How are her movements so perfectly fluid and incredible? Like, she doesn't look like she's giving it any effort, but also looks as if she's giving it all her power at the same time...howww??
@ Celeste Lalianna have you seen the original witch Ben Vareen as the Narrator ? He glided across the stage with feline grace. I’m anxious to see the revival, because the new Narrator is, as you state, effortlessly graceful.
BENJAMIN BREHM uh I’m pretty sure she didn’t miss lines, they either cut them out for being a clip on the view, or they aren’t in the revival, Broadway ain’t a high school production
And if I can be a lesbian for a second, she had me with that octave leap to the low F#-G# ("dry your lips"). Hopefully, when Malala is Emperor of the World, Patina can be Secretary of State or something.
I really wanted NOT to like this, being a huge fan of the original. That being said, this was pretty frikkin' AWESOME. Not so much Pippin, at least in this portion. But the Narrator, Patina, was totally awesome. I was happily and completely proven wrong that no one but Ben Vereen could play the role.
KidIndigo1 Matthew James Thomas disappointed imo. Patina Miller exceeded every expectation. Neither she nor Ben Vereen were better than another, but they were both utterly spectacular.
Kyle Dean Massey is a better Pippin than Matthew James Thomas in my eyes. His dancing and singing is way better and his ‘random’ movements have such a comedic aspect to it, I love that.
I'm addicted to both this version and the Ben Vereen version of this song. I definitely like the sound better in this one but the choreography and the character I go back and forth on. The dancing here is great but Pippin is miserable throughout the whole thing and that back and forth between him and the Lead Player in this version feels like they're showing off. In the Ben Vereen version, the Lead Player actually cheers Pippin up and gets him to keep trying and they dance together and it feels much more playful. Either way, 2 fantastic versions of a fantastic song and both get stuck in my head
I see it more as the leading player manipulating Pippin by enamoring him with the glitz of performance, which foreshadows her eventual intention to get him to kill himself for the spectacle of it all.
ive always liked ciara renee's leading player too: hers always seemed a little more malicious to me, especially in the opening "you look frenzied" line. her arm movements there are so sudden they almost seem more like an attack, and it looks like pippin is shocked/startled into sitting down, whereas patina miller's version begins with a softer presentation sort of motion. that being said, i think both are great
Compare this choreography to Fosse's original and you'll see instantly just how sorry this version is - but I felt that about the entire production. The idea of Pippin as circus wasn't new to this director - it was Fosse's original concept, which he changed because he came up with something better.
@@1redfury The circus concept was Fosse's ORIGINAL concept for the show. Ultimately he went in a completely different direction, but Diane Paulus was not new to the party with the idea.
@@Marcel_Audubon Oh, perhaps you should take your own advice, sweetie, because I'm not the one who needs to grow up. Now, and I mean this in the nicest possible way - go to your room.
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sorry all. pippin is Ben Vereen. she is not dancing fosse at all. pippin is fosse.. to see him do that live was so outstanding. so much so...I saw it 5 nights in a row. my idol and probably one of my favorite broadway productions and without telling you my age....I saw south pacific with Mary martin.
For some reason Patina Miller's career tanked after this. Not sure why. She was so talented but of course she was no Ben Vereen who originated this role.
In either case (and something about them strikes me as essentially different, I can't quite put my finger on it), the reorchestration is superbly done, and makes an argument for some hidden brilliance under what appeared to be a mediocre score.
KidIndigo1 Nobody's denying Vareen's qualities, but have you seen her live? She's pretty phenomenal, physically, acting-wise, and she's vocally perfect, as accomplished as pretty much any opera singer in the world with an international career right now. For a young woman to approach an iconic persona immortalized by Vereen with that aplomb - I think her trick is to pretend it's an iconic role that's been embodied several times - is something else. I'd cast her in practically anything.
Miranda, nope, I haven't seen her live. I'm confident that she's awesome. Careful, though, she is NOT opera, at least from what I have seen/known. Opera is a VERY different animal. Nonetheless, as I've posted before, she's amazing. Much more lithe and acrobatic. The only riposte I offer is that, if you watch Ben, his technique and pure artistry, IMHO, beats her.
.... i dunno how i feel about this. leading player is good, but i definitely like ben vereen better. and what is this pippin even doing... i just don't think hes that good at this part. ehh whatever.
I can't even begin to wonder how one would even begin to explain how overrated she, and this entire revival, is. Also, her voice gave me a female boner.
