OLTYX AND THE RUIN OF THE ITHAKAS DYNASTY | Warhammer 40k Lore 

It’s reminding me of the Toy Maker from Spy Kids, with all the different versions of him

@@akumaking1 That works too, although it didn’t come to mind

I wish they hadn't put the minds in the scarab, it was alot more fun when they were all bantering inside his head.

The part where Oltyx has to experience life as a base warrior really makes me sad for the whole species. “After all, had he ever asked a warrior?”

I think necrons shouldn't, well not imotek anyway, maybe if the silent king was fully in charge I would be cool with it

Maybe not the whole galaxy. An ideal galaxy (not very realistic) would be the other factions teaming up to fight the nids/chaos, and then sectioning off the galaxy equally.

Bricky needs to watch dororo

Flayed Ones should be an entire faction, like how Tyranids and GSC are both Great Devourer. Imagined Flayed-Oneified necron units entirely.

It's a tragedy for the Ogryn. He is forced to fight in a gladiator arena, sees the dead humans and goes into a rage at his dead friends. The necron he is fighting does not understand why the ogryn's face suddenly becomes wet or why liquid spills from its eyes, and dismisses it as he kills the ogryn.

@@Lightscribe225 I thought it was a particularly emotional Space Marine. But an Ogryn makes much more sense.

This book also said Trans Rights Robots

@@baconpantsable Damn right

@@baconpantsable you're goddamn right

And brother

@@kyriansalvar247 definitely

What's even funnier is how it becomes a plot point in Reign...

@@iainmcdonald9032 WATCH THE EPISODE

@@Adeptusridiculous ty

IRONIC

@@akumaking1 Sure, they can also just give GW all their money to save time on the lawsuit.

@@gunterthekaiser6190 Legally DIstinct Deadbots Black Widow™

Did it not age well because he became immortal? Or was this after they became necrons.

@@cryamistellimek9184 yes

@@cryamistellimek9184 it didn't age well either way

There is more to japan than just anime. Get real.

He really hates animé, but I'll admit that it is a funny idea.

The whole plot of Infinite and Divine was finding a preserved Necrontyr, and you’re telling me this knuckle-dragger ATE one? Trayzin is seething rn.

@@ethanhall2655 he even wore his face on his mask for shits and giggles, which made the whole thing even more depressing. I think Trazyin would be even more furious than Oltyx was, but because he ruined a priceless artifact

I think the big thing about the body in the Infinite and the Divine is that particular body was immune to the space cancer.

@@woojichoi8536 True, but the bigger issue is having no genetic material whatsoever to work with.

@@woojichoi8536 I think having even the possibility to return to flesh, with or with out the space cancer, is almost the same as they can find a way to cure it probably. Still better than no genetic material i gues

remember to blink!

@@Trombi01 oh shit

It seems a lot like a robot version of body dysmorphia

@@yurianonio9410 So a mental illness that drives you to do insane things?

@@benjamintherogue2421 nop, dysmorphia does not relate to doing insane things my guy, it is more a sensation that your body is not the way it is supposed to be, like, your brain will just keep telling you that there is something wrong making you fell awful and it can cause anexiety and panic atacks sometimes. And it's something that can happen for a lot of things like losing a limb, gaining or losing weight or, you know, having all your living tissue replaced by mechanical parts

Yeah, you are right, it was clear throughout they were brothers.

Yeah I think the confusion is because of the ceremony and rigidly hierarchical nature of the Necron where Djoseras and Oltyx are a Higher Ranking Lord and Lower Ranking Lord first and brothers second, also Oltyx was being a petulant man child who convinced himself that Djoseras hated him and Djoseras who did legitimately love Oltyx was kinda awkward because they hadn’t been on speaking terms in 300 years.

Yeah, and like the flayed ones their bodies morph to take on the form. I loved that they went into how necrodermis works. It's like real flesh, just metal.

Here's the thing; we only have confirmation of one Ctan full on dying. Destroying a Ctan changes reality on a baseline level, that's why they were all sharded instead of killed like The Flayer. Assuming this was done after The Flayer's death, it leads one to think of just how bad this Ctan was to have it killed rather than sharded

Same here, if I am honest.

“Patience.”

@@TheNaturalnuke My man.

Best. Brother. Ever.

so next book the reign?

Well TO BE FAIR, the humans were only a concern because they were a relatively massive force attacking a bumfuck, undersupplied exile planet in a minor dynasty whose leader has gone completely insane. They reached the crown world with practically zero resistance.

@@utes5532 I know, circumstance, but it is still super cool to see.

An unexpected but apt comparison

Strategic even tried hiding it from Oltyx so he couldn't see it, and when he does see it I believe he shrieks in disgust and terror

@@95keat It's so bad he actually freezes up in horror for a time, as the founder is SO sacred it's a great sin to even look upon his body.

Plus the imagery that goes with it, an emaciated metallic frame with a hanging belly draped in flayed skin and crusted in gunk with flies. Plus his necrodermis started to grow around the mask making it permanently attached. It is honestly a grotesque image when I picture it

Not only you get blood angels and bad ass brother at end damn well overtime here i come

spoilers :(

Fucking same! I was looking for someone to mention that!

