while i always liked the feature existing, i have set the slider on all my 3 oneplus phones so far to silent right after unboxing and never touched it again. not once, sooo.. while it used to be "a oneplus thing" its not a feature for everyone. but i agree that oneplus is basically oppo now since pete left. nothingphone looks really promising
I feel like it's cool what OnePlus is offering with the 10T, it is about in line with other manufacturers. However I don't see any reason to use a OnePlus over another phone, without OxygenOs or an alert slider
lack of OxygenOS is indeed a big one. being close to stock was always a core point in favor of oneplus. dont care about the slider though. with a case on, you can barely reach it anyway
@@mondvogel6124 it wasn't just close to stock, imo it was also better than stock, it had a few more features than stock without any bloat and tbh felt snappier than stock somehow
I agree. OxygenOS and the alert slider are my two favourite features on the 7T Pro I'm using. Without them there's no reason for me to get another OP phone over a different brand.
The pricing on this is good considering it has a great chip, fast charging, and big battery. But, like you, I don't think it's worth buying considering what's lacking. I could've lived with the lack of wireless charging and slightly worse cameras (that ultrawide was really bad) but the alert slider and OxygenOS are key traits of OnePlus phones.
@Bidusha Mandal I miss my OnePlus 7 Pro so much, best phone I ever owned. Had to replace it a few months ago, battery started dying and no shops around me had OnePlus parts.
@@Red.exe7 as much as I appreciate the option of a headphone jack, I almost never used it. Still would rather have it for those rare times, than not...
I have one too. Debating on whether I'll get a new screen to replace the current one (which is just slightly cracked on the top, still usable) or just upgrade to Pixel because the camera quality has become more important to me.
going from curved screen to flat screen is an improvement to me. A curved screen is like the notch, it's purely for aesthetics and actually is a step back in the functionality of the device. The ideal form of a display is a flat, uninterrupted rectangle that has nothing to obscure parts of it (like a notch) or distort parts of it (like screen curves)
I think Dave makes a point here in OnePlus "trying" to reconnect to their roots by giving the ppl value for money with this 10t. Like he said, we get great specs with a flagship soc in a cheaper price range. But I think a lot of oneplus's value came from the software more than hardware. Ppl loved OnePlus before because it wasn't buggy and ran a clean oxygen OS. That combined with the alert slider, flagship specs, and not wasting money on fringe features was what made OnePlus OnePlus. Like he said, I can appreciate what they're doing here besides the decision with the alert slider (I HATE that). But OnePlus will never be OnePlus as long as the software experience isn't what it once was.
With the exception of the alert slider, I feel like all the features OP cut to hit $649 were smart. I don't use wireless charging. I barely ever use my 9 Pro or S22's (work phone) telephoto cameras because they're so inferior to the main sensors. Zoom isn't worth the detail and color loss. I hate curved screens because finding a good tempered glass protector is impossible. 1440p is largely pointless on a smartphone. I will die on this hill. I'd rather have a plastic frame than metal if it means improved signal reliability and structural integrity. Metal is nice, but the antenna cutouts basically erase any benefit to build strength. I'm actually tempted to trade in my 9 Pro for the 10T and just use that for the next 3-4 years. It'd only cost me $250 to get a 256/16GB phone and then I can check back in on the smartphone scene when something really impressive happens again.
The hill that I'll die on is that wireless charging is stupid. It's slow, worse for your battery, isn't truly wireless, and makes it difficult to use your phone while charging. I don't buy added convenience, I've owned phones with wireless charging before and tried it out, but always ended up plugging my phone in because I'm not lazy. And with superfast charging like Supervooc, it makes wireless charging even more pointless.
Im in the exact same boat! I have a base 9 and can get that traded in for updated support and a faster phone. Its super nice. Its simple and keeps to the root of stuff that works. Only reason I traded in or changed any phones before were because of actual issues that made them not work well.
