Oliver Stone: Vladimir Putin and War in Ukraine | Lex Fridman Podcast  

Have a good week Lex !

Great interview ♥️♥️♥️

Why don't you talk about ISRAELI OCCUPATION SIR. IF RUSSIAN INVASION OF UKRAINE , WHY DON'T PEOPLE OF USA OPPOSE ISRAELI OCCUPATION ? Hypocrisy is the word for this phenomenal support of Usa Government.

@@shakebraza196 that's one point of view...everyone has their opinion

@@shakebraza196 Perhaps he does not have all the time to talk about everything that everyone cares about, or perhaps his guests are talking about certain topics, given the limited time they have. Oliver Stone could talk about multiple topics, they just have to choose what is interesting to him and current. I think that a 1000 interviews could be made just with the topic you are referring to. Blaming an interviewer for not choosing what you want to talk about, perhaps, not the right way...By the way, this can lead to WW 3, so it is a strong topic, perhaps stronger than others, although other topics might still be very interesting.

@@greg5023 should they have stayed and be prosecuted by criminals?

Snowden is hiding out in Moscow and is awfully quiet in the face of Russia's war crimes against the Ukrainians. His silence speaks volumes.

@@shafferd90 you and many others are mixing the terms a bit between War, Invasion, Special Operation, especially and deliberately in Western MSM media, it is the similar situation with mixing terms, when in Christianity for example, especially in the West, Jesus is God, and Jesus itself said he is "son of God" 😀 War=when two or more countries are shooting at each other for prolonged period of time, no matter if its a Full Invasion or Special Operation or whatsoever, so this in Ukraine is War between Russia and Ukraine (and proxy War between Russia and US/UK but thats another subject) however its not an Invasion, it is a Operation and that is as clear as a day. Invasion = when one country officially declares a war against other country or countries, and uses maximum available forces to destroy and fully invade that country, Operation (special or you name it) = War is not declared by the attacking Country against the attacked one, attacking country uses limited resources in order to achieve only specific goals without fully invading some country. For example, war between US and Vietnam during majority of time was more Special Operation than Full Invasion, War against Serbia in 99 was also a Operation and not a full invasion, War in Libya was a Operation and not an Invasion, War against Iraq on the other hand in 2003 was a full Invasion as there was no special objectives but total defeat and destruction of Iraq (aside the weapons of mass destruction 😉) and they succeeded I believe - 1milion deaths, mostly civilians unfortunately but it is what it is, WW2 of course was not an Operation of any kind, it was Germany, Japan and etc. Invasion on various countries across the globe. So practically its not correct that when those specific journalist in Russia say in public media that Russian actions in Ukraine are not a "War" but not a "Special Operation" which is an official statement and strategy of the country officials, those journalists are practically being hostile against its own country or are considered as such, especially in this kind of "be or not to be" situation Russia is. So War is always War, but there is a big difference between Invasion and Special Operation.

@@shafferd90 exposing American war crimes is apparently a crime in America as well, punishable by death.

Edward is in Moscow now and yet I don't hear him speaking out about Russian State crime. He is trapped and every day his outrage at the USA data gathering is losing it's inertia, big whoop. Now his real fear is Putin. He's a smart guy and he probably wonders if his Russian girlfriend is a plant and why does it all have to be so ironic. Edward is hollow - full stop.

He isn’t Russian he is one of those ethnic Jews who is anything at all but not Russian, as anti-Russian as it can be in fact..

That would be amazing! I love Kasparov

Kasparov is actually Azeri/Armenian which was part of the soviet union

Gary Kasparov is not Russian.

he already did

You should have told him he should have taken the blue pill.

If Dad is still alive, watch MERRILL'S MARAUDERS, BIG RED ONE, THE STEEL HELMET, and FIXED BAYONETS together.

@@beausie-woesieherewegoesie2548 no

So sorry. I miss my dad too.​@d3maccus

Russia during Gorbachev - peaceful relationship, peace dividend, Russia had sovereignty. Then he says US is denying Russia sovereignty when Putin is in charge. Problematic. Stone is on an island .

I miss my papa

@Al Coholic that's how it's shrugged off.

That's how it's shrugged off

@@dangdoldangdol9568 So who gets to measure “healthy and educate?”

Someone needs to read Plato's Republic. democracy is MOB RULE. You don't want to live in a democracy.

Yeah so true. Too bad Stone’s idol Putin kills anyone who criticizes him.

After you’re naming Medusa an “independent media” I could proceed reading this bullshit… I know personally these ppl, met them I live in riga as they do!

You're so right. Deeply dissapointed.

Respect that you can reflect intellectually...I’m 45 min in this interview and need a break from this Putin fan club...

Well said! I am not even Ukrainian and it was appalling even to me how much excusing he is doing to Russian Imperialism altogether, all the while, criticizing the US for the very same thing...? If you're looking at both sides, why not criticize both sides of the imperialism coin? And then somehow drawing loose parallels, that it is in fact, US imperialism that is somehow responsible for Russian imperialism? Absolutely laughable. The interview is good, and I'm glad Lex did it, but all in all, if I was Lex I would have challenged him more and pressed him to explain his positions and exactly what he means and why he means as he does. It just feels he's insensitive to all the people who were oppressed and suffered under USSR/Russian imperialism. The topic is UKRAINE invasion. Not Iraq etc invasions???? Seriously...

