Olympus's biggest competitive advantage?

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OK, so in my professional life one of the critical advantages of the OMD system has been how much easier it is to carry all the gear I want to have at a gig. Now that kit includes several lenses, three bodies flashes etc. and compared to what I used to carry in a DSLR system it’s night and day lighter and more compact, gives me more options in terms of FOV, amazing AF, killer exclusive features IBIS it’s still more than most would want to carry on vacation or just in a pocket on the daily.
But luckily, at the heart of the OMD system is the choice to go even smaller, so light so compact that any burden to carry or use it is as minimal as possible. I’ve been in love with the idea of smaller but still feature-rich cameras since moving to OMD but to really make the system shine it’s more than just a camera it’s also the lenses.
Now as you step into the OMD system there are a lot of lenses to choose from but I think there are maybe three categories
1. Specialist lenses (macro, super telephoto, ultra wide angle)
2. Do-everything zooms
3. Primes (normal-ish 12-75)
And each of those categories has Pro/Standard options. For me the Pro lenses are for when I’m going out to do photography exclusively. Meaning if the purpose of the activity or the trip is to make images then I’m absolutely going to want the fast and flexible Pro zooms at the ultra-fast apertures of the Pro primes but for EVERYTHING else I adore the smaller primes.
As I was growing into the OMD system I bought a few of the standard prime lenses and these have really become the mainstay for my personal work because they allow me to capture the widest range of available light with the smallest footprint. Combined with the image stabilization, the high iso capabilities of the cameras and fast and acute AF you’ve got the best system I’ve ever used for capturing life unobtrusively. Zooms are wonderful but I would rather have the ability to take in more light, keep my shutter speed up for fast movement.
So what do I carry on the daily - 12/25/75 and the EM5MKIII. These three lenses and bodies make for the lightest and yet widest range of possibilities. The 75 is there mostly for sports and performances, the 12 for scene-setting, unique perspectives, small rooms etc. and the 25 is the default, go-to do-anything ready at a moment's notice lens.
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@ForsgardPeter 4 года назад

Good stuff and I agree with you. Especially the 75mm F1.8 is an amazing lens.

@peterlemke3468 4 года назад

Agree Peter it's the lens that got me into the M43 system. Perfect for product photography and portrait work.

@furiousdoe7779 4 года назад

Unfortunately there are more people like me who own the lens but it’s collecting dust !

@dr34mlucid 4 года назад

Jimmy's dad!

@DerVagabundli 4 года назад

@@furiousdoe7779 I'll gladly take it off you 😉

@furiousdoe7779 4 года назад

Jamie Nothing in life is for free ....

@dougscottking 4 года назад

Nice video. Greta points. I love the tiny oly primes. I will say that the 12-40 pro is actually sharper than the primes in my testing. That thing is a beast for IQ. 12-40 or 12-100 on the camera and the 17 or 45 1.8 in my pocket would be my minimal kit.

@Carlos1180 4 года назад

My thoughts exactly. That 12-40 is an amazing walking around lens. The 17 and 45 only get brought out if I really need f/1.8. My 25 never gets used. The 40-150 is every bit as good as the 12-40, even with the 1.4x teleconverter on

@Eltargrimm 4 года назад

These advantages are unfortunately not the first ones many new enthusiasts think of. Portability, affordability and the relative performance for the price, i.e. bang for buck, is fantastic within the Olympus system. I am more likely to grab my EM10 M3 than my Nikon Z6, unless I'm going out for night photography in Tokyo, where I live. And I was able to snatch the 17mm, 25mm and 45mm primes for around $200-250 each, used in great condition and they are by far the best things I could spend my money on for my photography at this point.

@klauslehrmann4927 4 года назад

Hello. Interesting you live in Tokyo and do night-photo. I not too watched a video of a foreigner living in Tokyo, giving tips on night-photo handheld, and I wondered what living in Tokyo is like. I hope you do not mind me asking. Thanks for this nice comment of yours. Is Oly. not good for night-photo.?

@Eltargrimm 4 года назад

@@klauslehrmann4927 I believe I watched that video as well, that guy takes some fantastic photos. Tokyo is a great city to live in, with one drawback if you ask me: It is quite difficult to make long lasting friendships with the locals. Not impossible, mind you, but it took me way more time and effort to get there than it ever did in my life. As for Olympus and night photography... I will say that it is not the best camera, under the conditions I shot and with me photography skills. Possible? Absolutely. But there were times when I was shooting under extremely dim lighting conditions and while I was able to get a proper exposure, it was always at very slow shutter speeds. With the IBIS, I could get away with it, it is truly fantastic in that regard. But I just couldn't freeze motion, which I actually wanted to do at times. I must emphasize one point: Because I couldn't do it does not necessarily mean others can't either.

