Old vs New: Ten Commandments - Nostalgia Critic 

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My personal favorite song is "Deliver Us," but the Plagues is still really good

I love the plagues and deliver us but when you believe was my favorite.

+DiscoClam www.broadway.com/buzz/181290/odds-ends-patina-miller-set-for-stephen-schwartzs-the-prince-of-egypt-more/ That's why it's going to be a broadway musical! EEEEE! :D

+Jennifer Thimell Holy shit, I'm so pumped! :D Now they need to put Disney's The Hunchback of Notre Dame on broadway!

Wallz TheGamer me too, but in his defense, it would have felt weird to compare them since one was live action and the other was animated, giving the animated film a clear advantage in visuals.

There wasn't really much to compare. Most of the plagues were beyond the special effects capabilites of the time that the "Ten Commandments" was made, and even the few they did use honestly did not look that great. "Prince of Egypt" on the other hand is beyond state of the art.

Yeah well apparently Hakuna Matata, a song made by the same artist is better than that.

Deliver us is my fav song but the plagues is a close second

@@trippcory you say as if he didn't do a King Kong Old vs New also comparing their effects ;)

wilji1090 That's so cool!

wilji1090 that's fucking brilliant

Wait!! Really? I always thought I heard at least three voices in God‘s lines. I wasn‘t really sure. I figured if so to represent God‘s ambiguity. (Even though God is addressed with masculine pronouns, God is not man, not human.) So it makes sense to me if you hear both men and women.

wilji1090 thanks for the info. That actually makes a wonderfully awesomely weird amount of sense.

@@Kiku91 I had heard they tried to do a man, woman, and child but it ended up sounding too "demonic" so they just used a man and woman

Proven by the fact that he used the music throughout the whole video.

I disagree.

no lies told here

SarnVision He also used the classic Elmer Bernstein score throughout as well. Both are really amazing scores to them!

I think the theme to The 10 Commandments is also epic.

Metro exodus?

Yep

No contest at all

Is that even a question?

The Rugrats Exodus episode was better than Gods and Kings

Just a clarification, Ten Commandments is not telling the Exodus story verbatim either. There are a ton of changes, subplots, and expansions from the original story to make it more cinematic. Even though TC is a more reverential, overtly religious film than the more humane PoE, both actually prioritize entertainment and drama over faithful adaptation, just from a different angle.

Yeah it makes sense its like how its better if men can enjoy a movie like titanic and women enjoy something like did hard.

the prince of egypt depicts many aspects of ou religion better too

well, funny you say that. Moses,was actually not as charismatic and confident in the bible either. He was very scared about his calling at first, and didn't think he was worthy to carry it out, like Prince of Egypt Moses.

I think the reason why people peel away the religious elements is to try and find its core. Like NC said, if you peel away Prince of Egypt, its core is the bond between the brothers. And that's not to say a story's core can't be about God, but what does the core say about God? About our relationship to the religion? TC's core wasn't the bond between brothers, so what was it about? Fearing God? Taking your destiny? The fact that you kind of have to guess is why I personally like PoE more. You understand it immediately and can connect with what it's saying.

he had a stutter, in the bible aaron speaks for him

I very much agree

I don't think the Bible directly says he had an actual stutter or impediment, unless there was a euphemism that was lost in translation. The primary quote about this comes from Moses himself in Ex 4:10: "...I am not eloquent, neither before or since You have spoken to Your servant; but I am slow of speech and slow of tongue." (NKJ) The Biblical Moses had a running theme of low self-confidence, and often doubted that he could do what God wanted and convince people to do things. That was his main issue, whether he actually stuttered or not.

Synchronizor "heavy of mouth and heavy of tongue.” It does not outright say it but it is heavily implied.

It could certainly be interpreted that way, sure. But the Bible doesn't say for sure; and whether he did stutter, or he just didn't speak well, it doesn't really change the story anyway.

Jade Prescott I agree wholeheartedly about the Prince of Egypt. It is a very well done movie and the music is absolutely beautiful and works perfectly for the movie

yea I kinda like it to

Jade Prescott You're doing a GREAT JOB adulting! 😇👍🏼

Responding to an comment here lmao but yes, the Burning Bush score and scene makes me cry just thinking about the first time I saw it. I burned out my CD of this OST.

