@@bensell982 if they had more than a month to track down Dio before Holly was going to die, Joseph would've taught all of the Stardust Crusaders Hamon, probably.
@@scotcheggable Stop time for 5 seconds, Oraora them. They regenerate and start using weird techniques on him. He tries it again. Doesn't work again. The World stresses his body, so he can only use it for 3 seconds next time. He hasn't found out a way to damage them. One of them touches him an absorb him. The end.
@@AgnusCavichioliPereiraDude, even if that was the case and they could recover from a milkshake brain, he could just store chunks of them in multiple boxes and wander off with the head or some shit.
Old Joseph, Caesar, Young Joseph, and Lisa-Lisa can use Hamon. Have Star Platinum in stopped time pummel them to a bloody pulp and have the other 4 inject hamon into their wounds before they can regenerate.
Well young Joseph was too stubborn and rash so he didnt think too kindly. After old Joseph’s past events, he had known better and learned from the mistakes. HE LITERALLY SAVED CAESAR’s LIFE!
@@IC-23 Stands are actually knows as "ghostly ripple" ripple being hamon, so in theory stands are actually like ur psychical manifestation of your hamon. Plus even if Jotaro doesnt kill them it will give Joseph, Ceasar and Lisa lisa time to destroy them
*Old Joseph:* "Jojo, come here for a second." *Joseph:* "Eeeh? What do you want, old man?" *Old Joseph* "What is it with everyone calling me 'old man'? Anyway, you'll be tempted to peek at Lisa Lisa. Don't." *Joseph:* "Wait, why-" *Old Joseph:* "DON'T!"
7:54 “For us, six days is no more than the blink of an eye.” *Sorry Kars, but I haven’t seen you or the other pillar men blink once in this entire video*
Older Joseph being able to stop his younger self from having that notorious argument with Ceasar was really touching to see. It had likely haunted him for his whole life, so being able to make things right probably gave a lot of closure.
Was gonna make the exact same comment. He's just back there like "Yeah, none of this has anything to do with me. You guys just hash it out however you like, lemme know if you need any ORA ORA ORA."
@@MariaLopez-lu8bf there's no paradox: travelling time is just replacing the current part of the timeline with an old one but with you there making it a new one. About "fate" as it may seem you are changing "fate" you're not as it is part of the "fate" that you would swap the future with the past and creatwe a new timeline based on it.
Or even in the manga somehow, imagine that, somehow every JoJo meeting up in the end to probably fight and die or win against some undefeatable thing. and interacting with each other too.
Lisa-Lisa: Let's get going, JoJo. Joseph, Old Joseph, and Jotaro: Yes, m'am! Lisa-Lisa: I mean Joseph. Joseph and Old Joseph: Yes, m'am! Lisa-Lisa: The young Joseph.... Joseph: Oh, right.
this shows that joseph did regret what he said to caesar through all those years. i love how he puts both himself and caesar into their place and scolds them for being selfish and irrational.
Mandalorehero oddly enough if they'd have maintained their training like LisaLisa: Caesar and Joseph would've maybe looked about 30-35 in part 3. (since LisaLisa looked 20 at 50*) (*I think it said she was 50)
Caesar would have stuck with it for sure, but I doubt Joseph would have. I just think it would be such a cool scene for an older, more experienced Caesar to face DIO in Cairo to get revenge for his grandfather. Although honestly, thanks to The World, that fight would end in a few seconds.
I'd say more around the time-span of 3-Minutes that translates to 0.1 of a second in universe that's supposed to represent nine seconds instead of the three minutes it turned out to be.
Old Joseph didn't outsmart them, he just shifted the argument to become so awkward that the Pillar Men were glad for any excuse to walk away from it as soon as possible.