Thank you for your comment and I hope you are, and will continue to be, alright despite the shelling. Knowing that Oliver Stone is most likely a smart man, due to his amazing films, many of which I adore to death, one must wonder what the reasons behind him peddling Kremlin propaganda could be.

Wouldnt think so.

I would say not!

Correct analysis

All of stone is a propagandist, unfortunately. Brilliant movie maker. But total scumbag after re-watching this year and a half later. Total scumbag full of either lies or false beliefs. Is rather amazing.

He's a spineless sensationalist. I wouldn't trust him alone with my dog, let alone rely on him for political analysis

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Let them speak, but ask hard questions that show you have understood the situation yourself and not just a bullhorn for the extreme.

So just let people lie?

@@dagjohansen8641 whats he lieing about

@@dennisrodman8997 It is easier if you just tell us all what Stone is saying that is a proven truth.

Lmao

Yup. Elon's "Anchorman"

Biden loves his teleprompter... too much.🤣

Speech writers are trash too

If your going to quote someone you should write the person's name from who your quoting below the quote. In this case your quote is from Elon Musk.

sure, me too! they actually know each other, and live close to one another

That's a good one.....make it happen Lex

Oh god please no

RFK jr. is a zionist shill like all politicians in the U.S. are. He supports the people who killed his father and uncle and I find that despicable.

Stone is a charlatan

@@XerxesGammon200 A charlatan because the government told you so in their media? Don't smoke propaganda, think with your head, not your ass.

I appreciate Lex for that!

Yes

yeah, does he usually interrupt his guests then? because i don't appreciate that sort of so-called-journalism or info-tainment, haha...unless it's alex jones, that is:: alex doesn't need guests unless they're superduper powerful, and that happens fairly seldom... owen shroyer's apparently taken over now, which is a bit of a drag, tho he's good, he's no-alex-jones, but nobody is, man...

@@jackieann5494 well dang, jackie: {sorry, i say that to almost everyone, and they never appreciate it, ha ha, isn't that funny?}

@@SerbanTV i guess i don't get it tho: why would we expect him to be interruptin' folks: even lex luthor, had really good manners, y'know? oh, hey: i might ask, if you don't mind, do they not behave so well, then, in hell? {dang, jackie, ha ha}

it is nice to let ppl talk, however it would be great to confront ppl with truth and Stone obviously is not able to understand the problems in their complexity and thinks that there is a easy solution for everything, but imperialistic US government holds everything back. Good as cult religion but obviously far from reality.

@@pumahuhu365, the only reason Oliver stone sees Putin that way it’s because he always gets the blame in the west, Putin move in Ukraine is purely defensive you need to know what happened 4 months before Russia moved to Ukraine.

Interview would have been more interesting with some tough questions and rebuttals. He basically brought him on to spew Russian propaganda. Pretty much nothing Oliver said was news. This is what you will hear in Russian State TV. He is just parroting most of it. Funny he has such a problem with propaganda and corruption, but not on the Russian side. Completely dishonest individual.

He started one thing that is important about Putin and if you pay close attention to Putin you will see Oliver Stone is right he said Putin always comes with fact contrary to what we have in the west.

@@vladimirthenailer2035 In Russia we feel a world a little bit different. i dont know why it leads to war with europe every 100 years LUL

Can you please point out with what you disagree and why. Thank you...

You don't believe Ukraine is full of Nazis... and they attacked the Donbass for 8 years before the invasion.

Yeah. Please explain why you disagree with he's way of seeing things

I also disagree with much that Mr. Stone espouses, but I found the interview interesting. He doesn’t acknowledge that Communism is, at its core, a system that creates a society of servitude. Compare that with the founding principals of the US, which fundamentally gives each individual the right to choose his/her own path, to prosper, or not. Stone seems to gives less governmentally-moral countries a pass, but doesn’t do so for his own. He has always made his living off of pointing-out what he believes to be the flaws of America. I also think that he mischaracterizes Putin, as if he were someone to admire. In reality, I believe that Putin is a cold-blooded killer. Just ask the great majority of Ukrainians.

I feel that Mr Stone has an unbound capacity for introspection and that that is worthy and admirable - to better understand the need to express humanity at every juncture.

What has shaped your views on Putin? What Putin himself says and does, or what the Western media say about him and how do they "interpret" what he said?

@@lanija19 On Putin or anyone - it is what they do. There may be some truth in his accusations of NATO expansion but Eastern European countries have chosen to join NATO because of his aggression. He invaded Ukraine and is the aggressor. In human history there has been no other person that has threatened human existence as he has. Western countries like the US have blood on their hands but he has threaten use of nuclear weapons which has always been a deterrent and assured mutual and global destruction. If Putin were to launch a nuclear attack even a so-called tactical use, that would be suicide and if it resulted in mass extinction - he will become the most infamous human that ever lived. I really don't have much regard for any form of media. There is a very thin line between what we have called media and social media. There is such a radical polarization of views, we have lost the moderate and logical center and the fringe of lies and conspiracy theories is now the air people breathe. Earth is not flat and there is no flat political spectrum, it is a sphere - you go far enough left or right and you end up in the same place and most people left and right are on the dark side of that political moon.

@@lanija19 perhaps the fact that he invaded Ukraine and killed tens of thousands of people?

@@TheSteinbitt It is the Kiev regime that had killed more than ten thousand civilians in Donbass before Russia intervened. The war there started in 2014.