@klauslehrmann3906 4 года назад

@@Eltargrimm T.y. for your response. As for freezing action, I had the opposite idea recently, as I was not used tot ake pictures with motionblur, I got interest in taking such, and did while I was in october 2019 in Berlin to attend an exibition by GuruShots, with the theme, "Mostly White", in which one of my photos was digitally displayed. While in Berlin, conveniently, a challenge on pictures of/from Berlin opened, and I later hurried home to process the one specific I had in mind, which took at least an hour to edit. I submitted it, and not long after, the challenge-hosting Guru gave that photo a Guru's Pick. yay! That picture is a handheld ultrawideangle long-exposure of a piece of the Berlin-wall, with people moving about.Took it low-angle using flip-screen, an FT-adapter, and an FT 7-14mm f.4.0. Made it partial color, and gave the subject around the wall, a gausian blur. Mayhaps you would like to see that, and also others I took in Berlin. Here are 2 videos about GuruShots, in case you are not familiar with it. I do not agree with GS themselves that it is a game, considering prizes are involved. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bSeOtT_K1Mk.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AMOlYBfj0Do.html Regards from me to you

@youknowwho9247 4 года назад

I don't see that argument at all. In terms of performance for money, MFT is quite clearly the worst choice out there. Especially the 'pro' glass is ridiculously overpriced.

@dayeah765caoni3 4 года назад

@@klauslehrmann4927 you can walk around safely without being worried to be mugged by Kayne West lookalikes

@michaelshoup2703 4 года назад

The Olympus 25mm 1.8 is the go-to for shooting the non stop activities of little kids in their natural home environment.. They're in your lap, then on the floor, then across the room.. Up, down & sideways! With the 'fast' 1.8, there's no flash to deal with.. And the ability to go with a shallow focus, the typical toy covered 'arena' (front room, kitchen, bedroom, etc) becomes a background of soft non distracting colors and shapes! And yes, the 45 1.8 is great for those semi candid portraits.. (Used on both my M5MII & M1MII)

@CameraCombo 4 года назад

I couldn't agree more with everything you said. Subscribed!

@skamradt67 4 года назад

The 75mm f/1.8 really needs a pro refresh. Just adding a manual focus clutch and weather sealing without changing the optics would be a game winner for sure. It is my goto lens when I have the space to work with and the reason I no longer have any Nikon gear.

@JosephEllisPhotographer 4 года назад

I think that would be a great idea. Even if they varied the focal length to say 90 or 100mm but made it a pro lens I think it would a great addition. While we're at it I'd like to see a 150mm f2 remade from the older 4/3 era.

@peterlemke3468 4 года назад

@@JosephEllisPhotographer Agree a 100mm and 150mm prime are needed as is a 10mm wide angle.

@keithholland4322 4 года назад

I really hope Olympus introduces some longer telephoto primes one of these days. There's a big gaping hole in their lineup between the 75mm and the 300mm. What I would love to see is a 100mm f/1.4 that is compatible with teleconverters. If Olympus wants to attract professional wildlife photographers, a 250mm f/2 (which they made for their OM system) would allow Olympus to compete with the much larger 500mm full frame prime lenses in low light while being considerably smaller. A smaller and more affordable 250mm f/2.8 would also be a nice addition.

@fullkoll 4 года назад

I found your site by a tip from Peter Forsgård and I am amazed that an American youtuberer can be both informative and nice in a low key way at the same time! I didn´t think that was possible! I´ll most certainly will come back to your site!

@armanddimeo6575 4 года назад

The 45mm f1.8 is amazing and one of my favorite lenses. I also really like the Panasonic 20mm f1.7; the Olympus 17mm f1.8 is very nice also but more expensive. The huge size and weight advantage of Olympus and other Micro 4/3 gear outweighs the slight advantage in image quality of full-frame.

@DeepteshLovesTECH 4 года назад

Slight advantage? It's the difference between getting a usable image in challenging conditions vs not getting a usable shot.

@777sib 4 года назад

DeepteshLovesTECH how many situations happened?

@markusbolliger1527 4 года назад

Full frame very often is a disadvantage. With fast mFT prime lenses you can shoot under bad lightening conditions with maximum aperture and still getting enough depth of field at base ISO. Many blind tests have proven that most people can't distinguish mFT prints from full frame- prints.

@bradmiller9993 4 года назад

Agreed. I haven't shot with the 75mm yet but I adore all of my Oly (and Panasonic) lenses. Even the inexpensive zooms (45-200) render wonderful images.

@judithwinkler1553 4 года назад

I love my small primes and also use the 12-100 for portraits. I can get the close shot with nice bokeh and quickly zoom back to get a shot with more context. On another front, I would love to see you do a video about the 300 mm lens. What uses do you see for it other than birding. Love your videos.

