One in Essence, Three in Person: The Mystery of the Trinity with R.C. Sproul 

1) Trinity/mysterious trinity god of three persons (1+1+1=1) -- the doctrine of the people in the world whose god is the idiot god of this world that blinded the world and (2Cor. 4:4) AND whose Christs are the false Christs/god the son, god the Word, mighty god, creator god, man god (Matt. 24:24) "legacy" will END -- END OF THE WORLD IN HELL FIRE (Matt. 13:38-40). 2) MONOTHEISM/ONE GOD DOCTRINE (Ex. 20:3, John 17:1-3) -- the DOCTRINE of the CHOSEN PEOPLE/ELECT/LITTLE FLOCK of the LORD JESUS CHRIST/SON (Luke 12:32) whose GOD and FATHER is the ONLY TRUE GOD (John 17:1-3) -- the GOD and FATHER of the LORD JESUS CHRIST/SON and his LITTLE FLOCK/SONS/CHILDREN OF GOD (John 20:16-17) and whose "legacy" will remain and continue in the NEW BEGINNING -- ETERNAL LIFE in the KINGDOM OF GOD. 3) It's a CHOICE!

I'm a former OP too. Nice to meet you. I don't fully see it yet, but I'm getting there. There are still some things I struggle to grasp about the Trinity.

@@thegreatestoftheseislove1c379 . It is when someone is able to see God the Father , Jesus Christ , and the Holy Spirit as someone personal such as the fact that they speak , they love , the Holy Spirit leads and guides , the Holy Spirit convicts Christians of sin , God the Father has a will , and Jesus Christ did His Father's will , Scripture is clear that there is only one God and one Spirit .The one Spirit is capable of existing personally as God the Father , Jesus Christ , and the Holy Ghost . Many professing Christians are not willing to take the time to analyze Scripture regarding the identity and existence of God . That is why many of them tell lies about the doctrine of the Trinity . The concept of the Trinity existed in Scripture long before it became a doctrine by name . It did not come from a pagan doctrine like many Oneness Pentecostals ignorantly believe .

@@billiskra2073 Amen. There is such a deep reverence, and fear about our Mighty God. I am humbled by this Trinity that I am getting to know. His thoughts are so much deeper and higher than mine, I can only bow down and worship. He is Holy, Holy, Holy.

@@thegreatestoftheseislove1c379 , Thank you for your inspiring words . There are many professing Christians who need to learn to be humble and realize that God has made it possible to know who He is according to what is in Scripture . God the Father knows who Jesus Christ is . Jesus Christ knows who God the Father is.God the Father knows who the Holy Spirit is . The Holy Spirit knows who God the Father and Jesus Christ are . I am amazed that all of the authors of Scripture were inspired by God to write about God in such a way that there is no doubt who God the Father , Jesus Christ , and the Holy Spirit are . Many professing Christians use sources outside of the Bible to refute what is in the Bible . That is what is wrong with Christianity today .

can u guys help me im a former OP to still cant get it i want to but i resist it their for i cant read the bible

This isn't the "mystery of godliness". This is :" These things I write to you, though I hope to come to you shortly; 15 but if I am delayed, I write so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and [a]ground of the truth. 16 And without controversy great is the [b]mystery of godliness: God[c] was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory. I've been studying on the trinity for a while now and can I just say that there is a genuine need for thorough comprehensive study of the fundamental Bible truths we hold. People rely so much on the Pope, pastors, prophets and others to teach them the Bible, that they are prone to putting the pastor's word above the Lord's. We need to study the Bible ourselves through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. We have to allow God to speak for Himself. This is what God has opened my eyes to, now I see why sometimes Athiests and Agnostics and people of other faith think Christians are brainwashed, because we rather rely on pastors and church leaders to teach us about God other than having a relationship with God, studying His word, and questioning the doctrines that we are taught. The Lord laid it on my heart to tell you this. To tell anyone that would listen this. The doctrine of the trinity is false. I've studied the history of the trinity, tracing from Athanasius to Constantine and thanks to the Holy Spirit, I've left that belief. I believe in Jesus Christ, He is the Father incarnated. The Father, Son, and HS are not sperate "persons" but one person who has revealed Himself in more ways than one. It's important to know, especially when telling others about our faith, the truth about out beliefs. The Trinity has always been a hot topic in the church for centuries after Jesus ascended. It's nothing new. This is a brief summary of the history concerning this doctrine. But centuries ago, in the late 200s and early 300s, the leaders of the Christians church were trying to figure out what the NT books meant when they talked about the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Because we have to note that the NT books were compiled around the 3 or 4 century. And this caused confusion The church leaders had no idea the relationship between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. So out of confusion they began coming up with theories, marking out their positions, kicking each other out of the church, and breaking up (this is one of the things that caused the East and West schism which was the break of communion between the Catholic church and other churches) and they told everyone who didn't believe in their doctrine that they would go to hell. The topic of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit was one of, if not the biggest topic among Christian leaders in the year 325. The Roman Emperor Constantine who is sometimes seen as "the first Christian" emperor when in reality the guy was a pagan and saw religion as a way to expand and unite his empire. So Constantine along with some of the church bishops held a council in the town called Nicaea, and these bishops came up with the first version of the statement of faith that attempted to define the relationship between the Son and the Father. The statement they drafted is called the Nicene Creed which is what the vast majority of Christians and Christian churches have accepted as essential doctrine. And yet this is where the church got off track why? because although the Nicene creed does not contain the words "trinity" or "persons" (neither does the Bible by the way), what it DID say about the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit set the church on a course towards the doctrine of the Trinity of persons. One or 2 centuries later, the Athanasian creed, another statement of faith which was composed and assembled by St Athanasius, greatly expanded on the Nicene creed and DID include the words "trinity" and persons. This introduced contradiction, confusion, and polytheism into the church even though no one wants to admit it. (notice how none of them, not the church fathers, not Tertullian, or even St. Athanasius called upon the Lord, like the people in the Bible did. Whenever the children of the Lord wanted to know about God they called to Him and He answered. But in this situation, no one did that. None of them claim to even be inspired by God. All of this confusion was created by men trying to figure God out without the Spirit of God. God is not the author of confusion, but we get ourselves confused when we don't consult God about anything.

@@viviennebaptiste You're supposed to turn in your thesis to your professor, not post it to RU-vid.

@@viviennebaptiste You stated, "... Jesus, He is the Father incarnated. The Father, the Son, and HS are not separate "person" but who has revealed Himself in many ways." 1) Please give your biblical references on what you stated. 2) Based on what you stated, how'd you relate it to the following verses: "John 17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee; 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent." a) The LORD JESUS CHRIST directly said and revealed that the FATHER is the ONLY TRUE GOD; therefore, SON/JESUS CHRIST IS NOT GOD, otherwise he's a false god. b) And JESUS CHRIST, being the SON, he is not the FATHER, otherwise he's the Father of himself and the Son of himself. Absurd. c) The FATHER sent HIS SON/JESUS CHRIST; therefore, the Father sent himself being also the Son. Absurd. d) The FATHER gave power to the SON/JESUS CHRIST; therefore, the Father is the giver and the recipient of what he gave being the Son. Absurd. e) The SON/JESUS CHRIST prayed to the FATHER; therefore, the SON/JESUS CHRIST prayed to himself or talking to himself being the Father also. Absurd. f) The FATHER to whom the SON/JESUS CHRIST prayed was in HEAVEN; the SON/JESUS CHRIST was here on earth and yet ...??? g) Your belief or doctrine is as unbiblical, confusing, and absurd as the mysterious trinity god of three persons of pagan origin with its 1+1+1=1 mathematical -- an idiotic doctrine and equation which are totally devoid of TRUTH and LIGHT -- babylon/confusion.

1) "outstanding teacher" whose doctrine is the mysterious trinity god of three persons (1+1+1=1) -- an idiotic doctrine and equation which are totally devoid of TRUTH and LIGHT. 2) The GREATEST and "outstanding teacher" is the LORD JESUS CHRIST/SON whose DOCTRINE is MONOTHEISM/ONE GOD DOCTRINE -- the FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD (John 17:1-3) -- a REVEALED DOCTRINE which is so EASY to UNDERSTAND and FULL OF LIGHT.

"Genius??? -- 1+1+1=1 mathematical equation for the trinity/ mysterious trinity god of three persons he preaches -- an idiotic doctrine and equation which are totally devoid of TRUTH and LIGHT.

Please, confront the doctrine of the Trinity with what the Lord Jesus said in John 17:3 concerning His Father being the only true God.

​​@@jb_1971 Amen. They are all literally so spellbound by their idol that they don't seem to notice that during this talk he basically calls Jesus and God "liars" and "hypocrites" because the Biblical Greek word for "hypocrites" refers to ACTORS playing ROLES and wearing MASKS. That's exactly what Sproul (so evidently in love with pagan philosophers too) does here in defining "three personas". All Trinitarians call Jesus a liar because they imply he "pretended" to be born, pretended to be a man, pretended to be tempted, pretended to die etc. Trinitarians (and Modalists) ignore and despise the first epistle of John because it warns them and exposes them. It was written to defend the identity of Jesus against Gnostics and we need it today more than ever. "Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ ["God's anointed one"]? He is antichrist, that denies the father and the son" (1st John 2:22) "Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh ["sarx/sarki"] is of God. And every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world" (1st John 4:2-3) ‭"When Jesus came into the coasts of Cæsarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying "Who do men say that I, the son of man, am?" And they said: "Some say that you are John the Baptist: some, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets". He asked them: *But who do you say that I am* And Simon Peter answered and said: *You are the Christ, the Son of the living God* And Jesus answered and said unto him: *Blessed are you* Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood has not revealed it unto you, but my Father who is in heaven" (Matthew 16:13-17)