@@lanija19 Russia “intervened” in both Donbas and krimea with their “little green men” annexing krimea and creating a rebellion and separatist movement in Donbas. What would Russia have done if Ukraine started helping opposition “liberate” Kaliningrad? Stood by idle? Lol

He would love to do that but he was banned by their government

No, he wouldn’t because I would require him to get both sides of a story, men like this, or not interested in that they’re only interested in reinforcing their own bias believe.

putin puppet doesn't like to face reality

@@AnthonyBlamthony I don't think you're right here. Mr Stone has very specific view on the American government and politics in general. He has a bit of communists views as far as I can tell. In fact, communism is not a bad thing at all, it is, however, very prone to corruption and dictatorship. That is why he took interviews of several dictators. But what I think he doesn't realize is that these dictators are extremely charismatic and persuasive. In combination, these 2 qualities can make you believe that a cow is a rat.

​@@ddal3998You just poorly explained why the person you were responding to was right.

What makes you say that?

@@Meloncholymadness 28:44. Oliver Stone mentions that sovereignty of nations is crucial for international stability. He mentions Venezuela, Iran, China, and Russia as sovereign states. But he doesn't mention Ukraine. So my question is this: in Oliver Stone's eyes, is Ukraine also a sovereign nation? Apparently, all countries are sovereign in Oliver Stone's eyes, except for the ones he doesn't like.

@@yuzhonglu He does say at some point that is is, Ukraine and America have antagonised this war in my opinion and it's becoming more and more clear.

@@Meloncholymadness Your Honor, that woman forced me to rape her. I had no choice.

What's your opinion on Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Granada, Nicaragua, Chile etc invaded or interfered with by US actions. Are they sovereign nations?

Yeah, it's really annoying, considering how much I respect Oliver Stone. He hardly criticizes Russia for anything. I get it , US is not perfect. I would still pick getting invaded by the US over Russia any day of the week.

And he is right about doing it. Very wise. Bringing American standards to Russia or Russian standards to America is a recipe for disaster.

Now think about how mainstream American media applies different, sometimes polar-opposite, standards to the US and any other country it sees “unfriendly” or potentially a competitor (hence a “threat”), on a DAILY basis. Then think about how the majority of American people form their world view almost entirely on that. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@@vivianms3721 Putin is unfriendly and a threat to any free thinking Russian

@@Rohonin If you knew how absurd your comment is you wouldn't have posted it. 'US is not perfect' is the most ridiculous understatement i've ever heard, and it could only be uttered by someone who doesn't actually know the history of this young nation. The US has been responsible for more death, destruction and conflict than any other modern nation and the deep-state, CIA and military-industrial complex are rightly considered by most of the world to be completely evil scum. I don't use the word 'evil' here lightly.

Yup. Same thing with me

Great director, blatant putinphile and propagandist.

Except for him praising Putin, which is a complete load of shit.

Thank you 😊

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Nice job. Ty. You should send this to the Duran email & maybe they can implement you're handy work. 💁‍♂️🍻

and 31.45

Thanks

That's a sick quote. Depressing though haha

Oliver Stone blaming neoconservatives for the war in Ukraine and other USA war "operations" around the world is laughable; as if is wasn't Joe Biden signing for the $40 billions to go to Ukraine, as if is not Pelosi and the company pushing for this war, as if the Democrats are no running the USA right now, as if it wasn't Obama and Hillary waging some of the wars in the Middle East and Libya . And what is wrong with Oliver Stone ? How nuts can he be , voting for the demented Biden? He did not see that Biden was senile? Trump has not gotten in any war but Biden is going to take USA to war with China , next.

@@kelvinlewis3947 Emotional discharge you have.

From The Ministry of Truth War is peace Freedom is slavery Ignorance is strength - George Orwell 1984

@@kelvinlewis3947 Yes, depressing but true.

The US and other Democracies are criticized ad nauseum, I have no idea what Stone is on about here.

Isn’t it funny how dictators can be so honest and gentle with a star film maker and yet have jails filled with political prisoners and dissidents?

You mean like Assange?

in belgium they censored Russia Insight, Russia Today, and a lot of people support censorship.

@@rdalge And what do you think the Democratic Party tried to do to Trump? Just because they failed doesn't make them different from any autocracy or dictatorship.

LOL!

1 minute clip will get you a lifetime of fox news

It's depressing how often "stop mindlessly accepting everything the MSM tells you" becomes "start mindlessly accepting everything this alternative media source tells you".

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Well said. Great voice for a podcast. Great interviewer . A pleasure to listen and learn.

Wow!

You're account is 3 weeks old.

@@bengaisford3304ad hominem attack doesn’t add to discussion my friend

Sorry you must be brainwashed because everything he said was true

Totally agree, please don't talk about Donbas crimes from 2014, a disillusioned rhetoric

@@nataliavasluian7747 you are disillusioned and indoctrinated clearly

I am shocked by his lies and excuses. Besides, nothing, absolutely nothing that Oliver said about Donbass is true. He only quotes Russian propaganda as if it was programmed. On the contrary, Ukrainians in Donbas, where they are in the majority, have been discriminated against, killed and raped since 2014. Also, the number of dead he mentions is the number of soldiers killed on both sides in that conflict since 2014.

He was the creator of Ukraine, he took a part of land which was called " Kievan Rus' " to create Ukraine, in that process he has killed the whole Russian royal family Romanov including their six children , burned and looted more than 1000 of churches and killed 11 millions of people, that is how Ukraine was created.

@@vinkywink Lenin did NOT create Ukraine. That is Putin lies. And Ukraine as a name for that region existed from at least around 16th century, way before Russia existed as "Russia".

