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OpenAI Warns China Developers About Access to AI Tools 

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@synthdream
@synthdream 3 месяца назад
Honestly really dumb move. I understand it, but nothing creates progress in other nation's LLMs like consumer frustration. Literally the censoring of chatgpt is how the chinese models have gotten good, and now they're pulling this on all devs in the country, lol. Not a good idea, but maybe it is idk. Recently openai hasn't been at their smartest, this is yet again another thing that will have consequences. Hope that chairman was worth it, maybe they should try bringing illya back.
@creative_cooper
@creative_cooper 3 месяца назад
Remember what happened after the US banned China from its space program? Yeah... you guys never learn 😂
@donttryitjohn364
@donttryitjohn364 3 месяца назад
They can build their own shit. Why should we let a hostile foreign entity piggyback off of us?
@JJ-fr2ki
@JJ-fr2ki 3 месяца назад
AI arms races constitute a deadly game, since competitors under pressure will skimp on safety. We need international agreements ASAP!
@mlnima
@mlnima 3 месяца назад
as a developer I assure you only the first 2-3 months of gpt 4 was really useful the current chat gpt is dumb and make you waste more time than thinking on your own XD
@jazzyjazzy903
@jazzyjazzy903 3 месяца назад
Then you don't know how to use LLM models like Chatgpt. Ig prompting is a skill then.
@denisblack9897
@denisblack9897 3 месяца назад
Totally agree! Its a waste of time 100% of the time, thinking for 5 seconds is always more fruitful than tinkering with these useless toys😅 If you find it useful, im sorry to break it to you, but you are useless.
@ChengliangPan
@ChengliangPan 3 месяца назад
OpenAI CLOSE AI service to China, How hypocritical and ironic
@jeremybiggs8413
@jeremybiggs8413 3 месяца назад
Not to worry, China stole all the tech before they pulled up the drawbridge
@qake2021
@qake2021 2 месяца назад
🤣🤣B$😝😝
@ChinaSocietyNews
@ChinaSocietyNews 3 месяца назад
This will only benefit those Chinese large model companies.
@yomajo
@yomajo 3 месяца назад
I would rather see shitty propaganda than good one.
@SoYappy
@SoYappy 3 месяца назад
Why would you need to access the foreign tools if the local ones are better?
@TheRealUsername
@TheRealUsername 3 месяца назад
For now the best model in Chinese Mandarin is GPT-4o following by Yi-Large (from a Chinese startup)
@blisphul8084
@blisphul8084 3 месяца назад
Qwen2 is also quite good in the open source world. I don't think they'll care when they're blocked. If anyone, the great firewall would strike before OpenAI does.
@AuthEarth
@AuthEarth 3 месяца назад
Yeah, this is real dark
@fariborzchitsazzadeh7538
@fariborzchitsazzadeh7538 3 месяца назад
stupid move...LLM is about computation power rather than just code. China, particularly Baidu will drop the price
@NicholasWilliams-kd3eb
@NicholasWilliams-kd3eb 3 месяца назад
The Open AI LLM might cause civil unrest in China because the LLM has embedded US state propaganda in it. Plus, China has a tendency to use tech to increase human rights abuses. It's better if China simply just develops their own LLMs.
@jly5828
@jly5828 3 месяца назад
Now USA is forcing China to develop AI industry in their own chinese way again, just let like Semiconductor & Software & Electric Car & Autonomous Driving Vehicle industry in China, but I do aspect this to come, not surprise to see this news.
@SoYappy
@SoYappy 3 месяца назад
Nobody stops them for developing them by using their own tools.
@TheRealUsername
@TheRealUsername 3 месяца назад
According to analysis from TSMC, by 2032 Chinese fabs will produce more semiconductors than TSMC... Thanks to US sanctions, they're making China even stronger.
@spy_on_the_web
@spy_on_the_web 3 месяца назад
​@@SoYappy Then why overcapacity issue? 😂
@SoYappy
@SoYappy 3 месяца назад
@@spy_on_the_web nobody has issue with over capacity, just keep the excess to yourself.
@spy_on_the_web
@spy_on_the_web 3 месяца назад
@@SoYappy Tell that to Tesla and Germany
@tliew3846
@tliew3846 3 месяца назад
open ai is afraid of Chinese competition.