He inserted his own views and personal biases into Scripture all the time. He was just too subtle for most people to notice. Listen again to the first few minutes. He cannot simply read the text without inserting stuff like "deity" which isn't there. He reads out Hebrews chapter one which repeatedly calls Jesus the SON of God. And then he goes on to imply that Jesus wasn't really a son... Because if he's a "DEITY" then he's not really a son i.e he wasn't born (and wasn't "conceived" in the womb of Mary) and the Gospel accounts of Jesus's birth are lies and Jesus also pretended to be just a man. By Jesus constantly omitting to say he was GOD, he was essentially lying. That's what Trinitarians, who are in love with doctrines of man, say. Sproul then goes on to explain that "persons" don't mean "persons" and he probably goes to great lengths to do that because Jesus says "God is a SPIRIT" in John chapter 4. He's certainly not a "person". But Sproul talks about MASKS, which ACTORS playing ROLES used. Did you know that the Biblical Greek word for "hypocrites" refers to the SAME THING i.e actors wearing masks??!! He's calling God and Jesus "hypocrites" and "liars" and you don't even notice because like most, you're mesmerized by his supposed "cleverness". Well, Satan is clever too. GOD is CLEAR and transparent, not subtle and "clever". It's the last straw when Sproul - out of pure vanity - then (like Roman Catholic academics) appeals to PAGAN Greek philosophy. The Catholic doctrine of Transubstantiation comes from a concept by the pagan Aristotle. Pagan philosophy is OF THE WORLD! It has nothing to do with the wisdom of GOD: 1 Corinthians 1:17 thru 2:16. Why not just accept Jesus's affirmation of Peter's declaration of his identity in Matthew 16?? 👇 Jesus calls him "BLESSED". I strongly suggest you repent of idolizing men and put your trust in what Jesus says about himself. God is his father, indwelling him (John 14:10-11) and the Holy Spirit is the spirit of God. It's very simple. PS I'm no modalist either because it is insanity. There is one God, one son of God and Messiah ("God's anointed one") and one Holy Spirit. "When Jesus came into the coasts of Cæsarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying "Who do men say that I, the son of man, am?" And they said: "Some say that you are John the Baptist: some, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets". He asked them: *But who do you say that I am* And Simon Peter answered and said: *You are the Christ, the Son of the living God* And Jesus answered and said unto him: *Blessed are you* Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood has not revealed it unto you, but my Father who is in heaven" (Matthew 16:13-17)

"... can teach" false doctrine -- the trinity/mysterious trinity god of three persons of pagan origin -- a Goliath like doctrine that extends beyond the walls -- from paganism to false Christianity in the world with its 1+1+1=1 mathematical -- an idiotic doctrine and equation which are totally devoid of TRUTH and LIGHT -- a contaminating doctrine that has contaminated all the doctrines of the professing Christians and Christian churches in the world/babylon, confusions/divisions -- destined/prophesied to END -- END OF THE WORLD (Matt. 13:38-40).

Sproul did not clarify anything about the Trinity, which would be impossible. Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christ allow a council of men to come together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men.

Last sentence... And I am with you...... Hmmm Not WE are with you?????

Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christ allow a council of men to come together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men.

​@@S.R.M. Exactly. It is a man made, antichrist doctrine that stops people from having a relationship with God THROUGH Jesus ("one mediator between God and man, the *man* Christ Jesus"), which misrepresents God and Jesus and which convinces people that they cannot be like Jesus (because "he's God" 🤦🏻‍♀️) which is what we're CALLED to be!! Have you noticed that Trinitarians and Modalists HATE and ignore the first epistle of John?? That's because it challenges and exposes them. And warns them, especially in 1st John 4:2-3. Jesus calls Peter "blessed" for declaring his identity. He also never contradicts John the Baptist, Nathaniel, Martha or anyone else for declaring him as SON OF GOD and MESSIAH ("God's anointed one"). Jesus would never say God indwells him (John 14:10-11) if he actually is God. It would make no sense. But that's what Trinitarians imply: that it was all a big pretense, from his birth to his temptations to his death (because Scripture tells us he was CONCEIVED in Mary's womb and it also tells us that God cannot be tempted and cannot die. So they're either very wrong or Scripture is). ‭"When Jesus came into the coasts of Cæsarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying "Who do men say that I, the son of man, am?" And they said: "Some say that you are John the Baptist: some, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets". He asked them: *But who do you say that I am* And Simon Peter answered and said: *You are the Christ, the Son of the living God* And Jesus answered and said unto him: *Blessed are you* Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood has not revealed it unto you, but my Father who is in heaven" (Matthew 16:13-17)

SHOCKER: THE APOSTLES NEVER BAPTIZED A SINGLE PERSON UNDER THREE ANYTHING, MATHEW 28;19 SAYS IN THE NAME (SINGULAR) THAT NAME IS JESUS CHRIST, AND THE APOSTLES ALWAYS BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST , ALWAYS AND ONLY, NO SINNERS PRAYER, NO TRINITY WAS EVER MENTIONED JAMES 2;19

GOOGLE "EVERY BAPTIZM IN THE BIBLE, YOU WILL NEVER SEE ANY 3 NAME BAPTIZM, FATHER IS A TITLE, SON IS A TITLE, HOLY GHOST IS A TITLE ISAIAH 9; 6 CALLS JESUS CHRIST, THE SON, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, THE MIGHTY GOD,SINCE THE APOSTLES NEVER TAUGHT THE SINNERS PRAYER TO ANYONE, NEVER BAPTIZED UNDER 3 ANYTHING, NEVER MENTIONED ANY TRINITY, DO THE APOSTLES LOOK LIKE TRINITARIANS TO YOU? ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE GOD AND FATHER OF ALL, WHO IS ABOVE ALL, AND THROUGH ALL, AND IN YOU ALL EPHESIANS 4;3-6

Yep and just like at the Transfiguration, God says "This is my SON". Those who call Jesus "God" are calling God a liar. God indwelling Jesus (according to Jesus in John 14:10-11) is very different from him being a deity. In fact, he wouldn't have said God INDWELLS him if he was God because it would have made no sense. God indwelling us through the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17, Romans 8:9, 1 Corinthians 3:16 etc) does not make us God! It's very clearly laid out in the first epistle of John in particular (where there are also warnings) but that letter is hated and ignored by Trinitarians and Modalists. Woe unto them. ‭"When Jesus came into the coasts of Cæsarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying "Who do men say that I, the son of man, am?" And they said: "Some say that you are John the Baptist: some, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets". He asked them: *But who do you say that I am* And Simon Peter answered and said: *You are the Christ, the Son of the living God* And Jesus answered and said unto him: *Blessed are you* Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood has not revealed it unto you, but my Father who is in heaven" (Matthew 16:13-17)

Jesus is not God in the flesh? Read John Chapter 1 everybody. The whole chapter. No denying that Jesus is God in the flesh, regardless of what cults say.

100.00 reward: present first the sinners prayer book chapter and verse, now do the same with the trinity. yes the trinity is absurdly catholic. yes, at the council of nicea. it cant be removed from history books. another angle, lets give the sinners prayer a chance first, jesus chose 12 apostles, the were to preach the gospel to all nations jesus told them and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, beginning at jerusalem luke 24;44, jesus was just risen from the dead, that marks the new testament beginning yet beginning at acts 2;38- the apostles began spreading the gospel. book chapter and verse, when did the apostles preach a set of words to repeat as in the sinners prayer to anyone? according to every trinitarian anything, this shows the apostles ignored jesus, picture this: jesus is screaming ! no peter! why arent you having those people repeat the sinners prayer??? and why did the apostles fail to ever explain something that would be of paramount importance like the trinity? sin is explained everywhere in the bible as is repentance and baptism in jesus name for the remission of sins? why does jesus say he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. but he that believeth not shall be damned? and not he that believeth and repeats the sinners prayer ???

@@johnsonjamison9101 YOU are cults and the entire chapter of 1st John (AND 2nd John, especially verse 7) declares REPEATEDLY the identity of Jesus as son of God and Messiah. 1st John is a letter I have read hundreds of times (definitely more than any Christian I know but since they barely read it, that wouldn't be difficult!). You need to also pray and THINK because any honest person would admit that this epistle in particular (especially the grave warnings in 1st John 4:2-3 & 2nd John v.7) would look VERY different if Jesus was "God". God indwelt Jesus (John 14:10-11) and Jesus now sits at the right hand of God (aswe're told repeatedly). Neither of these facts make sense if Jesus IS God. I suggest you read your New Testament AD IT'S WRITTEN without interpreting everything according to your doctrine of man and following men like the despot and self-confessed murderer Calvin and the semi-pagan Augustine (whose "De Trinitate" influenced too many carnal men at the time, while the Council of Nicea used carnal manipulation and enforcement). Jesus is called our brother twice or three times in the NT. God is father. I tremble for people like you if you'll have to explain to God one day that you didn't believe "son" really meant son, you didn't believe Jesus was actually BORN, truly died or that God rose him from the dead...

Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christ allow a council of men to come together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men.

One of the big problems with that understanding is that one of those "centers of mind" died. No part of God dies.

100.00 reward: present first the sinners prayer book chapter and verse, now do the same with the trinity. yes the trinity is absurdly catholic. yes, at the council of nicea. it cant be removed from history books. another angle, lets give the sinners prayer a chance first, jesus chose 12 apostles, the were to preach the gospel to all nations jesus told them and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, beginning at jerusalem luke 24;44, jesus was just risen from the dead, that marks the new testament beginning yet beginning at acts 2;38- the apostles began spreading the gospel. book chapter and verse, when did the apostles preach a set of words to repeat as in the sinners prayer to anyone? according to every trinitarian anything, this shows the apostles ignored jesus, picture this: jesus is screaming ! no peter! why arent you having those people repeat the sinners prayer??? and why did the apostles fail to ever explain something that would be of paramount importance like the trinity? sin is explained everywhere in the bible as is repentance and baptism in jesus name for the remission of sins? why does jesus say he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. but he that believeth not shall be damned? and not he that believeth and repeats the sinners prayer ???

@@AlfredGallegos-no4pb john 14:15If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. 16And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Advocate to be with you forever- 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot receive Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him.

@@Aldarionz9 philip asked JESUS, LORD, show us the father and it will suffice us, JESUS SAID UNTO HIM, PHILLIP. HAVE I BEEN SO LONG A TIME WITH YOU AND YET HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME? IF YOU LOVE ME, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS, HERE IS JESUS AGAIN, HE THAT BELIEVETH AND IS BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED, BUT HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT SHALL BE DAMNED MARK 16;16 BAPTIZED HOW? AND FOR WHAT? ACTS 2;38 SAYS IN THE NAME OF JESUS, AND FOR FORGIVENESS OF SINS, IN THE WORDS YOU POSTED JESUS HAD NOT YET BEEN CRUCIFIED AND HAD NOT YET BEEN GLORIFIED, HAD NOT YET BORN OUR SINS THE RISEN AND GONE TO HEAVEN TO HIS RIGHTFULL PLACE, GOD, IS A SPIRIT AND HE CAME DOWN AND TOOK ON FLESH WHEN WE WERE BORN WE TOOK ON FLESH BUT WE DONT LIVE IN 3 SEPERATE PLACES, AND FATHER? THE EVERLASTING FATHER, THE SON, THE MIGHTY GOD, IS JESUS ISAIAH 9;6

There are some 30 + twists on the trinity ,7 of them are in well known churches Which one is the true trinity ? they can't be all be true , they even debate with one another over the matter !!!