@OneHarp 4 года назад

Great thoughts Joe, and I agree with you about those f1.8 lenses. I have the 45mm, and I am angling to pick up the 17mm. What I will add is that I just sold my EM10ii and bought a used Panasonic GM5 as my small "every day" camera body (to compliment my EM1ii for more "serious" pursuits). Now, the GM5 is not perfect, and there are things Panasonic does with the menu system, lack of full customization, and button layout that I think Oly does WAY better, but the super small size of that GM5 is a real game changer for me. That size body pairs so well with these small Oly f1.8 primes, it's as if they were designed for each other! I wish Oly would consider to make something like the GM5 - super compact, but with an EVF and just the right amount of control dials and buttons and that Oly sensibility that Panasonic bodies lack.

@MDMiller60 4 года назад

Considering the big switch. A little frustrated that Olympus did not upgrade the EVF, LCD, and sensor.

@markusbolliger1527 4 года назад

I agree! I own both categories of lenses: PRO zooms as well as the f/1.8 resp. f/2.0 primes: 12, 17, 25, 45 and 75mm. As well as the outstanding 45mm f/1.2 PRO. For landscape photography the 12-100mm f/4.0 PRO is my workhorse lens, paired with the 7-14mm f/2.8. . But for discrete street photography I prefer the 17mm/1.8 lens, or the 25/1.8. For portraits one of the two 45mm.

@TexpatOTG 4 года назад

Hard to find Olympus cameras here in Saigon. I like the looks of some of their offerings, but haven't been able to try any.

@peterlemke3468 4 года назад

Hong Kong and Tokyo ain't that far away Texan you deserve a holiday. Once the virus kerfuffle has settled down take a trip. Enjoy your channel BTW. Been years since l visited Vietnam must get back there.

@tonyrobinson8197 4 года назад

Great video Joseph. I agree with your summation of the competitive advantages, however want to add a couple of others. First out of the box is the superb image stabilisation and how it works with a combination of peaking and magnification, which enables the use of adapted lenses so easily (I have quite a few and use them on the OM-D E-M1 and Pen EP5). Second and this is important to bear in mind, the picture quality to file size equation. Pictures are sharp, the colours and contrast (overall rendering) is exceptional and the file size is acceptable, meaning you can store heaps, manipulate files in post easily and on older equipment without needing to upgrade your tech infrastructure. Viewing files in 1080 on a screen or on an iPad and transferring to and manipulating on devices via wifi is a breeze. Simply put, you get incredible photographic competence and far more features for your dollar with Olympus. However, I believe that the best investment a new photographer could make is to pair the new OM-D EM5 with either the new 12-45mm f4 Pro or the 12-40mm f2.8 Pro (which I have). This is a bit more money, but gives a water resistant pairing which you can use in foul weather.......this is my most used lens by far, covers about 80% of photo opportunities and is equally sharp as the premium primes. The 75mm f1.8 however is a gem but doesn’t get into my bag as often as I would like. Keep up the great videos. Regards. Tony from Australia.

@helsfury 4 года назад

Subscribed. You're a smart guy.

@RobShootPhotos 4 года назад

Did you mention minimum focus distance? I'm amazed how many of their lenses have better minimum focus distances in compared to most camera systems. The latest 12-45mm gives many compelling reasons to buy it and that one of them. Then the 12-100mm & 12-40mm is pretty impressive too.

@furiousdoe7779 4 года назад

Great stuff ... and if you want Pro lensens but Cheap and good build KamLang 28mm /1.4 and 50mm/1.1 II are also excelent options ..only one minus ...they are manual focus .

@furiousdoe7779 4 года назад

I never thought that manual lenses would give me so much pleasure .

@wikicamara 4 года назад

Do you prefer the 25mm over the 17mm? Also, will the 75mm f1.8 be available with weather sealing anytime soon? I use to see photographers with 870200mm f2.8 (FF eq.) lens for street photography. Would you recommend the 75mm for that?

@rogerquenault7207 4 года назад

When I saw the notification in my mail box I thought OH NO not another em1 mk3 review, I was so glad it was something different 😀 I love the small primes, have you noticed a bump in quality from the 16mp to the 20mp sensor in the em5 mk3?

@JosephEllisPhotographer 4 года назад

Coming from the 5.2 I would say yes the newer sensor is a good/great generational upgrade but honestly, it's the autofocus that really makes the biggest difference between the two models.

@peterlemke3468 4 года назад

@@JosephEllisPhotographer That phase detect makes all the difference.

@joshuagutierrez8407 2 года назад

Joe, relatively new to your channel and I can already say I appreciate your knowledge and appreciation for photography. I realize this is an older clip, but now given OMD has released the 20mm 1.4, did that replace your 17/1.2 or 25/1.2 for general or professional use?