@@oslickbarn3077 You should read about Romanov family, Kieven Rus and etc and please enlight me in which document before 1922. Ukraine was mentioned as independent state and not as part of imperial Russia.

@@vinkywink In Fourth Universal of the Ukrainian Central Council, for example.

I found he was all over the place with his thoughts. Scatter gun desperation trying to flip the narrative of Russia being the aggressor, the initiator of this war.

report to which there was a reference in this interview stated opposite - most ceasefire violations before 24 February are from non-government-controlled region (see proof below). In Luhansk region, the SMM recorded 1,182 ceasefire violations, including 1,075 explosions (173 outgoing, 52 impacts and 850 undetermined). The majority of ceasefire violations were recorded west, north-west, and south-west of Kadiivka (formerly Stakhanov, non-government-controlled, 50km west of Luhansk) as well as inside and near the disengagement areas near Stanytsia Luhanska (government-controlled, 16km north-east of Luhansk) and Zolote (government-controlled, 60km west of Luhansk). Link: www.osce.org/files/2022-02-23%20Daily%20Report_ENG.pdf?itok=57816 (page 3)

I agree there was a fair amount that was hard to listen to, and the Putin apologism is frankly just saddening and angering considiering Mariupol, Bucha, Iprin and every city attack by the Russian invaders

What about the 40 Russian speaking protesters who beaten, shot and burn alive in the trade union building in Odessa by Ukrainian fascists in 2014, all well documented even on RU-vid. Putin promised to bring the nneo Nazis to justice, plus the mass graves in eastern Ukraine, villagers with their heads chopped off by the Ukrainian army.

I think you've been blinded by your patriotism just like I have in the past

He gives me market researcher vibes, except he gets to ask questions about genuinely interesting things and have more of a real insightful conversation as opposed to having to rush through certain talking points.

Apart from letting Roger Stoned uninterruptedly give a warped Putin centric view of the world, sometimes even when letting people speak you should call them out, it's healthy.. But Lex himself seems biased towards Russia anyway so maybe he just quietly completely agrees with this whacko.

I absolutely agree with you. Lex Fridman was as mesmerising as Oliver Stone. I will certainly follow Lex from now on.

Very hypnotic those two toads... Wonder if theyre on LSD

Russia takes $720,000,000 / day from EU for gas supply There is no other choice but nuclear, to stay competitive, which means most advanced. No future as a world leader without nuclear, unless u own all the oil.. Ukraine is target for oil / gas reserves, easily dominating EU delivery once on line. Methane may be catalytically converted to H, is a preferred fuel in SpaceX rocket launch, who exactly is in control of US ..those same who led all wars.. Ballot box ? Ha

Who is willing to cut a piece of his own ❤? Way to many, to include women. Women are rising and taking male roles in many powerful leadership positions. Greed, money, and power has overtaken humanity. It is not working and it will never work. It's unfolding right before our very eyes in real time.

Second that. Such a powerful line

Most ppl try to cut out the evil part in others hearts instead, or their perceived evil.

@@pite9 Hurt people, hurt other people.

@@pite9 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.” (Matthew 7: 3)

It's almost like he took a different version of history class

He is right polish army as i know once occupied Moscow en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Lithuanian_occupation_of_Moscow

Yeah, turned this one off at that point. Big fan of Lex, but Stone is so focused on "America bad" that he's making up his own alternate world history.

He was talking about poland being anti russia.

He's acting in bad faith. I'm just happy it's so easily recognizable this time. Practicing critical thinking requires exposure to dumb propaganda so you can catch out smarter approaches.

They did sometimes in history though, they even managed to occupy moscow

@Myname Isunavailable NO en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War#:~:text=The%20Polish%E2%80%93Soviet%20War%20(late,and%20the%20Austro%2DHungarian%20Empire.

@Myname Isunavailable It was invaded, but most of the territory that Soviets annexed was basically a reconquest of the territory that Poland took from the Russian empire previously.

@@xmyxymx Bullshit. Russia have had wars btw 1000 -- 1900: dozen times with mongols, dozen times with Lithuania, several times with Baltic germans/estonians, ca 5 times with Sweden, ca 6 times with Turkey. In 17th century Polish kings were asked by russians to govern Russia but there were internal struggle between Poles, so it did not work. Poland has never claimed lands from Russia, thats bullshit.

@@julius43461 what territory?

Yup, that's how that all went down. Poland attacking Russia. Definitely.

There is ‘something’ wrong with Stone

Oliver “ Stoned” is how Gerald R. Ford viewed him, I tend to agree.

I found this statement confusing as well. He clearly had a warped view of world history. He must have forgotten how many times Poland has been invaded and occupied in just last couple centuries.

It's true they were constantly in war. He meant the Lithuania Poland commonwealth up to 19 century, Poland and Russia were 2 powerhouses in those times in Europe. There were many clashes, especially in 1609 and 1792.

This is making the whole interview not worth listening to. This guy has absolutely no idea about history. Later on just repeating official russian propaganda. So sad...

Can't agree more! during WWI, Poland didn't even exist as an independent entity (and neither did Ukraine). During WWII, Nazis and Soviets were best buddies until '41 and split Poland together, so when Nazis invaded the Soviet Union, occupied Poland happened to be the territory where the two totalitarian regimes agreed to have border. Stone's phrasing makes it sound like Poland and Ukraine somehow had something to say about where the attack on Russia/Soviet Union was happening from...