Brilliant teaching? It's all pagan and you are ALL closet Catholics. R.C. Sproul, in his book What is Reformed Theology? “the Reformers *embraced* the doctrines articulated and formulated by the great ecumenical councils of church history, *including the doctrine of the Trinity and of Christ’s person* and work formulated at the councils of Nicea in 325 and Chalcedon in 451.” Ch. 1 pg.28-29

@@JudeOne3Four everyone is Catholic. 🧐 Just Not Roman.

@@P.H.888 I'm not a Catholic but a Biblical Christian. I do not believe in three gods rolled up into one. That comes from the occult. I can show you a christan in the Bible, show me Catholic in the Bible. The reason the seperation is made, is because, Catholics believe in Babylonian mysticism and Biblical Christians don't.

@@P.H.888 Do people know the word Catholic means "Universal" for Church? It is different from the "Roman Catholic Church" of cause. I'm not a Roman Catholic.

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Actually, it says " I am Jehovah your God, and there is no one else." The title LORD was substituted for the divine name to support the doctrine of the trinity and create confusion.

@@dennisjump8655 So you agree that Jehovah (the father of Jesus) is our God and none else?

@@henrybarrick7205 No obviously not creepo no one who believes is converted by your goofy creepy cult. You are a lying snake trying to use the bible to disprove the bible 'All the Father has given him will come to me and i will lose none of them'

@@iacoponefurio1915 My point was that Jehovah is the only person that is God (not a trinity of persons). I dont know what you are trying to say

@@iacoponefurio1915 Maybe you would like to explain how someone else is also our God!

BEAUTIFUL BIBLE TRUTH

David is referred to as a Firstborn Son. Was he the first of Jesse’s sons?

@@christopherallen6036 He won’t answer you lol

@@christopherallen6036 its the same creepo cult wacko with 80 milliom profiles just keep reporting his crazy delusional propaganda lol

@@juboy04 Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christ allow a council of men to come together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men.

@@S.R.M. oh you falsely claim Christ or the apostles never taught the trinity? Jesus claimed he was God and always spoke of the Father and the spirit were God as well . The apostles acknowledged Jesus as God , yet they made a distinction of the Father and Spirit being God as well .

The trinity is one person, in three different roles. God, the father. He became flesh as Christ, and became the Holy Spirit/ conforter.after death.

@Unbasied I’ll make it simple for you Jesus Christ = Flesh of God Holy Ghost = The spirit of God The Father = the Soul of God We are made in his image. We have a body which is the Flesh. Your soul which is thought you have the decisions you make the orders you give your body and how it moves. Your Spirit is your emotions where, moral standard. This makes man three in one. They are not the same but they are one. Your body isn’t your spirit. Your spirit isn’t your body. Your spirit isn’t your soul and your soul isn’t your spirit. Your soul isn’t your flesh your body and your body isn’t your soul. We are three in one. The only difference with the three is that we are born with dead spirits.

Actually all the above explanations do not define the Triune God. The Trinity is not one person occupying three different roles. Rather three distinct persons who share the same godhead. Not parts of God. God the Father did not become flesh. Rather God the Son became flesh although He existed before eternally with the Father.

@@joedyms Is what you just said in the bible?

1) The mysterious trinity god of three persons/3 in 1 of pagan origin with its 1+1+1=1 mathematical equation is absolutely unbiblical. 2) The TRUE DOCTRINE is MONOTHEISM/ONE GOD DOCTRINE (John 17:1-3). 3) Please read my COMMENT here for details.

john 3;13 jesus christ is the one omnipresent GOD, ISAIAH 9;6 SHOWS HIM AS THE SON AND THE ALMIGHTY GOD, AND THE EVERLASTING FATHER, YES ONE GOD...🤓

100.00 reward: present first the sinners prayer book chapter and verse, now do the same with the trinity. yes the trinity is absurdly catholic. yes, at the council of nicea. it cant be removed from history books. another angle, lets give the sinners prayer a chance first, jesus chose 12 apostles, the were to preach the gospel to all nations jesus told them and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, beginning at jerusalem luke 24;44, jesus was just risen from the dead, that marks the new testament beginning yet beginning at acts 2;38- the apostles began spreading the gospel. book chapter and verse, when did the apostles preach a set of words to repeat as in the sinners prayer to anyone? according to every trinitarian anything, this shows the apostles ignored jesus, picture this: jesus is screaming ! no peter! why arent you having those people repeat the sinners prayer??? and why did the apostles fail to ever explain something that would be of paramount importance like the trinity? sin is explained everywhere in the bible as is repentance and baptism in jesus name for the remission of sins? why does jesus say he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. but he that believeth not shall be damned? and not he that believeth and repeats the sinners prayer ???

Yep

According to the videos on youtube there's a video about jesus christ actually being the Sun not the Son

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A SON OF GOD? THE FIRST MENTIONING OF GOD HAVING ANY SUCH SON IS FIRST REVEALED TO US AT GENESIS 6:1,2 WHERE WE ARE TOLD: “Now when men started to grow in number on the surface of the ground and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of the true God began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful. So they began taking as wives all whom they chose.” THIS RATIONALLY TIES IN WITH SATAN’S WORDS: “…If you are a son of God, throw yourself down…” Matthew 4:6 THEREFORE, WE ARE TOLD THAT GOD HAS MANY SONS THE SCRIPTURES REFER TO THOSE SONS BY MANY DIFFERENT TITLES AND DESIGNATIONS SUCH AS ANGELS, CHERUBS, STARS ETC. ETC. WE KNOW THIS BECAUSE WE ARE MADE AWARE OF THE REACTION THAT TOOK PLACE IN HEAVEN WITH THESE CREATURES UPON WITNESSING A NEW CREATION BEING BROUGHT FORTH BY GOD AS FOLLOW: “When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause?” Job 38:7 THEREFORE, SINCE THE SPIRIT REALM WAS CREATED FRIST ALL INTELLIGENT CREATION IN HEAVEN ARE DESIGNATED AS SONS OF GOD HERE IS WHERE THIS OBVIOUSLY BECOMES VERY REVEALING: “Now the day came when the sons of the true God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and Satan also entered among them.” Job 1:6 EVEN GOD’S WAYWARD SON SATAN TOOK HIS USUAL PLACE WHEN GOD CALLED A FAMILY MEETING YEAH, THE VERY ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING BEING OFFSET IN A PERFECTLY GOOD CREATION WAS ONCE A BELOVED SON OF GOD AS WELL SO, THIS BEGGS THE QUESTION ABOUT JESUS AS TO HOW COULD HE BE A SON OF GOD IN THE SAME SENSE AS THE ANGELS WHEN HE WAS 100% HUMAN - RIGHT? THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS COMPLETELY GIVEN TO US IN A CONVERSATION THAT JESUS HAD WHILE ON EARTH WITH NICODEMUS WHEN HE TOLD HIM: “What has been born from the flesh is flesh, and what has been born from the spirit is spirit.” John 3:6 HE FURTHER WHEN ON TO TELL HIM: “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.” John 3:16 JESUS THUS SINGLES HIMSELF OUT AS THE ONLY ONE DIRECTLY CREATED BY GOD BY DECLARING HIMSELF AS THE “ONLY BEGOTTEN” HOW IS THAT TO BE UNDERSTOOD? BOTH THE APOSTLES JOHN AND PAUL CLARIFIES THE MEANING OF JESUS BEING THIS TOP-RANKING “ONLY BEGOTTEN” SON OF GOD AS FOLLOW JOHN TELLS US HOW HE WAS USED BY GOD IN HEAVEN BEFORE BEING SENT TO EARTH STATING: “This one was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence 14 So the Word became flesh (JOHN 3:6) and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of divine favor and truth.” John 1:2,3,14 AND THE APOSTLE PAUL CONFIRMS THIS WITNESS STATING: “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him.” Colossians 1:15,16 SO NOW WE SEE WHY MOST SO-CALLED CHRISTIANS HOLD AND THINK THAT JESUS IS GOD! WHAT THE SCRIPTURES ARE TEACHING US IS THAT UNLIKE THE SONS OF GOD THAT CAME TO EARTH MAKING THEMSELVES HALF HUMAN TO COHABITATE WITH WOMEN AND FATHER OFFSPRING ON EARTH AND TO LORD IT OVER THE HUMAN POPULATION - IN CONTRAST - THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON’S LIFE FORCE WAS TRANSFORMED INTO FLESH AND HE WAS BORN AGAIN INTO THE WORLD AS A FLESH AND BLOOD HUMAN: “Indeed, the sacred secret of this godly devotion is admittedly great: ‘He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit…” 1 Timothy 3:16 A KEY TO UNDERSTANDING ALL OF THIS IS THE FACT THAT: “... He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that he might become the one who is first in all things;” Colossians 1:18 BEING FIRST IN ALL THINGS IS THE KEY TO KNOWING HOW IT IS POSSIBLE FOR JESUS TO HAVE HAD A PRE-HUMAN EXISTENCE WITHOUT HAVING TO BE HALF ANGELIC AND HALF HUMAN AT THE SAME TIME SINCE HE IS THE FIRST ONE TO EVER BE BORN AGAIN!!! HERE IS THE PROPER VIEW THOSE THAT HAVE THE UPWARD HEAVENLY CALLING TO BE WITH JESUS IN HEAVEN WILL HAVE TO BECOME BORN AGAIN IN ORDER TO BECOME ANGELIC AS WE ARE TOLD: “But I tell you this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom…” 1 Corinthians 15:50 SO, IT STANDS THAT ALL OF THOSE HAVING THE HEAVENLY CALLING (OF WHICH I AM NOT ONE OF THEM) WILL HAVE HAD - FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE ANGELS THAT ARE ALREADY RESIDING IN THE HEAVENS LOOKING UPON - THOSE BEING BROUGHT FROM THE EARTH - TO THOSE ANGLES - THOSE WHO WERE ONCE HUMAN WILL HAVE HAD A PRE- ANGELIC EXISTENCE HOWEVER, ONCE THEY GO TO HEAVEN, THEY WILL NOT BE HALF ANGELIC AND HALF HUMAN BUT RATHER 100% ANGELIC EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE ONCE HUMAN (REVELATION 14:3) SIMPLE PUT THOSE BEING “BROUGHT FROM THE EARTH” TO LIVE IN HEAVEN WILL BECOME 100% SPIRIT BEINGS EVEN THOUGH THEY USE TO BE HUMANS AND LIKEWISE THAT IS WHAT TOOK PLACE IN MAKING GOD’S ONLY DIRECT CREATION- “ONLY BEGOTTEN SON” THAT WAS ONCE AN ANGLE - THE REVERSE OF THE SAME TRANSFORMATION PROCESS THAT WE LEARN FROM THE SCRIPTURES THAT TOOK PLACE WITH THE SPIRIT BEING THAT WAS SENT TO EARTH TO BECOME A 100% HUMAN BEING WHO WE CALL BY THE NAME OF JESUS “‘I, Jesus, sent my angel to bear witness to you about these things for the congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David and the bright morning star.’” Revelation 22:16 WE ARE TOLD IN THE BIBLE THAT UNLIKE THOSE ANGELS THAT FORSOOK THE HEAVENS TO ACT AS gODS ON THE EARTH IN IMITATION OF SATAN (JUDE 6 - SEE ALSO REVELATION 12:9) THAT JESUS EVEN AFTER BECOMING AWARE OF HIS PRE-HUMAN EXISTENCE UPON HIS BAPTISM THAT HE: “who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God. 7 No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human. 8 More than that, when he came as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, yes, death on a torture stake.” Philippians 2:6,7,8 I HAVE ONLY TOUCHED UPON ALL OF THIS AS THIS ALL IS SO MUCH DEEPER THAN WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED HERE IF YOU CAN GET THE SENSE OF THIS THAN, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY THAT OUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS OFFERING YOU TO LEARN THE TRUTH THAT WILL MAKE THE ULTIMATE DIFFERENCE IN YOUR LIFE AS RELATED TO US IN THESE WORDS: “This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.” John 17:3 THIS IS THE PRAYER I OFFER IN YOUR BEHALF IN JESUS NAME AMEN!