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i seen it with my grandpa when i was younger haha so i have nostalgia for it :))

Yeah, it's one of the good ones.

I liked both of the movies

I agree, the movie's almost 20 years old now and the animation is just amazing even today.

+michael johnson There's not actually all that much preaching in the Torah. Moses is even said to have had a speech impediment in many Jewish traditions.

Scott Finkelstein I haven't seen it am quoting Nostalgia critic, a weak point in this movie cant be the fact that its "too preachy" that doesn't make sense. This movie meant to be a adaptation of a story in the Bible and Torah- two holy religious books.

Brandon Roberts I'm not calling it preachy am quoting the Nostalgia critic, a weak point cant be that its "too preachy" I mean it is a bible/Torah story.

+Scott Finkelstein Which means Jeff Goldblum should have played Moses

That may be true, but I think Heston's portrayal is more flattering to Moses

Which would be the sin of pride...

@@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 There's a difference between having pride and self confidence.

FINELY! SOMEONE READ THE GOD FORSEKEN BOOK FOR ONCE!

tripp cory you can be humble and self confident

kyotheman69 You're absolutely right, but between the two movies, prince of Egypt is more accurate. Not a perfect representation, but they're getting there.

+Dr.CookiesNeedLoveLikeEverthingDoes Umm, what does that have to do with anything? It doesn't matter if you believe in the Bible or not, the Bible is still the source material for these films and accuracy is considered important by those who care for the source material. Comic books are fictional, but people still care if the portrayal of the characters in them are accurate or not. Your comment makes no sense, dawg.

Dr.CookiesNeedLoveLikeEverthingDoes not fictional, sir

The Old King Well, yes, Moses probably wasn't a white guy from a country that'll only exist several centuries later.

joujou264 you say that but, there are quite a few similarities. Israel as a country did not exist until the end of world war two, so Moses did actually come from a place that would not exist for literally thousands of years. and on the colour issue, because the middle east is such a melting pot of cultures, manu people who lived and live there have a fairer complexion than you would think

Agreed I have been born and raised as a Christian and went to a private Christian school. It fits what I have been taught it is not all about heroic sort of things. He was human. He was scared. But through God he did the most unbelievable things because he want to free his people. He probably was hurt to leave his brother and the place he was raised and the prince of Egypt conveys someone more relatable more human. Even though you know the story it still makes it feel more interesting and alive. I honestly used to be bored after hearing about it over and over. I knew the plagues the burning burning bush the rising water to cross the red sea but...this...this did not bore me no matter how much I watch it. It just is so...breath taking. It is not what most people see people in the bible as

I didn't know Moses had a speech impediment.

Can we appreciate the irony that Jeff Goldblum voices Aaron, I mean, not exactly a speech impediment, but a clear affectation.

@@moviemaniac2159 Oh yes, he did.

I feel that both Moses' are a bit on equal standing. The fact is that they were made in vastly different times with vastly different styles of acting. I saw TTC first as my mother loved the movie. (Even bought a collectors DVD set for her on mother's day about 10 years back.) The difference of the two seem to be TTC is comic book hero Moses and TPoE is a youth novel Moses. Though I would have to agree that I prefer TPoE. As you said, Moses was a flawed character in the bible. Most of God's chosen are flawed people and TTC just didn't really have any flaws. I mean the reason Moses never gets to enter the promised land is due to the fact that instead of speaking to a rock/stone, he hit it with his staff. To note on the portrayals of God, I would say that TPoE does better. It did a show and not tell for the most part of the wrathful God that many seem to think of as old testament God and the softer loving God was done in a very clever way. The voice of God should be both unimaginable and deeply familiar. Thus his voice was done with a multitude of other voices but, most strongly with the same voice as Moses.

+Nights Owl I think there is somethink as a God but we don't know what he wants and just make it up. The movie teaches good morals.

+Niokolay Dimitrov Good morals? I hope you are kidding, if not, you are the most deluded deist I've ever seen.

+Nights Owl I'm a Pagan/Wiccan, but it's one of my top 10 favorite animated movies.

Brandon Roberts Very true. It really makes you feel overwhelmed in the God scene. At least, it does for me. And the animation throughout the movie is breathtaking!

