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Operation Cinder Is Initiated By Palpatine As Referenced In The Mandalorian (Star Wars)
Operation: Cinder was the code name for the orbital bombardment campaign devised by Galactic Emperor Darth Sidious, who sought to punish the Galactic Empire for failing to prevent his death. Following the Emperor's demise during the Galactic Civil War in the Battle of Endor in 4 ABY, his posthumous instructions were relayed to loyal Imperial officers by sentinel messenger droids. They targeted various planets across the galaxy, including Burnin Konn, Candovant, Abednedo, Commenor, and Nacronis, as well as Vardos, a world known for its loyalty to the Empire, and the Emperor's homeworld of Naboo. Although Naboo was saved during the Battle of Theed, Vardos was devastated by satellites that ravaged its ecological balance. Operation: Cinder was the first part in the Emperor's Contingency; the Empire was to be rebuilt in the Unknown Regions while Sidious was secretly revived on Exegol.
The plan was undermined by Grand Admiral Rae Sloane, who killed the Emperor's protégé, Fleet Admiral Gallius Rax during the Battle of Jakku in 5 ABY. The widespread destruction caused by Operation: Cinder also resulted in Iden Versio and Del Meeko-Imperial Special Forces commandos of Inferno Squad-defecting to the New Republic Defense Force. Despite these setbacks, the Contingency succeeded in ensuring the Empire's revival as the First Order, a military junta determined to recapture the Imperial legacy by ending the New Republic Era.
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@shadowwolf7177
@shadowwolf7177 3 года назад
Thank you for showing this bro. This can help show those who didn’t understand Operation Cinder
@jonbong8547
@jonbong8547 3 года назад
definitely do more stuff like this, this is dope
@soundsgoodbro1296
@soundsgoodbro1296 3 года назад
It will also help those learn on Operation Cinder
@wileyjp1
@wileyjp1 3 года назад
I love StarWars. Thank you
@bluepotato7380
@bluepotato7380 3 года назад
I didn't know what the was talking about until this video! :D
@Krystalmyth
@Krystalmyth 3 года назад
It was terribly written so yeah that was going to happen.
@TheTruthIsGonnaHurt
@TheTruthIsGonnaHurt 3 года назад
Operation Cinder aka "The Emperor's Rage Quit" If I am no longer alive to play with the toys, then you are to break all the toys.
@AndreLuis-gw5ox
@AndreLuis-gw5ox 3 года назад
Sadly, its quite silly writing. In a real world scenario, it would be more probable that powerfull admirals and governors would split the Empire among themselves and fight a civil war to be the next emperor. I doubt any commander would just incinerate a planet when he just discovered that he is off the leash and can make himself king of his own little turf
@TheTruthIsGonnaHurt
@TheTruthIsGonnaHurt 3 года назад
@@AndreLuis-gw5ox I agree. However, if you recall The Emperor didn't tell everyone. He told key people he knew would go along with the plan. As we see, plenty didn't go along with the idea and outright refused. Even the person' that Palpatine trusted, own daughter was not onboard with the idea, hence why the Messenger Droid didn't trust her ass. The most sadistic were totally onboard they knew this was never about Peace and Order, this was about Dominance. If the Empire was ever to regain control it would have to be a total blood bath. Starting with Imperial Worlds was a bad idea though.. should of started by blowing up rebel worlds..
@RyunosukeHachi
@RyunosukeHachi 3 года назад
@@AndreLuis-gw5ox That was basically what happened in the old EU; once the emperor died, many of the Admirals started carving up parts of the Empire for themselves and declaring themselves Warlords, with the most successful ones being Zsinj, Harrsk, and Teradoc. But before them, there was Grand Admiral Thrawn, the Heir to the Empire.
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 3 года назад
@@RyunosukeHachi Yes, and looks like the Mandalorian may bring that prospect back, after prior lore implied few of those factions were a sizable threat in anyway. It was always a fairly decent vein of storytelling material, that era of the galaxy.
@richardvonhohenleben3143
@richardvonhohenleben3143 3 года назад
Reminds me of Hitler's abandonship of the Germans, despite him and his generals failing in each and every military aspect by 1943.
@HailNeatoBurrito
@HailNeatoBurrito 3 года назад
It would have been really interesting to see a Civil War between the Imperials loyal to Palpatine and the Imperials who genuinely believed in the Empire.
@cesarlopez9995
@cesarlopez9995 2 года назад
Like in George Lucas' original draft for the sequel s
@canisarcani
@canisarcani 2 года назад
you mean like what happened in legends? yeah, it was interesting.
@inspectorjavert9868
@inspectorjavert9868 2 года назад
Read Crimson Dawn if you can find it or the audiobook. It's non-canon now but it's pretty much about that
@Nedzilla345
@Nedzilla345 2 года назад
The Cade Skywalker series did a very good job showcasing this idea.
@M05tly
@M05tly 2 года назад
The direction Disney has taken starwars is so disappointing. The material and the creativity it made possible has been totally wrecked.
@Lonewolf360gaming
@Lonewolf360gaming 3 года назад
Palpatine:We sHall rUle tHe GaLAxY Also palpatine: let's just destroy our planets because why not
@TheSequimKid
@TheSequimKid 3 года назад
"If I can't have it, then no can."
@guts-141
@guts-141 3 года назад
Palpatine didn't want them to outlive him
@kahnac6194
@kahnac6194 3 года назад
Because he is/was a petty, spiteful villain with the mentality "If I can't have it, then noone can: not my enemies, and not the Empire I created that couldn't even serve and protect me like I MADE them for! Nobody touches my things, and no way in hell am I going to be outlived by failures - specifically the ones who let me down." Even in death, all he cares about is punishing the ones who fail him, and screwing everyone over.
@thedemonhater7748
@thedemonhater7748 3 года назад
@@TheSequimKid you joke, but this was literally the plan
@TheSequimKid
@TheSequimKid 3 года назад
@@thedemonhater7748 i know.
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 3 года назад
Fun fact, the actress who voice acts and motion captured Commander Iden Versio in this game (and who she's modeled after), Janina Gavankar, was a puppeteer in ONE shot of The Mandalorian: the Mon Calamari fisherman with the sweater. It wasn't even a planned cameo or anything. Her friend was just down a puppeteer and she filled in. Everyone on set was very confused, including Dave Filoni.
@sleepyrodent
@sleepyrodent Год назад
Shiva Kamini Soma Kandarkram!!!
@AndrewAce.
@AndrewAce. 8 месяцев назад
Lmao
@chicosuavae6764
@chicosuavae6764 10 дней назад
I'd be too. If I was Filoni, my first thought would be "Are we doing a cameo with her? Why wasn't I told."
@mysticwraith6667
@mysticwraith6667 3 года назад
"We shall destroy the rebellion by going after the people who had nothing to do with it 👿"
@benrussell-gough1201
@benrussell-gough1201 3 года назад
To Palpatine, that made sense. It tells you everything that you need to know about him and his 'New Order'.
@Destiny87
@Destiny87 3 года назад
Pretty sure the idea was "Look what we do to our own people. Imagine what we'll do to you!"
@clearshade3560
@clearshade3560 3 года назад
He doesn’t want rebels to win it back that easily. I’m sure the bigger gap from his time and rule til the next big thing the more he would be remembered
@emily1
@emily1 3 года назад
The reality is, Palpatine didn't want anyone to have the empire if he can't. Kind of a punishment for his (then apparent) death.
