Once & For All... SPD or ATK% On Imbibitor Lunae | Full Guide, Showcase, Build, Team & Light Cones 

Totally agree with the notion of playing the game with characters you like. Way more satisfying for me than always following the meta, even if it's less efficient.

I had both atk and spd img boots w/ double crit stats so I was unsure which to use on my dhil. that is until I leveled both and the substats made the decision easier. speed boots won btw since the atk boots decided to roll on useless stats.

I love speed in any turn based game. Unless there's another characters that plays like Clara, I'm definitely giving everyone speed boots.

The amount of extra dmg from rutilant arena set bonus is really good.

the answer is pull luocha btw my 134spd imbabygirl lunae + 152spd e1 tingyun make me feel like i have his e2 so spd boot better if you have well build character

I love how when Code is explaining the relics and stats chat is just MALDING (rightfully so)

I much prefer having speed. Watching my units get whaled on by the enemy while I am desperately waiting for his action is painful

While he might have skip past it, Under the Blue Sky is one of DanIL best 4 star LC as the stats bonuses he get from it is pretty high and allows you to build more CDamage.

I love how E1 pretty much makes his elemental damage bonus double and its so satisfying

Very relatable stats code

The best piece I prefarmed for him was a speed boot. So you're saying I dont have to dumpster it after all?

honestly showcasing like this is more realistic than those videos where they just run 3 support 1 IL. I personally feel that having debuffers are also realistic in this sense since they're indirect buffers as well.

As someone who keeps rolling speed substats, my biggest challenge isn't to get my supports above 141 speed but rather trying to keep Danheng below 140, the moment I placed speed boots on him he already hit 138 speed 😖

I'm not 100% sure how the math works, but I think E1 Tingyun (+20% speed) w/ speed relic set (+12 speed) + E1 Yukong (+10% speed) can buff 102 speed Danny up to ~145 speed. Could also run Dance!x3 to go even faster. No need for speed boots on this team, I think?

at e2 for dan it doesn't feel like it matters if you at least have 110 speed. If you have a ting with e1+ and dance dance dance you are likely fine with attack boots. I got a luocha with his light cone and an e6 ting with si 5 dance . That said I am guilty of using blade lunae silver luocha XD it's just more fun and when you have blade and dan at e2 with their cones it doesn't matter if it is "optimal" anymore.....they are very dead.

if you think about it, 500% ATK damage with 3 SP is actually way more efficient than 220% ATK with 1 SP. If you let IL just do normal attack in his second and third turn, you'll generate extra 2 SP, and deal a total of 700% ATK damage on a single target with a sum total of 1 SP across 3 turns. This is also why even in an alternating playstyle he is still very strong. Of course in the real case scenario, other characters have other kit (like res pen in seele, follow-up attack and whatnot), not mentioning supports, so it's not that simple, but it's still something to keep in mind.

None of my supports have hit over 140 speed 😭

You can almost push a two turn ult with lc and bronya if you have bronya go a bit slower and danIL you can hit a non boosted basic for a bit extra energy and then take another turn with bronya and use the booster attack to get more energy if you get hit or kill you can get a 2 turn ult. Though this set up needs a lot of speed tuning

People always forget ting buffs speed too! just run atk% and 12 speed for 134 speed with ting buff

My f2p everyday lineup for him are fire mc, natasha, yukong, daniel. During defensive state to cycle point, enemy can target MC, ensuring yukong & daniel not die lmao

I tried atk vs spd boots on him on MOC 1 for a test and he finishes 2 cycles faster on spd boots. Just make the other units faster than him and everyones above 134 and it's fine. All my good rolls went into spd anyway lol.

I got a some pretty good stats on my imagine dragon.Thing is that he was kinda beefy but i just thought that was because he was a destruction character turns out i was running hp% boots on him...