+Nights Owl That's why The Prince of Egypt is so good. It accomplishes both being a retelling of a religious story, and just being a good animated movie. In my opinion, THAT is what you show kids to get them interested in the bible.

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Oh my gosh that's perfect!

HAHA

No

That film hits me in the SOUL

Until you compare it to Road to El Dorado, and then the real debate starts up XD

Best story should go to the Ten Commandments because it’s a better adaptation of exodus and it goes way further.

Morgan Rakes you don’t have to be religious to enjoy a damn good movie 😊

I'm glad you liked it! I'm a religious person and I also agree Prince of Egypt is excellent. It's a movie anybody can enjoy regardless of beliefs.

While a agree whole heartedly agree with your last statement, in my opinion I say that Atlantis: The Lost Empire is my favorite simply because its one f the few times Michael J Fox played his role very well and also Lenord Nemoy was excellent as the wise old king of Atlantis who is close to death and is so adamant on keeping the old ways despite their way of life literally dying out. Also Kieta is the most underrated Disney Princess ever

Zachery Schmidt Eh. I mean the movie is fine but it never had me extremely awe stricken. Cept for the scene with Kieta had that thing going on with her crystal. Plus she voiced by Cree Summers so extra points there. But story wise I wasn’t terribly invested and the villain is forgettable. The cast itself has funny moments and some memorable even today but again, was never extremely invested. Beautiful movie and they did make the world and environment feel big and important, but if I were to pick an underrated Disney film that caught my attention, I’d say Treasure Planet. Not only was it a passion project and it shows, I was thoroughly invested in nearly all the characters. The story is simple but honestly, Silver and Jim’s relationship tugs on my heart strings and makes me just want them to achieve their goals. Plus the effort put into the animation! It really boggles my mind how little attention that film got.

Prince of Egypt is made by Dreamworks not Disney.

Agreed, more people should watch it.

I don't get why everyone says it is underrated. Anyone I've ever mentioned it to automatically responds with "I love that movie! I really wanna go watch it now." It's Joseph King of Dreams that no one seems to know of in my experience.

@@RavynMad121 i guess because it wasn't a great box office succeed and only won an academy award on best original song

Just like me and everyone else

I completely concur in fact this is often a movie I watch during Easter I know it doesn’t have technically anything to do with that holiday but it works

as a matter of fact, the God from Prince of Egypt was both too, he smithes the shit out of egypt and The Nostalgia Critic didn't show the part when he goes "WHO MADE THE DEFT AND THE BLIND, I DID", that was savage.

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+Víctor Barraza you beat me to it

And non-existent!

+TheNBKiller just shut up with bringing your beliefs in this comment

Not to mention it can be intimidating at times, making you worry for Moses. It's also a ton of fun to learn how to sing as a kid. When you finally manage to sing along to the first part of that song, listing off all those Egyptian gods with proper pronounciation, you feel like a miniature god yourself.

TC hasn't aged well? I beg to differ. I did not even hear about the movie till recently, but I watched it recently and I am very impressed.

I honestly don't know what the problem with the comedy in "The Prince of Egypt" was. What's wrong with a bit of humor in your movie

To be fair to Ten commandments, it's not necessarily bad acting, it's just a more 'stage acting ' rather than 'film acting'. The actors actor like they're part of a staged production not a film which hollywood never does anymore (for the reasons you just pointed out - stage acting on film comes off unnatural). They probably decided to go with stage acting for this movie because it was still considered the 'higher' form of acting or at least the more serious.

It aged well for films from the 50. Still has one of the most impressive productions, action, visual effects, and writing from a film

+Max smart That song got me to watch the movie.

+Max smart Keep in mind that the plagues only affected the Egyptians.

+348joey but moses had to watch the people he grew up with suffer. He was raised Egyptian

Erica Weiner He was raised with full knowledge that he was a Hebrew. He didn't worship their gods or follow their customs. He was even nursed by his real mother.

348joey That's the case in the Bible. The movie made it clear he wasn't aware of his heritage until adulthood

A G Mario Mario and Luigi Mario.

Andrew West yes good job that was indeed the joke

Like Victor Mesa and Victor Victor Mesa Jr.. seriously, look them up

How many Moses are there ?