@stevieb7121 4 года назад

Agree with everything you say here Joseph, plus you cannot ignore some of Panasonic lenses. The Panasonic-Leica 15mm f1.7 is one of my all time favourite lenses.

@peterlemke3468 4 года назад

Ditto 15mm is gold as is the 12mm f1.4. That 15mm is my go to street photography choice.

@furiousdoe7779 4 года назад

Joseph cannot talk about Pana lenses ....

@allenschneider1847 2 года назад

For a zoom lense, would you recommend getting the kit 12-45 f4 or upgrade to the 12-40 f2.8. It's kind of an expensive upgrade, in your mind do you think it's worth it?

@johnbelli9390 4 года назад

So what I'm hearing is I should be getting a 25mm for my next lens? This goes with something Chris Marquardt said on TWiT some time ago, about shooting with a 50mm (25 MFT==50 FF).

@JosephEllisPhotographer 4 года назад

The 25 1.8 is a real go-to for me and an excellent place to start with primes if you’re a generalist.

@kent2000100 4 года назад

I agree portability is great with m43. I carry all my m43 gear in one normal camera bag, or I can scale down to a lens or two and go on the fly. However, low light in a gymnasium is still an issue. Separation is still an issue. Noise is still an issue. I just don’t understand how you make this system work. I would love to get rid of my ff gear, but claiming this system works in low light just isn’t true.

@OutRAjious 2 года назад

Hi can you tell me the difference between EZ and ED lenses please? thanks

@michaelmoritz1048 4 года назад

The 12-40 pro is indispensable, especially for family photos. Its $4-500 used, tack sharp, great colors, good low light performance. The 45 f1.8 is great for portraits and super compact. A super zoom is also a must. I don't any of the three lenses you recommend. The sigma 1.4 primes for m4/3 look really interesting.

@cformont 4 года назад

Just invested in the em5 Mark II and some lenses. But what do you guys think about the future of Olympus?

@RobShootPhotos 4 года назад

Really all these camera companies are struggling but they are all very diversified. Let's say the camera division of a company is losing or not gaining profit, they may look at it as a lost leader, a tax write-off, and/or R&D that is beneficial to other aspects of their business. Regardless, I know if Olympus falls off the face of the Earth, my cameras and lenses will still be working well and there is a decent used market.

@peterlemke3468 4 года назад

I'm not sure but not fussed. I enjoy using the gear that's all that matters. Just pick up spares of what you need such as batteries, body caps, lens caps etc.

@youknowwho9247 4 года назад

Looking at the relevant market data, it's very unlikely Olympus' consumer camera department will still exist in 2025.

@anthonywilliams7686 4 года назад

What lenses would you recommend for primarily travel photography to go with the EM 1 Mark II. I'm switching from Sony A7RII due to bulk and weight of the kit. I have to fly for travel 95% of the time.

@ottomandiaries9409 4 года назад

Anthony Williams honestly the lens that I would strongly recommend is the Pro 12-100 mm F4.0. You can get a used one in mint condition for under $900. I used that lens 90% of the time while traveling through Thailand and Indonesia. When I went out at night I used my Pro 17mm... those are the only two lenses I used on my E-M1 Mk II during my 3 week vacation.

@TomFreer87 4 года назад

12 - 40 pro it’s the lens I take on my travels

@TelmanRaoofi 4 года назад

Thank you for all these great videos. I have couple questions and I would be very happy if you talk about these in future videos. First, for 25mm lens, generally Panasonic version is available for much cheaper price. most of the time 150$ brand new. does Olympus version provide any advantage for double the price on an Olympus camera? Second, can you talk a little bit about 17mm f1.8 since it is generally the cheapest wide angle prime lens available. 300& compared to 700$ for 12mm f2. would Panasonic 14mm f2.5 be a good alternative for 200$? what do you suggest for an affordable wide angle prime for Olympus system?

@1fareast14 4 года назад

Yep, more camera systems should focus on compact primes. I've got a tiny camera bag that fits the slrmagic 8mm, oly 17, panasonic 25, pana 42.5, extension tubes, and my gx85. I wish there were more options like that on other systems. Especially L-mount and Fuji X. If fuji allowed the sigma contemporary primes, they'd be set. As for L-mount, I like the idea of cameras like the FP, but there aren't small lenses for them.

@youknowwho9247 4 года назад

There's a problem with your math here. Pretty much all those lenses can be replaced by one 24-70 f/2.8 on a full frame body. That's smaller, lighter, cheaper and a lot more convenient.

