Onboard the Isle of Wight's New 484 Tube trains | Hidden London Hangouts (S04E10) 

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Cheek 😉

You should here me when I really get going! Fortunately I enjoy the Fab Four so much that you are saved my worst. It is really good to have you back.

@@daveharris7224 Good to be back!

I wish i was older when i rode the old stock, i didn’t appreciate it at the time because i was young, i will definitely at some point get on these trains just to see it one more time, good memories.

You’ll love it

They're lovely when they work. When they don't they're a pain - There are still only two serviceable units out of the five supposed to be entering service on the Island, with the service meant to start tomorrow. Even the '38 Stock managed more than that until 2019!

Good luck Daniel restoring the 38s that you’ve taken on. I look forward to doing a Hangout from your working units!

@@alexgrundon2346 Hopefully the wait won't be too long. Here's hoping for 006's entry into service (as hauled stock for now) in 2022! We'd be delighted to welcome the team to Wales whenever they felt like it, more or less.

I vividly remember guards hanging out of accelerating Northern line trains as the left stations too. Was a sight to behold

@@alexgrundon2346After giving the driver “the bell” Guards would often hit “ Guards Close” and hold the door open with a well placed heel so that stepping back inside as the platform headwall approached would allow the door to finally close, this wasn’t possible on the D Stock due to a different type of door unit with a stronger “door motor” , iirc the cab doors also had a pneumatic seal that operated as the door fully closed. The D Stock were great to work from a Guards perspective, although I note the remodelled cab has quite a cluttered drivers desk, with DStock cabs we used to wedge a (wooden) shoe lifting paddle between the drivers windscreen and M (?) door frame and the Control/reverser barrel to provide a “tea table” as there were no flat surfaces around the swivel seat in the cab. Nothing worse on a wet winters morning that trying to access a cab in depot via the (manually locked) door above the coupler (made a handy stepping point) and finding the door wedged close because the tea table hadn’t been removed by the previous crew 🤬 leading to fumbling and swearing while you tried to operate the (platform)cab door with your position switch key 😤😫 After OPO displaced Guards from the District we were placed in depots on other lines, I was at Morden working briefly as a guard before being offered a “motors” course at White City Training Centre (sadly no longer exists) so if you were watching that in the mid 80s, one of those Guards could have been me 😁. Happy Days. If I could go back in time , that’s where I’d go.

YES I remember guards keeping the door open with their DM boot!

Definitely don't have the same motor sounds - New AC motors have replaced the old DC ones, hence the high pitched whining noise you can hear. The deep growling noise is the gearing, which is I think still the same.

Yup the Spyglass and thanks so much for the kind words x

Welcome, Steady! You saw us! How brilliant. Hope you had a lovely trip.

Cool idea….. though I would love to do an episode on the 1956/59/62 stock…. If only Chris Nix loved them as much as me 🤣

"soon" for TfW, still not in service in August 2022

Just wait until you find out that there are tube trains that went from London to the Isle of Wight then on to Wales...

I’ll save one for you!

They start tomorrow (Monday)

@@alexgrundon2346 Yep 👍

Possibly but could we ever tell?

Most stocks have a slightly different whistle these days, although I think most of them are similarly high pitched (Bakerloo '72 Stock excepted), so in some places you can probably tell the difference by the whistle.

Great questions Laura. Different train stocks definitely have their own sounds depending on a host of different components including the gearboxes, motor drive systems, compressors, controllers, door mechanisms, whistles and so on. One Tube line even has one particular train that makes a sloshing sound when it brakes!

Actually the Class 503 gauging trials were carried out in 1983 (long after the tunnel floor was raised in the 1960s) and was deemed a success by the management at Ryde. Full details are in my book ‘Ryde Rail’.

No idea how they still sound like a D78 with the new AC traction motors making that high pitched whining noise.