This makes me happier than a necromancer in a natural history museum.

It also makes you hate the old ones, think about watching a race just die, refusing to guide them or help them in anyway, watching these people suffer so badly, to point that, giving up their bodies was seen has the best cure. The old ones could have help them, could have change them, could have guide them to a better future, instead they never even bothered with "lesser races". Does not mean necrons are saints, far from it, but it does mean old ones got what they deserved.

@@Fourtytwo4242 I mean, to be fair it's not like the Necrontyr were going extinct. They just had short lifespans, lifespans which they themselves fully had the power to extend. The nobles had access to healthcare and technology to prolong their lives, they just treated the commoners like dirt and didn't share their wealth. We don't know the Old Ones' motives, but I'm reminded of a lot of real world autocracies, where you have to be really careful when trying to provide charity to them. If you're not, all your good will just lines the pockets of those in power, while the common people only wind up further under the boot of their oppressors.

@@the_mad_fool Nobles mostly could extend their lives for 2 years at most. That not a lot of time, yeah more then most necrontyr, but that still only 2 years, along with the pure agony of living through it has the cancer takes over. It like saying "yes it true that you must sleep on bed of spikes but pay only 5 million and you get a bed of spikes with a pillow." Not counting old ones created life from nothing, saying they could not make a cure that only works for lesser classes and not the nobles is just a lie. Truth is old ones just did not care because why would they, they are legit gods now, what a few cancer monkeys going to do to them?

​@@Fourtytwo4242 So, this is a part that Bricky misremembered. In the book they said that they could extend life by as many as *two score* years, not two years. So they did have the technology to substantially increase their lifespan, they just restricted it to the nobility. And let's try not to make too many assumptions about the Old Ones, a race which, let's face it, we know almost nothing about. Sure, it's entirely possible that you are 100% correct, and they refused out of arrogance and apathy. But it's also possible they had other reasons to refuse. We don't actually know *anything* about the Old Ones; not their psychology, their society, nor the limits of their power. It's entirely possible (even likely) that their power has been exaggerated and distorted by millions of years of memory telephone. One of the major themes of this book, even, is the subjectivity of memory, and how badly they get distorted by our minds over time. After millions of years, it's entirely unlikely that even those who personally knew the Old Ones can accurately remember them as they truly were.

@@the_mad_fool They could extend their lives but there is literally no point as it would be better to die. Oltyx was literally in line to become Dynast and even he was dying by the time biotransference took place and had been extremely sick multiple times before that.

According to the 5th ed codex that is the case

I heard somebody mention how the cancer had a warp component to it, which made it impossible to cure given how they didn’t have psychic tech. The fact all of them were cynical and called their worlds tombworlds reinforced the issue.

noble lip?

@@bocholotthethird3159 I assume noble lip is similar or refering to a genetic defect that affects certain bloodlines and families. Like hemophilia with the british royals or habsburg jaw for spanish and hungarian royals

@@UltimaOmega777 Ahhh

The Necrons are stuck in their ways, and seemingly afraid of their own AI. They could probably make more of themselves by copying minds into new Warrior bodies or use larger amounts of more intelligent Canoptek constructs, but such things would be a major cultural taboo.

@@kallemort SPOILER for bok 2: i resently started book 2 and it apears the crypt-tech witch created the subminds comes from an order witch did exaktly that. it has yet to go annyvere at the point im at in the book thoue

@@TheHarimir sPoilers: Mentep created oltyx's subminds as a better version of what Xott has, a copy of himself

@@dracomon4682 it is setanly not a foolproof method but take subminds from a few necrons and mix em together in 1 new body. maybe just maybe you end upp with something not quite the same as a new necron but far more simmular than a wraith-construkt or "disgusting organic thing"

And I love the fact that he doesn’t he remember he doesn’t have the combo anymore, and nobody including the Nihilistic Death Cult and the Psychopathic Assassin that murdered his entire family just don’t have the heart to tell him that he doesn’t have access to the monoliths anymore.

@@InquisitorThomas And then, right as *Akrops* is about to be finished, he finally remembers the combination and deploys Monoliths, which serve as an ablative armor to protect the ship.

Yeah when he said that, i got a dead space image in my head, that last mechanicus skittari trying to escape a tomb world infested with flayed ones, even the dismemberment mechanic would play well on the elongated slender forms of flayed ones and the necrons relentless undaunted persuit (plus a game where resurrecting enemies makes some sense instead of a lazy mechanic)

@@johnwright9425 shit, you're right. Hell, could even be a pseudo-sequel to the Mechanicus game. The expeditionary fleet bails after getting what they came for, but accidentally leaves some troops behind who have to figure out their own way home

Lorewise, unless those guardsman are named, they would be dead. For increase chance of survival, assuming this would be a 4 player game, this team would need a Cadian, a Catachan Jungle fighter, a Krieger, and a Tempestus Scion, and again unless they got names, I don't like their odds.