@DaveS_shuttle
@DaveS_shuttle 3 года назад
@@emily1 Exactly. It's known as "the scroched earth policy" and aims to destroy anything no matter how insignificant it might be to prevent it from falling under enemy control.
@Commanderziff
@Commanderziff 3 года назад
"The only way to re-establish control over what we've lost is to destroy what we still have!" The Emperor truly was a strategic mastermind. It gets even more brilliant in hindsight, now that we know he wasn't even dead. He just wanted his next match with the Rebellion to be on "Expert" mode. Then he got bored and used a cheat code for 1,000 ships. A very complex and nuanced strategy.
@dorrito
@dorrito 2 года назад
He was dead. He got thrown down a reactor and blew up. He was dead here, this was written before the current version of 9 as a last recorded order. Disney's/j.j.'s bad last minute writing didn't change that.
@adamj8917
@adamj8917 2 года назад
Yeah, the sequels were bonkers.
@snapdragon9300
@snapdragon9300 2 года назад
Don't worry, Disney activated cheat mode with Reys Mary Sue character.😆
@SpaceAtomz
@SpaceAtomz 2 года назад
I wouldn’t call him a strategic mastermind, he just ruled with fear. He’s practically the Stalin of this franchise
@budgetbrick5124
@budgetbrick5124 2 года назад
Guess palpatine was having a gamer rage
@cosmickeyboard9811
@cosmickeyboard9811 2 года назад
"So what happens now" "We retaliate" *Procceds to destroy their own planets*
@MegaZeta
@MegaZeta 2 месяца назад
"I question our orders and the entire power structure that gives us orders. I openly refuse to obey you, this is my declaration of high treason" "I disapprove, anyway here's your mission, it's absolutely vital to our effort, we're putting everything in your hands so please do a good job"
@razzo086
@razzo086 3 года назад
This even better now after the last Mandalorian episode
@EvanYoungMusic
@EvanYoungMusic 3 года назад
This now makes way more sense like how Rogue One made A New Hope even more impactful.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 2 года назад
@@EvanYoungMusic No it doesn't. After Rise of Skywalker it makes LESS sense. Why would Palpatine destroy his own Empire because of dying when he was never actually dead?
@kinzle6831
@kinzle6831 2 года назад
@@LordVader1094 Because the game came out before the sequel trilogy and no one expected the shitty twist that ol' palpatine was alive.
@tarquiniuskelompok3708
@tarquiniuskelompok3708 2 года назад
@@LordVader1094 thats the sequel for you
@thomasmadden3080
@thomasmadden3080 2 года назад
@@kinzle6831 ya initially Palp wanted to dissolve the entire empire if he could no longer rule the galaxy, a spiteful itch indeed
@faded9581
@faded9581 3 года назад
There are issues with its conception from the pov of literally anyone who isn’t Palpatine, but from his own twisted mindset this kind of order makes perfect sense. Sith ideology dictates that there is absolutely nothing after death outside of what one has literally or physically built, a legacy or an apprentice. Therefore, Sith dedicate themselves over mastering death and doing whatever is humanely possible to ensure their supremacy in life If Palpatine dies, then, to him, nothing remains. He doesn’t benefit from an empire that immortalizes him, because he is dead, and there is nothingness. Thus, in the ultimate act of spite, he annihilates his own empire, preventing an individual from inheriting the Empire he selfishly clutched onto for himself, and only himself. Why the Imperial officers adhered to such orders, I find most bizarre. Even the most staunchest of loyalists would give pause to the murders of their own families.
@andrewxu3602
@andrewxu3602 3 года назад
^^^
@Fulcrox
@Fulcrox 3 года назад
Not Even the Old Republic Sith lords had such retarded plans
@joecarter1486
@joecarter1486 3 года назад
Palpatine is more than strong enough to return as a ghost and possess someone though. That's why in Old Cannon they had to used jedi ghosts to hold him.
@beckonerseven9517
@beckonerseven9517 3 года назад
Stalin did scorched earth too. Malignant narcissists would rather sink a ship than let anybody else be the captain.
@beckonerseven9517
@beckonerseven9517 3 года назад
The Imperial Officers were all malignant sociopaths, they had zero issues carrying out such orders. Flying Monkeys of narcissists with military power use their station as an outlet for their evil
@kimmeeb
@kimmeeb 3 года назад
My parents were really confused during the Operation Cinder scene in Mandalorian, meanwhile I was just wide-eyed with my hands to my mouth realizing what Mayfeld was referring to, what he saw. Kudos to him for killing that commander asshat
@adamsarellano7655
@adamsarellano7655 Год назад
soyjack moment
@MegaZeta
@MegaZeta 2 месяца назад
Why did the pudgy captain order that lady to go do something crucial to their campaign by herself after she openly suggested treason? He seems poorly written
@Maskofanonymity
@Maskofanonymity 3 года назад
I believe Valin Hess(the officer in the mandalorian) explained it the best. The empire was going to cause as much disorder as possible so that the people of the galaxy would become so fatigued and exhausted from war and crime that they would welcome the empire and the order they could bring. The use of satellite lasers on planets that were loyal to the empire was used as an reminder of what the empire was not only capable, but willing to do to keep themselves in control.
@flightoftheagitator386
@flightoftheagitator386 3 года назад
+Dirk Diggler Is your tin foil hat store bought or home made? 🤔
@Fulcrox
@Fulcrox 3 года назад
How fucking retarded writing can be these Days lmao I mean, is Star Wars but still
@flashgordonsthemesong2838
@flashgordonsthemesong2838 3 года назад
@@cibo889 Even then the Inquisitors often faced scrutiny for it. Some were even deemed traitors to the Imperium for committing unnecessary exterminatus. Even in the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is still a recognition that genocide is wrong.
@pheonix940
@pheonix940 3 года назад
The thing is, it didn't make sense. There was little tactical or strategic gain from destroying imperial controlled worlds. Yes, you strike fear into other imperial controlled worlds and maybe make them less likely to defect, but you lose an entire world, and all the resources it provides. Not only that, but atrocities like this are what drive people to revolt in the first place.
@Maskofanonymity
@Maskofanonymity 3 года назад
@@pheonix940 I agree and I think it wasn't a well thought out plot point for the game and star wars as a whole. If it was presented as a more petty, 'if I can't have it, then no one can' motivation by the emperor, then it would make more sense. Unfortunately there is no evidence to support this fully.
@danieldevito6380
@danieldevito6380 3 года назад
This is why I love The Mandalorian. They use source material from everything
@comicon-trailers-n-talks42069
Even from the non canon Ewok films... The Blurg in the first season was from there
@YodaOnABender
@YodaOnABender Год назад
Even the bad stuff like this
@scottf5791
@scottf5791 Месяц назад
yes and it's still crap
@EvanYoungMusic
@EvanYoungMusic 3 года назад
So incredible they tied in Battlefront 2 with Mandalorian.
@AgeDrain
@AgeDrain 3 года назад
It seems to have been from a comic source material. The game and the show referenced from it.
