "OK, Dragon Ball?"
@desertfox4277
@desertfox4277 Год назад
What do you mean now? Gohan got boring after Cell arc
@agerard6297
@agerard6297 Год назад
It takes all kinds. This kind enjoyed the post-Cell Gohan.
@questionabletoast9346
@questionabletoast9346 Год назад
I'm loving the new editing
@TrueBroly
@TrueBroly 10 месяцев назад
Agreed.
@questionabletoast9346
@questionabletoast9346 Год назад
Damn Masako, I wasn't ready to be called out like that so early in yhe day. Relapse happens. (I kid)
@TheKingInYellow.
@TheKingInYellow. Год назад
Ngl, I'm kind of just done with Gohan at this point.
@ajshawn9496
@ajshawn9496 8 месяцев назад
Ecclesiastes 5 verse 2 Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God: for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few.
@taunttitan1714
@taunttitan1714 Год назад
I've said this before and I'd say it again Gohan is my least favorite dragon ball character I despise him if he became the "Main" character of Dragon Ball while it wouldn't make me stop loving the Franchise it make me stop caring about literally anything Gohan is in I have never watched DBS Super hero and why is that it's because Gohan is the main character in the movie and has the biggest asspull in the Franchise in it
@Gypsygeekfreak17
@Gypsygeekfreak17 Год назад
hey hey hey freaky is in the house
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 Год назад
I'd still rather have Gohan over Goku as a lead, modern Super era goku is just an aggravating character rather than someone that's actually interesting.
@MrSHADOWANGEL999
@MrSHADOWANGEL999 Год назад
Poor Gohan
@pirotessc1811
@pirotessc1811 Год назад
Go look if interested - How Buu VIOLATED gohan after he FUMBLES the bag.
@SinHurr
@SinHurr Год назад
So you could say that this video is to go even further beyond?
@cmoore6547
@cmoore6547 Год назад
What if EVERYONE turned good?
@Jaszi007
@Jaszi007 Год назад
As far as the title of the video goes, uh yeah duh. Gohan has ALWAYS been boring but just had really good hyped MOMENTS and then outside of that he’s a boring nerdy guy who only wants to fight if it’s life and death.
@princejamerson1
@princejamerson1 Год назад
I always like a character with flaws, they are way more interesting than a boring lame flawless character
@KOHMAXII
@KOHMAXII Год назад
Well i'm glad Toriyama Decided not to make gohan the main character, Cause Cause personality wise you never fit the role for japanese standards & The fact up the way he was Written from the start, You could say he's a Mary sue
@mashu_sukotto
@mashu_sukotto Год назад
Gohan is the strongest in the universe and still does do crap
@drunkrdm
@drunkrdm Год назад
nice video but the all the random camera angles made me feel like i was drinking without having any.
@teamharris1961
@teamharris1961 Год назад
bro yo teeth bro
@user-zx5vq6vy4d
@user-zx5vq6vy4d Год назад
Your the voice of kakarot the parody series I always thought his voice was too high. Now that I have your attention. Tell the lgbtq community the perfect heaven is closed off to them and you. Also on namek after goku switched bodies with ginyu he learned some new form of chi control. Which lead to that zenkai boost. Now with that being said. You could never be a saiyan. Your too mentally weak. You would never even defeat yourself. I am like a dagger in a storm, the sands of time. Randarkh thru the heart.
@madzman7214
@madzman7214 Год назад
Honestly I want piccolo, frieza or even yamcha adventures before gohans mostly cause he's only reacting and isn't even doing anything that fits in the story it would be more interesting if wanted to explore(space) but he doesn't
@josesosa3337
@josesosa3337 Год назад
I would've preffered that gohan, 17, and 16 all share a love for nature. I don't know why gohan wanted to be a "scholar". I thought it would be cool if 17 and gohan worked together since they're both siblings.
@CJ11-g3w
@CJ11-g3w Год назад
You voiced him
@DanielLopes-dh2hv
@DanielLopes-dh2hv Год назад
Gohan is quiet annoying as a character now tbh (character development wise)
@ScoutFromTheFortress
@ScoutFromTheFortress Год назад
hi youtube
@ralphmueller3725
@ralphmueller3725 Год назад
Honestly the Original Dragonball is still my favorite. I was kind of disappointed when from genuine story telling to more of a focus on the combat scenes. I'm sorry to burst your bubbles but, Dragonball fight scenes aren't really that great. Especially when compared to franchises like one punch man. Too me at least it feels too short changes because they made their focus on making the combat look fast instead of genuinely interesting. Honestly it almost made it feel like the resented having the combat scenes and were trying to get through them. Then they hang on awkward pauses in combat to pad out the run time because they didn't do much interesting other than the typical "teleport a pace punchy kicky fit teleport and repeat. I'm not saying the story is bad mind you, but i don't really feel like the caliber of combat they present balances the quality of their story. But, to end this story on a positive note. I absolutely LOVE what Team FourStar has done with the Material and to this day is my favorite way to watch DBZ and beyond lol. Also, If the Opportunity ever arose. I'd be a dream come true to get a full re-dub of DBZ+ to be re-voiced for the English version.
@xeykdeyk
@xeykdeyk Год назад
the thumbnail is so cringe it has made me not want to watch the video
@emperortoho
@emperortoho Год назад
you still clicked on it so it worked
@hombojimbo
@hombojimbo Год назад
Gohan:☝️🤓
@I-like-Hugs-and-Fluffy-boys
12:22 - "From time to time you have to accept the fact, that in Japan Raditz is really not a big deal..." Me (and many others Raditz's fans): "THAT Is ENOUGH !!!".
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