So I have DHIL in e2, with s5 Aeons since I decided to go for his eidolons instead, i decided to make his team with Yukong e6 with the asta lightcone, Welt e1 with eye of the prey and Luocha e0 with time waits for no one. Is this a suitable team with their weapons or should i still change some things?

I play him with bronya her own LC, yukong for planetary... so sometimes u get that double crit ulti from them and he his so hard

this is genshin all over again, completely overpowered characters making the content trivial to complete

Everyone should build their characters to have the maximum amount of fun they can, and different people have fun in different ways! Some people like "Unga Bunga Big Number", and some people like to play the Initial D soundtrack in the background while they game. Code seems to like the "Gas Gas Gas" playstyle, which is fine. ...but it is by no means his best. Attack Boots really are just better: you can see it in the damage he's dealing. 2300 attack is a crime, you're basically wasting all of the buffs that he's giving himself, all of his Crit Damage, and his Imaginary Relic. There IS a breakpoint around 2800-3000 where Attack starts to lose value compared to Crit Damage/Damage%, but with Speed Boots, your relics needs to be absolutely GODLY to get to that point. Yeah, 134 speed is nice, but taking 2-3 extra turns in 7 cycles isn't worth it if you're not getting a 3 stack Basic every time, and when you DO, it's tickling the enemy for like 60k. No WONDER Code keeps saying that Daniel's damage averages out with other Main DPS: it's because he's legitimately building him to go fast, deal less damage, and brick on skill points.

Can you ever make us a short video on your routine for exp your characters without using your exp books? Otherwise thank you for your videos it helps enormously to understand the mechanics.

It was strange that ppl were raging over 500% skill dmg from a 3 point attack, when you have phys MC who can hit for 450% with her ult almost every other turn.

ATK% boots feels better imo. And spd tuning supports is easier.

Mr Chode as a Steel main that breaks the rules everytime. What do you say is her best Lightcone?

I got him to cover his element, the same way i got Luocha. Now I Just need a Hunter. ^^) Even having Himeko, i guess my next Unit gonna be a fire Hunter.

That Yukong omg

I haven't tested an attack rope but even with his light cone I got an energy regeneration rope since I feel he will have enough attack from tingyun and other level buffs but being able to use his burst almost every turn feels soooo good. I do really good damage without an atk rope and just atk boots Edit: my current team comp Lil Geppy, Nat-doc.exe, Foxian beauty prime, pretty boy Dragon Nuke

Does it have to be 134 or 135 SPD or can he be slightly faster? My Daniël is at 140 SPD, and his supports all have more SPD than him. It seems to work.

Yo uhhh question How much is arena better than SSS i mean by % like is it better by 10% 5% or hm

Do the speed of the supports just need to be a bit faster than Daniel? Like I have Daniel at 135 spd, so does that mean I just need the supports to have 136+ spd or do they need like a specific higher amount than that?

Me the guy who have atk boot cause i have 0 good speed boot, but every pieces of my set have atleast 2 speed on it, so it became 119 speed without the speed boot, is it ok?

Surely the background music is from Digimon World 3? Or am I tripping?

I'm using him with speed boots and energy rope. Luocha, Pela, Tingyun and Daniel. I have zero problems with skill points, BUT pela have to always basic attack. Which I'm fine with. If he get's hit a lot, then I can cast ult faster and I have points for Pela to use. I'm enjoying him, even though my artifacts are trash.

Me, who actually got "lucky" to roll 9 speed on piece with (atk%\cr\cd\spd)... JUST LET DAN SLOW! I just wan't to tell you the difference from my perspective between speed boots and atk% if someone even care. I swapped aeon to signature and speed boots with 11%cd to atk boots with 5-6 cr\cd. So the highest number i managed to achieve on the word boss was about 330k, now i hit for 406-480 (can't tell what makes such gap, probably crit). But sometimes i feel like he is lacking of speed... like nobody need so much damage but u could kill those mobs to prevent them even move.

it took everything i had to get blade to 134 i can't imagine being able to get characters above that.