If the sun is an analogy of God, the rays of light are the Spirit of God, while the Moon is then the Son of Man who has been filled with the Spirit of God (Luke 4:18) Jesus is the Temple of God ( John 2:19-21 ) just as the Moon is Home to sunlight. We are in the same position as the Temples of God in the likeness of Christ as HIS Brothers ( Romans 8:29 and John 20:17 )

100.00 reward: present first the sinners prayer book chapter and verse, now do the same with the trinity. yes the trinity is absurdly catholic. yes, at the council of nicea. it cant be removed from history books. another angle, lets give the sinners prayer a chance first, jesus chose 12 apostles, the were to preach the gospel to all nations jesus told them and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, beginning at jerusalem luke 24;44, jesus was just risen from the dead, that marks the new testament beginning yet beginning at acts 2;38- the apostles began spreading the gospel. book chapter and verse, when did the apostles preach a set of words to repeat as in the sinners prayer to anyone? according to every trinitarian anything, this shows the apostles ignored jesus, picture this: jesus is screaming ! no peter! why arent you having those people repeat the sinners prayer??? and why did the apostles fail to ever explain something that would be of paramount importance like the trinity? sin is explained everywhere in the bible as is repentance and baptism in jesus name for the remission of sins? why does jesus say he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. but he that believeth not shall be damned? and not he that believeth and repeats the sinners prayer ???

Wackjob liar in a loony cult Yiu are spouting gibberish Get a job and yiur own utube channel you wont have to whine and complain about accurate teaching because yiu cant get any converts to your goofy cult in real life

100.00 reward: present first the sinners prayer book chapter and verse, now do the same with the trinity. yes the trinity is absurdly catholic. yes, at the council of nicea. it cant be removed from history books. another angle, lets give the sinners prayer a chance first, jesus chose 12 apostles, the were to preach the gospel to all nations jesus told them and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, beginning at jerusalem luke 24;44, jesus was just risen from the dead, that marks the new testament beginning yet beginning at acts 2;38- the apostles began spreading the gospel. book chapter and verse, when did the apostles preach a set of words to repeat as in the sinners prayer to anyone? according to every trinitarian anything, this shows the apostles ignored jesus, picture this: jesus is screaming ! no peter! why arent you having those people repeat the sinners prayer??? and why did the apostles fail to ever explain something that would be of paramount importance like the trinity? sin is explained everywhere in the bible as is repentance and baptism in jesus name for the remission of sins? why does jesus say he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. but he that believeth not shall be damned? and not he that believeth and repeats the sinners prayer ???

The Lord said, "Ask and it shall be given to you." So I asked, and I searched, and I found. Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christ allow a council of men to come together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men.

Newsflash it’s not going to if you’re a human, but when we meet him in the air we will see him as he is

You not understanding the mystery of the trinity is no mystery 😉1 Corinthians 2:14 . See the problem?

@@marionoliver6004 And you have it all figured out with all comprehension how the three relate/interrelate with each other?

@@davidward5225 I did not say that. Our human natures knows only human things. The Natural. Of the senses. The Holy Spirit will teach the things of god, yea the deep things of god. 1 Corinthians 2:10. You obviously have a desire to know Jesus, that I am almost certain of. If you have this desire then the Holy Spirit is more that willing to teach

@@davidward5225 keep seeking and knocking David. You will find that he has been there all along teaching and guiding into all truth of jesus

THATS RIGHT BUT WHEN WE POST WE NEED TO ALSO POST ONENESS SCRIPTURE, KEEP POSTNG THE TRUTH

He is saying "we don't call Jesus the Spirit just as we don't call the Spirit Jesus." Understand?

Distinguishing the subdistinctions.

Jesus christ is God over All, angels and spirits, Jesus Christ is the living water of life, the tree of life and the bread of life that came down from heaven, and he that feeds on this bread will live for ever, the living water is spirit and live, the flesh counts for nothing, the words Jesus christ have spoken to us are spirit and they are life.

@@marcusvanrensberg6060 He is NOT over His Father tho.

@@pangorbalm8086 Jesus christ is the wisdom/the tree of life, bread of life, the living water of life and is in all things created by him for him. John 8"58 I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I am.

100.00 reward: present first the sinners prayer book chapter and verse, now do the same with the trinity. yes the trinity is absurdly catholic. yes, at the council of nicea. it cant be removed from history books. another angle, lets give the sinners prayer a chance first, jesus chose 12 apostles, the were to preach the gospel to all nations jesus told them and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, beginning at jerusalem luke 24;44, jesus was just risen from the dead, that marks the new testament beginning yet beginning at acts 2;38- the apostles began spreading the gospel. book chapter and verse, when did the apostles preach a set of words to repeat as in the sinners prayer to anyone? according to every trinitarian anything, this shows the apostles ignored jesus, picture this: jesus is screaming ! no peter! why arent you having those people repeat the sinners prayer??? and why did the apostles fail to ever explain something that would be of paramount importance like the trinity? sin is explained everywhere in the bible as is repentance and baptism in jesus name for the remission of sins? why does jesus say he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. but he that believeth not shall be damned? and not he that believeth and repeats the sinners prayer ???

@tomfuschetti202 Two simple verses that irrefutably show there is no 3 person God. "yet for us there is but one God, the Father," 1 Cor 8:6 When praying to the Father Jesus said: "This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." John 17:3

THE APOSTLES HEARD WHAT JESUS SAID CLEARLY IN MATHEW 28;19 FIRST, IT SAYS BATIZING THEM IN THE NAME (SINGULAR) FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST ARE TITLES OF THE ONE GOD, THATS WHY THE APOSTLES NEVER BAPTIZED IN ANY OTHER WAY EXCEP THE ONE PROPER NAME OF THE ONE GOD, JESUS CHRIST.

You have some very serious presuppositions in your statements. JKVOnly allows for false names, like Jehovah, and a misnomer for where it says Easter, it was used to replace the word Passover. God did not allow this, but man did. JKV is a version of an original by the interpretation of men. Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christ allow a council of men to come together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men.

@@S.R.M. 1) The trinity/mysterious trinity god of three persons of pagan origin is a contaminating doctrine that has contaminated all the doctrines of the professing Christians and Christian churches in the world. So the trinity is not the only false doctrine adhered to and believed in by Christians.. 2) The LORD JESUS CHRIST/SON OF GOD revealed the existence of false Christs/many (Matt. 24:24) and so the existence of false Christianity with the false Christs as their Christs and false gods as their gods and the most supreme of them is the idiot god of this world that blinded the world (2Cor. 4:4) and also referred to as the "prince of the power in the air (Eph. 2:1-3)" -- he and his hosts of evil spirits in the air are doing wonders in the air that further deceived the gullible people in the world. 3) To know and recognize the false gods and false Christs, the ONLY TRUE GOD and the TRUE JESUS CHRIST must be RECOGNISED FIRST: The ONLY TRUE GOD/FATHER (John 17:1-3)/HOLY GHOST (Matt. 1:18)/SPIRIT (John 4:24) AND the TRUE JESUS CHRIST/SON OF GOD (Matt. 1:18, Mark 1:1, John 10:36, 17:1-3)/MAN (John 8:40)/FLESH AND BONES (Luke 24:39) ARE TWO EXISTING BEINGS of DIFFERENT NATURES of EXISTENCE. LOGIC 1: The FATHER is the ONLY TRUE GOD; therefore, the SON/JESUS CHRIST IS NOT GOD; otherwise, he's a false god/god the son, god the Word, mighty god, creator god, father god, man god/false gods/Christs (Matt. 24:24). LOGIC 2: PREMISES: GOD is a SPIRIT (John 4:24); A spirit has no flesh and bones (Luke 24:39); JESUS CHRIST has flesh and bones (Luke 24:39). CONCLUSION: Therefore, JESUS CHRIST IS NOT GOD. 4) Any false recognition to the ONLY TRUE GOD/FATHER is a false god (2Cor. 4:4) and any false recognition to the TRUE JESUS CHRIST/SON OF GOD is a false Christ (Matt. 24:24): A) Roman Catholic Church and various protestant churches -- trinity/mysterious trinity god of three persons (1+1+1=1 god). B) Jehovah's Witness: Father -- Almighty God Son/Jesus Christ -- mighty god/false Christ (1+1=2 God/god. C) Unitarian and oneness -- the Father is the Son; the son is the Father (1+1=1 god). D) MORMON -- the Father is God; the Son is God -- the Godhead (1+1=1 godhead). E) INC/Iglesia Ni Cristo: God/Father -- Spirit Holy Spirit - power of God Jesus Christ -- Word/man; hence, god the Word. F) Etc. 5) Based on my research, no Christian church adhered to the TRUE DOCTRINE: MONOTHEISM/ONE GOD DOCTRINE (Ex. 20:3, John 17:1-3) -- the FULFILMENT of the PROPHECY in AMOS 8:11: "Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor thirst for water, but of hearing of the words of the LORD." CAUSE OF FAMINE: "John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you, 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore, the world hateth you. 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. 15;21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me. 16:1 THESE things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended. 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues; yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. 16:3 And all these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me." The annihilation of the BEARERS OF LIGHT happened during the reign of the RoMAN emperor Constantine of the RoMAN empire in conivance with the RoMAN Catholic Church/RCC. 5) There has been a FAMINE of HEARING of the WORDS of the LORD in the land/world for over a thousand years from the ancient/dark ages to the the present and it'd remain in the world until the END -- END OF THE WORLD IN HELL FIRE (Matt. 13:38-40).

