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Manual glide-a-way tailgate on my 1976 Pontiac Grand Safari

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@101Volts
@101Volts 8 лет назад
Thanks for the video, I've never seen the operation of a manual clamshell tailgate before.
@kingofalldoughboys
@kingofalldoughboys 5 лет назад
That's not a manual tailgate. The motor for the tailgate is broken! They were all powered on those wagons. When he turns the switch for the tailgate it only unlocks now. They weren't designed to be shoved down or pulled up like that. The handle he's pulling the tailgate up by was only there in case of motor or battery failure so you could close the tailgate. The window could be closed with a small plastic tool from the inside. This guy is simply an idiot!
@boggy7665
@boggy7665 5 лет назад
@@kingofalldoughboys, you are wrong.
@101Volts
@101Volts 4 года назад
@@kingofalldoughboys To put it as gentlemanly as I possibly can, you are or were unfamiliar with the manual tailgates on these 71 - 76 Clamshell Wagons. They exist, although when I look at different Clamshell Wagons for sale, I usually see the power tailgate more frequently. The window is always automatic, regardless if the tailgate door is automatic or manual.
@kobbetop
@kobbetop 8 лет назад
That is so cool, amazing engineering considering it was the 70's ;-)
@markmiller6844
@markmiller6844 6 лет назад
1969 Aérospatiale/BAC Concorde, 128 passengers, Mach 2, 4000 miles
@edwardpate6128
@edwardpate6128 3 года назад
@@markmiller6844 1969 Apollo 11 lands on the Moon and returns.
@justamusta
@justamusta 3 года назад
@@markmiller6844 I couldn't have said it better myself!
@Zickcermacity
@Zickcermacity 2 года назад
2007 - Introduction of the iPhone. 🤦‍♂️! The '70s ruled!
@schlomoubermann
@schlomoubermann Год назад
Cool but problematic.
@louf7178
@louf7178 6 лет назад
We had a '74 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser; I remember this and recently recalled how convenient these were.
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 3 года назад
We had a ‘72 Olds Custom Cruiser, but it was powered.
@junqueboi387
@junqueboi387 8 лет назад
Excellent explanation and video of an unusual tailgate setup! I have a 1973 Custom Cruiser with the electric gate but it's inop. a 1973 Safari or Grand Safari is one of my bucket list cars. Have a good one.
@toronado455
@toronado455 4 года назад
wow i never knew there were non-power versions of clamshell thanks for the video!!!!
@toronado455
@toronado455 Год назад
@Billy Hamilton thank you
@AlexanderCrump
@AlexanderCrump 5 лет назад
That's why so many of these cars were sold. GM reigned among the Big Three in terms of innovative engineering and attractive designs that families wanted.
@CraigArndt
@CraigArndt 8 лет назад
Pretty complex design, having interlocks and dropping tailgates. Thanks for sharing.
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 8 лет назад
Yea no doubt I was thinkin the same thing. Lol imagine an autobody tech having to deal with that after an accident back in the day!!
@101Volts
@101Volts 8 лет назад
+MrTheHillfolk Back in the day? How about now? a 75 Buick was rear ended last year (not mine.)
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 8 лет назад
+Austin Lucas That's gotta be fun dealing with all that linkage and stuff !
@101Volts
@101Volts 8 лет назад
+MrTheHillfolk The man who owns (owned?) it got the insurance money, kept the wreckage and put it up for sale as a demolition derby car. It's literally cheaper at this point to buy another one, the last time I heard he had his eye on another Buick Clam Wagon local to him.
@grabasandwich
@grabasandwich 7 лет назад
I was a kid when my dad bought a beater 74 Impala wagon, and I thought I remember his tailgate dropping like a friggin rollercoaster! maybe I'm wrong or maybe that was a common problem after they wore out?
@SEATACFLUGHAFEN
@SEATACFLUGHAFEN 7 лет назад
Awesome car! '71-'76 GM full size were always my favorite wagons.
@boggy7665
@boggy7665 4 года назад
Took my driver's test in one. We kept it a long time & it became our 2nd car & I got to drive it regularly. Fabulous interstate cruiser.
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 2 года назад
@@boggy7665 Fabulous demo derby cars too! Yea I know this won't be popular with most of you. They are though! Alot of these wagons were sacrificed for racecar chassis too, as they were the only modern full framed car with leaf springs.
@MichaelOKeefe2009
@MichaelOKeefe2009 4 года назад
It's GM's famous "Clamshell Wagons"!
