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One Stick Method: Rappelling with a Mad-rock Safeguard and a Figure 8 

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Saddle hunting has become very popular the last few years, with that, there are multiple ways to climb the tree you will be hunting out of. Today we will be going over the “one stick method” where you use one climbing stick with an aider to ascend the tree and then repel down. Luke will be using a Mad-rock safeguard as his main device for repelling and Mark will show you an alternative method with using a figure 8 descender.
Chapter Markers:
0:00 Intro
00:50 one stick climbing with Safeguard
04:00 transitioning around a branch with safeguard
05:36 Descending the tree with safeguard
09:40 Advantages of figure 8
10:45 Climbing with the figure 8
13:50 Transitioning around a branch
14:39 Descending the tree with a figure 8
19:35 Closing
Links to the gear we use in this video.
Saddle:
www.latitudeoutdoors.com/prod...
OHM tether Locker:
www.innovatingtheoutdoors.com...
Tender:
doublesteps.com/product/prusi...
Dynaglide pull down rope:
doublesteps.com/product/dynag...
Teufelberger Resc-tech tether/repel rope:
doublesteps.com/product/teufe...
Sterling 6mm TRC for tying friction backup knots:
doublesteps.com/product/sterl...
Canyon Elite 9mm tether/repel rope:
doublesteps.com/product/9mm-c...
Tubular webbing to make your own climbing aider:
doublesteps.com/product/1-mil...
Figure 8:
doublesteps.com/product/grive...
Mad-rock Safeguard:
doublesteps.com/product/mad-r...
One-Stick: Ultimate one stick from eastern woods outdoors
doublesteps.com/product/ultim...
One-Stick: Modified Muddy pro:
Muddy Pro Sticks (4-Pack), Black smile.amazon.com/dp/B00TP7UCD...
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Комментарии : 114   
@JBJHonez
@JBJHonez 7 месяцев назад
Finally, a video that shows a not so perfect tree that has no limbs. Great vid guys
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching!
@davefrancis6654
@davefrancis6654 8 месяцев назад
I really appreciate you demonstrating this method in the snow and with cold weather hunting gear on, as most other videos are in good weather and seem to be further south. I'll be one sticking in the northern snow soon!
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 8 месяцев назад
Good luck and be safe!
@charlesshepherd9132
@charlesshepherd9132 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video shooting both methods in a safe and concise manner. I will save this video to refer others to who are considering one-stick climbing.
@Big-G-man85
@Big-G-man85 Год назад
I’ll be sticking with the 3 sticks and a stand method. Nice video!
@AHeartForHomeEducation
@AHeartForHomeEducation 2 года назад
Thanks for the thorough review!
@GrowHunting
@GrowHunting Год назад
Gentlemen, Great demonstration of one stick methods. I wish I had seen it before investing is mutli-stick. We shall see what next year brings.
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
@growhunting thanks for watching. One sticking has been a good climbing method for us, but there is definitely a time and place for multiple sticks. Good luck out there.
@thewordexaminedministries6206
This is a great video. Well planned and good quality. Thanks!
@fredmassie2313
@fredmassie2313 2 года назад
Right on! Good content!
@bobetzweiler2890
@bobetzweiler2890 2 года назад
Great demonstration. Thanks!
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 2 года назад
Thanks Bob!
@brewhan3108
@brewhan3108 Год назад
Excellent video. Thank you!!
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
Thanks for watching.
@timcole2701
@timcole2701 Год назад
Awesome - thanks for the info
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
Thanks for watching Tim!!
@vitalgroundoutdoors
@vitalgroundoutdoors 2 года назад
Great job gents!!
@bodeshockley1786
@bodeshockley1786 2 года назад
Best video on one sticking out there
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 2 года назад
Thank you!
@aarontaylor6000
@aarontaylor6000 Год назад
Thanks for the video.
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
No problem Aaron. Hopefully it helped you out, thanks for watching! Good luck this season.
@BushwhackerMountainCoTV
@BushwhackerMountainCoTV 2 года назад
Awesome review! Thanks fellas!
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@BushwhackerMountainCoTV
@BushwhackerMountainCoTV 2 года назад
@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 you’re welcome! Just subscribed to the channel!
@michaelmanthey9858
@michaelmanthey9858 2 года назад
Thank you
@GregorsOutdoors
@GregorsOutdoors Год назад
You guys make it look so effortless! I'm okay with afternoon hunts but predawn is not up for discussion at this point. The repelling is cool too but I'm not going to try it. Thanks for all the helpful information and great explanations along the way! Stay safe out there!
