Old vs New: Best Overlander? Toyota Land Cruiser vs World's Most Hated Truck 

I will say I like quality and capability of my Toyota Sequoia with the 5.7 and 4x4 and the Land Cruiser looks cool too when compared to other available offerings in the US but it's nothing compared to the Land Cruiser 70 series overseas with the 4.5 v8 turbo diesel, solid front and rear axles, and snorkel. Bring that to America and compare it to anything else you can get in this country. I'd buy one.

What kind of tie rod ends did you go with and steering components?

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The Fast Lane Truck с чтением русского языка вышло круто 😂 Reading Russian was cool! great test: fun and very indicative

Mike Diaz Hopefully they did it with stuff from D-max store Anything from 2500 dmax is an upgrade

Sam Jacobs no

Sam Jacobs Absolutely true u said. Doesn't breakdown like other crappy show off SUVs.

We got ours stuck a few times. You must of never drove one offroad

big sarge Landcruisers are the defacto suvs in Australian Outback. And they’re some of toughest places in the world

Sam Jacobs Jimny the real deal.

Couldn't have said it better myself. ;)

Patrick Rich Which is the exact definition of the H2.

@@bossmansal67 I'm assuming you're an H2 owner or someone who wishes they had one? There's a reason why you don't see H2s as a common overlanding vehicle: they are too big for the tighter trails, reliability isn't their strong suit, and their MPG is horrible. When you're traveling great distances, "adventure travel", MPG kind of matters because you don't want to be stranded in the middle of nowhere. You'd need to carry a 55gal oil drum to be confident taking off into the backwoods with an H2. This is why more midsize trucks and SUVs are common overlanders - they are more nimble on the trails due to lighter weight, can travel greater distances because of greater MPG, and there's way more third party accessories in those segments.

@@mikec3454 I'm an H2 owner and use it as an overlanding vehicle. I also use a 2006 Tundra as an overlanding platform. The Tundra is a great deal smaller and gets moderately better gas mileage. It can't carry as much as my H2, isn't better off road by any stretch of imagination, isn't *more* reliable - though my Tundra is solid, and generally isn't my choice to go take a trip in. The H2 get's the nod for long trips mainly because it has capacity and it's proven to be durable/reliable. I have done the same basic mods that TFL did to their H2, with the addition of leveling, different UCP and 37" KM3's. I think the main reason you don't see Hummers often is simply because there are far fewer of them than other makes. I've owned a first gen Trooper (miss that thing), a pair of Land Rovers , and a Jeep. The Trooper was awesome, the Rovers were great when they ran (which seemed to be not often) and the Jeep was great off road but horrible on road. The Tundra and the Hummer are both better overall. FWIW I love the Land Cruiser, it's just not in my price 'reality'. There is absolutely better vehicles than the Hummer - it's older tech (mine is like 120 in dog years), it's heavy, wide, not a diesel....er I mean get's poor mileage, etc. But it certainly is capable.

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Entertaining but flawed review compare a similarly built 200 vs that built H2 its no comparison. Even said that factory Land Cruiser behind the wheel of an owner familiar with the LC would still run circles around the H2. The LC is better in ALL categories also it holds its value and will be on the road decades later when the H2's are all in junkyards. A Land Cruiser any series model you pick has a reliable lifespan of 25/30 years. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IXNDx_XgoKg.html

So tie rods equal built H2 ???? LMAO !!! The departure angle is not as good as the hummer. That LC would be ripping off bumpers. Just the fact that Toyota does not even put decent offroading tires on it should tell you they don't not intend it for hard offroading without going aftermarket.

Larry Landry Lol you're delusional if you really think a LC is better (and more reliable) than an H2 at offroading.

@@bossmansal67 Why is he delusional? Landcruisers have a proven track record. An H2 might do ok head to head with the soccer mom 200 series LC in this video. An H2 would get buried by 70, 60, and 40 series LCs. H2s are not for serious off roading.

