One Legendary Scene - Zaheer’s Philosophy in The Legend of Korra 

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I find it interesting cause the Guru taught Aang something that is mentioned very slightly. In the Light Chakra blocked by Illusions. Aang and the Guru say, "The greatest illusion of the world is separation. Like the four nations. We are one people, but we live as if we are divided. We are all connected.". Which fits really well with the Anarchist philosophy of what governments do. When wars and violence are waged we end up dividing each other, instead of working together.

I have an anarchy symbol tatted on my chest but I’m a very peaceful guy. Anarchism is not always the answer. There’s a time and a place and you nailed it on the head with your explanation and I thank you for it.

This video got me thinking on already thought provoking topics. From my perspective, Zaheer was acting on a concept as opposed to a feasible goal. Korra had to deal with the harsh reality that things are not perfect. She could only do so much. Honestly, it makes the Avatar seem a whole lot more human. These imperfect ideas are further enunciated by the fact that in the end, she didn't truly get a victory against them. Next season they come to a tentative ally ship of sorts, if only for a moment. Love the analysis, psychology and politics in fiction is an underappreciated form of analysis!

A good villain is one who has a legitimate point, but their proposed solution is objectively wrong. They are right and wrong at the same time.

I found this wonderfully thought provoking. Best video in the playlist!

I don't think the show gets anarchy wrong. Zaheer clearly preaches for stateless communities driven by mutual aid. What he's wrong about is his zealous method of achieving that goal.

Great video. The Red Lotus were my favorite characters from the Korra era.

Ultimately, if your principles are so good, why not try to convince others of your principles. After all, it was Zaheer, the man himself who said "There is no need for aggression".

the problem with how anarchy is presented in the show is that anarchy isn't necessarily against all structure. the key to anarchy is consent and voluntarisms and that no individual or institution has the right to use coercive power (with force) upon dissenters. Zaheer made a good point on nations and borders are foolish ideas, and people suffer under the hands of despotic leaders, but the chaos and natural order part is a big naturalistic fallacy and an excuse to avoid dealing with potential issues after dismantling an establishment. my last point: anarchy thrusted upon a population is just as despotic as authoritarian regimes since you're dictating what an ideal life and freedom means to other people

This video was incredibly insightful and thought provoking. Thank you so much for making such a great analysis! I live in Mexico and I heard of the Cheran people and what they did, but now I'm even more interested in learning more about them and exploring this new path you've opened. 🌟

Such an incredible video of yours. So deep and perspective-changing.

This is pretty much why I’m done with the news and politics and just want a peaceful life helping others. All this rising against terrible leaders, taking them down, only for worse leaders to take their place. It’s a vicious cycle that won’t end. And that’s not what I want to be a part of.

This video is honestly an amazing intro to anarchy in general. Such good insight into into LOK's political standpoint.

This video is a great introductory explainer for anarchism, using a popular show to get people in the door. Anarchism has a rich intellectual tradition that I haven't seen explored very much in popular media -- LoK is the only one I can think of that comes close to treating it as a legitimate philosophy. Even then, it seems like the show writers' research began and ended with listening to Black Flag's discography. (No shade to the band or to lead singer Henry Rollins, who does a great job voicing Zaheer.) I'm looking forward to the licensed Avatar TTRPG (which is supposed to come out in Summer 2022 last I checked) and I hope to incorporate anarchism in a serious way in a Korra-era campaign. What would happen if, say, a bunch of former Red Lotus and Equalists set up an autonomous collective in the tunnels of Republic City?

I'd recommend the site "anarchy works", too. And as for violence... It depends. Zaheer's violence is certainly nonsensical. Complete anarcho-pacifism like that of Tolstoy isn't exactly viable either though, in my eyes: While I do think that ideally, a peaceful transition towards an anarchist system is preferred, I do believe that should the people go down that route, the state and its agents will try and enforce compliance through violence, at which point in my eyes the people do have the right to defend themselves and their ideals, with violence if need be. Violence should never be one's preferred means, but it certainly can be the lesser evil. And I do think that, say, Nestor Makhno's attempt, or that of the CNT-FAI, prove that *genuine* revolutionary violence can work, so long as one has the support of (a significant part of) the masses. Whilst yes, both those examples failed, I'd say they did achieve significant successes too, and failed only because of outside suppression. The Zapatistas and Rojava provide two other interesting examples.