We love Geoff and he’ll do us proud with his stuff. I BET he’ll be on the first passenger train on Monday morning

@@alexgrundon2346 I'm sure he will :) look forward to his video and trying out the accessibility of the new 484s

WE LOVE YOU! Thank you for making us so welcome. Hope you and the rest of the team enjoyed the show 😉

@@alexgrundon2346 definitely alot of hard work gone into them and this just helps to show so thankyou and was great seeing you again 😊

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Good question. I THINK it’s gone. But I’ll ask

As far as we are aware there is nothing left up there. the lift shafts were modified to be ventilation ducts and there is only a very high ladder for access.

I meant 483

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Preserved railways and sardine tins 🤣 x

Come to Wales and find out! We've got one and soon we'll have two under the care of the London Transport Traction Group at Cynheidre, Carmarthenshire.

It’s why I’ll never make the grade as a guard! 🤣

@@alexgrundon2346 That guy would be sacked as a guard for doing what he did. I was a guard for almost forty years and one vital part of the job was watching the doors close to make sure no-one was trapped in them before closing the local door and giving the "ready to start" signal to the driver.

I must stress…. I’m not a guard - although as you’ll hear in this week’s episode, the guard’s door and the passenger doors on the 484 class are all on the same circuit. When the train stops, you can depress the guard open door but it won’t open until the train has fully stopped.

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@@alexgrundon2346 Forgive my grumpiness. I love the features. Keep 'em coming.

You star. Thank you 😊

Enjoy it!

@@alexgrundon2346 I will

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Patreon! We can do this!

Ventnor station was 300 feet above sea level Try that on a wet day with luggage!

Many are being preserved in various locations which is great news. And the LT museum has a beautiful 38 stock train.

@@alexgrundon2346 Thanks Alex, I really have a soft spot for the 38 stock and have seen them in restored condition at bot the Covent Garden and Acton museums. They have so much character.

​ @Gary Cross ​ None gone for scrap yet. The few which were supposed be scrapped got listed on eBay for a ridiculous sum (£32k each). Two (122 and 225) have been bought and subsequently dispatched to a private site Wishaw. The other (129) is currently awaiting what will have to be a very substantial cosmetic restoration at the East Somerset Railway. The fourth vehicle which was originally destined for scrap (229) is stored at Reid Freight's Stoke-on-Trent yard. Of the officially preserved vehicles, 483004 is being cosmetically restored for use as cafe seating at Hollier's Farm on the Isle of Wight and 483007 is on display at the Isle of Wight Steam Railway. 483006 is settling into its new home at the Llanelli & Mynydd Mawr Railway in Carmarthenshire (South Wales) where restoration has begun under the auspices of the London Transport Traction Group. 483008 will be joining 483006 at the L&MMR when 484005 is finally completed.

@@DNash-wz3mz That is brilliant news. I don't suppose any trailers were preserved. I don't ever remember seeing any on the Isle of Wight

@@garycross228 Only one Trailer car and one Non-Driving Motor car are preserved, both by the London Transport Museum as part of set No.10012. You're correct that they never had Trailers or NDMs on the Island, running only as 2-Car units (or as several 2-Car units coupled together).

I’m not an expert on carriage lengths of different tube stock but I understand some were ruled out as their coach length was too long for the radii of some curves on the line. Perhaps the 83 stock had that issue but I must apologise for not being certain.

Electrictricity all the way!

@@alexgrundon2346 good stuff think it'll be the end.for old fuel runners ⁵

they're units, not locos.

See explanation below. Think “Tube Map” and “Tube Planner”. It’s in the style guide

I’m going to give you guys a namecheck in the coming weeks.

We’ll do mime next time 😉 thanks for watching

@@alexgrundon2346 Mr Hitchcock has something of a reputation for being disapproving of most things not originating from the Isle of Wight Steam Railway - I wouldn't take it to heart. And if you're reading this, Paul - I'm just joking. ;) You're rightly proud of the IoWSR and all that's been achieved at Havenstreet since 1971 to make it one of the UK's premier heritage lines.