The SAVED/ELECT (Matt. 24:22) -- MUST ABIDE TO THIS COMMAND: "Rev. 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." "her:" Rev. 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH, 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: ...."

@@S.R.M. JEHOVAH JEALOUS - is the IDENTICAL NAME of the ONLY TRUE GOD/FATHER (Ex. 6:3, 34:14, Ps. 83:18, Isa. 12:2, 26:4). JESUS CHRIST -- is the IDENTICAL NAME OF THE SON OF GOD (Luke 1:30-31, 2:11). What is RELEVANT in the above NAMES is the TRUTH related to the said NAMES which are WRITTEN in the HOLY BIBLE/KJV ONLY.

blessings, i have gone the same route you have. God is indeed one (not three) and i stand by my comments on this list, about same as you, three months ago. Jesus is not God, but as the begotten son of God, has been sent as the passover lamb and then raised to right hand of the one God, his God too. He is seated on Gods throne of authority and given power to rule, just like Joseph was under Pharaoh in egypt. A foreshadow of what God was going to do.... and the great sorrow is that 99% of christian believers cant see it so dont really "know their lord" when did you see through the smokescreen of traditional religion? it took me over 30 years with 20 of them knowing something didnt add up but not knowing where to start figuring it out. 1Cor12:1 started me off, a word (gifts) added by translators and in brackets in old KJV and italics in greek interlinear, because it doesnt exist in the original. changes meaning of 1cor12. they are manifestations of the one which is a gift, holy spirit within, every believer! i went searching for other meddling, and found heaps. Heb1:2 is strikingly obvious and a favourite trinity proof by the misinformed trinity believers. Its such a travesty, and is painful to see the gushing praise for guys like Sproul who perpetrate the lie.

this channel may be accepting trinitarian comments but blocking unitarians.

@NeedGod dot com someone doesnt like my carefully explained answers to your points. Can you explain your understanding of 1Tim2:5 "there is one God, and one mediator BETWEEN God and man, the MAN Jesus anointed." ?? any explanation as to how Jesus right now is still a man?

Being worshipped as the King and Messiah doesn't mean you're Yahweh Elohim. If you look into the Hebrew for "worship" you see that even Moses worshiped jus father in law, it was not a sign that you thought the person was always Yahweh

@NeedGod dot com thanks for the answer and the info that you too are getting non sticking comments. I spent two hours last night around this time, answered each point carefully and this morning blank. All those points you made my friend are normal trinity fare, i was one for over 30 years making those same claims in home groups and bible studies and to the non saved. In 2017 God woke me up over a simple added word in 1cor12. It made me wonder what else had been added or adulerated by the averaged belief of the translators, so i prayed for wisdom and Gods truth on what i was reading. Over about 6 weeks half a doz of my familiar proif verses, some you mention here, fell off. They have different contextual meaning in their chapter settings, than the proofs of incarnation and deity to make Jesus God. Jesus did not come down to be a man, he was born a man by Gods direct creative act within Mary, a second Adam as Paul says, a seed of the woman (Gen3:15) and the lamb of God, who through his obedience (unlike the other perfect man who through self centred will grasped at the temptation, equality with God) (see phil2:6) So how do you from a trinity point of view describe the meaning of 1Tim2:5? At this question others stop commenting.

What god do you worship, or have defined? Are you Oneness? Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christ allow a council of men to come together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men.

@@S.R.M. Amen. Heh, one little formatting tip (someone said the same to me a while back). If you want/need to give a long answer on a format like this, it is best to make paragraph breaks by holding down "shift" and then "enter". The paragraph breaks make your answer easier to read. No, I'm not Oneness. I believe like Jesus and Paul that the one true God is the Father, and that Jesus is the Christ, the human Son of God. Blessings.

@@billschlegel1 Thank you for your kind suggestions. Most Christians believe the doctrine of the Trinity to be biblical, and they cite Matthew 28:18-20 or 1 John 5:7. But is the following the original quote of Christ? “And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, ‘All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” These verses are the modern-day rendition identifying an interpolation, so the question must be asked, “Did Christ speak every word found in these verses?” The first Church Historian Eusebius (quotes Matthew 28:19 as it appeared in the early 4th century, Christ said, “Go and make disciples of all nations in My name” (Matthew 28:19, as it was originally quoted, Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, Penguin Classics, 1965). Note, He never said, “...baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.” Which commandment did the disciples hear? It appears the latter quoted by Eusebius from an original manuscript of the NT, for there is no instance of the disciples ever baptizing anyone “In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost,” according to the New Testament! On baptisms specifically were done in the name of {YAHSHUA}, Martin Luther notes, “The apostles certainly used this formula in baptizing in the name of Christ only, as we read in the Acts of the Apostles,’ citing Acts 2:38; 10:48; and 19:5” (Erik H. Herrmann, Paul W. Robinson, The Annotated Luther, Volume 3: Church and Sacraments. Fortress Press. p. 66, 2016). In a documented sermon, Martin Luther made this astonishing statement, “It is indeed true that the name ‘Trinity’ is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man” (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, 1988, p. 406). The disciples of Christ in the first two or more centuries did not know of any doctrine of the Trinity. Historically, “There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the trinity-at any rate from him” (H. G. Wells, The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499, 1920). Therefore, without a doubt, The so-called Great Commission, as written is an interpolation: "Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and the Holy Spirit" (Matthew 28:19, the words “...in the name of the Father and of the Son, and the Holy Ghost” were added centuries later). The disciples were to make disciples in His name, and they were baptized in the name of Christ only as the NT gives evidence. The formula is mentioned in the Didache (7:1-3), and it is mostly accepted as authentic due to its supporting manuscript evidence (Everett Ferguson, Baptism in the Early Church, 2013, pp. 134-5). Nevertheless, some scholars have held the view that the passage in the Didache is an interpolation as it is absent from the first few centuries of early Christian quotations, in which case it is believed it would be part of an apostolic or early Christian oral tradition from which both the received texts of Matthew and the Didache emerged, however, the conclusion is the church only baptized in the name of Christ. The view of the passage as an interpolation was in recent times maintained, and this particular line of opposing arguments by Trinitarians is pure eisegesis, meaning the process of interpreting a text in such a way as to introduce one's presuppositions, agendas, or biases, that artificially supports the Trinitarian formula, and based on interpolated verses added to the New Testament. Catholics and Protestants would agree with Protestant Theologian James White, who writes, “We hang a person’s very salvation upon the acceptance of the doctrine…We must know, understand, and love the Trinity to be fully completely Christian” (The Forgotten Trinity, pp. 14-15). And yet most other scholars know that the Trinity is beyond human understanding, “The mind of man cannot fully understand the mystery of the Trinity. He who has tried to understand the mystery fully will lose his mind, but he who would deny the Trinity will lose his soul” (Harold Lindsell and Charles Woodbridge, A Christian Handbook, pp. 51-52, 1953). Nowhere in the New Testament is believing in the Trinity a prerequisite for one’s salvation. Nowhere in the Bible did the LORD ever reveal Himself as a Trinity, or Triune God. Interpolations exist in the New Testament, which are words added later to prove the Trinity. Matthew 28:19 and 1 John 5:7 are proven interpolations, and therefore not of the original Scriptures. 1 John 5:7 is known as “The Johannine comma,” due to a sequence of extra words in 1 John 5:7-8 which appear in later versions of the Bible, but not in earlier Scriptures. Compare these words below in italics in the KJV and the same verse from the newer ESV. "For there are three that bear record (witness) in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one" (1 John 5:7-8 KJV). "For there are three that testify: the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree" (1 John 5:7-8, ESV). These extra words are generally absent from the early Greek manuscripts. They only appear in the text in late medieval manuscripts, which were done by Trinitarians to bolster the man-made doctrine of the Trinity. The Trinitarian doctrine only existed since the 4th century! A religion unexamined is not worth having. Besides, most Christians when questioned about the Trinity prove to be Modalists, not Trinitarians (The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). Christians have given examples of the Trinity, and one is the steam, water, and ice, which is not a good example for it only proves modalism. The Trinity is not so much a mystery as it is the doctrine of confusion, and we know that God is not the author of confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33).

Beg to differ, no it doesn't.

Jesus was extremely clear that anyone but the Father is not God. John 17:1-3

Good evening brother John 17:1-3 doesn't say Jesus isn't God. That's not Bible. If you take your time and read the whole book if John you will understand Jesus being God in the flesh. 100% Man and 100% God..

@@dennisjump8655 you are in a crazy cult.

@@saladinsmith9209 amd you like your own comments that what is so funny

No sir!

@@list3723 Why a separate " Person" for God the Father and another for the Holy Spirit ? It will result in absurdity of God the Father having no Holy Spirit contradicting the Holy Bible : " Do not cast me from Your Presence or take YOUR Holy Spirit from me. " - Psalm 51:11 NIV

@Melchor Accibal I don't get it when people say it's separate.

"John 4:24 God is a Spirit, ..." 1) Specifically speaking the SPIRIT of the ONLY TRUE GOD is HOLY. 2) The word "HOLY" is an adjective or modifier that describes the kind of SPIRIT the ONLY TRUE GOD/FATHER has. 3) Therefore, the ONLY TRUE GOD/FATHER is a HOLY SPIRIT or HOLY GHOST (Matt 1:18, John 4:24) -- the FATHER and GOD of the LORD JESUS CHRIST/SON/MAN (John 20:17, 1 Peter 1:3).

@@list3723 The HOLY GHOST/SPIRIT (Matt. 1:18, John 4:24) is the LIFE/COMPOSITION/NATURE of EXISTENCE of the ONLY TRUE GOD/FATHER (John 17:1-3) -- the GOD and FATHER of the LORD JESUS CHRIST/SON/MAN (John 20:17, 1 Peter 1:3).

