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One of the Best POKER BLUFFS Ever? Hand of the Day 

Conscious Poker by Alec Torelli
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I know you guys love poker bluffs, so I decided to share this epic hand of the day with you from one of our ConsciousPoker Pro Members, Derek. In this hand, Derek uses game theory and in depth hand reading to turn his hand into a bluff in an incredibly sick spot. Will it work? Is this one of the best poker bluffs ever? Let me know your thoughts in a comment below.
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@benpike323
@benpike323 6 лет назад
I tried this move in a 1/3 game. It wasn't pretty.
@anthonycarchidi578
@anthonycarchidi578 6 лет назад
Villain Has to call 462 to win 1433, Getting a little over 3 to 1 I don’t anyone at that level would ever fold a boat. They don’t fold boats at those low stakes....EVER. I think at that moment hero was jamming to get villain off a chop I believe. Hero put villain on like J♣️10♣️ or J♠️10♠️. That jam at those stakes will be a losing play in the long run.
@ConsciousPoker
@ConsciousPoker 6 лет назад
It's true it's hard to get low stakes players to fold. Really have to know your opponent.
@alexleach4002
@alexleach4002 6 лет назад
AK, AQ, KQ, T9, T8, all make much better bluffs. They block more boats and cannot profitably call.
@Zindaras
@Zindaras 6 лет назад
Agreed. AJ really isn't at the bottom of your range. A lot of the two-pair combos (AK, KQ) should really be here. If you want to bluff once in thirty times, as Alec argues for, AJ is too high up in your distribution, and doesn't have enough boat-blockers.
@alexleach4002
@alexleach4002 6 лет назад
Yes all the Jacks are calls. Solver says raise with AA, TT, and AT. Call KT, QT and all the Jacks, bluff raise with T9 and T8 about half the time (call the other half). AK AQ are mixed strategy. about 75% fold 20% call and 5% raise. KQ is fold.
@alexleach4002
@alexleach4002 6 лет назад
Noteworthy is that if you jam with the suggested range (AA, TT, AT, some T9 and T8), solver says AJ is a better calling hand for villain than QT is. AJ blocks the AA and AT value and QT blocks the T9 and T8 bluffs.
@alexleach4002
@alexleach4002 6 лет назад
I think you have the wrong idea about GTO. If you play that way there is nothing your opponent can do to exploit you. He can jam 100% of his hands or fold 100% of this hands or play perfect strategy. It does not matter what he does because your strategy is balanced. You could play your strategy face up telling him exactly what hands you are betting and what hands your are folding etc. and there is still nothing they could do about it to make more money off you.
@alexleach4002
@alexleach4002 6 лет назад
Don't get me wrong. I don't like playing GTO. GTO is a very self absorbed way to approach poker. You are playing your cards and not really considering your opponents too much. As your opponents deviate their play from GTO you make money as they over fold or under bluff etc. You don't worry about them you just worry about you. I personally hate this and think it is bad for the game. For one the margins are very small and you must be willing to take on large variance to play this way. Also it is typically much better to use at high stakes because rake has less of an impact and the little margins become significant because lots of money at play. Personally I think playing GTO is not playing poker. I think poker is a human game and you want to play other humans. When everyone wants to play GTO it becomes a race to be a robot. Humans are not good at that. Robots are pretty good at that. Lets do human things. I think we should be over bluffing in spots where we think our opponents are over folding. And I think we should make hero calls with our entire range when we think our opponent is over bluffing. I think deviating from GTO is what makes poker poker. I think that is what the game is all about. Knowing where the GTO line is so you can make good decisions is very useful. Don't use your knowledge of GTO to kill the game, use GTO to become great at it. In this situation in particular I would think about it this way. If I Jam here what should my opponet do. He is supposed call with AJ and AT KT QQ and. He should fold QT QJ KJ TJ. Do I think he will be calling more or less then this? If he is calling more than the hands above you should under bluff and remove some of the hands from your bluffing range. If he is folding too much? If so then you should add some more hands to your bluffing range. (like KQ). Is he folding everything but AA TT? If so lets bluff with all our aces even AJ. From playing poker I think most people under fold in this spot. My thinking would be to only bluff my T8s and take the T9s out of my bluffing range.