@DC-qn4wz
@DC-qn4wz 3 месяца назад
Sigh... another propaganda from the true master of propaganda!
@francisco444
@francisco444 3 месяца назад
another anti-propaganda propaganda commenter
@DC-qn4wz
@DC-qn4wz 3 месяца назад
@@francisco444 Sigh... another unhappy propagandist!
@johnnyBrwn
@johnnyBrwn 3 месяца назад
There is no nefarious purpose. They don't want to compete with China.
@gamingbtc
@gamingbtc 3 месяца назад
100%. Any time the US starts to lose economically, they start a war.
@freeflowtrader
@freeflowtrader 3 месяца назад
Now next step, incorporating baidu ai into China iPhone or android. President of China slightly turns his head to some of his ccp members:”so you got your men in that part of baidu already? Good good.” “Make sure it’s not your nephew so if some bad press went down it wouldn’t be one of us.”
@Hoffice-e
@Hoffice-e 3 месяца назад
There is something important you musk know Rakmhsu and Aurak.
@raspas99
@raspas99 3 месяца назад
How were they trying to manipulate people with it? You're just saying that they do and they are and there are some bad actress but what are the examples? Sorry for not just taking your word for it
@jeevan88888
@jeevan88888 3 месяца назад
Interesting
@leonlee877
@leonlee877 2 месяца назад
And this is the start of war using AI
@ChuckSilva
@ChuckSilva 3 месяца назад
Excellent reporting! Thank you!❤
@VovelPunch
@VovelPunch 3 месяца назад
the title could have been written by a 5 year old
@Novan-brautHazard
@Novan-brautHazard 3 месяца назад
Baidu is cooking😁
@marcthomas9806
@marcthomas9806 3 месяца назад
Rip US and Rip openai if this really make this move
@hh0686
@hh0686 3 месяца назад
MSFT has been soaring FYI
@Lp-ze1tg
@Lp-ze1tg 3 месяца назад
I support blocking their access to A.I. I speak their language too.
@HappyP1ayer4444
@HappyP1ayer4444 3 месяца назад
As a programmer working in China, my only concern is whether I can still use vpn, through Hong Kong server to use chatgpt, because chatgpt help me way huge in designing program for my work. If openai really block all Chinese user of chatgpt, I can't imagine, how many programmer and postgraduate student will lose them mind, jesus😂
@ikonik6286
@ikonik6286 3 месяца назад
ask open ai if its corrupt and watch its not there to help i think its very pretentious
@jly5828
@jly5828 3 месяца назад
I have seen many Chinese AI LLM, no need to worry for them, China will develop AI in the Chinese Way
@supercurioTube
@supercurioTube 3 месяца назад
There are multiple of open weights LLMs which are great as coding assistant. In fact, DeepSeek-Coder-V2 is very good, both the Lite to run locally and full size as API. And it's one of the excellent Chinese LLMs, with Qwen2
@mayikx
@mayikx 3 месяца назад
Mmm you can go to stackoverflow or something like that. This is not a big deal.
@synthdream
@synthdream 3 месяца назад
Try using the other chinese models, they are pretty good now. Chatgpt is still the best, but only by a good 4 percent. The new Claude model and deep-seek work well too. A vpn should still work though.
@mariajiao4855
@mariajiao4855 3 месяца назад
Only US can use LLM to manipulate public opinions 😂
@jcy089
@jcy089 3 месяца назад
Disposable military drones don't require high end CPU's / GPU's for LLM's. It's all about large scale manufacturing, which China excels at. Cranking out 10K drones per day is doable for China. Is it possible for the U.S? 😉
@YeahNoTellTheTruth
@YeahNoTellTheTruth 3 месяца назад
Drone swarms were a thing 10 years ago, you must be new to this for you to ask this question. Even I saw the potential back then so I would be highly surprised if military experiments never took place on it. So to answer your question, if the US sees the need it will and can ramp up production. You must be mistaken when it comes to military capabilities.