@rodrigomdias3001
@rodrigomdias3001 3 года назад
@@AgeDrain the game story is canon, also Fallen Order
@microsoftpowerpoint3039
@microsoftpowerpoint3039 3 года назад
@@rodrigomdias3001 cool
@jakelee5096
@jakelee5096 3 года назад
@@rodrigomdias3001 Fallen Order is a pile of horse shit and non-canon
@angelmedinanieves8935
@angelmedinanieves8935 3 года назад
@@jakelee5096 Keep crying, Fallen Order is Canon and it was amazing 🤏
@firstlast9846
@firstlast9846 3 года назад
*Rahs, That Droid is Terrifying* the way it went from 0-100 in seconds when She isn’t Verified
@wj3186
@wj3186 3 года назад
Dad just chilin with the freak thing like theys friends now. wtf.
@MikMoen
@MikMoen 3 года назад
When I first played through I thought the Satellites were just affecting the atmosphere, altering the climate. The visuals made it appear that way to me. Didn't realize they were literally energy weapons vaporizing the surface.
@guts-141
@guts-141 3 года назад
If you want a better visual of it then go watch HALO Reach glassing scenes Basically same thing
@obiwankenobi687
@obiwankenobi687 3 года назад
I think they do just affect the climate, it seemed that way in the shattered empire comics
@kennethhuang3878
@kennethhuang3878 3 года назад
They do just affect the climate. The satellites create electrical storms on any planet. In the case with Mayfield’s platoon, they were wiped out with the rest of a city because the city was in open rebellion. Fun fact, Burning Konn is actually depicted in the mobile game Star Wars: Uprising.
@MirzaKhalid
@MirzaKhalid 3 года назад
So that means Elon Musk is doing the same thing by building and sending special satellites all over the Earth with his great plan 🤔
@JayTimmons
@JayTimmons 3 года назад
@@MirzaKhalid probably not
@Foxtrop13
@Foxtrop13 3 года назад
"the rebels most not learn about our intentions about operation cinder!" proceeds to explain their intentions via radio communication in a battle
@MegaZeta
@MegaZeta 2 месяца назад
"I'm declaring my insubordination and intent to commit high treason, loudly and in full earshot of your officers" "Hm well im very grumpy at you. Anyway here's a really important mission to our desperate war effort, we really need this one to go well"
@guilhermehank4938
@guilhermehank4938 3 года назад
The moment you realize that palpatine is alive all along makes this operation look a whole more preposterous than ever before
@jameskarg3240
@jameskarg3240 3 года назад
Sith emperors have a single end goal: Become a Force Lich and live forever by feeding on the living force as its forced out of all things by death and destruction. Its why, even in the days of the old republic, sith emperors did EXACTLY as palpatine: Mega-weapons to kill whole planets of people, feed off the residual force from it all, ensuring your own power would trandscend even death itself.
@guilhermehank4938
@guilhermehank4938 3 года назад
@@jameskarg3240 That still doesnt answer the question as to WHY Palpatine would want his empire brought down to "cinders" if he is still alive. I will tell you the answer Because Rian Johnson killed Snoke and they panicked
@jameskarg3240
@jameskarg3240 3 года назад
@@guilhermehank4938 Not saying it made sense, just saying hes not the first and its nit new for sith. Ally, enemy, neutral. To a would-be demigod, the source doesnt matter. If the force can make one trandscend death, to hell with the methods, theyll make it happen even if they have to sacrifice their own empire to do it. That all Sith emperors ever viewed their "subjects" as: A disposable means to an end. Nothing more. It may seem an out of the blue illogical step by disney, but look at fhe hsitory and see: This is NOTHING new to the sith. If anything, its an average tuesday at worst.
@yassiryabeta3204
@yassiryabeta3204 3 года назад
@@guilhermehank4938 Yes, Snoke might have been an interesting antagonist but they screwed him up, like there aren't more bad and powerful people in the universe, what a waste
@infinitedm5396
@infinitedm5396 3 года назад
Actually in terms of their end goals, this actually makes -more- sense. There are like three layers to operation cinder: The most obvious layer was to sow chaos, and show strength. make the galaxy want the level of calm air-tight control the empire provided. The second layer was a punishment, as others have quoted, "If an Empire cannot protect its Emperor then that Empire must be deemed a failure." The last point, and it's the most "rational" if we can call it that, is the culling of the empire to shrink it to a manageable size -and- to ensure only the most loyal and devoted are within its ranks. Those that can take a direct order to glass their own home world are the insane loyalists you want left for you after your empire fails to protect you. So, if we take all that context, and put it alongside "What does the Avatar of Narcissism want to do?" We get operation cinder. A batshit crazy idea that... actually makes a kind of twisted sense.
@_sausageman_
@_sausageman_ 3 года назад
*shoots self in the foot* “yeah bet you don’t wanna mess with me now huh?” Basically what’s going on
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 3 года назад
Exactly. Dumbest thing imaginable
@sirsneakybeaky
@sirsneakybeaky 2 года назад
In fairness I wouldnt want to fuck with a dude who is willing to shoot himself in the foot.
@MegaZeta
@MegaZeta 2 месяца назад
"I declare our orders null and void and myself in open insubordination as well as treason against you and this military" "Ah well i disapprove. Please go perform this mission now, it's vitally important to our endangered war effort"
@CedarHunt
@CedarHunt 3 года назад
"The emperor is dead and we want to be sure that we are also defeated and, if captured, executed for war crimes by destroying our own financial, production and manpower bases to ensure that we lose the war as quickly and efficientlyas possible." Just go with it I guess.
@adams303
@adams303 3 года назад
Yeah absolutely terrible "writing"
@sirboomsalot4902
@sirboomsalot4902 3 года назад
@@adams303 Its not terrible writing. Palpatines thinking was “If I can’t have it, no one can”
@adams303
@adams303 3 года назад
@@sirboomsalot4902 and why would anyone go along with that after he is dead? It doesn't make any sense at all. Especially killing civilians on their home planet. And it wasn't a case of "if I can't have it no one can" - it was to sow fear. This is the recurrent problem with star wars writing. Every bad guy wants to build an absurd superweapon that can blow up whole planets which makes absolutely no sense.
@pwaw
@pwaw 3 года назад
@@adams303 I mean, tons of them didn't go along with it. Pretty much only the fanatics. There's a reason a major political faction of the New Republic is made up of former Imperials who still believe in Authoritarianism but didn't want any part of operation Cinder. Plus they're more and more fleshing out the idea of there having been breakaway warlords other than the First Order.
@ss_pieman9677
@ss_pieman9677 3 года назад
@@adams303 lmao y’all need to look into history when you ask the question “no one would ever do that” the Germans did the EXACT SAME THING in WWII. When it was obvious the war had turned in favor of the Allies, Hitler authorized the Scorched Earth policy. Destroy and burn EVERYTHING as they retreated from the Soviets. If Hitler couldn’t have it or use it then no one could.
@JC-mi7wn
@JC-mi7wn 3 года назад
15:32 I like how the crew of the Corvus were loyal to Iden and Meeko
@callumemery1700
@callumemery1700 3 года назад
i didnt realise they even had a crew outside the 3 inferno members thats cool
@7oy
@7oy 3 года назад
I thought they were some of the civilians they were rescuing.
@sirboomsalot4902
@sirboomsalot4902 3 года назад
She likely didn’t have much of a crew. Raider can technically be manned by only a single person, though typically they had larger crews.
@theshiftybeef6251
@theshiftybeef6251 3 года назад
Wow dude Bill Burr, surprises me Disney let him be in there with how he is. I think he’s funny af for the record.