@@DNash-wz3mzAs an example we heard a great deal about the I.O.W scenery but actually were shown hardly any of it. Chat did tend to conquer all.

The program is called Hidden London Hangouts, started by two friends who love all things London transport and each other. There is a large and enthusiastic following who treasure their chat and charm. Luckily for you, RU-vid is filled with other transport offerings that might best suit your interests. We want our presenters exactly as is-real life being so woefully light on loving and enthusiastic people.

And why comment that on here.

The name of the program is Hidden London Hangouts. The premise is four friends hanging out and sharing their love of all things London transport. They’ve been very clear about their agenda all along, and have collected the warmest and most excited group of enthusiastic fans who see this program for what it is-a labor of love. While there are other places online to listen to people talk about trains, you’d be hard pressed to find the chat and charm, the cheeky and the geeky, that thrives in this lovely space.

This is what we do, Michael. Thanks for giving us a go but perhaps we’re not your best destination.

Respectfully, I couldn’t disagree more heartily. I’ve been a fan of the program since the early days, haven’t missed an episode, and their chat and charm is what keeps me coming back. Tons of other content about London transport if this doesn’t take your fancy, but the hosts of HLH have an enthusiastic (adoring) following who see the show for what it is-a labor of love from one set of friends to another.

We’ll mime next time, Ian.

London Underground has long since used the the word “Tube” synonymously with the word “Underground”. Hence the entire map or the Underground is titled “Tube planner” on platforms and “Tube map” on pocket editions. TfL’s writing style guidelines also confirm this. It is also worth noting that the correct distinction is “subsurface” and “deep tube” rather than just “tube”, precisely to avoid potential confusion with the correct use of “the Tube” to refer to the whole system. Hope that clears things up.

They’re are former Tube Cars (Subsurface) that replaced the former Deep Tube cars.

The program is called Hidden London Hangouts, started by two friends who love all things London transport , and each other. The chattiness is part of the charm. My own RU-vid feed is flooded with other suggestions for this kind of material, so perhaps there’s a better fit for your interests elsewhere. There’s a large and enthusiastic following for the waffle here.

@@Hannahtheredhead2454 Yep. It was my first time seeing a video from this channel and I thought it was going to be more train related than waffle related, or 'charm' as you call it (smh) so yeah it seems my interest does lie elsewhere, bravo and big clap to you for being smart enough to point that out !!

@@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome you sound like a real ass burger. Not sure whether you're mocking people who have AS, or you have it yourself but you're doing it anyway.

It’s been a running joke since episode 1 of series 1. But glad you dropped by and enjoyed the content.

Personally, I love, and am deeply touched by, the glimpses of personal information the team shares with us-Siddy’s marathon training and moving house stress, Laura’s trips with her little ones, Chris’ plug obsession, Alex’s crushes. That’s what makes this place so special and real and genuine and authentic, a cut above the rest. My own YT feed is flooded with options for other London transport offerings, but this is the only channel that I found that makes me feel like it’s more than just a show; it’s a community of friends hanging out, hence the name. I feel privileged to be a part of a place that’s safe, loving, accepting, unconditional, tolerant. It’s such a refreshing change from, you know, real life.

Three of the four presenters are employees of the London Transit Museum, so I don’t see how you can accuse them of bandwagon jumping. And the little spy glass in the upper right hand corner of your screen is a search function for the kind of vibe you’re looking for on RU-vid that might be a better fit for you. Hidden London Hangouts isn’t for everyone, but those of us who gel with these good folks feel very protective of them and their offerings.

Thank you so much, Jennifer. As you say, there’s plenty out there and we do indeed all have feelings. So sweet you are a protector of mine! On the point that bloke makes, we try never to be dull like so much on the internet. And we’re never scripted. We’re unique in that way. And we like it that way x

@@Captainpubwatch The weight of speaking for so many must rest heavy on your shoulders. I wouldn’t have guessed there were that many people who shunned joy and shied away from good cheer, but you learn something new every day.