Great video! For more exemple of quite anarchist societies you should look into Rojava and Chiapas, both larger exemple than the one in the video. Anarchist Spain is also a good historical exemple of anarchism put into practice. A lot of exemple of stateless and egalitarian societies can also be found when we look at indigenous groups all over the world, both past and present. Some exemple could be the Hadza people in Tanzania, the Smangus anarchist Christian community in Taiwan, the Piaroa in Venezuela/Columbia or geographic region of Zomia in Asia. Oh and in Avatar we could argue that the air nomads are anarchists: the live in egalitarian communes or as nomadic people, with nearly no government, no capitalist economy, etc

As a Christian Anarchist myself, I must say, great video sir. I'm glad you pointed the folly of violent Anarchists. I think the quote that illustrates all violent Anarchists hypocrisy best is this:"A man's natural rights are his own, against the whole world; and any infringement of them is equally a crime, whether committed by one man, or by millions; whether committed by one man, calling himself a robber, (or by any other name indicating his true character,) or by millions, calling themselves a government." -Lysander Spooner. Zaheer was a villain because he murdered people, and tried to murder Korra; not because he claimed to be a Anarchist. Also, I love that you included Tolostoy quotes. He's one of the best Christian Anarchist in history! Also, my favorite historical examples of Anarchism was the frontier west(called the wild west, but it wasn't in reality('The Not So Wild Wild West' is a great book on this)), Early Pennselvaia(which ignored its way into Anarchism), and Acadia(an island off the coast of eastern Canada).

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Id also look up the rojava democratic confederacy in North East SyrIa. great vid

Great video!

Is there any way killing the avatar would have worked out well for Zaheer? Sure there would be some chaos and disarray, but most people would likely want his blood for killing someone that is beloved by millions as Kuvira said. You can bet your ass Korra’s friends and allies would spread the word about what Zaheer did to rally them to their cause.

Zaheer and Eren Yeager are my favorite characters ever because they believe in freedom and attained true free Eren became a bird and Zaheer is free to rome the spirit world

Great video

You clearly know what you talk about, and I always respect that. I also fully agree Zaheer is extremely interesting, and his philosophy makes sense - for his character. However, I have my disagreements, and while nit technically accurate, I like to phrase it this way: 'Governments don't cause wars. Wars cause governments.' Obviously, governments are responsible for wars, but governments are a response to crises - and what greater crisis than war? To succesfully wage war, you need incredible amounts of organisation; just ask the Celts, who, despite better equipment, better warriors and far greater numbers, just couldn't outmatch Rome and its brutally efficient killing machine. Actually, the Celts are very interesting here because while they couldn't match 'civilized' States, they actually had far more advanced and sophisticated cultures than they often get credit for, due to contact, often conflict, with Carthage, Greeks and Rome, on top of tribal wars against both each other and Germanic peoples. Anarchy, like Communism, is a beautiful dream. But it can never work. If it were achieved globally tomorrow, it would last until the first crisis and then people would go 'someone should have the power to do something about that'. By all means, dream! Just... be aware. Personally, no system will ever be perfect, as it will necessarily be made up by fallible humans, so I believe in slow, deliberate, gradual improvement. Governments have done great evil, sometimes even deliberately, but we couldn't go without. I understand getting rid of the whole thing sounds appealing, but it's just not a good idea. We've had revolutionary waves before in history, and I for one can do without.

Zaheer was kinda based ngl

Tbh I’ve always liked his character from korra at the time it aired and i rewatched it around 3 years ago but tbh if all gov leaders were removed I think people would start thinking properly and boarders shouldn’t even be a thing of passports since after all the world is for everyone but once again lovely breakdown man! Also to suggest you able to do an analysis fire force ? Manga since there’s interesting things relating bout humanity

Actually, anarchists across history did engage in violence. In fact, the late XIX Century saw the height of anarchist terrorism, with killings including a US President, the Italian King, or Empress Sissi from the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

As an insurrectionary anarchist, I agree with basically every point here except the nonviolence bit. My contention boils down to one simple question: what do you do when tyrants refuse to give up their power? Yes, Zaheers plan was horribly naive, but in the scenario where they've done the work to gain popular support, how do you resist the inevitable violent suppression of the monarchy or state? My view is that if you remain nonviolent, you remain under control.