@abdulkhafidsulaymaan
@abdulkhafidsulaymaan 3 года назад
How is he exactly?
@theshiftybeef6251
@theshiftybeef6251 3 года назад
@@abdulkhafidsulaymaan He’s hilarious but it’s adult humor... His bits go anywhere from politics to slapping women. I take it if you’re asking you have never heard him on stage in a comedy club.
@abdulkhafidsulaymaan
@abdulkhafidsulaymaan 3 года назад
@@theshiftybeef6251 I've listened to most all of his stuff. he was on Chappelle show and in Breaking Bad.
@robertcremin3291
@robertcremin3291 3 года назад
Apparently it was Jon Favreau who offered him the role because he thought it would be funny if he was in Star Wars after Bill said publically that he didn’t like Star Wars
@jameswalton5896
@jameswalton5896 3 года назад
Oh wow I played the mission and didn’t even know what they was talking about on the show
@carlosmondragon6639
@carlosmondragon6639 3 года назад
I just now did also. So much movies could never budget tO fully explain. If the corporate douchebags could get the stick out of their ass they could make mor3 than theiR stupid cash grab movies from write to who don't love oR have no love for This genrE. Hollywood wake the fuck up!!!!!!!!
@NRDoesStuff
@NRDoesStuff 3 года назад
@@carlosmondragon6639 it’s just a reference dude calm the fuck down
@xxTheFlyingPigxx
@xxTheFlyingPigxx 3 года назад
@@carlosmondragon6639 Chill.
@leonardonatera2344
@leonardonatera2344 3 года назад
@@carlosmondragon6639 you want a hug?
@nicholasthuya7683
@nicholasthuya7683 3 года назад
@@carlosmondragon6639 lol Star Wars is now owned by Disney not Hollywood
@TheLiamster
@TheLiamster 3 года назад
If I remember correctly, we first see Operation Cinder in the Shattered Empire comics.
@anoven7008
@anoven7008 3 года назад
True, doubt you can post an entire comic in a video tho but those comics were awesome
@jacobnewcombe5367
@jacobnewcombe5367 3 года назад
@@anoven7008 there is entire channels that do just that. You can't use text to much, mostly just empty speech bubbles and narration lol. It works. "Read" all the Vader comics this way.
@P0l1ux
@P0l1ux 3 года назад
I have the comic sitting somewhere in my room
@captainpi9724
@captainpi9724 3 года назад
"They must not discover our plans!". Proceeds to lay out the whole plan over comms for no reason in the middle of a space battle because you can't intercept comms or anything like that.
@chukwudiilozue9171
@chukwudiilozue9171 2 года назад
OpSec died.
@LB-py9ig
@LB-py9ig 2 года назад
Any smart rebel would have not interfered. Cinder is guaranteed to engineer a rebel victory. It's basically the "Join the rebellion if you want to live" order.
@yseson_
@yseson_ 3 года назад
A lot of people can’t understand why Palpatine wanted operation Cinder it seems counterintuitive. Unfortunately the Empire was little more than a trophy, proof of Sith supremacy and the supremacy of Darth Sidious’ genius it had no point as far as he was concerned beyond his existence
@CMage101
@CMage101 2 года назад
Palpatine wasn't doing this for the Empire. He was doing it for HIM. The Dark Lords all have one thing in common; sacrifice others to bring the Sith power. Death on that scale empowered the Dark Side of the Force, which is what Palpatine intended. The only order Palpatine was concerned with was the order he gave to others.
@olimar7647
@olimar7647 2 года назад
Oh, wait a minute.... That might actually explain things even better. See, Cinder seemed like a rage quit sort of thing from what I knew of it, but considering the very real likelihood of such evil empowering the Dark Side, this could have been part of his plan to ensure he survived. He had enough power on his own to cling to "life" for a while, but not enough to return. And so he made Cinder to bolster the Dark Side and thus his powers. Which makes this all the more disgusting, as it basically means he was performing human sacrifice..... I prefer the Rage Quit theory, please.
@CMage101
@CMage101 2 года назад
@@olimar7647 Like that would've been the FIRST time that Sith tried to gain power by sacrificing the lives of others.....
@olimar7647
@olimar7647 Год назад
@@CMage101 I don't know of many instances where they've done it in a cult-like ritual, though. They've done plenty of murder to allow themselves to grow unopposed, but to me, ritual sacrifice adds another layer of disgust
@olimar7647
@olimar7647 Год назад
@@CMage101 but yes, valid point either way
@gibbs615
@gibbs615 Год назад
See the empire has always been evil and Palpatine has corrupted those who blindly joined it and they became evil themselves cause they didn't have very strong wills as Iden and Del did here.
@TonySpike
@TonySpike 3 года назад
I like how the emporer bot basically does his hand movements too lol
@SourRobo8364
@SourRobo8364 3 года назад
Jon Favreau: "Alright, people weren't impressed by the storylines those other idiots made, how can I use this that respects the time fans have dedicated to the franchise?"
@dafphtthedislikeupdater7836
@dafphtthedislikeupdater7836 3 года назад
Jon Favreau: *aggressively respects the franchise*
@bigblue207
@bigblue207 3 года назад
Seriously though the battlefront 2 campaign was ridiculously forgettable
@darthnater9731
@darthnater9731 3 года назад
At this point the fans don't deserve jon or dave. They have acted like spoiled brats for the past 22 years. They do not deserve respect because all they do is whine and bitch about shit.
@thanatosstorm
@thanatosstorm 3 года назад
@@darthnater9731 And yet Dave and Jon both are part of those spoiled brats and have returned the favor in spades. This is the way, Sith.
@darthnater9731
@darthnater9731 3 года назад
@@thanatosstorm lol charming how you think calling me a sith is an insult. I'll take it lol. So I'm guessing you're one of those pissbaby fanboys who forced george to sell the company. Yeah it's your fault. Yes jon and dave are huge fans but they're not toxic like you and the other fanboys. It's the fanboys fault that George sold.
@Lawgamer411
@Lawgamer411 3 года назад
This just makes me want Iden in live action even more now. I feel like they cast her in the game knowing she could translate perfectly over to TV or Animation.
@bwtrader
@bwtrader 2 года назад
Would be great to see the actress in Mandolorian
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 2 года назад
What would there be to even do with her? She turned rebel and then did nothing for 30 years and died.
@singmysin
@singmysin 2 года назад
@@LordVader1094 if it wasn't for her the rebels wouldn't have found starkiller base
@bobthebuilder1360
@bobthebuilder1360 2 года назад
@@bwtrader she's literally in the mandolarian she plays a random background character
@brodymills899
@brodymills899 3 года назад
“Execute Operation Rage Quit.”
@iDropPhats
@iDropPhats 3 года назад
The fact that I completely forgot that Bill Burr was in the mandalorian makes the first scene one of the best I’ve ever seen 😂
@pewpewpew5892
@pewpewpew5892 3 года назад
The Imperial kool-aid must be the best tasting liquid in the galaxy next to blue milk to have people pull this off.
@TrentonBennett
@TrentonBennett 2 года назад
It's cool to see animation for characters in games like this has come such a long way. They look like real people now.
@literalsarcasm1830
@literalsarcasm1830 3 года назад
There is no amount of loyalty that will ever outweigh a person's right to choose.