OnePlus had this enthusiast vibe till 2019 (OnePlus 7 series). It felt like they were really trying to bring the best they can to their customers. Now, it looks like they pissed in curd and selling it as buttermilk....
imo the OP 8 & 9 were good phones that kept at least a little bit of the OnePlus identity. But I think the Nothing company will carry the torch going forward
I'm still using the oneplus 7 pro after more than 3 years. It's still works excellent and I haven't seen in this time any phone that made me think about upgrading. Yes, there are a little improvements in camera quality or chips but nothing to crazy Update: I ordered yesterday the new pixel 7 pro. It has the same name so I hope I won't be disappointed lol. I will receive it on Monday and I will keep updating my experience with you update 2: after using the new pixel 7 pro for about a month I have a few notes to share. camera quality - much better than the Oneplus. it's a significant update compared to that phone. it snaps a photo very quick and very good. video quality is unmatched. I've been in Iron Meiden's concert and shoot videos in 5-12X zoom and it was excellent quality. selfie camera also much better! you can shoot in either 1X or 0.7X for group selfies. performance - excellent so far. it's snappy and very battery efficient. it comes out of the box in 1080p so the first thing I did was to change it to 2K and turn on always on display. I feel like it does a good job of switching between apps, displaying notifications and overall battery management. * There are some really nice google features that I adore: 1. Magic Eraser - In 80% of the times it works awesome (after you've taken a photo and the system noticed there are some people in the background, it prompts an option to erase them and it usually does it fantastic, my friends were blown away). 2. Apps suggestions - this feature is just AMAZING. basically you have 8 apps that always change based on your use and the time of the day. 4 icons on the bottom of your home screen and 4 icons on the top of your app drawer. I don't know how they did it so good, but after about 2 weeks it learns your behavior and displays exactly the apps you thought on checking at any moment. 3. songs recognition - it works excellent with English songs but sometime struggles with foreign languages. It creates a list of songs you listened to so you can scroll through it whenever you want. there are more cool features but those ones I really like!!! charging - In that department there are some pros and some cons. the pros is that it can last easily a full day and you can charge it wirelessly which is very convenient, especially if you buy the pixel stand. the con is that it charges pretty slow, much slower than the Oneplus, so if you do find yourself on a low battery you can get a little bit frustrated. overall thoughts - I'm not regretting this upgrade, I think it's a great option for anyone thinking about buying a new smartphone. It has minor problems like the hole punch comparing to the whole screen experience on the Oneplus 7 pro and slower wired charging, but you get so many upgrades with it that you forget the cons.
BBK will not do what OP used to do anymore, that soul left the building years ago. At some point you're going to consider upgrading the phone lol (obvs not to the op 10T)
No joke, one of the reasons why I'd pick another oneplus after my Nord is the slider. It may sound stupid, but it's far more useful to me than a great camera system. If there's no slider it's like any other phone to me and I can just look for a mid range motorola, which has real stock android rather than the oppo thing they're trying to fool us into now
True but Motorala is notoriously bad with software support. They have the worst update commitment in the industry, and OP still beats them in bang for buck.
I know, you're telling me. When I switched from my OnePlus X to the Moto X4. I really missed the alert slider. I am so glad to have back with my current OnePlus Nord (1st gen), but if this is the direction OnePlus is heading, I'll be looking at another manufacturer. Also not keen on them merging Oxygen OS with Color OS.
The first time I hear a reviewer mention that the room climate is important for extreme fast charging - its the first time I hear this and it just makes sense :D I was wondering sometimes why the phones do not hit their advitised speeds - I mean sure a lot of it will just be the manufacturer straightup lying but in this case MKBHD said in this video that he actually gets the 20 minute charging - so yeah I guess it really comes down to room temperature in this case - very interesing :)
Apparently the speed of the charging depends on the country's plug output. Like from US where its 110v, it charges upto 125 watts, and where its 220v, it charges upto 160 watts.