Ironic that Trump gets a pass. I wonder why

Noticed the same but wasn't surprised. Stone is the biggest Russia apologist in the west. Earlier in the pod he said that nuclear is safe (true enough, sure) because only 50 people died in the Chernobyl disaster, which is a hilariously stupid Soviet statistic that is only true in the narrowest possible sense.

Bonkers. Incoherent ramblings at this point. He made some good movies at his time though.

Lex is super unlikely, man!

he’s way too biased to have an honest discussion

Zelensky is not fighting for sovereignity. Zelensky is a trapped puppet. You have no idea what is going on here.

feel free to explain how "sovereignty" is a blank check license to pursue with impunity any policy that has major implication on the geopolitical level and not provoke a response from other impacted nations? where is that written? sounds like you're describing unilateralism, not sovereignty.

He didn't brush it off. He answered plain and simple that you can't be fighting for something you haven't had since 2014. Ukraine lost it's sovereignty the moment it accepted a foreign backed cue. And I'll add even more. What sovereignty you can be fighting for, when all the money you have received for your "fight" you will have to pay with your land, natural resources and public held companies?? You won't have sovereignty, even if you "win" the war.

@@MargaritaKatrenko and zelenski just announced the sale of what is left of his country to blackr0ck and g0ldman-$achs

Precisely. There were talks during Jacques Chirac's presidency for a comeback of France to the "integrated commandment" (which implies resuming its annual financial contribution to NATO budget) in the 1990s. Chirac was ready to come back, but he asked for the removal of the US sixth's fleet ships from the Mediterranean sea. The US refused, and thus it was postponed to 2009, four years after Sarkozy succeeded to Chirac.

Was it because the CIA tried to kill DeGaulle?

Yep, and some French people, count me in, does not see our involvement in the military command as a good thing. There's one country leading the command and all others forced to follow. There are some discrepancies between the Atlantic alliance interests and the UE interests.

I thought after Libya France wanted to step down from Nato leading role in Europe or at least not be forced to send troops on "democracy" missions.

@@datmesay right, you guys just hide while US AMERICANS pay for and fight for the rest of the world's freedom... all good we got this

I completely adore Lex Fridman -- have spent Days listening for every available hour of the days, and cannot Get Enough. Btw, Lex, I give Magnifient Massages. Just FYI.

@@theresahanford179 Theresa, I think I'm smarter and better looking than Lex. What are you doing on Friday?

​@@martinda7446😂😂

Important point from Lex,, he doesn't interrupt much, he let his guests talk...

EXACTLY!!! That was what I was referring to in my second from the top of the page overly lengthy post! Stephen Kotkin has devoted his entire lengthy ‘political history professional career’ to the ‘study of Russian leaders’ and has huge amounts of fact from huge amount of other experts that have ‘much closer long time close associates of Putin and the direct ‘result’ of Putin’s action, not his talk. It sounds it sounds trite, but REAL-TIME “actions speak louder than words”! Stone’s accretions that Putin’s statements, and Stone’s belief that if Putin said it so convincingly, it must be right and therefore all the U.S. intelligence experts were wrong, sounds so similar to former President Trump’s statement at their Helsinki, Finland Summit during the first year of the Trump presidency! For anyone to have an unbiased opinion on Stone interview, it would only be prudent to listen to the same interviewer interview lifelong soviet/Russian leadership expert Stephen Kotkin re: Putin! Additionally, I have witnessed many others that have studied Putin, with all agreeing with Kotkin extremely closely and absolutely none with Stone! Again, Stone is an extremely gifted filmmaker, but we can see what an extraordinarily skilled electric automobile & spacecraft expert can do to destroy a top internet company with Mr. Musk. Being an expert in one field of endeavor does not translate to all other fields of endeavor!!! Again, apologies for my composition and grammatical errors, as it is difficult for me to push a grocery cart and dictate coherently at the same time! Hell, l can’t even chew chewing gum and walk at the same time!😊

Of course....Mr. Kotkin would run circles around him of course and Stone would have to have the capacity to listen really listen and be prepared to have to revamp his entire thinking about the Soviet Union...its history and its crimes.

@@tomdouglassicks4748 lol kotkin is a historian stone is a filmmaker. Put him up against Alexander Mercouris, Mark Sleboda or Brian Berletic and they would absolutely slap him across the room lol

@@marcuslarsson9548 -Stephen Kotkin is a populist and defender of America which is not and never was - he is what the fascists were

You don’t get what get he is trying to say.

That’s the whole point. Don’t interrupt the interviewee and hear him/her out. Discover what’s in there without interrupting the flow. This is what makes Lex such a great interviewer.

@@anonymous.youtuber the point is to challenge the person who you interviewing. He doesn't do that at all.

​@@TheKrankHead That's a debate, not an interview.

How to make institutions that are vulnerable to this more stringent on vetting personnel?

@@fauxguyfawkes6156 Checks and Balances

Now go to #289

hugs and kisses from Italy xo

@maria martin: please watch "Ukraine on Fire" by O. Stone on youtube

#289 Watch it. Its good

@@cneuhauser1 deservedly so, on account of them starting two wars WITH THE WORLD

@@MathieuDuponchelle They blamed Germany for WWI, but anyone who's studied it will understand that Germany was just scapegoated for it. The bloody thing started in Eastern Europe. Germany is only responsible for starting WWII. But unlike the Japanese, they've apologized for it, and they've made Nazism and Holocaust denial illegal. Germany today is not a threat.

@@MathieuDuponchelle are you really sure about that though ?