@RM-xr8lq
@RM-xr8lq 3 месяца назад
openai doesn't know how vpns work 😂
@MrErick1160
@MrErick1160 3 месяца назад
We know from who this move comes from 😊 (hint: NSA)
@christiancrow
@christiancrow 3 месяца назад
100000% agree
@qake2021
@qake2021 2 месяца назад
👍👍👌🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳👌👏👏
@qake2021
@qake2021 2 месяца назад
👌👍🇧🇷🇷🇺🇮🇳🇨🇳🇿🇦➕️👍
@lianghao7128
@lianghao7128 3 месяца назад
Nothing new.
@albertsitoe7340
@albertsitoe7340 3 месяца назад
CIA already making moves at OpenAI
@swedgephd
@swedgephd 3 месяца назад
OpenAI leadership is pretty sinophobic
@Gears906
@Gears906 3 месяца назад
China retaliate by reduce 80% of outgoing VPN services 😔
@asadaden
@asadaden 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂
@tvm73827
@tvm73827 3 месяца назад
While it is truly impressive what China has achieve in 20 years, the fact that this happened with the full cooperation of the Western world in general and the US in particular should not be denied. It will be entirely a different matter when the US and it's allies go all out to deny China the technology it needs to continue to grow and excel. We'll know in 20 years how and if China continues to be an aspiring super power.
@creative_cooper
@creative_cooper 3 месяца назад
On the contrary, the greedy capitalist in the US needed cheap labour to increase their profit margins, so they turned to China. It wasn't any cooperation but rather an elaborate plan to exploit Chinese cheap labour. They just did not imagine the Chinese growth in last 25 years. Now they are all panicking 😂
@Tofu3435
@Tofu3435 3 месяца назад
Probably 90+% are common people, who just using the global internet.
@ahsanmohammed1
@ahsanmohammed1 3 месяца назад
NSA
@tvm73827
@tvm73827 3 месяца назад
That’s the end of Chinese AI development. They have lost access to the best large language model in the world (currently). They have to make do with B grade models now.
@kotaku46
@kotaku46 3 месяца назад
This will help them to build their own LLM model. Just like TikTok
@JayYu-lr4ro
@JayYu-lr4ro 3 месяца назад
LOL! Did you miss the news that OpenAI’s GPT-4o is the B model after Claude 3.5 came out?
@MS-wz9jm
@MS-wz9jm 3 месяца назад
Americans are so dumb
@tvm73827
@tvm73827 3 месяца назад
@@kotaku46 Not without out access to the H100 which is banned for export to China. Have you not heard what Dr. Kai-Fu Lee has said. China can only build small, low-powered models and mostly relies upon American open-source models which are likely to become inaccessible once the elections is over
@tvm73827
@tvm73827 3 месяца назад
@@JayYu-lr4ro Unless you are smarter than Dr. Kai-Fu Lee you are incorrect. He has said that the best model in the world is GPT4 and soon GPT5 which China was accessing via APIs. Now they have been turned off.
@Egal0190
@Egal0190 3 месяца назад
Imagine being the US and calling other countries "nefarious actors" hahahahahahaha
@matthew.m.stevick
@matthew.m.stevick 3 месяца назад
China. You don’t want to mess 🇺🇸.
@hh0686
@hh0686 3 месяца назад
Who started the fight first?
@bored833
@bored833 3 месяца назад
Nice!!! about time...
@senju2024
@senju2024 3 месяца назад
Yeah but..how about American companies that hire Chinese developers? They enter American company and can get full access to Openai. Then they just report back to China that way.
@TheRealUsername
@TheRealUsername 3 месяца назад
The fact that 60% of AI research papers are published in China makes me realize that China has an active research field and can develop SOTA model on its own, currently for each SOTA model from an American startup (such as GPT-4 or Sora), you'll find a Chinese model that performs on par or better.
@hh0686
@hh0686 3 месяца назад
@@TheRealUsernamenot surprising. Robin Li of Baidu started out the backrub search idea before Google did. Page and Brin just ripped off of his research results
@akopellk
@akopellk 3 месяца назад
(1:43) BIG large language models?
@senju2024
@senju2024 3 месяца назад
LOL! There is no such thing as "BIG" LLMs. Just LLM. That is like saying very very 2 times.
@cleventlee6308
@cleventlee6308 3 месяца назад
《O P E N》 AI。hhhhhaa😂
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