Dante Edgeworth Only people/stands I could imagine beating ultimate cars without sending him to space would be Okuyasu - The hand Vanilla Ice - Cream Yoshikage Kira - Killer Queen The guy from the pylon Cheap Trick Gold Experience Requiem Alleyway inbetween Owson and that other store
Probably a box Okuyasu and his brother were looking for a stand user to kill their dad meaning he must have used the hand on him at some point and it didn't kill him, and the dad was morphed by Dios cells and seeing as pillar men are better vampires and ultimate Kars was like the best of that I somehow think he would regenerate it
Jotaro : *starts smoking in the middle of scene* Lisa Lisa : Can I have one? Jotaro : Sure. (I would love to believe Lisa Lisa's demeanor is where Jotaro got his badassery from)
I think it's so cool that Old Joseph is still at least slightly intimidated by the pillar men just from his memories of how intense and nearly fatal all of his battles with them were. Araki has some impressive character depth sometimes. I'd argue on the level of Wheel of Time easily.
That's what Joseph wanted to say to Ceasar in Switzerland for years, but never got the chance. He never got the chance to apologise to him, to try to help his friend, instead he found his friend went on a suicide mission without him, just to save his life... Imagine having to live with that for all those years, it would be torture. He was the one that emotionaly pushed his friend over the edge, he probably blamed himself partially.
Imagine how many times Joseph must have played this scenario out in his head. Late at night, trying to get to sleep, wondering if he could have saved Caesar if only he’d said something different. He’s been iterating this exact moment out in his mind thousands of times, so of course he’s come up with the perfect thing to say.
Caesar had Wamuu where he wanted him, backed into a corner. The problem is that he got too hasty and gave Wamuu an opening. Don't put yourself in a position where you shade Wamuu and allow him to attack.
I feel like the Joestar bloodline inherently can use hamon if they train enough. Like an ability lying dormant. Maybe that's why they always look so young lol
lmao so true Ayo *Naked Men* I heard that you were talking shit about my *Beautiful Hair* so, I'm afraid to tell you, *THAT YOU FREE TRIAL OF LIVING HAS EXPIRED*
@ReyaitheShadowWolf So you actually Enjoy seeing's Wamuu's bananna stick out through that thin underwear of his? you sick fuck. But if it's your thing ok, so be it. Be happy Kars is wearing chains and a cloth for you. one wind blow and whoosh there's his Junk. I can never unsee the Pillar men's half naked attires. I'm honestly surprised NO ONE even commented on their Attire.
Kars trying to snap them out of that like "Yeah lis- uhhhm......you ancest- ...they didn't listen...uhh........(oh they paused) BUT IT'S TOO LATE TO TURN BACK NOW."
@@aions_end actually in game, it was all changed. will zepelli lived, caesar lived, kakyoin lived, avdol lived, iggy lived and jotaro was a present father for joylene. but that’s only in game canon ofc
@@suli0786 well it’s canon for their universes, jotaro and old joesph managed to “fix” their timeline (part 3) then went to each timeline and fixed it, just makes me happy that there’s a timeline where jonathan lived and his descendants lived happily ever after without dealing with dio’s bullshit
Old Joseph knew exactly what to say in this argument to stop it in it's tracks. Which makes sense - he's probably replayed that particular argument in his head a lot in the 50 years between the original argument and now.
Kars at this point doesn't have the red stone and as i see it the Pillar men are in disadvantage as this scenario with Old Joseph having a stand and has experience fighting and beating the Pillar men and Jotaro who could stop time and could outclass the Pillar men in speed and strength with Star Platinum and not to mention the Pillar men cannot see stands too
this game is pain no, i'm not saying it's bad, i'm saying that joseph knew that that conversation was gonna end in pancake caesar and intervened the fuck out of himself who wrote this and why are they playing with our feelings like this
Kien D. Nguyen but he let it happen anyway as he was involved in the game's story overseering it while in its development cycle. its still him by accountability my dude
ZidanReignVG well he could just be like "yeah whatever, I have to work on JoJolion", the game doesn't matter that much to him, it's not part of his canon
"If we don't send someone at the safe at scheduled intervals a time bomb will explode the red stone" You forgot that the bomb will rewind time to an hour before.