Creepshow cult member no 1 cares about you except the 1 you already rejected your only savior and u r lost

summed up in john 3;13 you are correct keep posting

Wow, I never heard that before, "...the Trinity is the foundation of sand." Isn't sand a kind of dirt. What can we make of the Trinity? Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christ allow a council of men to come together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men.

100.00 reward: present first the sinners prayer book chapter and verse, now do the same with the trinity. yes the trinity is absurdly catholic. yes, at the council of nicea. it cant be removed from history books. another angle, lets give the sinners prayer a chance first, jesus chose 12 apostles, the were to preach the gospel to all nations jesus told them and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, beginning at jerusalem luke 24;44, jesus was just risen from the dead, that marks the new testament beginning yet beginning at acts 2;38- the apostles began spreading the gospel. book chapter and verse, when did the apostles preach a set of words to repeat as in the sinners prayer to anyone? according to every trinitarian anything, this shows the apostles ignored jesus, picture this: jesus is screaming ! no peter! why arent you having those people repeat the sinners prayer??? and why did the apostles fail to ever explain something that would be of paramount importance like the trinity? sin is explained everywhere in the bible as is repentance and baptism in jesus name for the remission of sins? why does jesus say he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. but he that believeth not shall be damned? and not he that believeth and repeats the sinners prayer ???

Read your statement, and yet that does not prove the Trinity. Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christ allow a council of men to come together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men.

@@S.R.M. I agree with you, there is but one God and savior and His name is Jesus Christ, revealed to the world by the angel of God, Gabriel and His word in the scriptures.

@@marcusvanrensberg6060 I appreciate that, but did you read what I wrote? Most Christians believe the doctrine of the Trinity to be biblical, and they cite Matthew 28:18-20 or 1 John 5:7. But is the following the original quote of Christ? “And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, ‘All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” These verses are the modern-day rendition identifying an interpolation, so the question must be asked, “Did Christ speak every word found in these verses?” The first Church Historian Eusebius (quotes Matthew 28:19 as it appeared in the early 4th century, Christ said, “Go and make disciples of all nations in My name” (Matthew 28:19, as it was originally quoted, Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, Penguin Classics, 1965). Note, He never said, “...baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.” Which commandment did the disciples hear? It appears the latter quoted by Eusebius from an original manuscript of the NT, for there is no instance of the disciples ever baptizing anyone “In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost,” according to the New Testament! On baptisms specifically were done in the name of {YAHSHUA}, Martin Luther notes, “The apostles certainly used this formula in baptizing in the name of Christ only, as we read in the Acts of the Apostles,’ citing Acts 2:38; 10:48; and 19:5” (Erik H. Herrmann, Paul W. Robinson, The Annotated Luther, Volume 3: Church and Sacraments. Fortress Press. p. 66, 2016). In a documented sermon, Martin Luther made this astonishing statement, “It is indeed true that the name ‘Trinity’ is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man” (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, 1988, p. 406). The disciples of Christ in the first two or more centuries did not know of any doctrine of the Trinity. Historically, “There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the trinity-at any rate from him” (H. G. Wells, The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499, 1920). Therefore, without a doubt, The so-called Great Commission, as written is an interpolation: "Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and the Holy Spirit" (Matthew 28:19, the words “...in the name of the Father and of the Son, and the Holy Ghost” were added centuries later). The disciples were to make disciples in His name, and they were baptized in the name of Christ only as the NT gives evidence. The formula is mentioned in the Didache (7:1-3), and it is mostly accepted as authentic due to its supporting manuscript evidence (Everett Ferguson, Baptism in the Early Church, 2013, pp. 134-5). Nevertheless, some scholars have held the view that the passage in the Didache is an interpolation as it is absent from the first few centuries of early Christian quotations, in which case it is believed it would be part of an apostolic or early Christian oral tradition from which both the received texts of Matthew and the Didache emerged, however, the conclusion is the church only baptized in the name of Christ. The view of the passage as an interpolation was in recent times maintained, and this particular line of opposing arguments by Trinitarians is pure eisegesis, meaning the process of interpreting a text in such a way as to introduce one's presuppositions, agendas, or biases, that artificially supports the Trinitarian formula, and based on interpolated verses added to the New Testament. Catholics and Protestants would agree with Protestant Theologian James White, who writes, “We hang a person’s very salvation upon the acceptance of the doctrine…We must know, understand, and love the Trinity to be fully completely Christian” (The Forgotten Trinity, pp. 14-15). And yet most other scholars know that the Trinity is beyond human understanding, “The mind of man cannot fully understand the mystery of the Trinity. He who has tried to understand the mystery fully will lose his mind, but he who would deny the Trinity will lose his soul” (Harold Lindsell and Charles Woodbridge, A Christian Handbook, pp. 51-52, 1953). Nowhere in the New Testament is believing in the Trinity a prerequisite for one’s salvation. Nowhere in the Bible did the LORD ever reveal Himself as a Trinity, or Triune God. Interpolations exist in the New Testament, which are words added later to prove the Trinity. Matthew 28:19 and 1 John 5:7 are proven interpolations, and therefore not of the original Scriptures. 1 John 5:7 is known as “The Johannine comma,” due to a sequence of extra words in 1 John 5:7-8 which appear in later versions of the Bible, but not in earlier Scriptures. Compare these words below in italics in the KJV and the same verse from the newer ESV. "For there are three that bear record (witness) in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one" (1 John 5:7-8 KJV). "For there are three that testify: the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree" (1 John 5:7-8, ESV). These extra words are generally absent from the early Greek manuscripts. They only appear in the text in late medieval manuscripts, which were done by Trinitarians to bolster the man-made doctrine of the Trinity. The Trinitarian doctrine only existed since the 4th century! A religion unexamined is not worth having. Besides, most Christians when questioned about the Trinity prove to be Modalists, not Trinitarians (The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). Christians have given examples of the Trinity, and one is the steam, water, and ice, which is not a good example for it only proves modalism. The Trinity is not so much a mystery as it is the doctrine of confusion, and we know that God is not the author of confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33).

@johnkrause8247 The "philosophical juggling" is necessary in order to explain a doctrine that is not found anywhere in scripture. The thing is that trinitarians and non trinitarian both believe there is one God. The trinitarian God is a 3 person God whereas the Bible only teaches a one person God. What "philosophical juggling" (love that) is needed to understand that every single time the term "one God" is used in scripture it is always the Father. Or what Paul wrote at 1 Cor 8:6 "yet for us there is but one God, the Father, " Simple clear statement.

@TheCaledonianBoy 4 months later, I have studied myself out of NT. At its core, it is in complete violation of the Hebrew scriptures.

@@johnkrause8247 Could you explain that a bit more please.

@TheCaledonianBoy We could just examine inconsistencies and contradictions within the NT. That's where my issues began. But when I look at core teachings in Tenach, they do not agree with NT theology. So, the contradictions between those two I find to be far more damning for NT. Please choose a topic, and I will elaborate. 1. Original Sin 2. Satan / free will 3. Atonement of sin There is plenty more, but in my opinion, if Christianity is wrong in these core areas, the rest is meaningless.

@@johnkrause8247 I would be interested in No. 1 Original sin. Thanks

100.00 reward: present first the sinners prayer book chapter and verse, now do the same with the trinity. yes the trinity is absurdly catholic. yes, at the council of nicea. it cant be removed from history books. another angle, lets give the sinners prayer a chance first, jesus chose 12 apostles, the were to preach the gospel to all nations jesus told them and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, beginning at jerusalem luke 24;44, jesus was just risen from the dead, that marks the new testament beginning yet beginning at acts 2;38- the apostles began spreading the gospel. book chapter and verse, when did the apostles preach a set of words to repeat as in the sinners prayer to anyone? according to every trinitarian anything, this shows the apostles ignored jesus, picture this: jesus is screaming ! no peter! why arent you having those people repeat the sinners prayer??? and why did the apostles fail to ever explain something that would be of paramount importance like the trinity? sin is explained everywhere in the bible as is repentance and baptism in jesus name for the remission of sins? why does jesus say he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. but he that believeth not shall be damned? and not he that believeth and repeats the sinners prayer ???

100.00 reward: present first the sinners prayer book chapter and verse, now do the same with the trinity. yes the trinity is absurdly catholic. yes, at the council of nicea. it cant be removed from history books. another angle, lets give the sinners prayer a chance first, jesus chose 12 apostles, the were to preach the gospel to all nations jesus told them and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, beginning at jerusalem luke 24;44, jesus was just risen from the dead, that marks the new testament beginning yet beginning at acts 2;38- the apostles began spreading the gospel. book chapter and verse, when did the apostles preach a set of words to repeat as in the sinners prayer to anyone? according to every trinitarian anything, this shows the apostles ignored jesus, picture this: jesus is screaming ! no peter! why arent you having those people repeat the sinners prayer??? and why did the apostles fail to ever explain something that would be of paramount importance like the trinity? sin is explained everywhere in the bible as is repentance and baptism in jesus name for the remission of sins? why does jesus say he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. but he that believeth not shall be damned? and not he that believeth and repeats the sinners prayer ???

He is in love with this theology of the trinity. What determines our beliefs is not so much rationality, logic or experience, but our affection. That is why people who don't love God cannot believe in Him even if presented with all facts, logic, arguments. Sproul is affectionate towards Orthodoxy. Hence, he cannot but believe it.

@@cue_khb thats pretty much it, you hit the nail on the head. my previous christian family (when i was srd evangelical) now give me weird smiles and avoid talking about God, like ostriches with heads in sand. lovers of religious orthodoxy who wont search out the logic of scripture. I was one for over 30 years, now im called a heretic and false reacher. So be it, its their free will. blessings.

only by other fakes like him

100.00 reward: present first the sinners prayer book chapter and verse, now do the same with the trinity. yes the trinity is absurdly catholic. yes, at the council of nicea. it cant be removed from history books. another angle, lets give the sinners prayer a chance first, jesus chose 12 apostles, the were to preach the gospel to all nations jesus told them and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, beginning at jerusalem luke 24;44, jesus was just risen from the dead, that marks the new testament beginning yet beginning at acts 2;38- the apostles began spreading the gospel. book chapter and verse, when did the apostles preach a set of words to repeat as in the sinners prayer to anyone? according to every trinitarian anything, this shows the apostles ignored jesus, picture this: jesus is screaming ! no peter! why arent you having those people repeat the sinners prayer??? and why did the apostles fail to ever explain something that would be of paramount importance like the trinity? sin is explained everywhere in the bible as is repentance and baptism in jesus name for the remission of sins? why does jesus say he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. but he that believeth not shall be damned? and not he that believeth and repeats the sinners prayer ???