@1fareast14 4 года назад

@@youknowwho9247 That's just an argument against primes in general. You can't chop the 24-70 into pieces, and just carry what you need with you on a particular day. Primes are faster than zooms on a particular system, so I'd be at 1.8 if I was using a full-frame body. Finally, I prefer primes for discreet one-handed shooting, relying on zooming for the composition is slower. Setting the zoom to a known focal length means I should just be using a prime anyway. That's fine if it doesn't work for you, just saying that there should be more small prime options where there are already small bodies.

@bakermantube 4 года назад

Thanks for your tips in your very informative video. I have the Pen-F and use much the m. zuiko 12-40mm 2.8 pro lens. This combo seems quiet heavy but I can handle it pretty well. I like my 17mm 1.8 lens also very much, because of the quality, the small size, it's fast and an excellent compromise: it's not a too wide angle and not so close to the subject. My third lens is the small 45mm 1.8 prime lens. So fast, sharp, light and tiny. The 75mm 1.8 is on my list. I hope to buy a used one some day.

@Bakin 3 года назад

Joe; we haven't seen any new videos from you in a while? Missing your thoughts on the OMD Solutions company.

@FoulPet 4 года назад

My first SLR was a E410 that I still have it and probably always will. I went heavy into Nikon and Have messed with Sony. I intend to try Canon soon. As much as I loved the Olympus, I just don't see it being able to hold ground against the superpowers in the long run. With mirrorless tech out there now, size and weight aren't a concern anymore. With the vehicle comparison below, Jeep is cool to see somebody else drive but Honda and Toyota will get my money because they are a better investment.

@icarofoto 4 года назад

i have 17 f1,8 & 45 f1,8 premium prime, and I still prefer to use my 12-40 f2,8 pro. sharpness, clarity, contrast its just unbeatable. I'm wondering about a 25mm PRO but even the 45 PRO attracts me a lot, for family & kids. Any suggestion?

@peterlemke3468 4 года назад

I have all the Olympus f1.2 primes. The best of them are the 17mm and 45mm. For portrait work the 45mm is a beautiful lens with great build quality.

@scottgarriott3884 4 года назад

I agree that m4/3 true advantage lies in its reduced size and weight, and I feel like the bullseye was with the M-5 lineup. With pro lenses (especially the zooms) the weight advantage decreases somewhat but that M-5 size is absolutely brilliant. But now everyone is so bedazzled by FF that Oly have poured their resources into trying to compete with these via their M-1 and X lines and seem to have dropped the M-5 line on its head; it was ideally suited to compete with all those APS-C cameras, but the new E-M5 III seems to be no more than an E-M10 IV. I am really disappointed that the body is now plastic and tripod screw sockets are tearing out the camera bottom plates, both with small tripod plates and other carrying straps - see the maxed-out forum posts on DPReview. I can't even use live ND on the new cam, so I'd be forced to carry HUGE and expensive filters and filter carriers for the 7-14. Bye-bye advantages. If anything they should have dropped the M-10 line (let expensive phones and their fancy image processing continue to close this narrowing gap) and continue to close the APS-C gap by properly equipping the M-5 line. Did anyone really need a few grams shaved off the E-M5 II?

@eddwingregg6999 4 года назад

EM5iii

@joeltunnah 2 года назад

I agree with you, but the EM5.3 is still very close to a perfect all around camera.

@joeltunnah 2 года назад

@@eddwingregg6999 The EM10 series has contrast detect only. EM5 and up have phase detect, it’s a big deal.

@SandraMarkusTrachsel 4 года назад

Dear Joseph, congratulation to your channel and the highly valuable content you provide to the Olympus community and photography in general. I so glad I discoverd you quite early when you started and I like your unagitated calm way of talking and explaining your points. Also I like your tidy desk and background, it puts the focus on what you say and present. Really glad I subscribed to you. We also shared some conversation in the Olympus OM-D education group because I also do all our semi-professonal nature and wildlife documentary shooting with the whole range of Olympus Pro lenses and our trusty E-M1mk. II and I am still impressed with the stunning results we get every time. I would really highly appreciate if you do me the favour of visiting my channel one day too. Whishing you all the best and always keen to see more great content from you. Best regards, Markus

@RonaldBrown59 4 года назад

I couldn't agree more on how great the prime lens are this camera system. And how the lighter the weight of these lenses makes them ideal for a long day of shouting.

@tkarlmann 4 года назад

Joe: What are the things with the red collars on your camera? Also: When is your E-M1 Mark III review due out?

@onthemove301 4 года назад

Perhaps I could answer the first question. They are Peak Design connectors for use with Peak Design camera straps and wrist straps. You leave them attached to the camera while changing straps. The advantages include (if you have several cameras in your bag) fewer straps taking less room in the bag, and the wrist strap is very useful especially for smaller cameras (the Sony RX100 in particular) which are too easily dropped. I don't work for PD. Their stuff is good quality but not cheap to buy.