@discerningmind
@discerningmind 7 лет назад
I never knew there was a manual version of this. Thanks for sharing. Very interesting.
@clyde7059
@clyde7059 7 лет назад
My best friend's mom had a Buick wagon with the power clam-shell, rear door. I thought it was cool, but I was always uncomfortable getting in and out of the back of the car, for fear it would close on me. I had never seen a manual one before; that's pretty cool. Another thing I remember about that Buick wagon is that it had an extremely smooth ride; it was as if it was floating above the street.
@eltonjohn3236
@eltonjohn3236 5 лет назад
Thanks for posting this. I had no idea they operated this way. I'd never noticed the AMC Pacer like wrap around rear windows. That was something for the early 70s.
@dartsport1974
@dartsport1974 2 года назад
Thank you for the video. I was raised in a 74 Chevrolet Caprice Estate wagon. We had the automatic tailgate. I remember seeing somewhere (this was in the late 1970s or early 80s) A person had this manual tailgate and the bottom part slid down real fast instead of operating automatically….I never forgot it. I also noticed on that person’s wagon there were these dials around the key slot which our wagon did not have. Now I finally got to see how this works. It took me 40 years - LOL
@camaro69green31
@camaro69green31 4 года назад
So many memories.... thanks for sharing. I grew up with a 76 Pontiac grand safari..... I remember, as a kid, working that clam shell tailgate so many times.
@chrisjohnston7035
@chrisjohnston7035 3 года назад
Interesting I did not even know they made a manual version, only have ever seen the power versions.. Thanks.
@georgemallory797
@georgemallory797 3 года назад
We had a red '73 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser with woodgrain. Ours had the power back door. Our miniature Schnauzer jumped out the back window with her leash on while we were rolling down a residential street. Luckily it was fastened to the inside somewhere, but left her dangling for a few horrifying seconds by her neck. I was aghast at that scene from Vacation because it happened to us 9 years earlier!
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 2 года назад
Omg God yes, that dog Dinky!!! 😱
@robertdeal9553
@robertdeal9553 5 лет назад
I had the '73 Catalina version, I bought it in the mid 80's as they were still around. That Tailgate was the coolest thing I'd ever seen or had . My car had lots of rust , but the tailgate never failed me. with both forward seats down the back was 5 x 9 ' . The only issue with the model was if it got rear ended and the tracks messed up, it could not be fixed. I sure wished this kind of thing came back
@racer67
@racer67 5 лет назад
60s n early 70s wagons are so awsome!! Im trying to find one to add to my collection!
@Phonejag1
@Phonejag1 3 года назад
I didn’t even know they MADE a manual one.., I had never seen one before... I guess I had seen mostly just Oldsmobiles and Buick’s and a few Chevys... but all had the dual electric tailgate. And I thought all of them were that way. Now I’m smarter than I was just a few minutes ago! Thanks for sharing!
@steves4639
@steves4639 3 года назад
thx for showing the manual version...you generally only see the power version. I wonder if the average 70's housewife was able to manhandle that tailgate as it looks to take a little upper body strength to yank it up. conversely, I also wonder if the power version could be opened at all manually, if the motor failed. good stuff!
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 2 года назад
Pretty sure you were screwed once the power gate quit working
@andyhamilton8940
@andyhamilton8940 Год назад
Had a 76 Caprice wagon. All the mechanisms for the glass lift were shot. I used to wedge a piece of rubber from an old traffic cone base between the roof and the window glass th keep it closed tight!
@gabesgarden57
@gabesgarden57 5 лет назад
I have a 1973 Pontiac Catalina safari with an electric tailgate that still works
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 3 года назад
That’s cool! Do you have pictures?
@gabesgarden57
@gabesgarden57 3 года назад
@@patrickflohe7427 yes I have pictures but I can't send them on a youtube comment.
@ronbrock6153
@ronbrock6153 3 года назад
Wow, I had no idea how many safety and features the clam shells had.
@billdescoteaux
@billdescoteaux 2 года назад
That's the first manual one of those I ever saw! My '74 Chevy Impala wagon had the fully-automatic gate.
@keith536
@keith536 3 года назад
Thanks for showing this.. Most are the electric opening/closing. As a kid in the 70's I only saw the electric.
@JonsGarage89
@JonsGarage89 8 лет назад
That is awesome!