@benrussell-gough1201
@benrussell-gough1201 3 года назад
That is a statement that, in Shreev Palpatine's mind, would mark you as the vilest type of traitor.
@literalsarcasm1830
@literalsarcasm1830 3 года назад
@@benrussell-gough1201 well he's dead, so his opinion doesn't really matter much anymore.
@literalsarcasm1830
@literalsarcasm1830 3 года назад
@Autismo’s 4th Backup I'll just go the same route Discovery haters go and say the sequels are in an alternate timeline and therefore don't count towards canon.
@Cybop-xd9mm
@Cybop-xd9mm 3 года назад
Literal Sarcasm no ones ever really gone 🤭
@literalsarcasm1830
@literalsarcasm1830 3 года назад
@@Cybop-xd9mm if my eyes rolled any harder, I'd collapse from a seizure.
@asianboy969
@asianboy969 3 года назад
Operation Cinder (aka. If I can’t have it, no one can have it) I think if the Madolorian out 1st then the game, the main story would not get a lots of hate because of typical Imperial Troop defections THIS IS THE REASON WHY THEY LEAVE THE EMPIRES
@darkcoeficient
@darkcoeficient 3 года назад
I don't think you understood the backlash.
@Fulcrox
@Fulcrox 3 года назад
Not Even close, the Backslash is because they promised an imperial story (specially in the trailers), and instead they gave the most childish conception of changing sides, while making the Empire even more stupid
@makisbizarreadventure4669
@makisbizarreadventure4669 2 года назад
@@Fulcrox I mean the concept of the Empire infighting from those who believed the Empire is above all and others who actually believed in the Empire is not a bad concept
@Fulcrox
@Fulcrox 2 года назад
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 The thing is, they are not infighting, they are just throwing Mayhem randomly at their own possessions for no reason
@CrunchyRhombus
@CrunchyRhombus 3 года назад
Didnt even notice that the reference in the show referred to this. Thanks for sharing!
@richcast66
@richcast66 3 года назад
So destroy those that were loyal to you, so that others can join the rebellion. Logic
@ObviouslyNotXenrek
@ObviouslyNotXenrek 3 года назад
typical scorched earth tactics. rally/consolidate forces within a territory you *can* control in absolute. destroy everything else as you leave. makes your "new" borders more secure, and leaves nothing usable for the enemy in the lands youve abandoned. Sure, the rebellion can gather all the soldiers they want from the various devastated worlds, but they will be without the infrastructure to even feed them all, let alone equip/maintain them as an army. In fact, if your assuming (as they claimed earlier when Versio suggested capturing their cruiser instead of destroying it) that your enemies primary weakness is their "compassion", then bogging down their resources with an insurmountable refugee crisis would be a pretty significant way to cripple their ability to continue funding/orchestrating insurrectionist movements
@richcast66
@richcast66 3 года назад
@@patrickhurley5457 Are you alright man? Do you need help?
@AshtonCoolman
@AshtonCoolman 3 года назад
This is the slowest Exterminatus I've ever seen!
@alexmercer5414
@alexmercer5414 2 года назад
Lol
@bwtrader
@bwtrader 2 года назад
It’s no Death Star...
@piplup2009
@piplup2009 2 года назад
Palpatine: "when I die destroy everything the empire has done" Palpatines clone: "I did not think that one through"
@Resjek
@Resjek 3 года назад
Your editing needs a lot more appreciation bro. You did good
@glp
@glp 3 года назад
Thank you. Your comment is much appreciated. 👍
@shogunpug4071
@shogunpug4071 2 года назад
What did he do? Lmao cuts?
@ninianstorm6494
@ninianstorm6494 Год назад
@@glp aware US can give everyone medicare+lower inflation so wages regain value but need to punish all those whom want to stay in Syria like Schiff/pelosi? remain illegally in syria etc=constant print money george bush 14 years ago said he wants ukraine in nato foreshadow nuland f word 2014 coup ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nTQ3D1a-j20.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V9rnoe18q3s.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L2XNN0Yt6D8.html current ukraine gov is proxy since obama drew red line just like he did in syria arming rebels prior to ukraine gov bomb eastern ukraine on nuland orders ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ta9dWRcDUPA.html wesley clark foreshadow reveal 2000 to 2012 all rig for kill iraq to syria ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_mrJRHwbVG8.html dnc kill 50 in vegas/portland, thugs attack with stand down cops san jose/charlotte, burn loot several months, sabotage afgan withdraw using russia bounty smear to give taliban equip, blm crash car in to wisconsin parade thanks to nbc follow jury bus smearing ritten house too ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UxoL8tHSa7g.html The Army Corp of Engineers estimated the cost of fixing the entire water system of Flint, Michigan was between $1-1.5 billion. That was 8 years ago.
@mastheace5789
@mastheace5789 3 года назад
I think it would’ve been cooler to play the game from Hask’s perspective, seeing the horrors of Operation Cinder that cause his friends to desert, but he still stays with the Empire. We’d also get to see the rise of the First Order and the creation of the Dreadnaught.
@LunarSault23
@LunarSault23 2 года назад
They should make it a dlc
@jerrettmarks6399
@jerrettmarks6399 2 года назад
Yeah but then we wouldn't get muh epic strong independent female of color protagonist
@ghost1189
@ghost1189 2 года назад
@@jerrettmarks6399 imagine being mad about that
@robos3809
@robos3809 2 года назад
Ok are you also gonna ask for a game about ww2 playing as the nazis
@dylanroemmele906
@dylanroemmele906 2 года назад
@@robos3809 I mean, yeah, it's required in most WW2 games to let you play as the Germans, especially in a MP game like COD or Hell Let Loose or even games like HOI4. You essentially idolize them by making them this big scary thing that can't be touched, which is a very bad thing.
@CoolSmoovie
@CoolSmoovie 3 года назад
For those that don’t know in Legends after years of fighting after Endor the Empire and the New Republic was like, “alright we gunna do this forever till one of us is dead?” They believably signed a peace treaty and let the Empire still contest a quarter or more since you know entire generations grew up on these Imperial worlds. Realistic, believable writing that draws parallels to real world Nation relations. The Imperials aren’t evil to be evil, the fight for what they think is right like most people do.
@CoolSmoovie
@CoolSmoovie 2 года назад
@@Sam-pie I get that their evil, but it still makes no sense. How can you continue a war by destroying all of your material and recruiting worlds. I can buy evil, but I cannot buy stupid.
@MrYarik04
@MrYarik04 2 года назад
@@Sam-pie what was so bad about the Empire apart from blowing up Alderaan (which can too be excused in a certain way). That they removed democracy from the Senate? Boo hoo, there wasn’t much in the Republic times anyway. The Republic, by the way, wasn’t that good of a power anyway. The things Palpy said about the senators being full of themselves is true, there was still slavery, they supressed the separatist movement with violence, and so on. Lucas, in his movies, did not establish anyone to be evil for the sake of being evil, Anakin literally bragged about bringing peace and stability to his new empire. Bro didn’t lie
@steadyjumper3547
@steadyjumper3547 2 года назад
@@Sam-pie I thought the whole point of Star Wars was that Vader a character that seems completely evil can be redeemed and does have depth for why they might become the way they are? Shouldn’t more of that be a good thing?
@theman3274
@theman3274 2 года назад
@@Sam-pie Blowing up a planet is just as bad as nuking a city.