@brandondorsey7204
@brandondorsey7204 6 лет назад
Hero was repping aces full. I don't think that I could have folded queen ten there ever
@d1nawton148
@d1nawton148 6 лет назад
Brandon Dorsey I don't actually believe this hand happened ay. Find it so hard to think a low stakes player folded q10 there. I couldn't have either.
@lxr0913
@lxr0913 6 лет назад
low stakes live, it's near impossible. low stakes online? that's where you find the nittiest of the nittiest players. maniacs like Gus Hansen may steal 30 blinds in a row but definitely lose all the buyin in one hand at some point.
@mylifesamessandashambles
@mylifesamessandashambles 5 лет назад
me neither.
@mello021
@mello021 6 лет назад
Honestly? I think we are being result oriented here, the opponent had a great price to call on the river and not be exploitable later. Credits for him for had the balls to pull the trigger but only worked because the opponent tried to make hero fold, that’s why he showed.
@ConsciousPoker
@ConsciousPoker 6 лет назад
True, but poker's all about exploiting opponents. If you know they are going to overfold, then go for it! Sure he's getting 3:1, but does he really expect his opponent to be bluffing 25% of the time to break even? Most of the time this isn't a bluff, which makes me like it!
@TheDegenVagabond
@TheDegenVagabond 6 лет назад
Everyone with the oh it's suicidal blah blah comments. The man went for it and got it. Props. Long term EV play? Nope. Working once in a specific situation? Yup. Ballsy and I love it. No gamble no future.
@Samurai31631
@Samurai31631 6 лет назад
Imo villain messed up bad. Being OOP had to with it, still villain messed up. Credit to hero for pulling the trigger. Hero made it look like he had AA, A10, K10, or KK (likely thought you had KK). Luckily villain played straight forward, thus making him think that you played it in a similar way. If you think about it, calling a bet on the turn (if hero had KK) means that hero could have a straight draw. Remember that hero opened the action preflop. I believe that if villain was a bad player he would have snap called hero. Q10 isn’t something you fold though. Villain calls and takes the cooler if that’s the case...
@Saracinderallasushis
@Saracinderallasushis 6 лет назад
Noe Zamora any good player is going to fold kk on the turn, so he wouldn't put him on kK on the river.
@Samurai31631
@Samurai31631 6 лет назад
Dog wag So then any great player would call with KK?
@Saracinderallasushis
@Saracinderallasushis 6 лет назад
Noe Zamora on the turn fold, unless the bet was very cheap.
@JaeJonson
@JaeJonson 6 лет назад
People are saying that the villain doesn't understand pot odds but what value does Q10 beat here? If he assumes hero is never bluffing he can fold. Still I do think it's a suicidal play. Not too many lower stake players will fold a boat, ever. And if villain ever thinks he's trying to get bluffed off a chop, then he needs to call.
@ConsciousPoker
@ConsciousPoker 6 лет назад
THIS
@AndyKaknes
@AndyKaknes 6 лет назад
One thing you didn't mention during the analysis Alec was that the King of diamonds would have given the hero a Royal Flush. Although only 1 out, it does give the hero a little more incentive to call the villain's bet on the turn.
@BAlvn-yr6ej
@BAlvn-yr6ej 6 лет назад
i think i'd fold turn, since the board is paired...you don't know if a straight or flush will be good, you are probably behind already, and i just think that hand (yes, with the royal draw) looks a lot better than it really is in this spot. villain has quite a few monsters in his range (QT certainly would have just called, AT and TT also probably just call pre in that spot too)...very dicey kind of spot.
@heyglasses
@heyglasses 6 лет назад
not a good spot on the turn at all for the hero. Hero being a hero going for the 1 outer.
@BAlvn-yr6ej
@BAlvn-yr6ej 6 лет назад
heyglasses thank you for validating my thinking here...Alec didn't seem to comment on this nor did the other commenters I read below up to 9 hours ago, so I was a bit worried. terrible reverse implied odds if you hit a straight or flush too, eh?