@@sudeeproy7829 I am a techy guy - heck I even have my own tech channel - and yeah sure I know that room temperature can influence any number of performance metrics - the point is when it comes to this extremly fast charging I just never thought of it and hadn't made the connection between both pieces of knowledge yet
Was Dave keeping his screen on while charging tho? In the past I noticed some kernels would reduce the wattage when the screen is on to prevent overheating (although here it shouldn’t technically do that because all the heating should happen in the brick)
OP 7 Pro is still the best phone OnePlus has ever made. Until they make a phone as competitive and unique as that, they just aren't worth considering imo
Honestly why though I own the s22 ultra and the iPhone 13 but OnePlus still makes great phones what's wrong with their phones now than 4 years ago when everybody was praising them when their phones weren't as good as Samsung and LG which by the way all these RU-vidrs ran out of business LG regularly made ultimate flagship phones with the v line and these RU-vidrs for some reason decided they wanted to bash them every year and say well they're just trying to copy Samsung blah blah blah and they did the same thing to HTC who was the Titan of the smartphone world at one time literally made the best smartphones out but they got ran into the ground because one time they did something wrong with the speakers and all the RU-vidrs turned on them the same way they've turned on one plus it doesn't make sense these are clearly the best OnePlus phones ever made but everybody's running them in the ground yet when they made cheap phones that had a lot of specs everybody loved them
Yeah, somehow this often gets overlooked, but OxygenOS was a BIG selling point for OnePlus and literally one of the only reasons to get a OnePlus phone over a competitors (Especially since they raised prices, they are no longer "flagship killers" but rather flagship devices themselve). But OxygenOS is dead now. ColorOS is the way going forward and it's inferior to Oxygen imo and many feel like that. It's against the essence of OnePlus and I honestly don't see a place for them anymore. I will rock my OnePlus 8 Pro until it dies or gets unusable, though OnePlus is on the path to achieve that. Every update introduces more bugs and more sloppy Oxygen to Color OS transformation, it's sad. So it will be my last OnePlus phone. Honestly, there is literally no point for OnePlus anymore with their software turning to sh*t. Hardwarewise they were always inferior but at least cheaper than their competitors. That is also no longer the case, so why would anyone still buy a OnePlus device?
I was interested until you said about the lack of alert slider. Like you, that was one of the best unique features of OnePlus phones. No alert slider, no purchase from me.
Thanks for the detailed review, I got the 10T 2 days ago; its performance is excellent and the camera is good! I love the smooth display and I play COD which doesn't make the phone heat up so the cooling system is working fine. The back of the phone has texture on it and it attracts more dust so I'll just cover it with skins from Gadgetshieldz and I don't have to worry about scratches and dust!👍
@@ryanpellegrini I think you should go ahead and buy one. This particular phone is good - it's just that hardcore fans are crying because OnePlus was never really on their side and their whole "never settle" ploy was just marketing to sell more phones (shocked pickachu face ). Get a phone that's a good fit for you and works well - not because you think the huge company behind it cares about you.
U may not believe... I m still rocking my OP5, since 2017... Still feels great(except frame drops while gaming, smaller screen, weaker battery)... Alert Slider is what i love about my phone
It's so natural for me to have the alert slider that I thought all the newer flagships have it nowadays. I started googling and only OP, a single vivo phone and Apple has some simplified version of it.
0:25 to be fair, the price of almost everything has been going up steadily. Apple and Samsung are more so to blame when they came out with phones with crazy prices, and many other brands followed suit with price increments too.
Apple is kinda the least to blame here because Apple is literally the only one that hasn't increased the pricing of their phones in over 4 years - since 2017.
To be fair samsung and apple have been doing this since day 1. OnePlus was supposed to be the outlier.. their whole thing is to be better. They *chose* to do the same thing
@@Raja995mh33 They've always been pretty expensive. And i can't rmb which model, but i think it was starting from 11 or 12, they had quite a bump in price too. Then Samsung and the rest slowly but surely followed suit.
@@corny17 Samsung Never "followed" Apple in terms of pricing. They were always on the exact same level or even were faster. And raised the pricing higher than Apple - especially with their Ultra line. And yes, from the 11 to 12 it got more expensive but only after the 11 was cheaper than the XR.
This isn't a replacement for the 10 Pro. Rather, it is a OnePlus 10R with snapdragon SoC and jacked up price. OnePlus used to stand out because of their great hardware that was coupled with superfast software experience. But now, they are just another generic brand that hype gimmicky features.
Same here, I will just need to replace the battery soon because it's getting a bit annoying to charge it twice a day. It'll be probably fast enough for another 4 years. And the alert slider is something I really like. I feel like the best days of 1+ ended around the 6/6T, most likely I won't get another 1+.