Super Moses bros

True, and not to mention Moses is supposed to have self-worth issues. The reason he even brings Aaron with him is because he believed he lacked the charisma to influence others. So he needed someone to relay his words. So a proud and perfect Moses is exactly the opposite of what the Bible claims.

LeonGun8 Agreed

Basically what the other folks said. From what I know of the Bible, God is a fan of humble origins. He's also a fan of dramatic badass moments, but only after he raises the person up and makes them badass Himself.

Psychronia I agree!

While this isn't a counter-argument, it is relevant. The Ten Commandments is without a doubt more influenced by Christian ideology rather than scripture, which is ironic seeing as there is a mention of scripture. Many Christians fall into the pit--at least once--of reading the Bible through a black-and-white lens. Misconception: Anyone who follows God is inherently good and anyone who doesn't is inherently evil. Par for the course, Moses is remembered and idolized as a superhero, while the Egyptians are all seen as villainous monsters. Humanity is more complex than that. Moses is sinful, Ramses is sinful; Moses has a heart dealing with a heavy burden, Ramses has a heart dealing with a heavy burden. They just so happen to be brothers playing on different sides for reasons that are pretty understandable. The Prince of Egypt not only showcases a closer-to-accurate Moses, it gives the viewer a more realistic look at humanity. I admire how it clears up a misconception about God as well. God is vengeful + all-powerful, but also loving + merciful. Thank you for reading. ^^ My writing is brutally honest. ^^;

They literally did the same thing earlier this year. Remember Exodus, with Christian Bale as Moses?

+Yvette Berner I give it a pass. I mean it was the fifities.

+sigh824 I have Ten Commandments a pass, Exodus had no excuse.

+Yvette Berner MOST Isrealites, Canaaites and Egyptians, Sudanese and Ethiopians (including the now Arabs) don't look black either - they resemble Italians, Greek and Turkish more - middle eastern middeterean. They're pretty hairy basicly - and on average Israelites have a bigger cock than white people, so they look more manly but not more black or anything. Slight complexion only.

And the fact they don't all speak English? Oh, wait ....

Yeah.... I've never liked that bit of the movie. It sounds to like it's meant to be from exodus 8:10 where it's been mistranslated in the king James version. The original text has the tetragrammaton (the four letters in Hebrew that spell out YHWH or JHVH) in place of LORD or God. The King James version has several inaccuracies like that.

Cranite Star it's an inaccuracy. A deliberate one at that. Ancient Hebrew is only written in consonants. Normally when translating to English the vowels are added where needed. However do to a misunderstanding of the commandment to "not take the name of god in vain" translators began to replace the divine name with titles and as a result the original pronouciation is lost. Because of this most translators often refuse to place the name of god in the Bible. And as for what the divine name should look like in English it's either Yahweh (YHWH) or Jehovah (JHVH)

@@KainZeuxis yeah to get my point across i just use the names it was given through history this being EL ABBA ALLAH YAHWEH the god of abraham, isaac and moses the farther of the trinity and although it is a mouthful it can really help build a sense of aggresion when argueing about its cruelty

Hmm, yes, the god here is made out of god

thats such a dumb line

couldve just hugged him

HyperTrent better than I Noah guy

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puns

Get out! XD

Any child friendly version of the Joseph story is going to fail to convey the story. If I remember correctly they skin over the murder, rape, genocide, slept with your wife stuff that explains why Joseph DESERVES to be highly favored. So it looks like he is the favored child just because and the brothers almost seem justified. Also I feel like Joseph is more naive and becomes less naive in that movie instead of already having a good world view and faith that gets challenged. And as I write this I just realized that the 1999 one is the Donny Osmond one and all my points are invalid.

Thatsamuraiguy and friends Exodus is terrible af

Predisimal Yeah a lot of the old testiment is pretty brutal and it's kind of hard to convey without talkimg about some pretty terrible things. There's also people repenting of really terrible things like rape that I feel most moden audiences would not condone.

Old Testament you say "brutal" I say "realistic". Life in the BCs wasn't exactly the best concerning the scientific method was still an infant or toddler at this point but humans made the most of it they could. punishments tended to be brutal, why wouldn't the punishments of a deity not be brutal?

