ONE TAKE HOV OR ONE TAKE NOOOO??? YOUNG GURU DEBATES ONE TAKE DOESN'T MATTER IF THE RECORD IS TRASH 

That makes sense: Fiesta is 4 minutes 26 seconds Heart of the City is 3 minutes 44 seconds. AND Jay stops rappin at the 2:55 mark. It checks out.

nah recording a verse in one take is definitely impressive - the breath control required while trying to stay on beat, switch flows, maintain a cadence all without fumbling a single word is certainly a skill - i can barely text a voice note in one take never mind 16 bars 😂

The "one take thing" and "not writing it down" thing is impressive the same way we are impressed by great movie scenes that were ad libed and unscripted. It gives it a mystique of being from the ether. It doesn't take away from the body of work if it's not done in that format, but it adds to it if it is done in that format. This doesn't mean that it should be the standard. These are special moments and artists. Don't try to do this at home kids.

Math much respect to you because it takes discipline and skill to know when to just let your guest speak and when to chime in yourself...💪🏾

“Be Tim Duncan before you become Kobe.. they both have the same amount of rings!” -Meeca That’s was FIRE!!!!

Thats crazy. That's the description of a GIFT!!! Both for Jay AND for Just Blaze...

This is why I like Mecca there’s 1 of him in every barbershop. He’s not conceding to shit, and I love it 🤷🏾‍♂️😂

Mecc said re: Frankie Beverly & Maze's one-take: "AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HAVE" I'm dyiiiiing lol!

Yooo Guru gotta be my favorite interview from y’all so far!! Imagine if y’all get Jay Z one day. But Guru is a Legend! I always thought One Take Hov was a myth but after seeing so many people say this he gotta be one of the greatest

This is how you know you achieved legend status 'cause the HOV stories are getting more and more ridiculous.

They’re not dropping these fast enough for me and at this point I strongly feel Guru either needs his own podcast about hip hop or needs to be added to one of these shows.

Jay's process is just as impressive as his career. MATH delivering with these interviews!! No brakes keep going!!

These are my favorite Hov stories. Dude is truly gifted….

Somebody else said this in a comment but interviewing producers is one of the best things for Hip Hop because they are walking goldmines when it comes to having stories of rappers in their memory.

As a former rapper "lyrical exercise", (Jay-z's musical approach) is hard but I've done it. Composing a hot 16 with no pen is a true gift.

The number of takes a rapper need to nail a verse is actually relevant. It just shows mastery and speaks volumes to their ability to offer a compelling live performance.

i grew up on this hip hop.. my first tap i had was me against the world but after big and pac passed i dove into lyricism.. rocafella held the flag for me. from jay to state property so these stories are gold

Love hearing the producers get their stories off, Just Blaze & Guru on a podcast would be killer. Love the gem he dropped that Just made welcome to NY city on a keyboard, no samples. Ill fact that makes him a top 10 producer.

MATH NXGGA I LOVE YOU BRO! EVERY SINGLE CONVERSATION IS FULL OF SUBSTANCE! EVERY CONVERSATION!

The legendary Guru co-signing JID's album is all I needed to hear, I was already telling dudes it was fire but now you can't tell me nothing bout my boy

Amazing guest. Thanks Math. Always a pleasure to learn about the behind the scenes

I witnessed Math recording with no pen paper and no phone in booth. It was an honor. Salute to my brother 🙏🏾💯

What’s impressive is when you’re in the studio and you see it for yourself what a one take do especially if the words are pressed tight together and you know it’s hard to say clearly and you run the whole 16 bars correctly in one take

thank u gu for naming dudes cause ppl act like real rap ain't out here still and there is alot

Gotta agree with Mecca on this one. It's all an art. If someone paints a portrait upside down we're gonna be impressed with the process even if painting comes out the same.

Math got this game on lock right now.... Format, guests, perfect and well timed questions.... This dude is the truth...

It matters bc of a thing called intellectual curiosity. If more ppl had a grasp of this concept the world would be far better off than we are now.

I agree with in the fact that if I find out an MC or singer did a song in one take,it is impressive 💯

11:20 I see his point. It doesn't take away from someone who needs multiple takes. That's fine. But it's still impressive when someone doesn't need to. As an aside, Kerouac supposedly wrote On The Road in one sitting (out of his mind on uppers) at a typewriter.