💀 bro said "despotic" and showed Uncle Joe falling up the stairs Don't change

You have borders because ideas and values are different from population to population and some are a lot better than others and need to be defended

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The Legend of Korra didn't get Anarchy wrong. Zaheer did. I believe the show was intentional in making Zaheer's philosophy of what Anarchy is purposely flawed, to be an example of how this, as you put it "Hollywood" esc depiticiton of what Anarchy is is wrong, both from what how true Anarchy and the ramifications of it. And even with Zaheer's idea of Anarchism being wrong, I do believe in the context of the show, it made sense why he probably didnt think he had no other choice but to use violence. He probably assumed that people wouldn't dare try take back power for themesleves unless these nations authority figures we're removed. The Earth Queen had the Dai Li, and given what we've seen them do through Avatar's history, I don't blame anyone for not thinking they had any chance of opposing her rule.. Not only does Korra herself straight up point out same criticism you mentioned in regards to his version of what Anarchy is, but Book 4 showed exactly what happens as a result of this wrong type of Anarchy being performed. Zaheer even comes to recognise this when he hears about Kurvia. Still a good video overall.

Legend of Korra wasn't good, but Zaheer made sense. It balanced out Korras anti- Feminine personality Humans are tribal, Warlords pop up in a Vacuum

Gotta love it when uneducated people give their take on politics

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Actually, I think that the show does get right the effects anarchy has on society, rather than the more nuanced philosophical descriptions. As such, I think it's quite fitting. In general I think this show gets politics right, especially the negative consquences of radical ideologies, which is something few ideologues acknowledge.

I don't think the show gets anarchy wrong. I think they intentionally make Zaheer have a similar philosophy to that of an anarchy, but differs fundamentally in the way to get there. The show KNOWS Zaheer isn't right, and that it isn't true anarchy. After all, they still have to paint Zaheer as a bad guy who ultimately needs to be taken out.

The black lives matters protests weren’t anarchy tho 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

I disagree with you on the role and purpose of government. The purpose and role of the government is to provide for the best possible quality of life of it's people. Usually by organizing and administering the various products and services a society needs but individual people can't manage on their own.

The problem with anarchy is that it never works. Leo Tolstoy quote is a logic fallacy. Just because laws create slavery and laws are made by governments you cannot conclude that the only solution is to abolish governments. SInce laws are also responsible for helping the people who need most, laws are reponsible for bringuing security to people, laws are responsible for easy access to basic needs to the population. Also you can have laws that don't lead to slavery. So the idea that you need to abolish governments to abolish slavery is a flawd logic. Also it only abolish wide spread slavery. At a individual level if there's no laws, you can still have slavery. The problem with the core idea of anarchy from Mikhail Bakunin is that if there's no authority over people, the individual is the one that is going to apply authority. The problem is almost every individual will choose to apply authority that favours themselfs unless there's too much ethical and/or conscience pressure. Basically even if others are more justified to have something most people will still decide that they themselves are the ones that should have something because we always see things that go against ourselves as more unfair than things that go against others. This is why we have a judicial system, we have long noticed that when law and fairness is left to the individual envolved in the processes they will rarely be fair. This is an ideology that believes the systems are the origin of the flaws we see in society when in most cases the those flaws already exist on a individual level. The point of th system is to reduce personal flaws. Yes governments have been responsible for huge attrocities but are we going to pretend that at an individual level they don't exist? People kill each other over common day disputes. People violate, torture, kill, are violent on a individual levell without any need for government intervention to this happends. Like any animal in the animal kingdom, humans commit attrocities on a small scale, governments are not the ones doing that. Governments have the potencial to exacerbate this violence to a new scale and force people that didn't want part in it to be part of it, but the violence already exist. Governments create structure, organization and focus which improves the scale of good things like progress, economy, access to basic needs, quality of life but it also creates a possability for a bigger scale in violence and injustice. The mexico example you gave my have worked, but I can give you an example where it happend something similar and definitly not worked. A lot of "favelas" in Brazil did the same. The people took the power over their oen hands in certain regions and the crime an quality of life from those poeple only decreased over the years. Right now citizens themselves want the police to enter and do some pressure over drug dealer groups that have stablished themselves in those places. THe need for government intervention is asked by a lot of the citizens in those places but they can't do it easily since there's a lot of powerfull new gang groups that control those areas. It all started with a close state of anarchy that allowed people to create their own homes with a community effort but it ended up poorly.

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