On Two Wheels - Short Shift! 2014 Ducati 899 Panigale vs. MV Agusta F3 800 

Keyboard warrior? Lol ok dude. You own both? Sure ya do. Sounds like you're the one that's full of shit here. Looking back at your comments you claim to own about ten different bikes. Let's see a video :).

Darwin Allen i really like both brands to be honest

Darwin Allen dude, I decided on the f3 because of the looks. I've seen the even more expensive ducs more often than the f3. those who complain about it's performance not being up to par with the Japanese bikes won't ever be taking the bikes to those limits anyways, I know I won't. I just want to enjoy riding it and looking at it.

yeah i argree with you man i have a z1000 2015 with trans logic quick sifter and akra full system with power commander tuned it was fast it handle good and was reliable but when i got on my friend monster 1200s with the termi slip on even thou there no perceivable real world advantage in both performance and usability in some instance even a disadvantage in some area i couldn't shake off the allure of the l twin it wasant faster but it just feels special it feels amazing the tft screen the design yes its more expensive and its not actually faster or economical or as reliable but when you ride it you never really feel its overpriced i think its like Ferrari yes there a Nissan that will beat it in every conceivable test you wish to perform and is cheaper and more reliable buts its not objective test that define the bike its the subjective nature of it they just somehow make you like them

"you can buy a cheaper bike that's faster or does things better in a lot of occasions but it doesn't make it a better bike", wow...that's funny. excuses of rich people, meh...

+Motorcyclist Magazine it's funny how your crap review contradicts all the credible bike journalist reviews. Plus it was one of the best selling bikes in 2014 (899). Unsubbed .

Ari never likes MV's even when they are good. I think he expects them to feel like a Japanese I4. I race a new gen F4 and when I switched from my GSXR I was thinking "this was a huge mistake". In reality, I'd not go back. The front end on the MV's is much better than the big 4 (both race bikes had GP 25mm carts). Don't believe everything a magazine rider tells you. Especially a 250 racer!! :P

Go check out motorcycle usa's shootout. I'm with Pridmore and Waheed. I think the MV's do have a shit interface, no doubt and they require a bit of setup to get right which makes it a bit harder. I think Ari and co. just need a bit of guidance.

There point is clearly that why pay 15,800 dollars for a bike that will be out performed in almost every category by a ZX10 for example. Seems like a waste of money....a lot of this comes down to value on a review like this. If you like the MV and think hey ill just throw away 3 grand on electronics go for it!

It won't get outperformed in handling by a zx10 and a zx10 can't race in a 750 class like this bike can. A zx10 also looks like shit compared to the F3.

***** Guess what a gsxr 750 and gsxr 1000 can't do anything better than the gsxr 600 except accelerate better in a straight line, so why pay the extra money for the others? Same arguement. You are biased dude. For some riders they are willing to pay that premium. The daytona is also ugly and sounds bad compared to the MV. Being a new rider, the only thing that halts me from the MV 800 atm is the ride by wire thing scares me. Besides that, we all make compromises for something we like.

mikeystocky ...... LOL

What is more comfortable for street ride?

Cuz you got a cough up A LOT of gold to pay up for one of these bikes. Not just one gold star... At least 5

I own the 899 and it doesn't have this issue.

Thanks, Laez. I just purchased the 1199S Panigale and I love it! It is VERY powerful on the street, but practicing throttle control. The black stealth is a beauty!

i'm shopping for a middle weight sport bike right now, can you explain briefly why you found the 899 to be the best ?

Ben Wiskin Itotally agree with you. I think the Ducatis throttle to rear wheel feedback is first class compared to MV ride by wire, but apart from ride by wire, the F3 captures everything I liked in my 848, RSV4R factory and earlier GSXRs.

Actually, those two bikes have stacked up the same way every time we've tested them. We've had the opportunity to ride almost every bike in every category, so our perspectives and opinions are based on loads of actual experience with the bikes in question. On top of it all the guys are impartial, so you're getting straight, unbiased info on performance and features. If you want to ignore the facts presented in these reviews then go ahead, but our guys know how to ride and know how to evaluate bikes.

​@@MotorcyclistMag maybe they know how to drive but they don't know how to make a review

I'm thinking the same...

These are sports bikes-you want comfort go ride an upright.

Mustang Wolf some sport bikes are more comfortable than others, ever put renthals or pro tapers on a CBR?

That only addresses your upper body, and yes, some sportbikes have risers on them already.

Mustang Wolf right but its still more upright.

Ok if we take comfort out of the equation their are less expensive equally capable sport bikes

I think u r sponsored by The MV Agusta to do such a comment!!!

They must've asked for a refund after 2:07 to 2:21

I have to agree with classax1. Most of the riders primarily buys these bikes due to their looks and performance as second options.I live in malaysia and this machine's doesn't come cheap. With price like this,we as a customer wants a good after sales service from this manufacturers.So far Ducati offers the best after sales service in Malaysia followed by BMW. The worse after sales service would have to be MV Agusta. RSV4 APRC factory = MYR120K Panigale R = MYR250K HP4 race package = MYR150K Panigale 899 = MYR 120K MV F3 = MYR 99K But end of the day all we want is to have fun with our bikes..