Depends on how you explain repentance. Repentance is more than just saying "I'm sorry," it's changing an entire life and an entire worldview. It's recognizing that you were wrong, and not only putting aside what you did, but actively working to make up for it and, quite often, working against it.

One thing I loved about good in pop is that adipose c

Cousins, brothers, what difference is that in ancient Egypt? Pharaohs married their sisters all the time

Duh...

The book version is fucking terrible. The worst god of all three.

ya the book have more detail lol

+James Matthews Hope you guys aren't talking about the Bible.

Yep Exodus right after Genesis before Leviticus

Val Kilmer's always been underrated. He's been in a lot of movies but when people talk about great actors, he tends to be overlooked. For example, if you think of a great Batman, who comes to mind first? Kevin Conroy? Michael Keaton? Christian Bale (overrated but still)? Hardly anybody points to Val Kilmer and granted, that's partially because Batman Forever isn't exactly the peak of Batman's history in cinema but Kilmer's performance in it was still pretty damn good.

he also played a Nazi in Schindler's List. Makes me wonder why he plays Jew hating characters.

"Ray Fines"

+Nathaniel Levesque Wonder? Ralph Fines + Goddamnit, he acts the characters, not live them= NAZI!

+Nathaniel Levesque Because historically a lot of people hated Jews?

Narwail just pointing out that his role in POE was the 2nd anti-Semitic character in 5 years.

I have bulgarian friends and when i go to their house and they are watching bulgarian tv, some shows are just dubbed by 1 old guy that speaks for all the characters and it's so fucking weird.

Alex Rus Yea, that's our bad dubs. We have many of them...

Sofitssofi that's AWESOME

Alex Rus same in my country usally one male and one female. Sometines only male xD . Small contry do not have big budget for dubbing.

Idk wether it means anything to you, but I believe Ofra Haza who sings as Moses mother in the English version also did all of the dubs for that song So it would still be her voice, just in your language 💜

You read my mind, lol. While PoE has certain unnecessary factual inconsistencies towards the original Biblical story (like Tzipporah having been to Egypt), the parts it does correctly it also does SPLENDIDLY. The Splitting of the Red Sea is just one such bit - showing how it was really "water on the right and on the left", lol.

Menton? The frentmenter?

Well it is now in Public Domain so it will be easier to access.

+Why OMg First one was way better. It just fit the tone it was trying to set.

matt fahringer I agree, also the first one had better casting and the comedy was great.

+Shawn Ravenfire Definatly need to have more Old vs New episodes. I'd like to see ones for: Nightmare on Elm Street, Cinderella, The Manchurian Candidate, Ocean's Eleven, Scarface the list goes on.

+Shawn Ravenfire i hoped he would do old vs new on special on george romero zombie films for halloween

He did one for Cinderella, the Disney Classic vs Disney Remake. (The two tied, each having their own strengths... And they decided that the best Cinderella story was Ever After)

DarkLordGanondorf190 god is not a tranny.

@@warriormanhasdied6479 it's not supposed to represent god as trans, it's supposed to represent the idea that God is both formless yet can also assume almost any form and appears differently to different people. God has a presence that goes beyond mortal comprehension, god is in all things so god can appear as anything that god chooses.

@@varangiangaming7178 I couldn’t have said it better

@@varangiangaming7178 God is a man, he is the Father and to think him as anything else blasphemy

@@Anon-lu6ct let’s not jump to conclusions

lol this is true.

+megagoldenpearlvoice Well it'd be interesting to see which one sucks more

Kyle Shea This is also true.

Maybe this is the year he will bring it back, what with all the remakes of classic movies that are coming out these days, especially the Disney ones. Those would be really good to see compared back to back.

Eh, I think God prefers "The Prince of Egypt's" portrayal of him also.

i dont really think either movie properly represents YHWH as PoE is too nice about him and although the ten commandments made him worse it in no ways encapulates the horrors of the old testiment god. this is a god that would drown billions for the simple act of being a bit annoying. this is the god who comdens rape victems to death for not being loud enough. this is the god that forced his people to eat for 'the fruit of the womb' after forcing apart the skin of pregnant women. in war would have his armies hack young boys to death infront of their mothers who would then be skewered in front of their virgin daughters who would then be taken home as 'wives' and brutally raped. this is not the behaviour of a loving god but of a horrifying being of upmost brutality created by a culture of cruelty and barberism and destroy those who dont live up to his standards

@@jmurray1110 what the hell you smoking, chief?

