OLL 30 CLL to ELL while avoiding bad ELL's 

maybe F R U R' U' F' into ELL for U diag ZB while forcing a 3 cycle?

hahaha yeah i've thought about the similarities myself :P tyty

any oll that is bad that goes into a t zbll is worth it. a great example is oll 56

@@ethanhayes3676 oh ok

I also want answer to that question as i too set it up to t-zb

eo to zb is great here too, but i think on average the ELL's you get are faster to execute than the ZB's you get (the main benefit of EO to ZB here though is it's somewhat easy to predict the case you'll get)

What if i dont know 1LLL algs for the ELLs Is still sledge into ELL is better than EO to T-ZB ?

@@thespecuber1319 eo to zb is totally fine and arguably better depending on how you feel about ell algs

I still think the inevitable conclusion of this line of thought (super specific case recognition and optimization via option select) is probably 1LLL. Using this specific example, you're like 70% of the way to 1LLL recognition. I won't be the one to learn 1LLL algs (ever), but there are still some cases that I can fully recognize just because I've done like EO-> ZB so much. Then I think "Huh, I should probably know these algs if I'm gonna recognize it". But I won't. Maybe someone will

only the lucky cases are

"noo, don't do braindead easy recognition for two easy algs from sets you already know, that might generalize to other groups of cases!! just learn 12 completely new algorithms that can only be used for these specific 1LLL cases and save 3 moves on each of them!" Ok buddy