@mariofajardo5361
@mariofajardo5361 6 лет назад
Wow can’t believe that dude folded!!! Epic play! Don’t think I could do it.
@LTdrumma
@LTdrumma 6 лет назад
Sick bluff thats top level shit, sick fold by opponent, i wouldve never folded
@Cwra1smith
@Cwra1smith 5 лет назад
If I had Q-10 I would have jammed the turn. No way to fold a boat there.
@nikolaminovic
@nikolaminovic 6 лет назад
pot on riv is 746$ Hero have 687$ behind... realy you would turn str8 into bluff there? what you try to achive with that?To fold boat when he would have to call 462$ in pot of 1433$... that is suicidal...He just got lucky that oponent doesnt understand pot odds there... and alec you are result oriented in this video...
@nikolaminovic
@nikolaminovic 6 лет назад
check on flop is perfect... I would do it also... and it is true that you dont beat any value shoves in villans place, but hero have enough bluffs to justify call, and considering pot odds to be profitable one ;)
@nikolaminovic
@nikolaminovic 6 лет назад
definetly for pot control, you are ahead most of the times here, because there is slim chance that those 2 guys have AK or AQ there (because they will 3-bet pre) but there are some combos of T that they actualy can have there, and like alec said there is low chance you can have 3 streets of value with heros hand, and by checking also our hand is under repped and we can bet bigger on later streats to get value of weaker aces.
@nikolaminovic
@nikolaminovic 6 лет назад
you are thinking righ about when you should bet, to not give free card for oponent when there are a lot of draws, but this is not that situation... there are no draws here exept some gutshots, but with J in our hand we block a lot of them. You should bet on wet boards a bet bigger to charge for drows... this is very dry board and betting to charge drows just dont make any sence ;)
@jordananderson4710
@jordananderson4710 6 лет назад
would have to be the nittiest dude in the world
@jordananderson4710
@jordananderson4710 6 лет назад
whoa he folded!!
@BAlvn-yr6ej
@BAlvn-yr6ej 6 лет назад
no, i don't think so. that bluff is pretty suicidal...he's giving villain better than 3-1 and villain's sizing looked very much like a value bet, indicating a lot of strength. can't agree that was a good bluff, unless hero had a lot of history and a very good read on his opponent...even still, you have good showdown value with your straight..yet another reason i don't like this play at all.
@matthewhalliday5294
@matthewhalliday5294 6 лет назад
Realistically this wasn’t a well thought out jam, the truth is when bluffing correctly you have to fold out the range of hands your bluff is aiming to fold. There is no way that he was trying to fold out a boat that was just lucky that for some reason the villain folded that hand. If they were deeper and he jammed 2x pot or something I can say fair enough it’s a good bluff because that may push the villain off the hand but he just isn’t deep enough for him to intentionally push him off the hand he has.
@irascib1e
@irascib1e 6 лет назад
I was hoping for a Kd on the turn for a royal flush!
@JaeJonson
@JaeJonson 6 лет назад
I love bluffing with my royal flushs in Omaha to try and get my opponent off a chop.
@TheDaveBloom
@TheDaveBloom 6 лет назад
Alec do you offer Omaha coaching as well?
@ConsciousPoker
@ConsciousPoker 6 лет назад
I don't, strictly NL at the moment. I've heard great things about PLOQuickPro.com
@tjmitchell13
@tjmitchell13 6 лет назад
Who says no one ever folds a boat lol. I wouldn't have the self control to fold if I was villain
@noyb154
@noyb154 5 лет назад
Did he think he was raising the river for value though?
@natemurray02
@natemurray02 6 лет назад
such a terrible fold. From villians perspective, Hero is only repping Aces full (6 combos), A10o (3 combos), and K10 of clubs. I dont think QQ or KK overcall on the flop. So Villian is only credibly losing to 10 hand combos imo. If Villian is folding this high up in his range he is playing wayyyy too exploitably.
@Slyou333
@Slyou333 6 лет назад
He almost never have straight. So you are trying to bluff a full. House. Indeed a great bluff..... Lol
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