@@TheGame052 nothing i couldn't smoke to begin with it all just observations from the bible stories mysterious ways can only get you so far

@@jmurray1110 Out of curiosity, did you ever read the Bible start to finish?

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@@Pharaoh_TutankhamenI mean, that's kinda hard... You're dead after all

and the stupid person who wrote that line is made of stupid

@@maverickhunterstupidiocy7779 and made of dead

Wasn't the original translation of the 1st Commandment "Thou Shalt have No other Gods Before Me", implying that other gods existed?

@@andrewames247 It could imply that, or it could simply mean "don't put anything else in my place"

Plus, it just shows how utterly stubborn and wicked a human heart is when he, in spite of witnessing all the plagues, refuses to surrender his pride.

Also something interesting is that each plague was intended to insult the Egyptian gods. For example the Frogs essentially turned the god of magic Hect into a pest

When God takes a life, it’s more like a parent pulling a kid out of school when you think about it! XD

I think many non-believers tend to forget/feel uncomfortable about God’s sovereignty. He created life, so He can take life if He so wills. It’s different from when humans kill someone because God is the author of life.

@@aericabison23 is it though? I mean, yeah, if he created us then sure, he can take our lives, but doesn't that condradict the idea of him being all loving and benevolent? That sort of behaviour seems more in line with a mad scientist abusing his creations just becasue he can make more of them. Yet when a human does this we call them mad or insane or evil.

I keked

I loved your point of view about Rameses. I love both movies so much and watch them every Easter. And I always pick up new details that I didn't notice before. My husband and I were talking in depth about the characters, different scenes, which story is more heartbreaking (losing the woman you're in love with, and also your father vs. losing your brother), etc. I always thought of TTC Rameses as a flat-out jerk, as most everyone does, but there was a scene towards the end where he really showed how vulnerable he was...he was talking to Moses in the palace, and it was obvious that he had felt second best his entire life. He was the first born of Pharaoh ("I am the son of your own body") and by birthright, he should have been the next Pharaoh, no questions asked. But when Sethi opens it up to let Moses have a chance, because he loves Moses more than his own son, that cuts Rameses---yes, he wants the power and glory, but he also wants his father's love and respect, and he knows he is not the first choice. And with Nefretiri, I don't believe he loved her, but again, by birthright, she was supposed to marry the next Pharaoh, which was supposed to be Rameses outright. The facts that his father loved Moses more and that Nefretiri loved Moses more could be huge factors on why Rameses is how he is in TTC: he always felt second best to Moses (and Nefretiri goading him all the time doesn't help either.) This was the first time I saw things from his point of view, and it was definitely interesting. Yul Brynner was an amazing actor. Both movies are fantastic in their own ways! ❤️

“I’m content to be your son”

Unfortunately, an unwritten rule of 1950s Hollywood was that all male leads had to be strong and charismatic individuals, so there's really no way they could have done an accurate depiction of Moses at the time

surprisingly true, I know Christians and us Atheist don't see eye to eye as of late, but we can both sit down and enjoy this masterful movie.

I kind of have a love hate relationship with the story as an atheist not because of the story, but the tone of the story. Imagine for a moment someone imitated moses in modern egypt, including the killing of all the 1st born. Would you call that person a great moral figure of humanity? no... yet Moses is always portrayed as the good guy and Ramses as the bad guy, when in reality they both have reasonable positions and do monstrous things to archieve their positions. It almost feels dirty to root for Moses as the movies and original story want you too for that same reason, at least to me.

Moses doesn't enact any of the plagues though...

IAmDaDumb1 Well, he was the messenger for God so I guess thats a fair point, but then lets skip over Moses and go straight to the being he worked for in the story: God. My argument still applies, since God in this story is treated with such reverance and his actions are impied to be justified.