@@MathieuDuponchelle how did my country start World War 1? Care to explain?

@@Dan-sw8tg Formally, Germany did declare war first. My comment was however a Norm MacDonald reference so just chill your horses you misguided patriot.

Great comment! Thank you!!!

The Kenyan ambassador probably needs to educate himself that Russia began as Kievan Rus with the capital in Kiev. The Viking tribe Rus gave its name to the country. If there is colonialism, it must come from the Vikings. Please forward this to the Kenyan ambassador along with my regards.

@@nikolaishmelev7837 Nah, the Vikings were invited, even asked to rule over the different groups along the rivers that was constantly in war with each other. That is at least according to the chonicles of the monks. And the word Rus is more to do with Men who rows, and not a tribe from Scandinavia. Its basically the same as Viking, which is not a word for a people but for an action, to go viking. And my beginning was a bit ironic, invaders are always invited, always has been, or come to save....

@@nikolaishmelev7837 the Kenyan ambassador is nothing more than a coattail rider trying to take advantage of a situation

@@svenhanson398 bear in mind that those medieval chronicles were written centuries after and were comissioned by the ruling princes (the Ryuriks) who has to justify the onset of the dynasty. So, i am not sure if we can take the invitation claim seriously. The origin of the word Rus is contested, there are many theories. Naming a tribe or a group of people by their main ativity was quite common. Many Slavic tribes bear such names.

That's probably because he has some understanding of the Minsk Agreement, and the history of US reluctance to support.

You know about his documentary and Putin interview series? The documentary Ukraine on fire, you can find it on rumble. Everywhere else it gets taken down.

It’s nice to hear a stable voice on the matter. Oliver knows the facts so he gets it right.

Objectivity.

well he cannot bite the hand that feeds him, he need putin in his future docs

Lex just nods for "yes". He is on Russia's side.

Yea Oliver seems to have something in his eyes when watching soviet/russia, just ignoring the secret police violations on their own population as if thats ok, thats "their" way of doing things. No that is not right, people under the rule of dictators are hostages, they say and do strange things to not be in the spotlight and risking their lives..

There are many hundreds of years and countless wars between Russia and Poland

Whoa...'as far as I remember back to another century' lol...yet many here are somehow saying Stone isn't a crackpot

It would be great, if director and producer directed and produced instead of showing, that he has zero knowledge about any other world matters, including world's history. Yet he speaks, and shows what moron he is.

Brainwashed like trump’s MEGA’s. They just love Putin and he can do no wrong.

Maybe not. I get that. And I believe here’s why: We have so boogie manned the Russian that as a correction Like a pendulum He’s swinging back the other way. But I know exactly what you say. Also. As bad as we are at it on the west we can somewhat handle criticism. In Russia. That don’t fly. Never had. Tzars / Lenin/ Stalin …. Most of rest. Very dangerous game to speak up in that world. And now it’s getting that way here

America and Canada aren't Police states?

@ErkkiPalmu - Your view of Russia is what your corrupt media has made you think. Look closer to home if you want to see a fascist police state.

It’s is lol. Neo- Nazis. Check western facts

It's bs but yeah. Having a nazi group doesn't mean it's a nazi state. The president is a jew for christ sake. You don't think they have nazis in Russia. Guess they are a nazi state then

AZOV.

he isn't completely off. My family fled the state for that reason to Central Asia and never came back.

@@itr8247 how nazi is that?

Yes, he’s a gifted interviewer which appears to be rooted in the idea of humility and that he thinks he’s not a good interviewer

This video made Lex Fridman’s Russian bot audience very happy

He looks very dead and soulless, hes like every other corporate, dead inside and just doing his job for the sake of money, no charisma or anything.

Say hello to my little friend

Any Western media, or spokes persons are found to have been receiving payments from Russia to sow discontent and undermine Western support for Ukraine, should face trial as traitors when the war in concluded

Different man back then. Now Oliver Stone is a nut.

@@channelname1700 Telling truth seems crazy to ignorant

@@1985truthseeker what truth? This interview was just speculation. Point to one part of the interview where Stone give evidence to his claims. You can’t

Yep, he is too comfortable hanging with Putin and his pals. His obit my be: he did some great movies, but then he got fat.

That's quite right, and the great thing about Western democracy is that he has the right to express that opinion, which is a far cry from the authoritarian regime he professes to love.

What do you know about authoritarian? Just repeating west propaganda? It would be very democratic if we could hear his and others opinions on main news stations. Alas. We only hear one narrative. Wonder why….

@@vw6751 You can get whatever narrative you want in the West... you only get one in that country - why don't you go live live there if you love it so much.

@@Coconautifywhat are you, five years old? That is what little kids do: you don’t like the way I play in this sandbox, go to your own sandbox. You have not learned in kindergarten.

Yeah, its wild to see this overcompensation while trying to view his nation objectively. Mr. Stone you overshot the mark.

Yup

I agree. Clearly Stone has a bit of a blindspot when it comes to Putin. My jaw dropped when Stone said Putin had the support of the people and that there was no way he could remain in power without popular support, despite the fact that the security services in Russia are more numerous than during soviet times. I knew that something was wrong when Stone said Putin couldnt be a wealthy man because he didnt act or live like one.

It's odd to hear Stone occasionally try to balance his opinion then way overstep onto Putin's side with comments that seem very naïve. I don't think he made a very supportive case for his seemingly favorable view of Putin. It was interesting to hear Stone's personal history about his father being a staunch Russia hating republican. So surreal to experience such a drastic turn in political viewpoint over a generation.

there is a track record

Well said..