4:46 the words he wanted to say his whole life. Those words could have saved his friend he cared for as a brother. Imagine 50 years, 50 long years how simple just those words could have prevented a lifetime of regret and pain. The fact he knew exactly what to say to both Caesar and even himself shows just how much he has regretted this argument and has been thinking what to say. What this game shows is that Joseph really knew how arrogant and selfish he was when he was young, and understood now why Caesar was so bent on revenge. This right here is the best joseph in any version because he got a chance to correct and stop his biggest failure in his life.
So everyone just forgot that they can't harm star platinum (only stands can damage other stands) and that this is jotaro at his strongest fresh out of the dio fight (meaning he has time stop). Also we have seen pillar men take lethal damage from non hamon attacks like wammu's chest when it got hit by the big crossbow's shot. Now 3 on 1 idk about his odds there but jotaro can definitely take one out individually even if his raw strength is inferior to them l (having an invisible, invincible, moving, punching, time stopping wall is kind of a big advantage)
I like how Joseph had to talk his way through the whole thing even known I'm pretty sure all it would take is Jotaro staring menacingly at everyone to get them to back the hell off.
@@BoreBone I see a lot of people saying that, and you're right, he can use his stand to conduct hamon, however, Joseph himself admits his hamon is far weaker than when he was at his peak during his exchange with DIO. So, unfortunately, nope, he likely wouldn't be able to kill the Pillar Men anymore.
Mr. Monocle but then again the stands can conduct hamon all it takes is to get close to them get behind jotaro give him hamon that then goes through star platinum.... profit
Jotaro also bluffs really well. Remember D’Arby the gambler. But yeah Joseph is amazing at it. I also like how he pulled the exact same bluff that Lisa Lisa pulled in the actual anime, with the small explosive.
Alyssa McCain, I was gonna say how he could be able to defeat the pillar men with Star Platinum: The World but I think it would be quite complicated without Hamon.
_ noahfunk1089 _ yes tge same kind of energy but no they can only be defeated by concentrated pure hamon wich stands aren’t but if all the hamon users gave jotaro some hamon energy it would lead to hamon oras and bye pillar men
@@diegomedina9637 I don’t think he could kill them, he was only able to kill dio because dio had a stand, and he killed his stand which killed dio. It would be very hard to kill the pillar men
To be honest I'd imagine although Kars was talking with the others, his eyes were focused on the young man at the back. The black coat, the golden chains, and a bizarre hat which blends with his hair. Gave Kars a look he won't forget, cause it was a menacing one.
I can see it now... Jotaro: .... Kars: Hm? A non Hamon warrior? Come! Kars shall be your opponent. Jotaro: .... *looks at Joseph* Not today. he's your problem not mines.
Old Joseph: "If something goes wrong, the survivors will be full of deep regrets. And I think you know exactly how that feels." I think you know how that feels more than anyone else, Joseph (Shiiiiiiiiiizaaaaaaaa)
Imagine if the pillar men were actually to fight old Joseph. They have no info whatsoever on him, but he knows all their tricks, knows how he beat them, has mastered Hamon and can do a lot of shit with a stand that the pillar men can't see. Yeah, he's probably a bit slower than his young self, but with that much information advantage, he could go bananas on them.
I love it how Old Joseph was trying to change Joseph and Ceasar's ways. He probably didn't want things to end up the same way as before, especially with Ceasar. He knows much better, since he himself encountered the same situation and knew that eoutcome.
I like how the whole time everyone is worried about the pillar men going all out, but Jotaro is just in the background like "Y'all remember I'm here right? Like I'm pretty sure I can beat them."
Mario Almanza I don't see why not but i think its mire about disrupting the timeline. He wouldn't become the man he is today (1988) without those experiences
Joot gets owned 3 on 1. Pillar Men may not see Star.But who cares?He was overwhelmed by a bunch of knives Dio threw. Kars slices bullets like it's nothing,Esidis ate a stick of dynamite and Wamuu killed an army of Dio-like vampires.