I dont need Speed boots if they die in 2 turns.

wait, is that ffxiv music in the background? xD

I have him at 115 speed with tingyun E1. It is just enough to get to 134+ speed, so I will keep him with atk boots

Himeko does 220% for 1 skill point, but she is also taking 3 turns to spend 3 skill points, Imbibitor Lunae spends 3 skill points in one turn. That means he has better control when to do burst damage and actually does more damage and spends less skill points in some sense: 500% + 2 x normal attack vs 3x220% by Himeko. Maybe I am missing something... (and then the bonus stats on top)

We have a healer that only heals with their skill and an ult that does damage. Now we need a healer that only heals with their ult and their skill deals damage.

I got him on a 4* LC called clear blue sky but I wanna put him on the BP one no where to run. So far he's lvl 70 and the most I'm hitting is 9-10k with 3 skill points......I really do suck

without watching the video, depends on comp, but ATK% for sure

because of loving atk% yukong is good with him no?

He's so much better with atk.

Relics take too much effort n rng. He's gonna get a decent crit value n thats good enough

I dont even have enough credit to level up all my characters that i usually use. Sadge

His name is Dan Heng not Daniel ffs

Just get 135 speed and as much ATK%/CRT DMG/CRT RATE as possible for your DPS. Also your support has to have enough requirement stat (example ATK% for Tingyun, CRT DMG for Bronya), extra SPD stat, 30% or more Effect Res, Charge rope. Right. that sound EZ if i can draw the stat for my relics

The things I'd do for those boots

I’m stuck at 133 speed for him, lol.

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Just farm relics to make your supports crazy fast

I call him Imagine Dragon *smug*

Energy regen globe relic.. vs ATk% relic globe?

Which is better support for IL, a fast E1S1 bronya or E6 tingyun?

E2 Dan plays completely differently in comparison to E0 his break potential and damage output plus energy regen is so much more

Using him with blade and jingyuan so i opted for atk bc i cannot w the skill points-

i have a spd problem lol, i use 4pc spd set on tingyun and have raw stats of 156 spd, luocha on 138 spd and dh il at 137 spd. i want luocha to atk first so i can generate skill points but when i use tingyun ult on dh IL, he outspeeds luocha....... i cant shuffle my relics bcs theyre limited. even i want dh il's spd to go down, i just cant 💀

I finally beat mox 6 with JY and Him :))))) full star baby. Kafka taking 250 k dmg from a slow heng with e6 sub dps yukong and a def shred pela .

This guide came in clutch I wanted 1 asta to get her to E6 And as i was at pity 44 i decided to try and get her as there was "no chance" i get a 5* this early 2 pulls later and on pity 46 i get him(won the 50/50 too) I was like damnnn ig i need insane luck to get fu xuan now(i alr got all the mats for her and even boight the herta lc and fot it to S5) I was like ig now i can get asta without worrying ab getting another dan heng 2 pull later (pity 2) i get him again.... Now i decided to try and get him to E2 as it makes him even more op So now i have no 5* lc for him (bc i wasted all the tickets on the preservation one),no good artifact set and no mats😢😢 Ig i will have to wait till fu xuan rerun to get her

Me watching this video while losing my 50/50 to clara hmmm he's op 😢😢😢

Well, i got lightcone in 27/30 n daniel in like 75ish 🥺😭😭😭😭 I need 2 more i want E2 daniel

Just put purple speed boots on daniel he will still be slower than everyone else

My Dan is doing more dmg than his and I have only 77% crit rate and 110% crit dmg with an S5 Fall of Aeons. It seems 4 pc imaginary set and 2pc rutilant set is better than random pieces to get 88% crit rate and 180%+ crit dmg. I'm still farming to get a Crit Dmg body with high crit rate so I can get a higher crit dmg %.

Yeah you need speed in MOC because the new waves come in and out speed you while DHIL is a glass cannon.