Same here, I have used one plus 6 for 4 years, man it was perfect phone had headphone jack, oxygen OS all of them were great. Right now I am using one plus 9rt oxygen OS based on colourOs is pathetic to use latest oxygen OS is a joke.
Been using OP 3T since 2017, it hitches a lot nowadays so I am looking for a new phone. Will not choose OP primarily because of degraded software experience. No alert slider?? Final nail in the coffin.
One Plus 7 Pro day 1 user so it's been 3 years but my phone doesn't remind me of that any day Still works snappy and seamlessly Honestly I really don't know what to choose as my next driver Everything is either overpriced or filled with cliches that is just really not that entising to an average Joe like me The full screen display and the comfort of 90HZ which doesn't milk battery as much as 120hz but still a massive improvement over 90hz is just perfect in every way Camera is mediocre but hey it works above average and I don't influence or shit Im thinking of atleast another year and then change to something else that can get a hold of me as OP did when I first used the phone Most of what I wanna do for productivity, i do it with my laptop which I've tuned it to for easing up my daily routines
I am in the exact same spot! Have a 7pro for 3y now, has a cracked screen and the battery is getting tired, I bought 3 or 4 phones, including the 9pro, iphone 13 and others, and returned them since my 7pro was just better even with problems. Was sold on this 10T until he mentions no slider to mute the phone, that was honestly one of the reasons why I returned some of the other phones. I am hopeful for the pixel 7 in October.
Same exact thing for me. OnePlus 7t working perfectly still. Hit the peak of smartphone tech. Everything is about those gimmicky extra features now. Just give me a damn good phone with no corners cut anywhere at a price that isn't astronomical 😂. I got my 7t for under $500 with a student discount back in 2019. 1080p oled is all you ever need in a phone. You want 4k? Get a TV. Influencer BS, most videos, photos, etc get dropped down to typical phone resolutions or lower on social media platforms anyway lol.
@@JQ_Unity hahaha EXACTLY. Never understand why you would need 4K or OLED on a smartphone when most average users are looking at just Instagram, tik toks.. these aren't masterpiece movies. Hate it when there are BASIC B*TCH consumers complaining about not having wireless charging when clearly it is an inferior technology to quick charging. If only the market stop demanding for faster performance chip when clearly most don't maximize the usage.. we might never be in this position of paying close to a kidney for a phone
Getting lower temps with a case on is pretty notable. Most cases just cause temp increases. So while it may not make a noticeable improvement in performance, not making a noticeable reduction in performance is pretty good.
I think the cooling case may have worked better if the phone had glass or metal back. I assume it is made of plastic which doesn't transfer heat very well
Great review. I wonder why you didn't mention their new next generation 3D cooling system with larger vapor chamber? Or there was no big effect on Snap Socs?
You are smoothly bringing a whole new style to your videos and I'm all for it. The shots, editing & your energy together form an amazing combo! Keep it up Dave. We love you!💎🔥
I have the oneplus 7 and it's been solid, I really don't see the point in upgrading, especially now since they removed the alert slider which imo is much more useful than a great camera setup.
@@lau4893 I'm not talking about that but u will get a zippier performance every app will open faster and webpages open faster. And u get better efficiency. It's like upgrading ur computer u think ur old one is good enough until u get the new one
@@dante19890 I'm sure a new one is better, but I just don't see the point in upgrading, my phone is more of a tool than a gadget so I don't really mind not having the best there is, as long as it works without issues or slowdowns
@@lau4893 if u don't care about the performance I'm quite surprised why u even bought a flagship phone in the first place seems like a midrange phone would suit u well enough
An awful lot of additional compromising for a company I am already compromising for- I'm not sure what the justification is on the slider, nor on keeping 4 cameras instead of reducing down for a cheaper product, if that was their goal to begin with
Still using a 7T Pro with no plans to upgrade, works just fine and can still run just about anything. I can't see myself going from a screen with no punchole to a screen with a punchole. The motorized camera has been great; even after using face unlock all this time and not being overly gentle with it, it still works. I prefer the privacy of knowing the camera is physically unable to see me yknow? Great vid as always!