@12:00 The reason a recorded one take rap is impressive, is because a lot of artist may miss pronounce a word, lost some breath control, forgot a line, punched in the second half of a verse because it didn’t sound as good as the first ,cause the energy of it fell off etc. these things aren’t at the for front of our minds, but when brought to our attention, knowing what it takes to write, come up with lyrics, remember it then spit it flawlessly? You dayum right. ITS F**king IMPRESSIVE! And deserves respect. Nothing further your honor.

I love how guru knows all the aspects of the art. He’s even spitting the now and the up and coming artist. That’s a head. If you only know what’s popular you can’t just in a hip hop debate and get taken seriously.

Its impressive... it matters... theres levels... thats all... no one is saying its wack cause you did revision... but its very impressive when one can do it in one take... its not hard to understand, shouldn't be a debate... great show as usual

Please stop teasing me with these short videos. I need the whole joint... I love Guru!!!!!!! This is great !!

It’s because what Jay does, very few people can do it. Also everyone that is part of the culture knows the difficulty of doing that. It’s impressive. It’s like when you see a nine year old that can play the piano classically.

of course doing it in "one take" doesn't matter. I don't expect anybody to do that, but I am impressed when someone does and it comes out being a fire song or verse. That just shows that the artist was feeling it and in the zone on that track.

As a an artist it really doesnt matter what method you use the consumer only gets the finished product...I have done both one takes and punch ins

That line about "developing the Fundamental's like Tim Duncan before you try to be Kobe, they both have 5 rings" is some deep philosophical REAL shit!! When word got out about Jay NOT writing & then they showed it in the Fade to Black movie, I remember almost every MC/Rapper even known star's started saying they'd stopped writing! Everyone CAN'T do it & those that try barely create Dope music!!!🤦🏽‍♂🤷🏽‍♂🤴🏽✌

Math Hoffa really found his lane doing podcasting. All these podcasts have been 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯

I heard that same story at the time from his engineer Doug Wilson. It was an R Kelly video. I heard that weekend was insane,

I get what mecca was saying . He basically saying It's like the dunk contest. A one attempt successful dunk (one take) is more impressive than 10 attempts dunk (punch in) The dunk with 10 attempts may still get a 10 , but the the dunk with 1 attempt that gets a 10 makes you feel more impressed

Personally I never understood why a fan would care how many takes a sound is done in. All that truly matters to me is the final project.🤷🏾‍♂️

Thanks Math for bringing our favorites on because some never got to hear their story. If they said it back then, more people would be alert and willing to get the music! Salute

I think from a listener perspective it doesn't matter, but from an MC perspective it does. In terms of debating who's a better rapper, I think one should absolutely get kudos for being able to execute their performance in one take.

A really cool and light hearted debate, loved it.

I'm with him...that shits impressive and because it's impressive, it means something.

“Fiesta” is the video. It is in DECODED book.

It doesn't matter if they did the verse in one take if the verse is wack!! 💯💯💯

I like how math lets the conversation flow then he’ll interject

It was a bit upsetting hearing them try to knock his point about being impressed on something being done in one take he never knocked people who don't do it in one take its just incredible if it is imagine you see somebody collect every fruit in pacman in one try compared to someone pausing their game or trying multiple times its cool no matter how long it takes but imagine in one take that's all he was saying

I will say, as a person who does music myself, it is extremely difficult to do 1 take. It's not as easy as it sounds. Especially if you're doing technical raps and going in and out of pockets a lot. Not to mention breath control and the other small nuances. Which is what makes the 1 take thing very very impressive. With that said, I'm with Guru on this one. As long as the finished product is 🔥 and it's what you envisioned then you've done your job. Infact my engineer even said that he wishes more of the rappers that come to him would punch in sometimes because sometimes their work isn't as good. They sacrifice on the quality just to say that they did it in 1 take or just so they squeeze in as many songs as they could in the alloted time frame they have. As for me personally I've never been able to do 1 take because I'm such a perfectionist and focus too much on the smallest of details. If I pronounce something even slightly off I gotta redo it. I was not blessed with the ability to just go in 1 take and then everything still sounds immaculate. I gotta do a bunch of punches. 🤣 Let's just say my engineer is a super patient guy. 😅 By the way can't wait for the full episode. 🙌🏽

Math out this world already with this extraterrestrial podcast #MYEXPERTOPINION

A person winning a million dollars is amazing! But if someone made a million dollars from the ground up now that’s impressive! One isn’t better than the other but one is more impressive and interesting.

I hate when people act like they can't see where you're coming from. if Jay dropped that God did verse with just stepping to the mic and spitting... that makes it even more legendary

Glad they called Guru out. I definitely don’t believe dude laid verses for a whole track while a video was still playing once completed. FOH Also- the one take process is highly overrated. It’s impressive: but in the long run- it doesn’t have a direct impact on how great a song is. It’s one of those afterthought types of medals on your chest (provided the finished product is dope).