Pls tell straight: if i don't have Luocha i am f**ed in building dan team right?((

pepeW

it feels like hes using him wrong or am i dumb?...

speed boost are trash if E2 or more

So glad I didn't pull for Kafka.

80/180 cr cd jesus 😂 give me that.

I completly understand that SPD does feels more comfortable, but it is downright impossible to get good speed stats as F2P. Like, I'm literally playing since release and only got 3 or 4 spd boots with main stat, talk about actually getting speed in substat. The new set does help tho.

Luocha, IL, Tingyun and Yukong not viable team with Yukong going SP neutral?

Ayy code what black magic fkry is this? I was in chat when you recorded this 1hr20 min Daniel guide.. you tryna hide your poor editors workplace abuse huh

I hope this helps me want to build Dan Heng IL again, I got him, built him, played a sim universe, got bored LOL

I don’t have tingyun

lmao... my dan ults every two turn... regen rope is broken

Bro forgor about Lukas💀

ATK > SPD Boots

Pulled him by accident with 1 ticket, after committing the sin of "building pity" and I gotta say... He's kinda underwhelming despite my relics having good substats... Maybe he really was overhyped, or maybe it's just that the people expected more out of him. I already gave him 72% Crit Rate 160 Crit DMG, done multiple main stat combinations with him yet he still feels... lacking, and I just can't pinpoint what that is or where it's from. If I were to build him, he's likely just gonna be an Imaginary breaker for me and nothing else.

For turn based game speed is king

Bruh the fastest unit on my account is 134 😂😂😂 yall here saying supports should be 150 😂😂😂

Under Blue Sky is the best 4* option for Dan Heng IL lol.

About Tingyun though, I am slowly pivoting into the idea that his best support may be Asta especially if you got his E2 because it's really awkward to rebuff him with Tingyun because it only lasts for 3 turns whereas Asta's attack bonus is global and tied to her own turns only. Also, it leads to more consistent play because of the speed buff that if you compare it long-term, should have a similar effect to Tingyun. 12% bonus imaginary plus the potential burst buff from Yukong is also juicy though, and currently she's the only user who can use Planetary Randezvous until we get harmony MC. Harmony MC will be an interesting character to eventually pair with Danny.

Code needs correction 😭😭😭💢💢💢

spd or atk i imagine that inbibitor lunae is skill hungry character, if you put spd and got high speed then the skill point issue will be big and you cant even use his 3 skill point basic attack every turn then. still the same damage cause of skill point issue

His argument: "just get to 134 speed for IL and make your supports have 150 speed 4head"

Foxian hate is reall

I swear code’s takes are always super far into the other side of most other creators like he says the herta destruction cone is terrible and now he says speed is good but everyone else is like in the middle but like it seems like code is like all the way for speed boots

Pela stupid auto ai spamming skill makes auto shit lmao unless theres a feature to prio basic attack

Hsr players are allergic to speed boots.

Dude non of these streamers know what the hell there talking about or at best give the most luke warm advice and keep saying just play who you like ... like ok cool i know that i aint just making teams of characters i just despise until all these CC told me not to. Most people are either looking for breakdowns of characterss teams and other new content when its released or just enjoy the sounds you make and your bright colors soothe them so your basically just a nightlight at that point.. Pay to win tactics thought they do work they are not the end all be all these and other concent creators on honkai or genshin are playing you and getting rich of your backs ..i cant make you any money or anything but i can guarantee that using a more strategy based outlook over grind mindset is plausible and i can prove itt by doing a 1v1 against any top creator who thinks they knowledgeable about this, I know 1v1 sounds goofy af like this aint that type of game right?? Ive been droning on to much already but feel free to dm or just message me and i will break it down more -Maxim CSaLTon

His damage is so unfair compare to other Erudition character. Erudition characters has one job and that is dealing AOE damage. Dan Heng steal their job and do it better. What's the point of Erudition character anymore, if Destruction character can deal AOE damage better than them?

does asta works as a sub for Tingyun? IL,asta,pela. luocha