Perfect phone meets all my needs. I pre ordered one. I've never had a oneplus phone before so I don't mind that they removed the alert slider. The main camera pictures look good enough to me. I don't take pictures much anyways. The performance and fast charging is what I want.
Lo mismo yo, estoy esperando por el mío, no me importa el alert slider aunque tengo un oneplus 8t y jamás usé el alert slider, tampoco me importa que sea de plástico por la parte de atrás ya que uso siempre la funda.
Glad I watched this as I almost pre ordered the 10T, currently have an 8T, is the camera on 10T worse than 8T? Think I may wait for Zenfone 9 but have some concern on just 2 yrs updates. Hoping available soon, was wondering if the 8 is worth it...
It's an amazing phone, for an awesome price. The only issue with it is the lack of alert slider. But quite honestly, the OnePlus 10 Pro is the better deal.
I would pay more for flat screen.. completely useless gimmick that causes 1. Unwanted touch triggers 2. cracks on corner falls 3. Smudges on the corners 4. Unnecessarily slippery feel 5. Probably ends with with smaller battery
Not a lot of thoughts on the device itself. Except that I am sad about the alert sider being gone. However, Dave, this is the first time I am commenting on a tech video. The quality of this video just blew me away. Absolutely loved the graphics, the transitions. Thank you for producing this!
Ever since Oneplus 7pro I feel like Oneplus became a totally different company. Not the company I know and not the company they aim to be. Im not sure this company is worth mentioning anymore when everything this company was known for now is almost non existing. 🙃
They need to bring back the pop-up camera, truly full screen, private, and actually exceptionally durable and fast, with coding where if it senses it's falling it auto closes, they had this in the OnePlus 7 pro and 7t pro models and it would give oneplus an identity of its own since it's no longer the spec to dollar champion
They're pretty much a mixture of oppo and realme now and they have settled in every possible aspect will certainly not recommend OnePlus to anyone instead it's better to go with pixel or Xiaomi
The best SoC built round an otherwise mid range phone did mean something back when phones needed all the processing power they could get. Now mid range chips are powerful enough to provide a great experience. ‘Nothings’ phone one provides a better balance of compromises on a budget for 2022 than this 10T.
The greatest W here is the centering of the selfie camera....THANK GOD. Ever since I had the S10E and the rumors about the future OnePlus devices was coming out I was dying for them to center the hole punch because it just looks cleaner and doesn't screw with letterboxed videos and now it's finally here omg. It just looks so much better being aligned in the center.
@@realsleepi Nah man it's so annoying in the corner. It doesn't line up with the rest of the phone at all. It's like every time I would go to look at my S10e and it was sitting in the corner it would drive me crazy.
About the glacier mat case: You should've tested this against a normal TPU case or something because that should block heat from dissipating. Would be interesting to see the three scenarios even though I doubt there is any significant benefit.
@@sibis4608 After 4:50 there’s no value addition to the video. From 4:30 to 5:30 over-explanation on alert slider. Later on spending too much time explaining the cover. Though the last thirty seconds of a debrief were still good, there’s still around 3 minutes of irrelevant explanation in an 8 minute video. That is around 30%. Not expected of Dave. Must say it’s still better than all the crap unboxing videos out there. But once you reach a level (like Dave has), perfection is expected from you; not desired.
Everytime I see a new OnePlus phone come out I am left with the same feeling. I'm just happy with my OnePlus 7 pro, in my eyes a near perfect phone. Only needs better cameras. If the phone I have now breaks, I'm just getting the same one.
It is not bad actually if you're looking for a powerful device with decent camera. However long time OnePlus fans will know how much they have settled and became the sole thing they swore to destroy - a generic flagship smartphone.
I am bummed by lack of wireless charging. I don't use it frequently at all but alot of devices have it. The alert slider is my second qualm. Camera is maybe third. I wonder if it's time for me to move to Samsung, Pixel, or 10 Pro.
Yeah that's the only issue I have with them too, but again, if you buy their phones from the midrange even you know you're not gonna use it for more than 2-3 years. So yeah they're kinda good i guess
I am rocking a 7pro and was sold on this 10T until you said there is not mute slider. Will wait for the pixel 7 as planed. Darn it, I had hope for a minute there...