Jay has said in many interviews why he doesn't need to write his rhymes down if you listened to him... "Its like a lyrical exercise"

You know how I know they be capping for Jay? Because of the black album movie Hov was in the studio punching in. You mean to tell me that a man with this gift to do a song straight through has never put it on camera? The only camera footage we have of him from a documentary is him punching in? 🤣

'Practice, practice, never re-enact this.' Jay Z's rhymes at 19 years old back when he was spitting fast. So when you slow it down it naturally becomes easier. He also stated how he had to compile rhymes on the go as he had no pen n paper whilst out and about. Essentially, if you put your mind to it, you'll see what you can come up with too. Perspective.. This is what Young Guru was explaining that flew over many heads. People forget Lil Wayne also inspired the spitting with no pen when he dropped, 'A Milli.' Especially down south.

It’s called step writing i believe Hov and Wayne kinda took this to a whole nother level…it’s very constructive in a flowey way a lot of it is memory muscle but you still gotta be a pretty damn good rapper to tie it all together 🫡

The Blueprint is a blueprint

Yo, I'm new to this jawn. This is my new favorite podcast. Loving these conversations.

It took me a month to write maybe 24 bars on time for a specific song I was sittin on...and one day at random it was time to spit it...I didnt have my book n smoked it in one take no punches...Niggaz looked at me like was a martian after that lmao Now this makes more sense to me

I stumbled on this and this is a really reaaaaally good pod.

YOOO DOT DEMO IS A LEGEND!!! HE USED TO GET LITE BUT NOE HES A BEAST ON THE MICROPHONE

Math has the best interviews with so many different of the questions real fans always wanted to know from stories we heard

The secret they don't know about jay is he wrote that shit before he came to the studio lmao

The discussion was going good until they talked about recording in 1 line. The fact that they got amped up for Mecc saying he's impressed is dumb. Basically, he said "I'm impressed". He didn't say "You all need to be as impressed as I am". YET, Everyone in the room is mad because he's choosing to be impressed. It's understandable that in the final product, it doesn't matter if Jay did it in one take or if he was sitting on a bar stool while cleaning his ears out with a Q-tip while wearing micky mouse hat. IF Mecc says that impresses him, then it impresses him. Simple. People get impressed all the damn time that Jay composes his lyrics in his head...so the hell what. It's cool but people still think Nas is better, who is a heavy writer. BUT, if Jay impresses you, then cool, there are people that are there for that, let them enjoy that. It's like, we have to accept things that aren't worth accepting but then those same people get mad at people for liking things that aren't the common topics to speak about. That's super hypocritical.

Got 3 great interviews running concurrently like a jail sentence lol... keep it up Math!

ITS CONVERSATIONS LIKE THESE THAT GIVE ME THAT REAL NY HIP HOP FEEL. THIS THE SHIT THAT CAME WIT THE BARS. THIS WAS THE BEHIND THE SCENES TALK IN EVERY HOOD….AND THE WAY THEY PERFORMED ON BEATS WAS LIKE GAMEDAY. RT

Jay z is a warlock he be pausing time No 🧢

“BE TIM DUNCAN BEFORE YOU COULD BE KOBE-THEY BOTH STILL HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF RINGS.” JEWELRY.

But Mecca is right that it’s impressive which is the point it’s not about trying to 1 take it and sounding out of breathe or even rushed it’s about taking time and creating the best final product

It’s almost like movies as well they go to a vocal recording studio and record audio after shooting the footage which will then be engineered together. When we hatch films the audio we hear has been done separately no acting just the lines this enables them to be precise with emphasis and feeling etc for the final product to be it’s best when released to the rest of the world in stores for viewers and listeners who have no idea what goes on behind the creative side

This conversation really reminded me of being in the shop wit my brother 🤣🤣🤣 Felt like I was in the there...CTFU I knew it was getting good once mofo's start defending their lies (IT'S THEIR TRUTH😏) and then somebody gotta ALWAYS be RIGHT(😒) then the few dat jus not buying NONE OF DAT SHIT (😑) Oh I used to love going wit my bro to the shop🎯 #nextclip

They not thinking....he did 3 versus one take. He didn't listen to the hook in between versus they thinkin about the length of the finished song not the versus 1,2,3 and out

That's who Wayne learned how to do that shit from Jay-Z da 🐐

This should be another classic hip hop episode. Waiting for the whole ep. To drop.you brothers are on fire. Respect.