@@joannewilson6577 whole of west has block RT . Journalism is too much for west ?

I agree he has a definite bias. He really hates US imperialism. And as a result he doesn’t address the sins of Russia. At the same time however the anti Russia pro US view is everywhere, without counter balance. I think some counter balance is healthy for discussion.

@@frankbutcher2601 I’m not understanding your point, what do you mean?

Yeah we did! And there's a lotttttt to do more.... Environment is not only about Nuclear, Coal or Oil. They only talk about this stuff because that's where the big $$ is (speculating.. a bit). There's many many other variables to take care off. And I'm still not buying this nuclear energy deal! I don't know those Green Political parties because they all seem like puppets of big corporations or something. They never say anything right, their level of knowledge is dubious at best, I don't see credentials, I don't see their work anywhere, etcetcetc. Actually it seems more of the oil business rhetoric that has been fed to us for decades... Nuclear is not exactly clean and not exactly safe. Yeah for the most part is clean and safe but then there's the other opposite... And that's a BIG opposite. People barely speak about Fukushima and Chernobly for example... Fukushima was close to the Ocean... You telling me that the disaster didn't contaminated the water? Chernobly is STILL under disaster management... Nobody talks about the range of the disaster. Is the water clean?? Is the land safe?? What's the range of the contamination btw?? Last time I was educated on the subject, radiation can last thousands of years and spread veryyyy far. And Oliver Stone here saying that the world should go nuclear.... Yeah that's like dousing the world in gas, expecting that we don't get hit by a solar flare or something... Flammable. And with this war atmosphere.... Who can tell that madmen don't target Nuclear power plants just to gain an advantage over the enemy. Or a simple terrorist attack! Hell, even in 1st world countries there's people that shoot someone or blow up buildings. So, there's NOTHING "completely safe" even if it gives the appearance to be safe

Please help protect Thacker Pass Nevada

Nuclear power plants are problematical- especially on earthquake faults, or near them. Case in point: Fukushima-3 nuclear meltdowns, their robots melted/ malfunctioned to even be able to see/ monitor the exploded landscape. There are so many huge vats of radiated water, that they have to start dumping hundreds of thousands of tons of the radiated water into the Pacific. They hope to have it under control in 40 years. These were only nuclear power plants for energy.

That is sometimes required, LibertyMatrix. As an urban planner, I met many types of environmentalists, from the geniuses who thought up the Citizens Growth Management Initiative to the guy who offered us getting his environmentalists to go away for a fee. Even my favorite had a taxidermized desert tortoise that he carried in a bag to pose in the foreground of his slide presentations. I thought that was smart. There are risks to any energy source. If one zooms out and looks at all the factors that influence the future, the risks in disposing of nuclear waste are minimal compared to stopping these wars over energy or global warming. We might develop a better way to do things someday but appear to be on a speeding train.

When you redirect the humid CO2 rich exhaust from burning methane gas… into a greenhouse growing facility… everything starts to grow exponentially faster. And methane gas can be eternally produced by organic waste and your own 💩 and of the mix. So seriously 😐 how fake is the premise for this interveiw? Even in the movies he is claimed to be a controlled opposition (tjeck mil gibsons resume fx) All methane gas (that is produced whether you want it or not from your leftovers/garbage of Living (organically)) when burned is reduced to 1/10th of the “greenhouse effect) .. and on low ground (not airplanes fx) it’s absorbed quickly by plants 🌱 growing directly from it. Burning methane to run electricity generators can run the DeFi crypto verse and if you like… like all the flares from excess harvesting natural gas on the oceans asf.. can drive hydrolysis and produce hydrogen fuel og the leftovers. It’s the biggest curse in human history to repeat the fallacy that methane is bad! Serious WAKE UP ⬆️.. it’s our biggest back into the cycle of organic life that we got. The more methane burned and exhaust to plants and mushrooms the more and bigger fruits and edibles you’ll get. Unfortunately my IP address is known by the system.., and probably almost no one will even receive to read this. So where does that leave you… if You do?

Taking eastern Europe

@@cooldudecs lol what? another western media shit

Stone is merely parroting the Kremlin, note that no one knows what Russia's objectives are, hence you know who the propagandists are from this statement alone

It was subjugating the whole of Ukraine.

World wide conquest. Bolshevism from Vladivostok to Lisbon. Always has been their stated goal.

People are dumb and they will die coz of original sin. 3rd world war is last 2.5y and still people are sheeps.

First plan on the new world order Georgia Guidestones is for 93% of all people to be disappeared. (That includes blacks, whites, Mexicans, earlier inhabitors, Asians, Christians...and even most Democrats.) Isaiah 65:12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not. 2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. John 1:5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

Gabriela Jimenez was videoed saying she was enslaved and saw people eating people. She looked sad, disgusted and in shock as she moved her hands to her mouth while explaining how they were eating. She said they smelled like humans. She said billionaire Carlos Slim knew about it. Police took her away and I've read she was never seen again. Gabriela was a little frantic, as would be anybody, and why is she missing now? I've seen at least 4 other people telling of the billionaire crowd doing the above kind of activities. God's own people were doing Satanism often in the Old Testament. He slaughtered many and booted the rest out of the promised land. He said he would bring them back one day and they would worship him. They recently got their land back but their billionaires are still aligned with the devil.