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
Thanks for watching Johnny! Stay safe and good luck out there this year.
@ISaddleHunt
@ISaddleHunt 2 года назад
Nice climbs and vid sirs 👊🏽
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 2 года назад
Glad you liked it!
@WillCamp4
@WillCamp4 Год назад
Cool video. Only thing keeping me from one sticking is the fear of dropping my stick and having to figure out how to repel lol.
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
It takes a little practice to get comfortable one sticking and rappelling but we have definitely benefited from it. Good luck to you this season!
@tylerlee549
@tylerlee549 11 месяцев назад
Nice video
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 11 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@smau990
@smau990 11 месяцев назад
At 3:57 you have enough slack to break bones and get internal bleeding from the fall onto static rope in case the ladder breaks. If you use hyperstatic aramid/dyneema rope like oplux, the result is even worse. You could put in the linemans before advancing on the steps, hold on the linemans and skip it up on every step as one would do when using spurs and linemans belt to climb a pole.
@adamsoutdoors
@adamsoutdoors Год назад
Great video guys. Liked that you showed both ways of repealing down. I have used a figure 8 in repelling before. Definitely way cheaper to get started of your not sure if you will like the saddle hunting. Thanks
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
Thanks for watching Adam’s Outdoors.
@jowhi9296
@jowhi9296 Год назад
I really want to switch to one stick. So much easier it seems when you done hunting, I always stay out as late as I can and often times have issues finding steps on way down lol
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
Packing up at the end of the hunt is a breeze. It definitely is safer coming down the tree in my opinion and doesn’t take long to get everything gathered up to get out of the woods.
@boatkid888
@boatkid888 Год назад
That's pretty cool. I was wondering how the one stick method worked.
@Patrick-oy6er
@Patrick-oy6er Год назад
Great video guy's! I just started looking into saddle hunting and have watched a shit ton of vid's and this is the clearest most concise one yet. Seems to be the safest as you're tethered the whole time......I'll definitely be giving this a go ... thanks!
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
Thanks for watching! We totally agree on the safety aspect.
@joemarchewka4865
@joemarchewka4865 Год назад
Very nice video, you can always learn something. Is there a closer view out there that shows a closeup of an auto-blocker when repelling?
@JohnNemeth-vx9vz
@JohnNemeth-vx9vz Год назад
Problem I see with the figure-8 setup is if you drop it while at height you've lost your ability to repel. With the safeguard it is always attached. A fix would be to tether it.
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
Thanks for watching. If I dropped the figure 8, I would tie a Munter hitch with my carabiner and use that to get down the tree.
@jesseherbert2585
@jesseherbert2585 Год назад
Hi, outstanding upload. My wife's brother (her twin funny enough) is a world famous mountain guide, and I have been thinking of asking him about options for saddle hunting. Now not needed! One question: why are many folks repelling down rather than just reversing the ascent? Does it save a lot of time? Safer? I enjoy minimizing weight and gear on walks in, so I am loathe to buy more rope, unless it is a substantial improvement... Thank you once again for a top shelf upload, fellas.
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
Thanks for watching Jesse, repelling down the tree saves quite a bit of time and we feel it is safer than trying to descend with a stick and an aider.
@jesseherbert2585
@jesseherbert2585 Год назад
Good to know. I'm doing it then. Thanks and good hunting and all the rest. Here is my return tip: check out Arthur Haines and his videos. Might be super valuable in the coming years...I've studied with him and he is insanely knowledgeable.
@LynnJynh9315
@LynnJynh9315 8 месяцев назад
According to Madrock, the Safeguard is not rated for 8mm and can only be backed up from above the device.
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 7 месяцев назад
Yes, you are correct the Madrock is not rated for 8mm rope.
@nickkuhle5290
@nickkuhle5290 Год назад
Any chance you can share how you get your distal hitch, secondary safety, hooked up?
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
Hi Nick, thanks for watching. We will try and get a video out soon going over how to tie the distal hitch. Thanks!
@sspice8934
@sspice8934 2 года назад
Great video. There is alot of confusion on backing up the madrock. I contacted the manufacturer directly and they were adamant NOT to put a backup on the brakeside of the device.
@paytonwolfe6683
@paytonwolfe6683 Год назад
Really? Do you know why? I use a madrock and I was wondering wether I needed a back up or not
@sspice8934
@sspice8934 Год назад
@@paytonwolfe6683 They told me if you were to have slack and fall the knot could get slammed through the madrock with such force to cause it to not operate and fail. I am referring to a backup below the device.