...........all day stuck in the mud.

*john doe* it’s not really even considered a truck, it’s a car with a bed

TableRocked lol how is having a hummer even related to those things?

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World is not USA alone. World's hates mean 99% of american and a few of European products. Most of them are garbage

Also bmw drivers aren’t 99% of the people. Go down to Mexico, it’s chevy, Ford and dodge. A good amount of vw. And usually rich snobby kids drive bmw.

It's not nice to lie to yourself, only offroading your Suzuki saw was when you couldn't park it and the front tire touch the grass in a mall parking lot.

Michael Bacon samurais are for pussies

FSEVENMAN but they got big sword XD

wow people are dicks yeah id love a little 4x4... people call my tacoma small but its huge in all actuality

Anyone who considers the suzuki samurai/ sierra/ Jimmy weak because they're small has never been in one off roading. They are nice and light, have great approach angles, and have very good ground clearance to relative size.

The first thing I changed on my 2003 was the tie rods. The window sticker on mine was $55k - I'm the second owner, bought it in late 2014 @ 18K miles. It's been fantastic. You guys built a great rig.

@Maty you are the man, brother. The H3 Alpha Offroad package features a 50.3:1 crawl ratio and that sweet LH8 under the hood. In stock form it is an absolute goat on the trails. Best decision of my life. Looking forward to babying a 2nd generation H2. Forget a delicate Land Cruiser. Forget an overhyped Bronco. Hummer. Like nothing else. Truly.

Big, Brawny ie too big for the trail, and too expensive when you rip-off a fender.

Sergiu Puscasu The H2 also has a big, brawny, naturally aspirated V8. As a matter of fact, the H2's V8 is even bigger.

In other countries toyota offers the 4.0L V6 and a 4.5L V8 twin turbo diesel in the 200 series.

@@bossmansal67 Well in displacement the H2's engine is bigger, but in the physical size of the engine, the 6.2L V8 is much much smaller than the 5.7L 3UR-FE.

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@@jamesflores9456 top gear uk

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Like Stacey David's "as you can see....".

Thats the problem with Land Cruisers. They are so capable offroad, but they cost damn near 100k and nobody that buys one really wants to drive them offroad. They put the best technology in that SUV, and then didnt give it any ground clearance. Kind of tragic.

Brad Conklin take it off road and break it. My new Expedition will destroy that thing & get 300k mis.

@@Davido50 sure it would. Good luck with the shitty welds in your fuel pump.

Will Thornton Check out the 70 series they sell in Australia. Land cruisers are the defacto off-road beasts everywhere in the world except ‘Murica. Even the rich Arabs trust them to the deserts.

Все равно на русском говорит с акцентом

HahasoNotorious 327 what is so funny?

Larry Queen Hummer came factory in 35’s so you’re saying? Hummer H2 will see more off roading than most LC ever will 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@samuellloyd6582 go to other countries with deserts. No one uses hummer there

Klarschwert Kquid Fool, that's because some foreign countries don't sell American vehicles.

@@bossmansal67 So? that's not land cruiser's problem. It is because there is no demand for Hummer in many markets. What do you want?

@@samuellloyd6582 I guess you haven't traveled much. The only thing I see are hiluxs and land cruiser. Go to any Safari in Africa. 90% of the cars are going to be land cruiser.

I'd be happy to help you guys export one if you are interested, but it'd likely be a UK RHD spec Cossack, less useful in the US.

What, and make the jeep look bad?!

tops303 sounds like a plan, I thought it was comedy

H2 is not lifted, u can fit 37" without any mods.

It’s a loan.

There is no way that Jeep with its add-ons cost $44K. I thought they bought it used?

News that matter The Hummer had absolutey no modifications at all. The 35" tires the H2 had are from factory. The only thing that was changed was the tire tie rods, which then isn't even a mod, it's more of a necessity than a mod. The H2 also isn't lifted.

the h2 is stock.