Only OnePlus fanboy. Personnally i don't are. I like chip and overall specs. It's a midrange smartphone in camera thing with the new best snapdragon chip.
Same thing done by its sister concern iqoo/vivo. Iqoo 9T launched a day before OP 10T and similarly priced. Iqoo 9T is also cheaper than iqoo 9 PRO but misses out on a few things when compared to 9PRO. 8bit FHD+ vs 10 bit 2K scree , OIS vs Gimbal in main camera, no wireless charging (not sure if present in PRO).
I think it's a winner in my opinion , just the storage space and the camera and cooling feature is a winner, I have the one plus 8 and it gets hot so I'm gonna trade it in for this one .
honestly check out the motorola edge 30 ultra, it's a more complete phone for similar pricing, I got mine for £674 and it has 50w wireless charging, 144hz, 125w fast charge, curved display, 200mp sensor etc, way more bang for the buck
Im glad they're going back to their roots. Honestly i prefer a flat display. Also most people who bought a oneplus didn't buy it for the camera anyway so the downgrade isn't that much a dealbraker. I wish they made the camera module look better tho and have an aluminium back. If they are able to get it all for less than 700 bucks oneplus is back in business
I've had the 6T, the 8 and i just ordered the 10t. Before the 6T, i was mainly rolling with the Nexus/Pixel line. I think phone reviews get too nitpicky these days. Dollar for dollar, even the worst OnePlus device is a far more high performance device than anything else in its weight class. I will miss my alert slider, but i suspect 125w charging will be worth the tradeoff.
I have both of these phones. I don’t understand the reaction to the mute switch. Everyone compares it to the switch on the iPhone. But the switch on the iP doesn’t mute everything and doesn’t have any control on haptics. Also, never having owned a android that you didn’t have to screw with volumes with the buttons ( volume rockers) or pull the up from the drop down or in settings. I’m not sure I understand the cult like reaction to the lack of a switch. Another thing I don’t get, and this is on android and iOS. The 120 hz fawning. I’ve used 120 and 60hz side by side and my eyes don’t see any difference. And honestly what others see can probably be duplicated with software. I just realized something. What OP did here is what I’ve been saying Apple needs to do. Apple has said for years, their hard sell is not a product, it’s their ecosystem, Apple TV, subscriptions etc. But to bring more people in to that ecosystem they have to get more people on to iPhones, iPads, Mac’s etc. the SE were hot device’s at first because they were iPhones at a low price. Well that is compared to the regular priced iPhones. All they needed to do is take those leftover parts from past years and put them in another product. And so they did. But now the SE, the base model ipad etc are all crawling up in price. Like Apple lost sight of the point behind having these products in the first place. OP made a lower priced phone with lots of hi ends stuff in it that was good enough for the masses. All the technofiles can take a long walk. I get so tired of hearing what trash a product is. Instead of what the product offers. They compare it to a phone that cost 400.00 dollars more. Rubbish. Having this phone in 512rom/16ram I can tell you it’s not up to par with my 13pro max. Learned a long time ago, just because a phone has a 40mp camera in it, doesn’t mean it takes better pics than one with a 10mp. Numbers mean nothing if the camera is crap, or you have a decent camera but the software is crap. There are only a couple people on YT that do reviews the right way. Y’all PLEASE!! Stop making your reviews about the product being a shit show. Tell us what is good about it and then let us decide. Years ago that is how it was done. It is why I started watching these reviews. But over time the whole thing has turned in to a outhouse and no toilet paper to wipe with. Sadly the most popular channels are the biggest offenders. The couple I’ve seen that were worth looking at were new or at least had small numbers.
I'm using the 7pro 5g, still didn't get android 11 update but it works just enough. When you said they removed the alert slider my feet became cold haha that's just scary. I use the slider regularly and now it's hard to use any phone without that
yeah, oppo had the same case thing for the find x5 series, since oneplus is "merged" with them, its basically the same case but with different colors and camera island...
I am using the 10T I love this phone he doesn't point out that the new cooling system in the phone keeps this phone cool. I game intensively and the phone never over heats.