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Understand that the fastest bike isn't always the clearcut winner. Because, you know, not all of us are buying a superbike strictly for VR46 & MM93 wannabe work. Besides...A 1/2 second could be something as simple as a solid 9/10ths of a lap, and then doing something unrepeatable in turn X/Y/Z onto the back straight.

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+Dougie MV looks better. That's all that matters.

+♡ Kleinr Schmetterling ♡ (Liberty Schulz) it really doesn't sound better, especially when it's rattling it's self to bits lmao. Anyway I think mv Augusta have gone bust

Doubt you ever had a mv... i trashed on my 08 all the time track days.... racing highway... sold it with 43000km still running strong.... bought a 848 had it for 5 months ...drinks like a bish... gets too hot... cant see shit on mirrors.... lost all my love 4 it in months... im selling it now... back to f3 or a r6

rui castro Ducati wins world superbike and have more race wins than anyone else across all platforms.mv are bankrupt and shit. Fact.

Dougie "across all platforms" haahah love the supercross wins of ducati or the supermoto... or x games ... or the tt or dakar lol ducati doenst win on anything other then super curse(AMATEUR)..... all the le mans were won by yamaha...grand prix was won by kawasaki team.... you really dont know what you are talking about... you should go do some research.. best all across brand is yamaha... most wins on grand prix is honda!And guess what Mv Agust and Aprilia are ranked above Ducati on the list MV WITH 37 WINS.....Ducati guess how many? 1 YES 1..... stfu.. and think before talking... fanboy. FACT!

the funny thing is that if you watch MCN's review of the GSXR 750, F3 800, & 848 EVO Corse, you'll see that the MV was the fastest in every event & the GSXR 750 was the slowest in every event besides top speed [top speed is meaningless in the twisties - a.k.a. where these bikes were meant to be ridden in the first place].. the MV has better brakes, more power throughout the rev band, a quick-shifter, & better cornering/handling, so im not sure how you're arriving at it not being a good track bike.. the F3 800 hasn't once been rated as a bad track bike.. i know you're making that up - i already know you can't provide a single source to back yourself up.. please try finding a single shred of evidence to the F3 800 being anything but positive on the track & then i'll take you seriously. the F3 800 has but a few minor faults; some fuel mapping issues at low speeds [though this isn't anything new from an MV], a quirky quick-shifter, & an electronics package that is liked/disliked on an individual's taste [only an issue if you're a hardcore track junkie].. none of these are particularly off-putting for the average rider however.. what you meant to say was, "Seems like MV can't make a ROAD bike for anything. The bike is pretty much all show AND TRACK CAPABILITY cause the ride just sucks AT LOW SPEEDS &/OR IN TRAFFIC it seems. At least that's how it's rated.".

yuskjr I own #137 F3 800 AGO and it sucks at low speed or in traffic is not meant to go slow but on the freeway is a beast. I still love my bike can't stop staring at it.

I've seen a number of reviews/shootouts involving the 899 and most of them involve it coming up short. The 899 is a brilliant street bike though, especially compared to its bigger sibling, but if I wanted something with that class of power I'd get a 675R. It's a better track weapon out of the crate and the fully adjustable Ohlin's forks and shock can likely be tuned to replicate or approximate the 899's cushy ride on the street. Oh and it's a few grand cheaper. If you like the Duc by all means get it. Just don't do it thinking you've picked up a best in class machine. It's not.

BTrain5489 Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Each to their own I guess. In each persons eyes there is always something better out there regardless of what or how good it is.

It is.

Kevin Hart they are biased to Ducati but honestly I love both bikes but if you love your balls and want to have kids someday go with the MV it's much more balls friendly if I had to chose one but if I have money why not both but still the MV will be my daily bike the Ducati is just for Saturday or Sunday haha.

Dude lets be honest here you wont really find the performance and value aspect in a ducati or mv agusta to be competitive that is the Japanese market people buy it for the premium brand and the way it looks to tell you the truth i really dont give a shit which one ride better as long as they are still some how competitive to their class the ducati looks better in my opinion and have more refined electronics as well as better looking display you see this bikes are all about the way they lookfor example the s1000rr is a better bike then a 1199 panigale s no question about that in terms of performance and value in fact most inline 4 super bike is better and faster then the ducati but the panigale comes with the carbon fenders and rear huggers and nice brembo marchesini and ohlins all wrap up with the first every bike with tft display and led headlamps it look drop dead gorgeous and it sounds unique if i blindfolded you would be hard press to tell the different between the sound of s1k zx10r and cbr1000rr but the duc l twin now that is magnificent you i can attest to you as Japanese bike rider myself i traded my z1000 for a panigale 899 tell you the truth the z1k is more relaxing have better power and is easier to live with but the panig just looks so good that i dident regret the trade

M AL -- when you watch a 90 minute movie do you think it took 90 minutes to make it?