@accountname9506
@accountname9506 2 года назад
@@MrYarik04 lots of slavery. government endorsed slavery. murdering entire civilian populations for 'weapons tests' (read: jedha). just... so much. That doesn't mean that the empire doesn't have people trying to good within it. It literally spanned the galaxy (well, the part of the star wars galaxy that was accessable). You had billions upon billions of people in Imperial service. However, the Empire as a whole was, you know, run by a dark lord of the sith, who has a vested intrest in making people suffer.
@jeo228
@jeo228 3 года назад
This ended the entire "the empire was in the right" argument in one moment
@THESnipz
@THESnipz 3 года назад
While I love Star Wars, I was really hoping for a actual empire side of the war. Not just “oh the empire is Evil we must go to the rebels”, like we get in these types of storys every time. I wanted something different and refreshing. Showing why so many people would risk their lives for the Empire, what they believed was right.
@MellowMeh
@MellowMeh 3 года назад
A good book called Lost Stars gives you an idea on people who grew up and joined the empire. Not a show or movie but it's still a good story. I recommend getting the audiobook if you don't have time to read.
@Waaaghtatic
@Waaaghtatic 3 года назад
This is showing that type of story. The ultimate take away from it is that the Empire isn't worth risking your life for in the end, because it actually isn't in the right at all.
@chancecarlson2023
@chancecarlson2023 3 года назад
Thats the point, the empire wasn't right and was blatantly evil
@waterlight0243
@waterlight0243 3 года назад
Yeah, hate to say it bud but the Empire is like 100 percent evil. Like maybe the rebels can be a bit shady, but nothing compared to the empire. The only reason why people would die for the empire is because of propaganda and fear
@failandia
@failandia 3 года назад
So you want a film that actually defend a genocidal dictatorship. How about no ?
@jackbriggs3874
@jackbriggs3874 3 года назад
I think there are now two version of the empire at this current time. The fraction in the unknown region after jakku and the ones in the mandolorian. Two empires with two different goals.
@andrewxu3602
@andrewxu3602 3 года назад
Three empires: the faction in the Unknown Regions, the ones in The Mandalorian, and the ones that just signed a peace treaty after Jakku and plays no part in what's going on in the galaxy.
@jackbriggs3874
@jackbriggs3874 3 года назад
Thrawn would also be the leader of the imperials in mando since he was missing during operation cinder along with the death of the emperor
@jonathan4353
@jonathan4353 3 года назад
I think the empire is kinda scattered and messy after their defeat in endor and after being leaderless as the emperor presumably died. So they have multiple high ranked leaders with goals of their owns in multiple places of the galaxy
@Jachammer93
@Jachammer93 3 года назад
@@jonathan4353 yup you nailed it. Like after Djengis died, the empire is scattered and warlords like Gideon are grasping for power. It's not unified under a leader any more, it's many smaller groups who previously were the empire.
@ethanmitchell7479
@ethanmitchell7479 3 года назад
“Civilians are expendable....” What kind of madness is that!
@TheFacelessStoryMaker
@TheFacelessStoryMaker 2 года назад
I love how Palpatine never considered this helping the Rebellion. By basically saying "See. Even if you are loyal to the Empire they will still crush you and kill you. Why not stand up and defend yourselves?"
@20PINKluvr
@20PINKluvr 3 года назад
Wow this game has cutscenes that are just as good as a live action movie
@skywolfx76
@skywolfx76 Год назад
The fact the troopers were willing to stay knowing about the orbital strike is scary dedication
@caninelupus8369
@caninelupus8369 Год назад
Stormtroopers were chosen for their fanaticism and loyalty.
@skywolfx76
@skywolfx76 Год назад
@@caninelupus8369 they definitely had a great and rooted loyalty to the promise of the empire. And really, they were just people at the end of the day. People who wanted to not only make a difference but keep themselves and probably their loved ones safe
@amazingbro6723
@amazingbro6723 3 года назад
They glassed their own planet then... Edit: I know why they did it but that leaves the question, do they consider it holy?
@Crackshotsteph
@Crackshotsteph 3 года назад
If an Empire cannot protect its Emperor then that Empire must be deemed a failure.
@Crackshotsteph
@Crackshotsteph 3 года назад
They glassed multiple Imperial Worlds.
@combatwighty
@combatwighty 3 года назад
@@Crackshotsteph what are they... The Covenant?
@hilnnerfarias913
@hilnnerfarias913 3 года назад
The empire has been glassing it's own planets for some time.
@amazingbro6723
@amazingbro6723 3 года назад
@@hilnnerfarias913 the question is, do they consider it holy?
@loganh4642
@loganh4642 3 года назад
His plan kinda makes sense, root out the weak, but for what? Oh yeah...Star destroyers with Death Star guns...at least they’re being constant
@ting280
@ting280 3 года назад
he wasn't rooting out the weak, he was sowing fear and discord. the people on the ground wouldn't know why the city was destroyed, the US I mean the Empire could just go ahead and say it was Iran or China I mean the Rebellion
@ddddd9665
@ddddd9665 3 года назад
If you equate Iran or China with the Rebellion then you are lost. China has literal concentration camps for fuck sake.
@ting280
@ting280 3 года назад
@@ddddd9665 No I don't say they're freedom fighters out here saving the world I said they're the scapegoats the military industrial complex has the media point to as the villains to justify inflated defense spending.
@compmanio36
@compmanio36 3 года назад
@@ddddd9665 "China has literal concentration camps for fuck sake." And we ally ourselves with them for cheap shit at Walmart. Makes you think.
@bm337
@bm337 3 года назад
@@compmanio36 makes you think how there are no good guys in this world. All world powers are bad, some are just better at hiding it.
@yoshidinono8095
@yoshidinono8095 3 года назад
I remember hearing Cinder in the show, and I was like "wait, WHAT!?!"
@djspit8929
@djspit8929 2 года назад
When he brought up Cinder in that scene i remembered this and thought "damn, how'd he even survive it?"
@moises0847
@moises0847 3 года назад
Thanks for showing this, I didn’t even realize this mission was mentioned in the show
@mannycuevas6961
@mannycuevas6961 3 года назад
I had played Star Wars Battlefront 2. I forgot about the name of this operation up until now. I like how the people who work with Star Wars still bind everything together within the movies and shows as well.
@Shiirow
@Shiirow 3 года назад
his first order as emperor was genocide, his last order as emperor was genocide. consistency is key I suppose.
@michaeldeitch3642
@michaeldeitch3642 3 года назад
It’s really amazing how the events of the galaxy connect with each other
@TheFirstCurse1
@TheFirstCurse1 3 года назад
I actually liked some of the story elements from EA Battlefront 2. Operation Cinder makes perfect sense for my man Pappa Palps, and seeing how it affected the Imperials was cool. But it shouldn't have been about destroying the Rebellion. It would have been better if Palpatine wanted to take the world with him, because if he can't have "his" world, no one can. I do wish though that we'd get a game where we were like counter "terrorist" Storm Troopers or something. Hell Star Wars needs more games PERIOD.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 2 года назад
>makes perfect sense for Palps No it doesn't? He had no reason to destroy his own Empire cuz he was still alive.
@TheFirstCurse1
@TheFirstCurse1 2 года назад
@@LordVader1094 Oh I see what you mean. I'm forgetting the sequel trilogy, and I haven't ever considered it to be canon. Most fans don't.