Imagine trying to escape Canoptek Wraiths when they start phasing through the floor and grab at your ankles.

@@NathanMarcusSPhua I mean, catachan heavy weapons guy, Krieger is a melee specialist, cadian well rounded and scion is marksmen

They'd get along well with the Skin Bandits from Kenshi "Hello fellow human! Can I borrow some of your skin? Just a smidge."

I dont recall her actually being eaten, at least not when I read about the myth generally. IIRC, she kept getting freed by the help of the gods and went back to him, who promptly sold her again. After a few more times, she straight up left, leaving her dad to shake his fist at the gods in anger... only to then eat himself starting with his hands once he noticed that he was essentially made of meat.

Jesus Christ…..

@@SuperHalofan64 you might be right though the idea is with greek records there are a lot of retellings like the one with tantlus and his son but the one I heard was she was turned into a mule by posiden to escape her captors and she wanted to see her father and tell him that if he would admit his mistake and say hes sorry when he saw the mule he he intently knew it was his little girl and he ate her (now two of the biggest taboos of ancient Greece was cannibalism and killing family and this man did both) and this pissed off zeus who mad his hunger even worse then what it was but on the bright side the gods did make her soul into a butterfly

The ORB must be pondered

I’m a massive imperial player, but the Tachyon arrow is a massive disservice to the necrons. It shouldn’t be a sure hit, but it should definitely kill whatever it happens to it. Will it hit that imperator class titan? Maybe not. Will it kill it if it does? Yes.

@@cryamistellimek9184 While I agree it deserves a buff, should a 130 point model be able to OHKO a 5500 point one with 120 wounds? God no.

@@The.Orange.Wizard It'd be really funny to see happen during a tournament, it's like the Chaos Confetti in MTG

@@Trynt33 Imagine the Titan legion players face, losing 5500 point mode and the tournament in one move.

Which is also why Oltyx never orders the deathmark around. He can't.

The worst part is that they probably are still just as conscious as he is, but they are never asked about it, thus can't talk, not only that, but they probably can't even express how horrible it sometimes can be

​@@davisdf3064 The old codex's describe them as not being smart enough to process what's happened/happening to them, as if they weren't made with enough storage to keep anything pre-biotransference. In modern lore they still can't do much without being specifically instructed by other necrons, so it seems they're basically lobotomised (hopefully).

@@cvangemon1307 If that is the case, then they probably can't save their people through new biological bodies, because they would just be shells without brains. Wich would mean they are doomed after all.

@@cvangemon1307so servitors in all but name

Me too lol

Dafuq!?

Agreed

Also how intentionally anti-climactic and unsatisfying it was, cause in Ultyx's he had been bulding the thing up in his head with speeches and justifications and hate, but in the end he jus uncerimoniously stepped on him like a bug. The phrase "I got everything I ever wanted, And I've never felt so cold." Sums up Ruin so we'll.

The fact that he couldn't help but fall to his knees and even the sub minds didn't stop him is what got me. They physically stopped him from looking back when he was running away but even they just fell silent for a moment after Oltyx came to the realization.

Loved Djoseras real fast

There can be multiple paths to the same destination

the flayers are infected by the flayer virus. The book goes heavily in depth on it and explains it incredibly well........ flayers are horrifying

@@Jadfisk yeah I just thought it was just a virus that Necrons need to avoid which I bet it is but I’m assuming this episode is like a introduction to the flayed virus because of this dynasty falling to it I’m assuming again I have no clue about flayers really excited 😆

No - any necron can get the flayer virus - it's because the Dynast Unnas of the Ithikas dynasty was one of the ppl who killed the C'Tan - so his dynasty and all the others that went into the Solar gate became riddled with the Curse

@@henrywhitmore8344 remember how the Flayed One King spoke of eating gods? It's because they consumed the C'Tan and were cursed in return

Damn this ones doing numbers

@@chocolateskull6239 on everybody

That's one of the greatest ironies of 40k. It's the souless alien robots that feel the most human.

Lord Vulcan! You live!

They be stealing ur shit from ur sons tho.

If I'm not mistaken they said that Blood angles and War hounds where working together, which makes this story pre-heresy. So it probably takes place during the great crusade.

@@frankficcle7081 The Warhound titans are still available to the Imperium now, and the Necrons hadn't woken yet back then. Also, they mention that the Emperor is on the Golden Throne so definitely not The Great Crusade.

@@the_mad_fool Oh, then maybe it is the Indominus Crusade.

400 ships is nothing for the Imperium. Keep in mind they have tens of if not hundreds of thousands of ships spread across millions of worlds. Launching multiple massive crusades is just the standard operating procedure for them. It's just that there is so much territory to cover and so many threats that even hundreds of thousands of ships aren't enough to keep the nasties out.

@@RapidFyrez The funny thing is their backlog on ships they need to build to replace their losses is as great if not greater than the entirety of all of their active duty ships in the Imperium right now.

I mean previous episode was bad but this story is definitely a tragedy.

wish granted,

Ha. No

@@trazyntheinfinitearchivist7866 it was but only barely, it fumbled over the low bar