@@bossmansal67 you may be right. If you are then I am mistaken. My apologies. I'll look into it and confirm

GMC Jae well, it is a rock crawler, just not the best one 😊

What do you mean Tommy’s Jeep did just as good as the rubicon if not better.

Define rock crawler- Tommy's Jeep was crawling over those rocks just fine. The LC and Hummer are definitely not rock crawlers. The H2 can only be described as a rock crusher, and the LC, well my missus owns one, and I'm afraid to say and its a mall crawler.

Edwin Henry Blachford but no American 80 series Land cruiser had a diesel so a bit hard to compare.

oops yep. More power more fuel. But source the 4.2 litre 6 cylinder naturally aspirated diesel from the Toyota bus for this vehicle. 24 valve turbo if you want the extra maintenance. Personally I find a mountain to be a mountain and I can get over all. Each to their own

Edwin Henry Blachford I'd love a diesel Land cruiser been looking for a nice 60 or 70 series to import.

the 70 series 6 cylinder diesel tray top is considered as the ultimate boundary riders vehicle in Australia for Roo, Dingo and Fox Shooters. I ain't shitting you for I've done it. Slower than the petrol until you get to rough terrain, the diesel in any variant is unstoppable. Also half the fuel. Personally I'd opt for the naturally aspirated (since I have one in my Landcruiser) because at 130hp this works out perfectly on sand. Always seek a vehicle with the front diff locker but if a competent offroad driver the standard rear wheel LSD is awesome enough. But yeh rear LSD + front locked diff is amazing.. Get an AWB locker on the front if you don't have the Toyota unit. Then you will be unstoppable. The "Dog Fence" runs from Ceduna to the SA border and a 70 series tray top is considered the ultimate rig - you can make good money shooting roos and foxes with one of these. But only one of these Toyotas ( or maybe a very good Nissan GQ diesel ) for anything else breaks. That is the strength of 60, 70 and 80's series Landcruisers - they never break. If fitting big tyres for some obscure reason up grade the front Burfield joints and axles.. but why you'd want that useless extra expense is beyond my reason. But hey I simply live and work in Central Australia so who gives a damn eh

Edwin Henry Blachford I live in Colorado, USA right now. I've got a Petrol FJ Cruiser. Pretty much stock but a rear locker. I work on access roads and right of ways in the oil field. So mud and sand is where I drive for work and I play on the rocks in the mountains. I want to go on vacation out in Australia for a few months and get a Land cruiser to hit a few nice tracks up.

look around...they are driven by dr's wives...its just a big bloated station wagon to them, not an offroader

Used ones are still expensive

Its almost always been 2nd/3rd owners for these and other high end touring wagons since the early 90's. No shock there. I mean even the ubiquitous 80 series Land Cruiser was bought by some dentist new before people like me got a hold of it.

I personally love that these live easy, sheltered first lives. Im happy letting them pay the depreciation curve...its not going to matter how many easy miles are on these by the time people who intent to tour with them get their hands on them.

It had the pathetic I5 engine though, and was just a rebodied chevy Colorado. One of the owners of a bike shop I worked for had one, it could barely tow a bike trailer on the freeway as it was. Nothing awesome about it at all. Now if it had the I6 other models based on the same chassis had it would have been nicer.

Oldbmwr100rs my 2008 H3 is the Alpha model and has the 5.3 V8. It’s a beast

It might look the part but it can't play the part...worst truck in history..

@@MultiDreamer1979 that's a lie.

Looks can be deceiving

@@ismailtopa3671 maybe, but not on the H2.

@Bezo Balo no shit...

Its not a car its not a truck its hummer the only hummer

its been this way for a while. My 97 came one way - loaded. Doesn't mean its less capable.

Neal Bird 80 series was a mall crawler when new also. Saw plenty of them in the 90’s. Solid front axle though!