@@AlfredGallegos-no4pb good one. its what i call "churchianity" and its rife here on this channel.

Very helpful. Thanks

Do you have a channel on utube? How can I get in touch with you? I used to be in worldwide church of god. They taught God and Jesus ate eternal and holy spirit was power of God. Seems you do too. Thanks so much for this comment.

100.00 reward: present first the sinners prayer book chapter and verse, now do the same with the trinity. yes the trinity is absurdly catholic. yes, at the council of nicea. it cant be removed from history books. another angle, lets give the sinners prayer a chance first, jesus chose 12 apostles, the were to preach the gospel to all nations jesus told them and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, beginning at jerusalem luke 24;44, jesus was just risen from the dead, that marks the new testament beginning yet beginning at acts 2;38- the apostles began spreading the gospel. book chapter and verse, when did the apostles preach a set of words to repeat as in the sinners prayer to anyone? according to every trinitarian anything, this shows the apostles ignored jesus, picture this: jesus is screaming ! no peter! why arent you having those people repeat the sinners prayer??? and why did the apostles fail to ever explain something that would be of paramount importance like the trinity? sin is explained everywhere in the bible as is repentance and baptism in jesus name for the remission of sins? why does jesus say he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. but he that believeth not shall be damned? and not he that believeth and repeats the sinners prayer ???

THE APOSTLES HEARD WHAT JESUS SAID CLEARLY IN MATHEW 28;19 FIRST, IT SAYS BATIZING THEM IN THE NAME (SINGULAR) FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST ARE TITLES OF THE ONE GOD, THATS WHY THE APOSTLES NEVER BAPTIZED IN ANY OTHER WAY EXCEP THE ONE PROPER NAME OF THE ONE GOD, JESUS CHRIST.

100.00 reward: present first the sinners prayer book chapter and verse, now do the same with the trinity. yes the trinity is absurdly catholic. yes, at the council of nicea. it cant be removed from history books. another angle, lets give the sinners prayer a chance first, jesus chose 12 apostles, the were to preach the gospel to all nations jesus told them and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, beginning at jerusalem luke 24;44, jesus was just risen from the dead, that marks the new testament beginning yet beginning at acts 2;38- the apostles began spreading the gospel. book chapter and verse, when did the apostles preach a set of words to repeat as in the sinners prayer to anyone? according to every trinitarian anything, this shows the apostles ignored jesus, picture this: jesus is screaming ! no peter! why arent you having those people repeat the sinners prayer??? and why did the apostles fail to ever explain something that would be of paramount importance like the trinity? sin is explained everywhere in the bible as is repentance and baptism in jesus name for the remission of sins? why does jesus say he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. but he that believeth not shall be damned? and not he that believeth and repeats the sinners prayer ???

@AlfredGallegos-no4pb 1. The sinners prayer is a guideline... the words don't save you... your faith does. Let's sum it up....I admit I am a sinner....I confess faith in Christ....I repent of my rebellion and surrender myself to Christ as Lord and Savior.... That is the sinners' prayer in a brief synopsis. Yes, the sinners prayer is scriptural... I said it when I came to Christ.....God sees the heart, not you.

@AlfredGallegos-no4pb 2. The Trinity Speaking of Jesus, the writer under the power of the Holy Spirit states: "You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of your hands" Hebrews 1:10 "In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) and the Word (Jesus) was with God and the Word (Jesus) WAS God." John 1:1 God speaking through the prophet states: " and I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy so that WHEN THEY LOOK ON ME, ON HIM WHOM THEY HAVE PIERCED, they shall mourn for Him" Zechariah 12:10 Jesus was pierced in the head Side Hands Feet

@AlfredGallegos-no4pb 3.Salvation Salvation is given by Grace through Faith One is saved at true belief...immediately. "For this is the will of my Father, that EVERYONE WHO LOOKS ON THE SON AND BELIEVES IN HIM SHOULD HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, AND I WILL RAISE HIM UP ON THE LAST DAY." John 6:40 "Truly truly I say to you WHOEVER BELIEVES HAS ETERNAL LIFE". JOHN 6:47 "For all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God, AND ARE JUSTIFIED BY HIS GRACE AS A GIFT, THROUGH THE REDEMPTION THAT IS IN CHRIST JESUS" ROMANS 3:22-24

I do not want to argue with you. I too have the question, "Why do they not believe in the Trinity?" There are Christians who do not believe in the Trinity. They should ask themselves: Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christ allow a council of men to come together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men.

@@S.R.M. Thank you for your valuable comment 🙂 I have nothing more to say, you have already said everything. I just want to invite you to read the Qur'an, and start by Jesus, Mary and God in the Qur'an. I believe you would enjoy it and may benefit a lot. God bless 🙂

@@MShreefUK I will be in the UK this December. I have read the Qur'an. I have a degree in Philosophy and Religion from University. May the peace of God be upon you.

I wonder why he is regarded in such high esteem, rediculous.

That's all I got from it as well. Instead of a bible study all we got was a philosophy and language class.

100.00 reward: present first the sinners prayer book chapter and verse, now do the same with the trinity. yes the trinity is absurdly catholic. yes, at the council of nicea. it cant be removed from history books. another angle, lets give the sinners prayer a chance first, jesus chose 12 apostles, the were to preach the gospel to all nations jesus told them and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, beginning at jerusalem luke 24;44, jesus was just risen from the dead, that marks the new testament beginning yet beginning at acts 2;38- the apostles began spreading the gospel. book chapter and verse, when did the apostles preach a set of words to repeat as in the sinners prayer to anyone? according to every trinitarian anything, this shows the apostles ignored jesus, picture this: jesus is screaming ! no peter! why arent you having those people repeat the sinners prayer??? and why did the apostles fail to ever explain something that would be of paramount importance like the trinity? sin is explained everywhere in the bible as is repentance and baptism in jesus name for the remission of sins? why does jesus say he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. but he that believeth not shall be damned? and not he that believeth and repeats the sinners prayer ???

Who is the Alpha and the Omega in Rev1:8? Who is the Alpha and the Omega in Rev21:5-8? And again who claims this title in Rev22:8-16?

@@Solomonsaysno The Aleph and Tav in The Hebrew and all over The Scriptures! Gen 1v1 in The beginning Elohim Aleph Tav created The Heavens and The earth

You are assuming that God is Unitarian and reading your doctrine into the Text. Unitarians/Oneness folks always refer to the number of times something is said, that proves nothing. But if Jesus calls Himself “I Am” states He has seen the Father, came from heaven, had glory with the Father before the world was, accepts worship, bleeds and is flesh and bone and not a spirit as He states the Father is, doesn’t rebuke Thomas for calling Him “God”, is loved by the Father, sent by the Father and goes back to the Father. Micah 5:2 and Zechariah 12:10 note Yahweh is the speaker there. Isa61:1. If Jesus was resurrected bodily, ascended bodily and is seen by the Holy Spirit filled Stephen standing at the right hand of God and will return the same way He ascended then what happens to the Holy Spirit who has sealed Believers? Will He break His seal and promise and turn back into bodily form? No Christ is currently in heaven seated at the right hand of the Father, bodily(Col2:9). See Rev chp5; Malachi3:1, Gen19:24, Judges chp13...Col2:9 katoikei..Strong’s #2730=dwells, lives, inhabits permanently thus Jesus the second person of the Trinity assumed humanity, and is forever the God-man

Thank you, Christians need to start studying instead of having everything spoon fed to them. I've been studying on the trinity for a while now and can I just say that there is a genuine need for thorough comprehensive study of the fundamental Bible truths we hold. People rely so much on the Pope, pastors, prophets and others to teach them the Bible, that they are prone to putting the pastor's word above the Lord's. We need to study the Bible ourselves through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. We have to allow God to speak for Himself. This is what God has opened my eyes to, now I see why sometimes Athiests and Agnostics and people of other faith think Christians are brainwashed, because we rather rely on pastors and church leaders to teach us about God other than having a relationship with God, studying His word, and questioning the doctrines that we are taught. The Lord laid it on my heart to tell you this. To tell anyone that would listen this. The doctrine of the trinity is false. I've studied the history of the trinity, tracing from Athanasius to Constantine and thanks to the Holy Spirit, I've left that belief. I believe in Jesus Christ, He is the Father incarnated. The Father, Son, and HS are not sperate "persons" but one person who has revealed Himself in more ways than one. It's important to know, especially when telling others about our faith, the truth about out beliefs. The Trinity has always been a hot topic in the church for centuries after Jesus ascended. It's nothing new. This is a brief summary of the history concerning this doctrine. But centuries ago, in the late 200s and early 300s, the leaders of the Christians church were trying to figure out what the NT books meant when they talked about the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Because we have to note that the NT books were compiled around the 3 or 4 century. And this caused confusion The church leaders had no idea the relationship between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. So out of confusion they began coming up with theories, marking out their positions, kicking each other out of the church, and breaking up (this is one of the things that caused the East and West schism which was the break of communion between the Catholic church and other churches) and they told everyone who didn't believe in their doctrine that they would go to hell. The topic of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit was one of, if not the biggest topic among Christian leaders in the year 325. The Roman Emperor Constantine who is sometimes seen as "the first Christian" emperor when in reality the guy was a pagan and saw religion as a way to expand and unite his empire. So Constantine along with some of the church bishops held a council in the town called Nicaea, and these bishops came up with the first version of the statement of faith that attempted to define the relationship between the Son and the Father. The statement they drafted is called the Nicene Creed which is what the vast majority of Christians and Christian churches have accepted as essential doctrine. And yet this is where the church got off track why? because although the Nicene creed does not contain the words "trinity" or "persons" (neither does the Bible by the way), what it DID say about the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit set the church on a course towards the doctrine of the Trinity of persons. One or 2 centuries later, the Athanasian creed, another statement of faith which was composed and assembled by St Athanasius, greatly expanded on the Nicene creed and DID include the words "trinity" and persons. This introduced contradiction, confusion, and polytheism into the church even though no one wants to admit it. (notice how none of them, not the church fathers, not Tertullian, or even St. Athanasius called upon the Lord, like the people in the Bible did. Whenever the children of the Lord wanted to know about God they called to Him and He answered. But in this situation, no one did that. None of them claim to even be inspired by God. All of this confusion was created by men trying to figure God out without the Spirit of God. God is not the author of confusion, but we get ourselves confused when we don't consult God about anything.

