...like this one. Not quite as old as I would like, but it has a lot of original features and it seems to have this "thing" about the 2nd floor - what the hell?
I definitely could hear the relays for the leveling also which means it's completely original, and that weird sound I think is the floor lamp but it's somehow damaged and the current is living something up it shouldn't be doing :D unless it is supposed to make a noise
This lift looks like it has been modernised around the early/mid 80's. The hall fixtures indicate this was installed late 60's early 70's. I think originally this would of been a 10 UCL controller. The car station panel Inner door and several landing architraves have all been replaced. I reckon it was upgraded to an Otis Gamma controller possibly Ms300 as per 7 segment car station indicator.
Yes, those vacuum fluorescent displays didn't fit in with the original design so had an idea things were not completely original. This doesn't have a leveling speed, more of a gradual drop in speed until reaching the landing - as you say, a 10UCL (does 10 mean up to 10 floors?) controller would not cater for this. Would this be the gamma controller's involvement to vary frequency to motor to control this? And one last question - is the 7-seg display connected directly to a Gamma controller or is it triggered via outputs (e.g. output 1 activates=G lights, output 2 activates, 1 lights, etc)?
mrmattandmrchay Matt, 10UCL were a standard early Otis controller. The old footage of the 34 floor firemans lift at E towers was a 10UCL. The 21 UCL was more advanced. The very early gammas were usually 2 speed. They had a rack of boards at the top a very primitive test tool to access limited functions talking leds for feedback information rather than lcd display. No vf involved. The gamma then evolved to start including drive units and the Otis MS300 pcb from the mid/late 80's. Buttons on the Ms300 pcb (1+2) allowed you to programme and input parameters. The display was fired from one of the rack of boards on the early version.
+mrmattandmrchay 10 UCL label on an OTIS controller designates as follows 10 is the size of the main contactors the next size up was 21 then 73. U denotes the system as UMV i.e unit multi voltage (DC). C designates that the system is a fully collective type. L denotes that the lift has a levelling facility. Others were N (AC) motor. 6 denotes 6 wires in the motor (3 High speed and 3 low speed) B which means that the system is push button and not collective. I means the lift is single speed. So in conclusion if the label on the controller is NIBL it is a single speed AC machine with push button control and a levelling facility.
Now THAT'S a lift. Must have been from the late 70's seeing as it has a digital segment indicator, which I have seen on 70's OTIS's in New Zealand from the late 70's, but sadly the one of those lifts that I actually filmed have now been modernised.
Probably from the early 1980s. I like the relay sounds. Looks like the lantern was installed upside down on the top floor. Interesting that there is only a down button on the intermediate floors. Where was that sound coming from on the 2nd floor? The lantern? The car top? The car station? Or somewhere else? Is it the nudge mode buzzer? I would think nudge mode would sound different?
I thought it as nudge mode sounder, but it seems to be on the outside of the lift. Strange isn't it? It's as if someone has connected a sounder of some kind to the hall lantern.
Yeah I know Joe :) There are a few reasons, but the main one is because there are so few old lifts around these days - these are very interesting for me and I don't really film modern day stuff. About 4-5 years ago I used to love visiting town centres are searching around - most of the time I'd find something to film. Now, well, even our old O&K lifts in tesco have been modernised and I've just about filmed everything else. Yes, there are old lifts out there, but WHERE lol! Benobve seems to find loads of stuff but I just can't really dedicate the time to go searching like I used to. And the ratio of "number of visits" compared to "finding old stuff" is going fast towards "loads of visits" and "hardly any old stuff"!! I do have a couple of videos coming though - I'll let you know when I've posted them - one of them is "Genuine 1980s lifts collection" - there is a bit of a twist to the video, but they are definately all from the early 1980s :D Thanks for your comment Joe :) Matt
Probably due for an upgrade or unable to repair due to lack of parts. They probably considered that with the other 3 lifts in the main block, is this lift still required. Cheaper to turn it off and board it up rather than spent thousands upgrading it unnecessarily.
@@mrmattandmrchay Yes they have plenty of lifts in the other block, although they really should've kept this lift, as any disabled person wanting to go down to the high street on the ground floor now has an extra walk. It would have been better to just do a logic replacement, which would cost nowhere near as much. If it's maintained by the shopping centre, fair enough, but if it's maintained by the council, that was a bad idea.
So, these lifts look creepy, say someone got into one of them and got stuck half way and suppose a ghost also got in with you but will only disturb you until the lift is stuck ;-D
No it isn't. Old lifts are amazing, and not to mention interesting. Most of us lift enthusiasts are preservationists. We like to keep lifts original for as long as possible.
Alex Ellis alloria There's not many left now, which is why I can't find much to film these days. HOWEVER, coming soon is my PURE 80s GENUINE LIFT VIDEO - Unmodernised definately 80s not doubt about it lol. I've got to edit it, but should be wicked!!
mrmattandmrchay Surprise surprise - it did have that annoying beep - if the beep is gone after the modernisation, then that would be the only good thing about the mod :/ Probably Lester Controls