@eyedeally5981 4 года назад

How do you feel about the 40-150 2.8 PRO?

@JosephEllisPhotographer 4 года назад

A brilliant lens, I use it all the time professionally for events, portraits and for my kids outdoor sports. It’s a bigger lens so not an everyday carry but so so useful as a do it all telephoto. For indoor sports (my son does taekwondo) the 75 has been more useful due to the very low light levels. I hope that helps!

@tizio54 4 года назад

Nice video. For a more compact (but also more limiting) two prime-lens kit, the 17mm f/1.8 and 45mm f/1.8 is also a great combination for a wide range of general uses.

@DerVagabundli 4 года назад

I got that 45mm 1.8 yesterday and I'm so very impressed by it

@garybrown9719 3 года назад

Olympus is so inovative then everybody else copies them Im old school so i went for the panisonic 12mm and 42.5mm f/1.2 Bigger yes brighter faster seem worth the wieght to get the fastest and best focus possible on micro four thirds

@StaffViet2009 4 года назад

12-200 and be there!

@Marty4650 4 года назад

Joseph is right. Lenses are a huge advantage for Olympus and M4/3. No other system offers so many lens options at so many price and quality points. But this is a system advantage, and not an Olympus specific advantage. In my own view, the biggest things Olympus has going for it are: > IBIS - The best implementation in the industry. Works like a charm. > Jpeg colors - only Canon comes close to the appeal of Olympus color science. > Innovative features - like world's best dustbuster, pixel mapping, HHHR, Live Composite, etc

@joeltunnah 2 года назад

@@cliffday1183 you’re right you can’t beat physics… FF lenses will always be much bigger and heavier for the same aperture. The body sizes were never the big advantage of m4/3, it was always the lenses and innovative features. And if you try to make the FF kit smaller by using f/4 zooms or f/2.8 primes, you lose any noise advantage over m4/3.

@joeltunnah 2 года назад

@@cliffday1183 I think you completely missed my point. If size, weight, and money are irrelevant to you, knock yourself out with your FF kit. And I haven’t researched those two lenses, but I doubt the Sony zoom is optically better than the Olympus prime. I also doubt wildlife pros are shooting above ISO 800, but again I’m no expert.

@ForrestWest 4 года назад

My Nikon d500 with the 300mm f/4 PF lens weighs 3.8 lbs. I think the Olympus cameras with a similar 300M mf4 weigh more. And I believe they're not getting a true f/4 out of it. I do like Olympus features though like the pro capture. Anyway, best of luck to you in 20 2020!

@Ricardo-SW 4 года назад

Isn't the Olympus 300mm a FF 600mm "equivalent", so wouldn't it be better to compare with a Nikon 400mm (if such existed) when comparing weights?

@youknowwho9247 4 года назад

The Olympus is a 600mm f/8 equivalent, whereas the Nikon on a D500 is a 450mm f/5.6 equivalent. The Nikon lens is also substantially sharper, and the D500 beats any Olympus for reliability and autofocus by a large margin. Both pieces of glass are physical 300mm f/4 so it is a fair comparison. Again, the Nikon is smaller, lighter, sharper and cheaper. It's a perfect example of how overpriced MFT gear is in terms of performance for money.

@MarkoNara 4 года назад

As I always say: Cameras are like Cars... a Jeep Wrangler may do all kind of stuff but its no the more confortable or suitable for every situation in every day transportation.

@youknowwho9247 4 года назад

Except cameras are nothing like cars. There's no job that a full frame doesn't do better than MFT.

@Carlos1180 4 года назад

@@youknowwho9247 How's that IBIS working out for ya? :D

@TB-up4xi 2 года назад

@@youknowwho9247 The EM-5 iii is my go to camera. I know this is a new M43 vs older DSLR FF comparison but my D750 has seen the light of day maybe 1/2 dozen times over the past 2 years. The D750+ 24-70 f/2.8 and 80-400 F/4.5-5.6 set me back around $6000 USD ($8500 AUD) the combinations weigh about 2kg for the 24-70+D750 (4 lbs 7 oz) and 2.4kg (5lbs 5oz) for the 80-400+D750. By comparison my Em-5 Mk iii with 12-40 2.8 pro and 40-150 2.8 pro combination cost $2300 USD ($3200 USD) in total (about as much as the 80-400 alone!) the combined weight of the 12-40 and 40-150 setups with the Em5-mk iii are 800 grams (1 lb 12 oz) and 1.1 kg (2lbs 7 oz) respectively. The EM5 mk iii also has, live composite, faster shutter speed, a high res 80 Megapixel mode, superb In body stabilisation, a fully atriculating touch screen, bluetooth, focus stacking and can shoot 30 FPS. I have looked back over the photos I took with the D750 and only for the period i got caught up in the whole "Toneh" mistake see --> ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aQ8VodC19-g.html my photos are equally as good on the EM-5. And this is exactly the point of an M43 for 95% of the photos the average Joe like me takes (and I've accumulated over 500,000) the M43 system is a perfectly fine tool. For the professional National Geographic or Studio photographer maybe there is a justification but for day to day it's good enough ....ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OGn3yPl59ZM.html