@Revkor
@Revkor 2 года назад
@@TheFirstCurse1 even takign that out still doesn't. It's a dumb idea and of course EA and Disney make it up
@greenpigking6974
@greenpigking6974 2 года назад
@@LordVader1094 I thought he was resurrected. I don’t think we know for a fact he’s alive at all.
@floseatyard8063
@floseatyard8063 Год назад
Pure fax
@TCWRebelsResistanceWords
@TCWRebelsResistanceWords Год назад
First time I heard of Operation Cinder was in the first book of the Alphabet Squadron trilogy. I was completely horrified by it. But seeing this was even more terrifying!
@Afineaddition
@Afineaddition 3 года назад
I wonder if we'll ever see Iden or her squad in s3 of The Mandalorian or Rangers of the New Republic
@JohnJohn-bz1lq
@JohnJohn-bz1lq 3 года назад
Well no because This scene happened right after the second Death Star
@Turbulation1
@Turbulation1 3 года назад
@@JohnJohn-bz1lq I mean The mandalorian does take place in 9 ABY which is around a few years after the battle of Jakku and long before Iden dies during TFA. Though Iden did state in battlefront 2 that she never fought in the resistance (and nor the new republic I assume) so we might not see her at all.
@andrewpandrew7786
@andrewpandrew7786 3 года назад
Honestly it’s a strong possibility because the actress who played Iden was the model for the character so they look exactly alike!
@JohnJohn-bz1lq
@JohnJohn-bz1lq 3 года назад
@@andrewpandrew7786 It’s a strong possibility for it to be not The time difference doesn’t add up Mandalorian takes place years after the empire fell This clip Is literally right after The second Death Star Not too long after Inferno squad broke up so it really is Highly unlikely
@JohnJohn-bz1lq
@JohnJohn-bz1lq 3 года назад
@@Turbulation1 yeah Ik Which means they will never meet lmfaooooo
@Orcawhale1
@Orcawhale1 3 года назад
Ever since Disney took over, the Empire and Palpatine have taken a nose dive in IQ. Yeah, let's kill our own systems and troopers, because we couldn't possible need more man power and starships to fight the rebels. When Palpatine decides to show up with the First order..
@bee5440
@bee5440 3 года назад
This was legends stuff, before Disney
@threeofakind9933
@threeofakind9933 3 года назад
@@bee5440 No, Operation Cinder is from the new Battlefront 2, so it's part of Disney Canon.
@Revkor
@Revkor 2 года назад
@@bee5440 nope in legands a negative result of the Senate beign abloished and guys like Tarkin having direct control it prevented the collapse of the Empire. so the now New Republic had to spend decades fighting. Imperial warlords, a cloned Emperor, Thrawn, a 2nd era of Warlords, Dalla, before Peolleon, thrawn's second in command makes peace with the Republic
@Beesleys_World
@Beesleys_World 3 года назад
Me watching it for the first time: “Now there's a man that knows his history.”
@loganmickelson2415
@loganmickelson2415 3 года назад
One more the sith will rule the galaxy and we shall have... Pieces
@kringle1369
@kringle1369 3 года назад
would love to see this in live action series/movie. I’ll watch imperial/empire galactic civil war ALL DAY EVERY DAY
@Shadowkey392
@Shadowkey392 3 года назад
I always love it when film franchises reference their own videogames.
@jakey........
@jakey........ 3 года назад
This is an amazing video we need more videos linking the different Star Wars references and media together
@Prometheus_2931
@Prometheus_2931 3 года назад
honestly love Bill Burr's role in that episode, it's just perfect
@keithw4920
@keithw4920 3 года назад
Star Wars just keeps throwing illogical destruction and new toys at the 'Empire', its getting bloody daft.
@THESnipz
@THESnipz 3 года назад
Completely agree. Don’t like them being evil for no reason. And the cookie cutter, “ the emperor is evil” doesn’t cut it.
@benrussell-gough1201
@benrussell-gough1201 3 года назад
I have to agree. If I were in Kathleen Kennedy's place, I would have vetoed Starkiller Base on the grounds of a policy of "No more superweapons".
@failandia
@failandia 3 года назад
@@THESnipz palpatine is literally a sith lord, and one of the most twisted the galaxy has ever seen. The emperor is evil for no actual reason since minute one of the first movie, the f are you guys smoking ?
@reno.rodolfo3089
@reno.rodolfo3089 3 года назад
@@failandia you know, they want EVERYTHING makes a logic and being complex story everytime. Sometimes I don't understand Star Wars fans
@mr.frenzy7304
@mr.frenzy7304 3 года назад
@@reno.rodolfo3089 that's the reason why i hate the sw community i love the movies but my ghad the fans destroying there franchise
@anthonyzullo
@anthonyzullo 2 года назад
Look, can we just stop for a moment to appreciate that bill burr is just as an amazing of an actor as he is a comedian. Like, I believe him here, his whole episode just felt like him.
@lpg12338
@lpg12338 3 года назад
Outstanding job on the video, subscribed!!!
@user-ez8vq2bj7o
@user-ez8vq2bj7o Месяц назад
"THE EMPIRE IS OUR HOME " now i understand "a home is not a place a home is the people you're with"
@micheljavert5923
@micheljavert5923 3 года назад
Ahhh, good ol’ Galactic Empire. “What’s the best way to defeat the Rebellion? By burning the Loyalist worlds! That’ll show ‘em!” Real weird how the GE under Palpy’s cartoonishly evil dumb ass only lasted a few decades.
@a.jthomas6132
@a.jthomas6132 3 года назад
Can't believe that Battlefront II (2017) can't give us an Empire story fans wanted. :(
@THESnipz
@THESnipz 3 года назад
Yep, another cookie cutter, “empire is evil let’s go join the rebels”.
@benrussell-gough1201
@benrussell-gough1201 3 года назад
Maybe because the Empire *was* evil and the only morally honest thing to do was to join the Rebels?
@a.jthomas6132
@a.jthomas6132 3 года назад
@@THESnipz Star Wars Squadron show the same cookie cutter as well.
@zandrmandr8300
@zandrmandr8300 3 года назад
@@benrussell-gough1201 we want to fight for the empire. Not against it. Battlefront 2 (the original, not ea) let us do it and never turned us against it. We want a loyalist view.
@benrussell-gough1201
@benrussell-gough1201 3 года назад
@@zandrmandr8300 Watch the film "Downfall" for a 'loyalist view'.
@acerogers6573
@acerogers6573 3 года назад
Man I remember when you had 1k views, it's awesome seeing your progression!
@Hound831
@Hound831 3 года назад
This was a big help. Thanks!
@ernestw2474
@ernestw2474 3 года назад
Battlefront II (2017) is a Rebel propaganda game.
@THESnipz
@THESnipz 3 года назад
I agree, I wish they would have been brave and make a game about why people would believe in the empire
@benrussell-gough1201
@benrussell-gough1201 3 года назад
Could you possibly imagine, just imagine, that it may not be possible to believe in the Empire with any moral honesty and the only people who did so by this point were murderous lunatics and bigoted xenophobes?
@Myuutsuu85
@Myuutsuu85 3 года назад
@@benrussell-gough1201 Just think about logicaly. There is literally zero reason to attack those planets, that are loyal to the empire and still in control by it. You just drive them towards the rebellion. Attacking dissidents and destroying valuable planets that are about to be lost to the Alliance, this may be more reasonable but to think that Operation Cinder would be actually a thing, like it is portrait here, is just outright stupid. With this modus operandi, the Empire would have teared itself apart long before Return of the Jedi.