At the end of the day, this is a complicated issue and I'm not going to pretend to be an expert with the be-all end-all answers on this matter. However, there are a couple of things to keep in mind with this story. 1) While it is often used as a cop-out and I would honestly say should never be accepted as the final answer, there is the matter to keep in mind that God is simply a being of higher thinking than man is, and there are going to be instances like this that are troublesome for men to truly get a grasp on. Consider the difference between man's thinking and, say, a dog's. We all know how harmful chocolate can be to a dog, but the dog doesn't know that and doesn't even have the thinking capacity to know that. If there's some chocolate on the floor, the dog's level of understanding is only sophisticated enough to know that there is food on the floor and that they want to eat it. When you, operating out of superior understanding, recognize that the chocolate is going to harm the dog if they eat it, you know that you have to take that chocolate away despite the fact that the dog really wants to eat it. I've done this a few times before with my dog and every single time my dog gets upset with me and keeps trying to eat the chocolate, and I keep having to take it away from her because I know how harmful it would be to her even if she doesn't (and doesn't even have the capacity for knowing such a thing). While obviously there is a difference between "not giving your dog chocolate" and "killing every firstborn son in the entire land of Egypt" the same principle still applies. Think about the difference in intellect between a man and a dog, then think about the difference in intellect between a man and a being who literally knows everything there ever was or is to know in the entire created universe. Ultimately, this is a difference between worldviews. As an atheist, you operate out of the worldview that man is the being of ultimate reason and that his logic is the epitome of reason and understanding in the universe. As a Christian, I operate from the worldview that God is the being of ultimate reason and that his logic is the epitome of reason and understanding in the universe. When I see God do something that seems odd through the perspective of human reasoning, there is a level to which I accept that my thinking is lesser to His (although, I am still an advocate that we should seek to learn and understand God as much as limited reasoning will allow, and that such an idea should never be used as a cop-out). However, as an atheist, you see God operate in a manner that seems odd to human reasoning and, believing mankind as the ultimate authority, see this as a sign that God is contradictory or illogical. Ultimately, for the purposes of this specific conversation, I would ask that you be willing to empathize with a worldview in which God is the ultimate being of intellect and reason. Otherwise, there's really no point in continuing the matter, since a secular worldview is always going to see God in this way and, as such, any justification given for Him is going to be mute in your eyes anyway. 2) Moving on, it is also important to remember that God would have been perfectly fine with not enacting any of these plagues...if Pharaoh had been willing to listen to Him. God wanted the Israelites to be free and, one way or another, it was going to happen. If Pharaoh had respected God's wishes and released the Hebrews from the get-go, life in Egypt would have gone on as normal afterwards. Even from an atheistic worldview, one has to acknowledge that Pharaoh is at least partially responsible for the things that happened to Egypt. He saw examples of God's power and the extent to which He would go to free the Hebrews, yet he let his stubbornness and pride get the best of him and convince him to test God until He was forced to use more and more drastic measures. God started off with relatively harmless signs, He didn't skip straight to killing all of the firstborn. He gave Pharaoh plenty of opportunities to recognize God's doing and accept his command. Pharaoh was the one who kept refusing to respect God despite all the signs being given to him. God still operates the same way to this day. He never skips to the harshest punishment or the most extreme signs He can give out. He will always give you numerous chances to obey Him before He resorts to anything drastic. However, man is a stubborn and proud species, and sometimes loss and heartbreak are simply the only ways that he will be able to listen.

I'm agnostic atheist and it's easily one of my favorite animations

Right on! :D

+Tara Blackmore I'm a jew and it's one my favorites...wait.

Where do I send the internetz you've won, Brian? :D

+Tara Blackmore I swear I'm not being rude when I ask but, what do Pagans believe?

I get chills when I walk into a cold room

There are many more good religious movies than just Prince of Egypt! It's just that those movies are not getting much exposures as the secular ones. For instance, there are only three movies in history that won 11 Academy Awards, and one of them is a religious film (Ben-Hur)! A religious movie that can share an association with James Cameron's Titanic and LOTR Return of the King!

Andrew Chung Nobody talks about the DreamWorks movie about Joseph ._.

Oh, and speaking of Ben Hur, it was also the highest grossing movie of 1959, even outgrossing Walt Disney's Sleeping Beauty!

@@andrewchung2940 Not to mention LOTR Return of the King was written by a devout Catholic who brought many elements of his faith into his work.

Yeah focus on action and don’t alienate the people who are not of the faith and it can be great

False dilemma.

@@toferg.8264 What makes you think that?