@@clickhereforshowittoothers2184 nice shitpost bot

@@Pixelkip I'm for rep -a - rat -ions too.When will you ultra dark people finally pay us?

What are you talking about, all I see is someone hating that Putin is a good man

Not the same thing. None of those countries are democracies, therefore they would be wrong to form an alliance. NATO is perfectly legitimate because the countries involved are democracies, end of story. Russia and Putin need to get with the goddamn picture and democratize or be a pariah, as they should be.

@alexanderwelch9009 not only are you almost completely wrong with everything you posted, but it doesn't even address the point. Lack of democracy has nothing to do with it. Canada is a democracy, at least in theory, but if they joined into, or were even trying to join into, a defensive alliance with all of our enemies, they would be invaded so fast that you would experience time travel.

@alexanderwelch9009 all buy one of the countries I named, have some form of democratically elected governments. The last one has elections. They are just sham elections. Like the ones increasingly prevalent in the "democratic" west. Shows how much you know.

@@nickhumphreys3160 I’m assuming you’re using as Canada an analogy for Ukraine potentially joining NATO. 1) If Ukraine wants to join NATO, they’re perfectly entitled to do so. Russia should have no say if its neighbor wants to join into a legitimate alliance. 2) Ukraine didn’t even join NATO, and Russia invaded anyway-proving Kiev’s point about their security concerns and pushing them closer to the West 3) As for the analogy, if Canada joined with all those countries, it would considered a legitimate threat because those are all hostile, authoritarian countries. NATO is only a threat to Russia if Russia acts aggressively. All the condemnation Russia has received is well deserved. I’m starting to think you’re the one who has no idea what you’re talking about

@@alexanderwelch9009 1) Just like Canada would be free to join a military alliance with Russia and China and whoever else they want. It wouldn't stop the US from invading them though, just like it didn't stop Russia. They wouldn't tolerate an openly hostile country on their border anymore than Russia would. 2) They were only trying to, begging to... with plenty of people in a position to know, saying it was eventually going to happen.... NATO had been arming them for almost a decade before Russia ever invaded. But sure, they totally weren't going to join... 3) Any opposing alliance is just as valid, if not more so, than NATO. You people act like world history started in 2021...Nato's borders have been encroaching on Russian territory for 30 years. Russia invaded in a pre-emptive military action to stop a genocide of Russian speaking people in the Donbass. 16k+ people, mostly civilians had already been killed(with weapons' and training supplied by NATO) by the NAZI's. Russia finally had enough and put an end to it. They are absolutely the good guys in this conflict. It isn't even debatable.

hello charlie, I'm from the opposite side of the planet - relatively close to the war. I always had a ton of respect for Oliver Stone, he educated me on quite a few stuff. that's why I tuned in for this podcast, to hear him talk about the war and his insights. But to put it bluntly, this time around, Mr. Stone has no clue what he's talking about, so don't take him at face value. Russia staight up attacked Ukraine and is comminting war crimes there daily, tying up civilians and executing them, shelling public apartment buildings and.. executing even their own soldiers for treason, if they protest in listening the orders - becuase a big chunk of russian soldiers were being lured into the battlefield under an assumption it's just a military training. at the beginning, vast majority of them didn't have a clue they are crossing a country boarders and will have to fight for their lives in no time. And as of now, the rest of the army - as well as most of the Russian population, they live in a complete lie. They've been lied to for decades now, surrounded by propaganda everywhere.. TV, radio, newspaper, social media.. they pretty much see the world upside down. And sadly, Oliver Stone is spreading a piece of it right on this podcast. Please do your own research on the matter, if you don't believe me.... Finally, even tho Vietnam war has nothing to do with me, I've been always fascinated by it. So let me say - thank you for your service and I wish you a good health. Cheers from the Czech Republic.

@@martincapek96 Mr. Stone isn't really denying the reality of the war right now, but he (like some others) believes that the West put Russia into a corner where they somewhat legitimately perceived themselves as having no other choice (disagree with that description if you want but that is the level of debate which needs to be discussed not whether Russia is committing war crimes which it horribly is).

@@martincapek96 wow, what a bunch of straight brainwashed rant...😐 Don't forget about russian soldiers eating ukranian newborn babies for breakfast 😁

@@watching99134 The sad part is that russia always "feels" and "perceives" shit from the west but never feels for it self. While claiming you have a seperate civilization as they claim always, they never "feel" for themselves. They have aaaall the time in the world to fix their country but never do. In contrary always trying to terrorize neighbouring countries (which did not have a great time under their rule) I am Georgian, I know 5 languages and I am very curious about history and philosophy. Everytime I look at russia it is doing something horrible, not that west is ok, but everytime I need to "choose" , I choose west. Its very sad actually, not the choosing but the ideologies and realities.

I had a Russia language teacher from grusia back in 1979 and up to today I remember her pain when she talked about the suffering of her family under Stalin

First Robert Stone on nuclear, then Oliver Stone

Hell no.ima watch a podcast of paint drying.

@@tealc6218 wasn't he on an island with Harvey Weinstein and Bill Gates, chilling and vacationing.

​@@00tonytone I think maybe you are thinking of Roger Stone the political operative who has written about Epstein's island which I believe both Gates and Harvey Weinstein visited.

@@00tonytone I guarantee you watching *Robert* Stone's Pandora's Promise will be a better use of your time, than playing a video game, or watching some biased bugman 60 minutes Australia story. If you can watch Luke Smith talking about Proto-indo European history, Linux or how to live a more Kaczynski-esq based life, then you can certainly watch this film.