@centenodyllan
@centenodyllan 3 года назад
@@benrussell-gough1201 That’s fine let me play as those xenophobes. I just wanted to be a soldier in the empire
@CaptainRed1000
@CaptainRed1000 3 года назад
@@THESnipz SWTOR does a decent enough job with its recent expansions. Though it isn't the same Empire as the movie's Empire, so maybe that doesn't count.
@johnxina3119
@johnxina3119 3 года назад
"Long Live The Empire"
@ryanmarshall3487
@ryanmarshall3487 2 года назад
As someone who’s watched most of the shows and started the movies at a young age (at 4 years old in 1988), but never played the games, this is great when people can show these tie-in references, it’s beyond appreciated.
@millmilk2566
@millmilk2566 2 года назад
Ya this is really great and I played the game they were on endor during the 2nd death star and they weren't far from the main characters (Han,Chewbacca ect.)
@DarkSaiya-jinXCV
@DarkSaiya-jinXCV 3 года назад
I like how the show references this act from the video game. It gives a different perspective that just one side
@lucasqualls5086
@lucasqualls5086 2 года назад
Palpatine wanting to punish the empire for failing to protect from death only really works if you'll be able to crush defectors due to the cruelty, AND the rebellion, which clearly they were not.
@tinybass8747
@tinybass8747 3 года назад
"The empire's job is to save people from things like operation cinder" bruh did you just not only forget about Alderaan, but that the death star, a planet destroying space station exists.
@margaretroberts4876
@margaretroberts4876 2 года назад
Great Video! Love it!
@loganb7059
@loganb7059 2 года назад
This is one of the few things in the new Disney cannon that I do like. It’s in fact inspired by Adolf Hitler’s orders in the event of his death. The SS leveled infrastructure and burned priceless art in Germany, because, in their twisted perspective, Germany had failed their fuhrer.
@Will-sq3ip
@Will-sq3ip 3 года назад
I completely forgotten about “Operation Cinder”.
@Fulcrox
@Fulcrox 3 года назад
We all wish to forget that idiocy
@CampaignerSC
@CampaignerSC 3 года назад
Once can only hope everyone will forget about this writing failure.
@spacejunk2186
@spacejunk2186 3 года назад
I hoped the writers forgot about it too. Unfotunately, they didn't.
@Nik6644
@Nik6644 3 года назад
@@CampaignerSC how is it a failure exactly? The empire was about to collapse. Scorched earth policy is as old as warfare itself and throwing the galaxy into poverty & disorder is the best thing for a regime that just lost its power (and wants to secretly build up a new one)
@BigCrawdaddy
@BigCrawdaddy 3 года назад
9:30 he doesn’t look angry at all😂
@The-Ent1ty
@The-Ent1ty Год назад
"Hey, so, the rebellion has killed me so burn the absolute fuck outta one of our planets to get back at the rebellion" -palpatine
@trashblob
@trashblob Год назад
One? No. Several Socially and Strategically very Important Planets (Burnin Konn, Candovant, Abednedo, Commenor, Nacronis, Naboo and Vardos) should have been burned down because of Operation Cinder. And the Admiral was not the only one who's task it was to execute it.
@kaan61
@kaan61 3 года назад
This is why i love star wars. Every detail has its own story which is so fucking crazy. This 3minute talk about some operation has a story which takes longer than 15 minutes of story telling. Absolutely mindboggling
@mr.markofski4267
@mr.markofski4267 3 года назад
Before Episode 9: *When your empire fails to protect you so you punish it’s people.* After Episode 9: *When your empire fails to protect you from your fake death so you punish it’s people.*
@krel3358
@krel3358 Год назад
Its almost like none of this was well planned out and the disney tribe are intentionally messing with star wars to demoralize white people.
@VulturePilot
@VulturePilot 3 года назад
And then immediately retconned by TROS lol
@Nimzo25
@Nimzo25 3 года назад
Yeah, though to be fair, the Imperial people perpetrating this didn’t know of Exegol or the fact that Palpatine was studying immortality via his master’s former teachings, hence the cloning process. Still, those who braved the harshest tests of Operation Cinder and survived the Battle of Jakku got to live to fight another day as the First Order. An army vowing to take back the peace and prosperity of the Empire that the Rebellion/New Republic and Mon Mothma destroyed. Turing the planet Illum into Starkiller Base and making more deadly Stormtroopers from Brendol Hux’s Commandant’s Cadets days is a nice first step...
@exploitofdeleted5864
@exploitofdeleted5864 3 года назад
Cool people dont consider the new trilogy canon
@cbrreezzyy69
@cbrreezzyy69 3 года назад
The Disney trilogy is getting de-canonized. The only people who refuse to believe this are the weirdo reylos.
@Nimzo25
@Nimzo25 3 года назад
@@cbrreezzyy69 I ain’t a “Reylo”, I’m more of a First/Final Order to restore the Empire person. The “Reylos” are people who support Rey and Kylo Ren/Ben Solo’s shipping...
@reno.rodolfo3089
@reno.rodolfo3089 3 года назад
@@cbrreezzyy69 what a fanboy you are
@foxyapocalypse6365
@foxyapocalypse6365 2 года назад
Love that sound of the Hyperdrive charging up.
@reynardmisae2518
@reynardmisae2518 2 года назад
Imagine if they made this into a full feature film using the frostbite engine
@gunterdonnerfaust9616
@gunterdonnerfaust9616 2 года назад
I can't help but feel (despite how well done this is, and how epic it honestly is to watch) that the idea is just...ridiculous. Like, shooting your own men in the face for no reason other than to make them fall in line despite the fact that they were already loyal soldiers. "Cutting off your nose to spite your face." I get that it's supposed to be a bad/evil idea but it's so ridiculous that it's just plain stupid for it to even exist IMO. Wouldn't a demonstration of the satellites on a barren world or a hostile world show the exact same thing... it's just kinda stupid, the whole thing, both in the story view and the writing view in my opinion. Why do they gotta make the Empire do tons of batshit stupid stuff to remind everyone "wE'Re eViL"
@Tsugimoto1
@Tsugimoto1 2 года назад
And now you understand in part why the Nazi Regime fell.
@Lucius_Art
@Lucius_Art 2 года назад
Her betraying the empire and the emperor is made more insane for those who have read the inferno squad book. I rolled my eyes so hard playing this game.
@hayleydanhirschfeld4862
@hayleydanhirschfeld4862 Год назад
"The emperor is dead...well sort of...actually hes probably still alive...nvm"
@kbtken
@kbtken Год назад
I have been playing this game for years but never bothered playing the story mode 😂 I watched half of this video and decided to finally give it a chance today
@kirawedderburn
@kirawedderburn 3 года назад
This shows how so many within the Empire have change of hearts. Especially stormtroopers.
@cv_290
@cv_290 3 года назад
Bill burr did such an amazing job in this scene.
@nickf527
@nickf527 2 года назад
Richard Brake as Valin Hess... I would recognize that voice anywhere... That man was born to play villain roles lol
@Jogyot3260
@Jogyot3260 3 года назад
Boy..... Palpatine sure willing to do everything
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