@@anti-loganpaul7827 , an ability to be open minded, and not be brain washed by contemporary society and establishment. Vengeance is about equity a.k.a. getting even. God in his vengeance demanded infinite payment for sinning against him. God in his love, temporarily sacrificed his Son (who volunteered). His Son took our place, was a substitution, and took the vengeance aimed at us. And he could do so, because he wasn't God's "son" like any other creation is his son, but was his only begotten son. Humans have human sons. Dogs of dog sons. Hawks have hawk sons. God's Son was (and is) in very essence God, though he took on (added to himself) human nature, so as to live by example.

The Bible outright calls him a Jealous and Wrathful God in the First Testament; whatever justifications anyone can give him, he is regardless a violent deity that has claimed responsibility for the deaths of countless people in the Bible. I'm not even making judgement on his character or personality, these are just facts.

Por que no los dos?

+Jessica S. i don;t know how you expect to find an entire cast of middle eastern actors in 1956

+Wayne Ekeh Even today they'd whitewash it, I'm pretty sure of that...

Agathe Dallaire Again I doubt they'd be able to find an entire cast of competent middle eastern actors. They are a monrity in the US and therefore a minority in the film business. Meaning finding a whole cast of good middle eastern actors would be hard and sadly that would mean some white characters(or maybe hispanic i think they'd be able to pull it off) are casted

Yeah but Prince of Egypt was also animated.

True Egalitarian They can't be white there middle eastern most people are not white in the Middle East

*crowd PRINCE OF EGYPT!!!!!

Prince of Egypt wins

I'm not rooting for either, I just think it'd be a good vid ^^

Exodus lose sorry

I thought that was ehat this video would be at first

Gojirawars 03 I respectfully disagree.

Have you actually sat down and watched The Ten Commandments?

I agree

Did it have moses getting the 10 commands and crushing the golden cow it them NO IT DIDNT IT ENDS AT THE RE(e)D SEA

I Agree

In The Ten Commandments, God was voiced by two people. When God spoke to Moses in the form of the Burning Bush, that was Heston. When God was writing The Ten Commandments, that was Donald Hayne.

Thanks for the info!

Okay series, some good morals for kids, gets a little touchy depending on the publisher or translation, but the fanbase is just terrible.

+Smashwolf Lp's My first time, but I've watched all the others. When is 'time'? I need to be ready!

+Kendra Benoit Last November he uploaded the last commercial video, and I'm PRETTY sure that he uploaded the others sometime in November as well. Besides, I'm sure he wouldn't just spontaneously trash the concept of having a commercial episode every year.

+Smashwolf Lp's At the end of the Hocus Pocus thing, he ended it by slinging the I Donut Donut T-shirt over his shoulder and walks off.

+Jacob Hill So, most likely next week.

+Smashwolf Lp's yeah i've seen all the others as well, but this is the first time actually being here for the upload

As an atheist this just makes me want to point out that the rules on magic seem arbitrary dont they? "Magic is of the devil, except when I, God, use it".

I thought that the idea was that the snakes were just cheap tricks and normal snakes from nature, and what happened was God Snake > Natural Snake

+Alexander Greyling it's that way because using witchcraft is essentially humanity turning to the devil to try and emulate God's power. Miraculous works or "magic" as you would think of it is not bad in and of itself, since Jesus even actually calls his disciples to go out and perform miracles in his name, it's trying to do supernatural works in the name of the devil that is condemned by God

IAmDaDumb1 Ok, then that is still a contradiction. Either magic (or miracles or whatever) are just a tool and the judgement on if its good or bad is based on how the magic was used, or magic is just of the devil plain and simple except when God does it. Its sort of like me saying "Any person that uses a gun is a bad person, except when I and the people I give permision to use it, then its good and moral and so on". You cant realy have it both ways.

IAmDaDumb1 Actualy, isnt the "its bad because its trying to emulate God's power" thing kind of sound like a odd standart to set the rules on? Because if we bring it to its logical conclusion following the rules of the religion, our justice system is of the devil because we are trying to pass judgement on people, and that is a power that suposedly only God has. Theists even use the "only God can judge me" line from time to time. I'm not trying to insult or anything but its just that these are some mind bending contradictions from my point of view that people gloss over while taking very seriously.