U do realize they paid probable 10K or less for that H2 VS $85,000 LC. So guy with LC will try to refi first.

M6serge when they were new

I paid 56 out of door for top spec H2 in 08. Looks like it’s still considerably cheaper that LC.

M6serge I think he is implying that only the people who would need to refinance would own the h2

I agree. Comparing a modified to a stock vehicle yields what conclusion?? Anyone who wants to use a Hummer as a daily driver I wish them luck. They aren't reliable and you pretty much can't see a thing out of their windows.

Yeah, "overland" gets thrown around a little too caviler in the US these days. No it doesn't mean going off road for a few hours.

sorry for your prejudice of the Hummer. Just a little education about this vehicle. The reason so many people liked the Hummer was it didn't need any upgrades. Except for the Tie Rods, I will agree with that... what was the reason behind that I will never know. The Hummer was ready for off road right from the show room. The front end was built like a chevy 2500 for the weight of the motor and the rear end 1500 for towing. It comes with 33's, and you can put 35's or 37's without upgrading anything. the only thing besides the tie rods I have upgraded was the exhaust system. I installed 4 inch pipes with a Evenflo muffler, and a better air filter. it puts me up to 362 HP, I can do a little more to get to 400 but then it will start messing with my gas mileage. Right now I get 12 to 13 in town and 19 highway, maintaining the speed at 1500 RPMs I'm at 22 to 23. That's no BS, give me your email and I'll send you a picture to prove it. The reason why I get this type of mileage is because I don't drive it like I stole it. I have owned this one for the past 5 years and has been a solid vehicle. All I have done to it was normal oil changes and schedule maintenance, plugs and cables, air filter, belts, trans and radiator flush.

@eric Parks - Don't you have that backwards? I think the rear was the 14 bolt corporate axle (from the 3/4 ton) and the front was the half ton axle. As an aside I think the H2 could have really been something special had it been allowed to survive past rubbish GM and their dark 2000's. the mechanical engineering was quiet good and some legit effort went into making it capable. I even wrote a thing about it years ago. oppositelock.kinja.com/why-the-h2-should-have-been-a-classic-1447347444

Hello Eric, First of all I want to thank you for the enlightment in the H2. Now, as I wrote in the comment above, this is a personal opinion and I don't mean to offend anyone. I work in the auto industry and have been around cars for over 30 years. My experience with H2s have been very bad and this is my grounds to make such statement - reliability. To my knowledge - and I might be wrong - is that the H2 is a GMC Denali with a different shell and bigger tires, again I might be wrong. I wanted to express my surprise when i see "Experts" using terminology that they don't have clear. Overlanding and rock crawling are very different activities and the vehicles are designed with that in mind. Size, weight and shape and factors that are taken in consideration when designing a vehicle for a purpose and if we're talk about overlanding there are other options that might be more suitable. Like i stated before, overlanding and rock crawling or even back-road offroading, are not the same thing. Cheers!

Roberto Olivar Yeah, and opinion does not equal fact.

J Boy wouldn’t that be nice if GM bring back the Hummer!

Ryan Martinage It's literally exactly the same what we get here in the middle east.

Ibraheem Al hadede I'd love to get the ones from Australia. Solid front axle v8 turbo diesel.

Ryan Martinage You mean the older style? Because you will never get a solid axle in the current models.

You can buy new 70 series LC in AUS with the solid front axle.

No. You can buy brand new 2018 model year 70 series Land Cruisers with all the things that made them famous.

Goco Family Facelifts don't make an 10 Y.O. design modern.

jironmeister yeah the LC200 is so outdated for a car you can still buy brand new today.

Allen D. Typical Toyota fanboyism, defending their lack of innovation and overall blandness. There is a reason it’s called the Bland Cruiser.

Alex Stelling and you are the only one calling it bland cruiser.

Alex Stelling or maybe americans are so lazy that they need a vehicle that drives for them?