@paytonwolfe6683
@paytonwolfe6683 Год назад
@@sspice8934 I was talking about the same back up as you are. That’s nice to know
@dewaynewebb3467
@dewaynewebb3467 Год назад
Awesome video guys. I plan on using the figure 8. What size diameter and length of the distel hitch rope? And where did y’all get the ones you used? Thanks
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
Thanks for watching! We use 6mm Sterling TRC rope for the Distel hitch. A 4 foot piece is what you need for length. You will have to tie a double fisherman’s knot for the loops on the end. Let us know if you have any other questions. We bought ours from Eastern woods Outdoors. doublesteps.com/product/sterling-6mm-trc/
@youtoober87
@youtoober87 2 года назад
I like how the first guy had his tether already hooked up to his madrock and back up. However when I try this I feel like my madrock/carabiner are too loud clanking around before I get them under tension. Any tips? besides stealth strips? they just seem to come off after only a few rappels.
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 2 года назад
Youtoober87 I wrapped my carabiner with hockey tape and that seems to help with the noise. Just don’t wrap the part of your carabiner where your bridge will be sliding through. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching
@ajdrew252
@ajdrew252 10 месяцев назад
Very informative. How high do you typically hunt? About how many feet is the rappel rope/tether?
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 9 месяцев назад
Hi @ajdrew252, thanks for watching. It all depends on the tree and how much cover there is. Here in Michigan lately I’ve been hunting around 15’ in the early season. When the leaves fall off I’ll normally hunt around 20’. My rappel rope is 35’.
@mrbreeze30
@mrbreeze30 Год назад
Where did you get the grey plastic rope clips?
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
Innovating the outdoors OHM Tether locker. www.innovatingtheoutdoors.com/product-page/the-flexi-ohm-tether-locker
@johnvillella3197
@johnvillella3197 2 года назад
Great video- can you tell us what rope you use for the distel hitch and how to make one? Also, what pouch is that? Thanks!!
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 2 года назад
Hi John, glad you liked the video. For the Distel hitch we use Sterling 6mm TRC. Here is a link showing you how to make one. The pouches are from Latitude outdoors and work very well. Link below. www.101knots.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/How-to-Tie-a-Distel-Hitch.jpg www.latitudeoutdoors.com/products/dump-pouch-1
@johnvillella3197
@johnvillella3197 2 года назад
@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Awesome! Just ordered the bag and will look for the ropes. Thanks Again
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 2 года назад
Here is a link for the rope as well. doublesteps.com/product/sterling-6mm-trc/
@greg7712
@greg7712 4 месяца назад
What kind of hitch did you guys say you use to ascend the tree? I couldn’t make it out
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 4 месяца назад
Thanks for watching. It is the Distel hitch.
@sashly99
@sashly99 Год назад
When I rappel down with. The mad rock safe guard its really not smooth at all! Any ideas why
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
Hi S. Ashley thanks for watching. The only time I have issues is if my rope is wet. Then it seems a little jerky. What rope are you using? If it’s a stiff rope if possible won’t feed in very well.
@trinitymountainarts1196
@trinitymountainarts1196 2 года назад
Where do you purchase a clip for securing your repel rope so you don't get slack in the line? What is it called?
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 2 года назад
Hi, it is called an Ohm Tether locker. You can buy it from innovating the outdoors. Thanks for watching. www.innovatingtheoutdoors.com/product-page/the-flexi-ohm-tether-locker
@trinitymountainarts1196
@trinitymountainarts1196 2 года назад
@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 thank you for the lead on a repel clip. Bought one!
@LoCoOutdoor
@LoCoOutdoor 2 года назад
What type of tether locker do you use?
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 2 года назад
Hi Mike, it is the OHM tether locker by Innovating the outdoors. Thanks for watching. www.innovatingtheoutdoors.com/product-page/the-flexi-ohm-tether-locker
@cohesive3482
@cohesive3482 Год назад
Whats the little rope keeper you use to keep the quicklink from slipping?
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
That would be a OHM Tether locker. Thanks for watching. You can buy it here. www.innovatingtheoutdoors.com/product-page/the-flexi-ohm-tether-locker
@cohesive3482
@cohesive3482 Год назад
@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Thanks!
@northeastwildernesswalker
@northeastwildernesswalker Год назад
So how hard is it for you at 4 or 5 in the morning climbing up?? Especially in a hunting situation. Is it easy to stay quiet. It seems like alot of movement too. I have all my saddle stuff in the mail and these things have been in the back of my mind. I'm excited to do it but I'm worried about those few things. What are your thoughts?
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
Hi Fowl Shot, these are all good questions. It all comes down to practice, Luke and I both practice before the season to make sure everything is dialed in. I used to use a Climber and I know I make less noise and I find it much easier to get up a tree, especially ones with branches.