@TB-up4xi 2 года назад

@@youknowwho9247 Except there are parallels. The FF would be a G-Wagon and the M43 a Mazda Miata (mx5) - it could be argued that there is nothing the G-Wagon can't do that the Mazda can.....but I think I would be in the Mazda for the majority of the time.

@davemil716 4 года назад

I come back to your videos regularly and enjoy your content. I use EM1 Mk1's with ten various Olympus lenses. I could not agree more about portability! I am wondering if you have ever used FourThirds Lenses on MFT bodies. There seem to be a few really good choices out there... like the 50mm f2 macro...

@kent2000100 4 года назад

davemil716 I find they work, but usually no very fast or sharp. Just my opinion.

@davemil716 4 года назад

@@kent2000100 I do mostly portrait/headshot work... based on a couple of other videos I decided to take the chance and purchased a 50mm f2 Macro... a focal length in primes that are missing... I could have gone with the sigma 56mm but it would be more than double the price... When I get it I will try to remember to leave a comment with my results...

@davemil716 4 года назад

@@kent2000100 I got a 50mm, took portraits with it this past weekend. I found it very sharp AND the speed of the focus for portraits was more than acceptable... glad I got it!

@youknowwho9247 4 года назад

I don't understand how people carry a bag full of primes and then praise the portability of a system. A full frame with a 24-120 f/4 replaces a whole array of MFT primes from a 12mm f/2 to a 60mm f/2. That's more compact, more convenient, and cheaper.

@davemil716 4 года назад

@@youknowwho9247 I used Canon for several years and honestly Canon was always good to me regarding quality of image. What wasn't good was the weight of the cameras and lenses. I don't know what you are comparing, but a bag of Olympus primes is very light weight. My 12-40 zoom weighs 382g while the Canon 24-105 f4 weighs 795g. For my needs, Olympus wins the weight battle!

@TB-up4xi 2 года назад

8:06 My 12-40mm F/2.8 pro is better (corner to corner sharpeness, contrast, colour, bokeh) at 17mm F/2.8 to F/22 than my 17mm F/1.8 at the same f/stops roughly the same as my 45mm f/1.8 (40 vs 45 of course at f/2.8 on) but the 75mm f/1.8 is however is a brilliant lens - far and away the best lens ever for M43 (for image quality, sharpness, colour, contrast, bokeh) just eats up my 40-150mm F/4 Pro at 75mm at every F/stop from F/4 onwards. Also the achilles heel of M43 (I don't see DOF as a disadvantage necessarily) has always been high ISO performance - for anyone looking for a solution download a free trial of the new DXO Prure Raw 2 software - trust me you will be blown away by what this software can do to render crisp and clean images from high ISO RAW files.

@samanimeguy23 4 года назад

Probably need a 75mm f1.2. But thats gonna cost an arma and leg!!!

@judithwinkler1553 4 года назад

Olympus has great lens options for the non-billionaire adventurer who wants to travel or hike and photograph the world. Lenses that break the bank, and the bank are a no go.

@youknowwho9247 4 года назад

For those people, MFT is a terrible choice. In terms of performance for money, micro four thirds is the most expensive system on the market.

@bobdrawbaugh4207 4 года назад

The 75 is really a special lens. It’s my indoor sports lens. But when my wife and I are on vacation I’ve used it at concerts to get some really nice images. I will never sell this lens.

@RobShootPhotos 4 года назад

This is why I'm debating if I should get the Pro 40-150mm. I love the Olympus line for portability and the reaction I get from people when I share what I just captured with my small setup. I got 17, 25, 45 & 60 primes and not as concern having the 12-40mm. When doing street photography I use the 17mm and 45mm or the 40-150mm kit lens. I love rocking the 40-150mm range and for it a kit lens, the image quality has been decent. Both lenses fit in my jacket pockets or cargo pants. If I wanted an f/2.8 telephoto lens that is still fairly small, Panasonic 35-100 would be great to have. If Olympus made a telephoto lens near the same 40-150mm with the same idea that they had with the new 12-45mm, I would probably buy it in a heartbeat. Ok fine, it will be an f/4 but it will be a stop faster on the long end, much less purple fringing, chromatic aberration and sun flare than the kit lens but not as big as the current pro model. The Olympus road map looks promising.