Godhead is in the bible

They are equal, but their roles are different. The Father is the head of Christ in the same way that the husband is the head of the wife, but that doesn't mean the wife is not equal to the husband. Christ came to do His Father's will, He subjected himself to His Father, but they are equal in worth, righteousness, holiness, love, justice, etc.

Just as Brianna said. Just as husband and wife are equal but the man is the head of the wife, so the Father and son are equal but the Son submits to the Father. Jesus coming to earth and dying for our sins wouldn't have been possible without this willing submission from Jesus to the Father.

@@joshuaWEC isnt that Modalism, like Ice, Water and Steam?

You do not read the bible This day i have called you my son I have begotten thee Not to mention the original hebrew is Elohim plural No one is getting converted to your space cadet wacko cult. You have no Savior and reject the entire bible you are dead in your sins Get off the internet and seek actual truth amd repent.

Space cadet creepo cult not even clever or sustainable Pointless drivel and yet you and you 35 fake profiles complain on the same videos every day hahahahaha You are really desperate and incompetent

@@iacoponefurio1915 Please every one do not respond to this unchristian person! he has just sent a very unplesant, bigotted and insulting relpy to me! I am reporting him!

My friend, nobody is saying that God SHARES His glory. He is God the father, God the son, and God the holy spirit. He shares His glory with NONE. Other than HIMSELF.

@@JustAnotherElias Thanks! comment appreciated. Look my point is that its not that the bible merely says 'there is ONE GOD, but that Its only the FATHER who is the 'One true God' not 'God the Father, Son & Holy Spirit'. Jesus said "The hour is coming when the true worshipers will WORSHIP THE FATHER" ( john 4:23,24). He didnt say " Will worship God", but the FATHER. Paul also singled out just the FATHER for greatest Glory at Phil 2:11 " That every tongue should confess that Jesus is Lord to the GLORY OF ( now note this..) GOD THE FATHER"" So the one the bible states we should worship is not just 'God' but GOD THE FATHER'. Also Paul's intro to at least THREE of his epistles directs us to 'bless' ( worship) The Father... "Blessed be the GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ" 2 Cor 1:3 Eph 1:3 Col 1:3 all KJV, So though a trinitarian will claim that any reference to our worshiping 'God' could mean the Father, Son & Holy Spirit' we are enjoined to worship the FATHER as Jesus said because as Jesus himself said "The Father is Greater than I am ( John 14:28 ). So the 'One God' I worship is the Father, and I do so THROUGH the Son as Jesus taught me! ( See John 16:23) No NT text tells us the 'worship the Son or worship the holy Spirit' ( as God).

No God has manifested Himself in three distinct persons. All those appearances are theophanies. We could those appearances were appearances of pre existent Christ before he took on flesh. When we read the Bible, we see God having this personal relationship within each persons of the Trinity, and that's how he manifests and works. We see that especially in the Gospels. About the thrones, we know that Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father and that the Holy Spirit works in unison within the two. Also in revelations, we see that Jesus will judge the nations.

what about lady wisdom in Prov8:20, was she the mother of Jesus playing in the celestial sandbox when they made all of creation, Same wording as Jn1:1....... she was there in the beginning with god and did a bunch of stuff.... i am being faceitious. No there is only one God, and the man Jesus raised and mediator on Gods throne, the only mediator between god and Man. (1Tim) That God is Holy, and Spirit, so that is God working among us in spirit, a Holy Spirit, not a third dude.

I think you're asking the wrong questions. Does a Christian need to believe in the Trinity to be saved? And if so, why did our Savior, nor the disciples, ever teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Why would Christ allow a council of men to come together to argue who God is (The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE), and thereby seek to define God? Can mankind define God? No, God reveals Himself to mankind. 1 John 5:7-8, The Johannine Comma is an interpolation according to Christian scholars (words added) to the Bible by over-zealous Trinitarians, who wanted some testimony to the Trinity, due to the fact that in the Bible there is none. Matthew 28:19 has come under suspicion, a commandment allegedly given by Christ to the disciples, but the disciples only baptized in the Savior’s name only, as demonstrated in the Book of Acts. The early church historian Eusebius, wrote (published circa 316 CE) in his book, Matthew 28:19, that Christ actually said, "Go and make disciples of all the nations in my name" (Eusebius, The History of the Church, p. 68, PENGU1N CLASSICS, 1965). The Trinity has only really existed since the 4th century. Historian H.G. Wells factually stated, "There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus ever heard of the Trinity-at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). Martin Luther is quoted in a sermon saying, "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 3, p. 406, 1988). It is time that the false Trinity Doctrine cease to exist in Christianity! Catholics and Protestants agree that “Whoever will be saved: before all things, it is necessary to keep the Catholic faith… unless he keeps this faith whole, he will perish everlastingly...And the Catholic faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity” (Catholicism, p. 69, 1961). Protestant professor of Theology James White, states, “The Trinity doctrine is misunderstood as well as ignored. It is so misunderstood that a majority of Christians when asked, give incorrect and at times downright heretical definitions of the Trinity” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 16). According to James White, around 75% of Christians, who think themselves to be Trinitarians, are actually Modalists. One God who at different times represents Himself in three different modes of being: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If belief in the Trinity doctrine is so critical to our salvation, then why did Christ and the disciples not preach the Trinity, which historically developed over 300 years after Christ? To say that one must believe in the Trinity in order to be saved, when Christ never stipulated the doctrine as a prerequisite for salvation is the grossest form of legalism! The man-made Trinity Doctrine is so ingrained into the imagination of Christians for salvation when Christ and the apostles never ever taught it, that many will actually stand condemned for believing in the Trinity according to the Tradition of men, and not of God. Christ warned us about teaching doctrines without one thus says the LORD! And He...said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men…” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:6-9). Christians do not need to believe in the Trinity in order to receive salvation and eternal life in the Kingdom of God! The Trinity is a useless Doctrine based solely on the misunderstanding of men. It is time for Christians to free themselves from the doctrines of men.

There is a difference He us called the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON. Big difference, you needed to go to more scriptures John 17:5 glorify Me with the glory We had together before the world began. Look at what Isaiah says "I am the Lord, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another Isaiah 42: 8 Yet Jesus shared that glory with the Father before the world was

@@saved6655 Isaiah says, " I am Jehovah", not lord. The statement makes no sense as you're implying as LORD is a title. John 17 makes perfect sense as Jesus was the first thing created and alongside his Father as everything else was created. No trinity implied or needed.

@@dennisjump8655 thanks for the response, your going to have to show me scripturally where Jesus was created

@@dennisjump8655 and my point is Yahweh shares His glory with no one yet Christ says He shared glory with Jehovah before the world was

@@saved6655 Glory: "high renown or honor won by notable achievements". There are different types of glory, even "the glory of men", the glory of a woman's hair (1 Corinthians 11:15), etc. I assume you're referencing John15:5 " And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the founding of the world." Jesus did not say " our glory", nor did he say, " Give me YOUR glory". He said "the glory I had" with you. All that's being said is that he enjoyed a glory with his Father, not the "my glory" of Isaiah that Jehovah makes plain he shares with no one. ( Note: God was addressing the Israelites in this passage that were engaging in idol worship. " I am Jehovah! That is my name! I will not give my my glory to another nor my praise to carved images". Isaiah 42:8) Jesus also says plainly that he was in "God's presence." So he is before his father enjoying the glory God gave him. No trinity there. Also, as the Son of Man, Jesus is showing he is the fulfillment of Daniel 7:13,14. He is given glory by the Ancient of Days, Jehovah God.

You are a heathen you hate the son because yo7 hate the Father Wacko cult member all day on the interent You dont even watch the vids your dead conscience is seared

@@iacoponefurio1915 You accuse but offer no proof or scripture. The HISTORY of the doctrine is well established and well documented. Despite your vitriolic, hate-filled accusation, I am the one defending the Father and his name. My conscience is quite alive, thank you very much. Christendom HATES those that expose it's pagan lies and false doctrines. ( P.S. The next time you call someone a heathen, perhaps it would do you better to use actual words, so as not to appear so childish. Proper punctuation helps to).

No that’s called modalism.

@@scottmcmahon91 Yes exactly, modalism is closer to the truth. The Father in the OT is the same one speaking as Jesus throughout the NT. Its not two seperate beings really then. Its the one guy the whole time, God was dwelling in Jesus.

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@@tigistnida5100 What's so funny?

THE APOSTLES HEARD WHAT JESUS SAID CLEARLY IN MATHEW 28;19 FIRST, IT SAYS BATIZING THEM IN THE NAME (SINGULAR) FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST ARE TITLES OF THE ONE GOD, THATS WHY THE APOSTLES NEVER BAPTIZED IN ANY OTHER WAY EXCEP THE ONE PROPER NAME OF THE ONE GOD, JESUS CHRIST.

Watch the video 😊

Why don't you watch the video again and take notes like I did? You will find there the reason why he quoted the word person/personhood. Be a good student. Repeat it!

@@rpireland6131 It is still wrong to use the word persons in reference to God. The bible does not teach that!

@@approvedofGod I would encourage you to watch the session again. It's the LANGUAGE problematic that has changed. He explained that from the use of the word person/personhood to essence/existence/substance. Take a pen and paper and take note. That will help. I did! I would agree with you if i found the same but try it.

@@rpireland6131 There's no nees to watch the video again. R.C. Sproul uses only METAPHYSICS and GREEK PHILOSOPHY of Plato and Aristoteles to teach the false doctrine of the Trinity. No Biblie from Genesis to Revelation, ONLY METAPHYSICS and HUMAN PHILOSOPHY. R.C. Sproul is a FALSE TEACHER.

@greglp776 Neither the milk or the meat of Gods word expresses the 3 person God

100.00 reward: present first the sinners prayer book chapter and verse, now do the same with the trinity. yes the trinity is absurdly catholic. yes, at the council of nicea. it cant be removed from history books. another angle, lets give the sinners prayer a chance first, jesus chose 12 apostles, the were to preach the gospel to all nations jesus told them and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, beginning at jerusalem luke 24;44, jesus was just risen from the dead, that marks the new testament beginning yet beginning at acts 2;38- the apostles began spreading the gospel. book chapter and verse, when did the apostles preach a set of words to repeat as in the sinners prayer to anyone? according to every trinitarian anything, this shows the apostles ignored jesus, picture this: jesus is screaming ! no peter! why arent you having those people repeat the sinners prayer??? and why did the apostles fail to ever explain something that would be of paramount importance like the trinity? sin is explained everywhere in the bible as is repentance and baptism in jesus name for the remission of sins? why does jesus say he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. but he that believeth not shall be damned? and not he that believeth and repeats the sinners prayer ???

prove it