@northeastwildernesswalker
@northeastwildernesswalker Год назад
@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 thanks for your time man, I have always used a summit viper mini elite SD with great success, however I've gotten In so many great hunting areas that I COULDN'T hunt because you are so limited with a climber. I'm excited to use the saddle. Thanks man. Practice makes perfect
@Skizzlawncare
@Skizzlawncare Год назад
Great video. What Sitka jacket is that in E2 ?
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
@@Skizzlawncare Thanks for watching. It’s the Sitka incinerator jacket
@jowhi9296
@jowhi9296 Год назад
I might have missed it. But what was on the top of the stick you reached down to grab onto?
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
Hi Joseph, on the top of the muddy pro stick is just a long gear tie. On Luke’s One stick from Eastern woods outdoors is a small piece of wire that sticks out of the top of the stick.
@jowhi9296
@jowhi9296 Год назад
@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 awesome thanks
@garygrimes2024
@garygrimes2024 10 месяцев назад
What kind of stick are you using?
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for watching. Luke is using an Eastern Woods ultimate one stick with a flat Scout platform on top. Mark is using a Muddy Pro stick.
@judelevy4313
@judelevy4313 2 года назад
What brand aiders do y’all use, Or did you sew them yourself?
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 2 года назад
Yes we made them ourselves. They are easy to make. If you are interested in making one we could make a video for you. Thanks for watching!
@judelevy4313
@judelevy4313 2 года назад
@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 I just got a muddy stick for one sticking, and want to make one of those aiders, do y’all have a video that y’all followed to make them?
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 2 года назад
Hi Jude, no there wasn’t a video we used to make them unfortunately. If you shoot us an email we can send you some information on what materials you will need and the cut list to make each step. You can either sew them by hand or with a machine which is recommended. peteandrepeatoutdoors@gmail.com
@riggedandjimmiedgarage7268
@riggedandjimmiedgarage7268 Год назад
How much does your whole climbing setup weigh? I'm thinking about ditching my climber and trying a one stick saddle setup
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
My pack for opening day of gun season was 28lb. That’s with jacket, camera arm, yeti with hot drink, 40 oz of water, food, one stick, and predator platform.
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
My pack for opening day of gun season was 28lb. That’s with jacket, camera arm, yeti with hot drink, 40 oz of water, food, one stick, and predator platform.
@UnfiItered
@UnfiItered Год назад
Why does the mad rock tethered rope look smaller that the figure 8 tethered rope?
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
We are using different ropes, one is an 8mm and the other is 9mm.
@UnfiItered
@UnfiItered Год назад
@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 does the mad rock still bite good on the 8mm rope?
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Год назад
Yes, I have never had any issues with it slipping. Just a heads up 8mm is out of spec for the mad rock
@franklinkungfu
@franklinkungfu 2 года назад
I still have not seen a demonstration of one stick climbing that eliminates slack from the system. There are too many opportunities for falls with this climbing method.
@fgpritchett64
@fgpritchett64 Год назад
It’s definitely better than the days of screwing steps into the tree as you climb up and then getting in some weird positions where you’re holding on with just your legs or whatever you can grip the tree with while you hang a lock-on.
@sspice8934
@sspice8934 Год назад
a good way to eliminate slack is to pull up the brake side of your rope as you go up your aider. I use my lineman belt once I step on my one stick. and then advance the tether up. Don't know if that made sense but it works really well. I have very little to no slack at all times
@ThomasShue
@ThomasShue Год назад
Do that in the dark at 25f
@Peanutbutter475
@Peanutbutter475 Год назад
Called a light
@brianscustomcanvas1911
@brianscustomcanvas1911 2 года назад
You guys could really mess with people 😁😵‍💫 arguing with right and wrong process and ultimately pointing out the right way. It would really get people's attention to pay attention.
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220
@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 2 года назад
Haha, we have had our fair share of messing with people over the years. Thanks for watching!
@jamesstockton3777
@jamesstockton3777 Год назад
Funny, all these young guys "one sticking" cause the 4 or 5 extra pounds they don't want to carry for safety.
@huntfishexplore7636
@huntfishexplore7636 Год назад
This is more safe, because you're roped up on a tether the entire time. Except when he passes a branch but I use a tether for that as well..
@ryanj2071
@ryanj2071 Год назад
Ooooh you're Rappelling. Not Repelling
@darkhorse6829
@darkhorse6829 Год назад
That stick is wasted space and weight... I just.ascend rope via mad rock belay, hand ascender and foot loop
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