@Ricardo-SW 4 года назад

I have to por 40-150, and it is a heavy lens. If weight is an issue then look at the Panasonic 50-200.

@Carlos1180 4 года назад

I also have the 40-150 Pro. Yes it is heavy but the quality is incredible. I can still have it, 2 bodies, 12-40 pro, 3 small primes, a Cactus flash, trigger, compact Tough camera, 4 batteries and a MacBook Pro and it all fits in my carry on bag and still just about at the 10KG weight limit

@klauslehrmann4927 4 года назад

Greetings, mr. Ellis. I see your son and I are siblings. Hello to him from me :).

@jamescollins1272 4 года назад

Damn expensive camera lenses a lot of us will not be buying.

@melgross 4 года назад

Of course, if they had a competitive advantage, any one at all, they wouldn’t have such a minuscule marketshare, in which they themselves estimate as just 360,000 camera sales this year, down from 500,000 plus last year. Great advantage.

@Cheeseiest1 4 года назад

Did you really click on this video just to make a cynical condescending comment? Get back under your bridge troll.

@melgross 4 года назад

Nathan Smith you feel that way? No, I’m just stating the obvious. It’s not cynical, it’s reality.

@joeltunnah 2 года назад

@@melgross market dominance usually has very little to do with who makes the best product for the consumer. Especially internationally. Marketing, trade agreements, media relations, legal issues, distribution, etc, all have a big impact on sales, more so than 7.5 stops of IBIS. Olympus never marketed their cameras well outside of Japan, even going back to the 1970s. And they never got the idiotic and fickle camera press on their side like SoNiCanon. Even with all their missteps, they still produced pretty great cameras and lenses, even recently… and are still number 1 in sales for ILCs in Japan.

@FotosyMas. 4 года назад

The iPhone 11 Pro changed everything for me. It gives me 90% of the IQ of my Olympus gear without the hassle of carrying a camera all the time. With the iPhone I suddenly have 3 different focal lengths with incredible quality that fits in my pocket. I love Olympus but I sold all that m43 gear and my phone is now my secondary system, my every day carry camera.

@JosephEllisPhotographer 4 года назад

I agree it’s good but how do you handle true telephoto images and what about low light? My 5.3 does both of those much better than my 11 pro without the size and weight of pro gear. I’m guessing your primary gear is there if you need it but do you ever feel compromised when you just have your phone on you?

@FotosyMas. 4 года назад

Joseph Ellis My Oly gear was Pen F and EM10 III with 12mm, 17mm, 25mm and 45mm 1.8 primes. I used it for street photography and family documenting. After 3 month of making the switch I haven’t been in a situation where I needed more than my iPhone. I don’t use telephoto lenses for this type of photography. For those days when I go out to take more serious photos I don’t mind carrying my full frame gear. I am not a pro like yourself, just a hobbyist. The only thing that I miss is the tactile feeling of a real camera, especially the Pen F. But again, I feel the trade off is justified and logical... for me. I leave you a couple samples I’ve gotten while testing the capabilities of the iPhone 11: flickr.com/photos/129516046@N04/sets/72157711525447116

@shortwavetube7652 4 года назад

If you are now a phonetographer why bother even watching these videos bud? The experience of using a real camera is photography. But you admit that you still own a full frame rig.The idiot that said a camera is just a tool truly needs to get real. Why have a luxury or sports car if the automobile is just a tool?

@FotosyMas. 4 года назад

@@shortwavetube7652 I used to subscribe to this channel and other M43 channels. Their videos still pop up on my feed from time to time so I come watch occasionally. The Olympus community is one of the best in the youtube photography world.

@FoulPet 4 года назад

Id love to see a phone picture compared to a 45 megapixel DSLR blown up to 30" print

@youknowwho9247 4 года назад

How do people praise the portability of a system and then carry a bag full of primes? A 24-120 f/4 on full frame replaces a whole array of MFT primes from the 12mm f/1.8 to a 60mm f/1.8. That's lighter, cheaper and a lot more convenient. Plus one gets the option for really fast glass. An f/1.8 on MFT is not; it's f/3.5 full frame equivalent, that's barely consumer grade.

@joeltunnah 2 года назад

f/1.8 is f/1.8 regardless of the sensor size behind it. Please learn some optics and physics. An f/2 mft prime will be able to shoot two stops lower ISO for the same shutter speed on your f/4 FF zoom, completely negating any noise advantage of the bigger camera. However if you don’t care at all about size weight and cost, FF lenses faster than f/2.4 will start to give you an advantage.

@youknowwho9247 2 года назад

@@joeltunnah Exactly, negating. That's exactly why it's correct to say that f/2 on MFT is equivalent to f/4 on full frame. The resulting images will show the same depth of field and noise.