Guru Stop the Cap bruh !!! 🤔 Fiesta video is 4 Mins & 30 Seconds. It takes longer to record 3 verses in studio🎯then leave & come back 🤔Stop the BS bruh !!!

I love it when you guys can just politic and converse about this rap game with the love for it is so awesome

I understand what Mecca is trying to say. If an artist can record a song in one take it adds to their capabilities as an artist plus the song they record is a classic. Edit Sing to Song

Show is Brilliant man‼️Keep up the fantastic work fellas

That shit checks out! ✅ Jay's hat is right in the beginning of the Fiesta video, I started playing Heart of the City about 30 sec in and Jay was done with about 25 sec left in Fiesta. 🤯

Love the fact that Young Guru spoke on Amiri Baraka, it was a pleasure to see him perform live man!

Anything Roc-A-Fella related will always get my view, like and favorited list. 💪🏾‼️💯

One of the best RU-vid shows. Hands down. Keep doing what y'all doing Brothers

"ONE take Hovvv, I'm REAL at this RAPPIN!"

We get (or have gotten) hung up on arbitrary stats and feats that don’t matter to the end product. One take vs. punching in, production hardware vs. software, using a mixing board vs. mixing with plug-ins. All things that 99% of music listeners couldn’t hold a 45 second convo with you about.

Hov one take is impressive, but not needed. It's the fact of how heavy he kicking, with intent and meaning. It's a lay up to him, crazy to us but it's appreciated.

Take these flowers my brother Math. Great guest great convo great interview. LONDON

I see you Guru....SHOUT OUT TO NEWARK, NEW JERSEY... ESSEX COUNTY STAND UP!

These stories never get old....

MATH! KEEP IT GOING BRO!

~Im back from online grindin yall....just graspin gems...& Jewels here and there.....I always knew the Internet was gon be the wave of the future...thanks person who made the Internet...you're the best...I appreciate it...LOLOLOL....aye, yo.....Yall got the Legend Guru up there....a DMV-native...LOLOLOL...Respect to Guru....he remind Me of one of my ole heads from a neighborhood over from my neighborhood.....who always used to debate why JayZ used to drop so many Gems...in his raps.......everytime I used to go over to the next door neighborhood to play outside...he was debatin Rap...LOLOLOL....if I make it...Imma go find my older cousin that look like 50 & Kevin Hart and he got the same birthday as them or its in the same week or somethin..lol...to introduce him to the Legendary Rap-OG 50.....LOLOLOL...and Imma go find the dude who I always use to hear as a kid defend JayZ lyrics wit my other ole head from that neighborhood....and introduce him to JayZ....he defend the Legendary Rap-OG JayZ just like the A&R-Legend Guru do...LOLOLOL ......I thought Guru was JayZ lil brother or, cousin or relative....at first...cuz I would hear them acknowledge each other, on seperate occassions....cuz JayZ just dont mention people like that, without a reason....so I was thinkin, they gotta be related....or he part of his business crew....LOLOLOL....that ole head im talkin bout was breakin JayZ lyrics down like he knew him....cuz he was breakin them lyrics down perfectly, like Hov told him or somethin....LOLOL...Imma find him...cuz everybody think im lyin and sh@#.....LOLOLOLOL....I know Imma Pisces ...but not all Pisces lie....LOLOLOLOL....Im part of the Pisces group that tell it Real...even tho I dont believe in the Zodiac 100%...LOLOLOL...But i think it got some truth to it....but when I speak on it, I only speak on it like a Sport-Analyst...LOLOLOLOL.....Great Content....Big Battle Rap-OG Legend Math, sir...LOL...Salute Battle-Rap-Veteran-General, sir....LOLOLOLOL......1LOVE

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HOV aint makin that shit up off top…he writes ALOT- he just memorizes lines to subject matter.

" Be Tim Duncan Before You Turn Into Kobe, Because They Both Got The Same Amount Of Rings" 🤯

It definitely happens with everything Man. People tried to recreating ILLmatic, by getting a bunch of different super producers to do a bunch of different things and it never sounded cohesive like that. What they didn’t realize is all those guys were still collaborating on elevating NAS. It’s not just a bunch of different records that they picked off a Tape and slapped together.

Jay is The Muhammad Ali of rap. I'm so fast that last night I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark. HOV 🙌🏾 💎

He said heart of the city wowww another classic

This one of them ones... I ain't watching clips. I gotta watch this in it's entirety but can't stop watching.

I love these conversations 🤘🏾👑