@gwgdog66
@gwgdog66 2 года назад
When I was a kid, we had an early 70's Pontiac Wagon like this, I can’t remember if the 3rd row rear seat faced forward or back.
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 2 года назад
They were forward facing
@bluesharp59
@bluesharp59 5 лет назад
Very nice car, I love the old wagons.
@PreGameler
@PreGameler 4 года назад
Amazing design so futureristic
@samurai1833
@samurai1833 3 года назад
That's awesome, so practical and useful.
@notpurple
@notpurple 6 лет назад
that was awesome!!! thanks for sharing!
@johanbrand8601
@johanbrand8601 3 года назад
Super exciting and so cool! Thank you for sharing this.
@yossarian6799
@yossarian6799 Год назад
Fun fact: all Buick, Oldsmobile and US-market Pontiac "clamshell" wagons were made at GM's Fairfax plant near Kansas City.
@Nicole19989
@Nicole19989 2 месяца назад
Shut up
@TIGERSDFW
@TIGERSDFW 2 года назад
Clamshell's are aweeome ! 5500 pounds of rolling thunder !!!
@kerryincolumbus
@kerryincolumbus 7 лет назад
I WANT ONE!! neatest thing ever!
@claytonwhitacre1335
@claytonwhitacre1335 8 лет назад
Pretty cool! I love old GM stuff.
@alterman156channel
@alterman156channel 3 года назад
GM had some interesting engineering ideas in those days. The clamshell "Glide-A-Way" tailgate was one of them.
@neiltitmus9744
@neiltitmus9744 Год назад
Looks like a right faf
@1983jblack
@1983jblack 4 года назад
It was a good thought but I never cared for it. It was more convenient to have a door that could drop down like a tailgate to give extra room if needed
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 3 года назад
That style made it harder to reach in and grab things,
@1983jblack
@1983jblack 3 года назад
@@patrickflohe7427 True but it gave overhang in case of extra long items
@rorybellamy2533
@rorybellamy2533 5 лет назад
I remember one gate that open down , or swung open to the side, that clam was real cool
@gsxellence
@gsxellence Месяц назад
That's cool. I feel that manual would be a better investment over the; less parts to fail over time.
@sonictimm
@sonictimm 7 месяцев назад
That's so cool!
@mrtodd3620
@mrtodd3620 4 года назад
Considering how heavy the tailgate is, it seemed to go up pretty easily.
@boggy7665
@boggy7665 5 лет назад
The drop-away door must have had some kind of counterweight mechanism. I remember these, learned to drive on one. We had it for 10 years. I remember the curb weight was right around 5000 lbs. '73 Impala with the 400 small block. 9 passengers. Saw a RU-vid demo of the 3rd seat in a '76. I recall the one in the '73 was more elaborate. The seat cushion in the '73 covered the cabbage and it dropped away when you folded the back down. In the '76, it was cut away over the cabbage and fixed in position, didn't move when you folded the back down. So maybe in '73 they were '9 passengers' and in '76 they were '8 passengers'?
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 3 года назад
Cutaway over the cabbage????
@boggy7665
@boggy7665 3 года назад
@@patrickflohe7427 Our '73 had a cushion that covered the hump over the rear diff., and the seat bottom retracted when we folded the seatback; in the vid of the '76, the cushion was cut away & it did not retract when he folded the seatback.
@boggy7665
@boggy7665 3 года назад
@@patrickflohe7427 'cabbage' = rear differential. It's round and about the size of a cabbage.
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 3 года назад
@@boggy7665, Okay, I get it now. I’ve never referred to as that, but I’ve heard the term “pumpkin” used when referring to the differential.
@americanaforever6725
@americanaforever6725 Год назад
Awesome!!
@Husky1980
@Husky1980 3 года назад
Not as exciting as the electric ones, but I imagine these lasted longer?
@TairnKA
@TairnKA 3 года назад
That's a kewl setup, it must have been a bit difficult for the Designers/Engineers to explain that system to their upper management and beancounters. ;-) It sounds like the track needs some maintenance?
@rgolab3174
@rgolab3174 Год назад
This must have been designed by the same people who designed the first space ship.
@tewfiks1
@tewfiks1 8 лет назад
I am restoring our 73 Pontiac Grand Safari wagon and I can not get the tailgate window to function. Do you have any literature on the repair of the clam shell tailgate? Thanks
@101Volts
@101Volts 8 лет назад
Check the Station Wagon Forum, there's probably something there. If you can't find it by searching the forum you can register, introduce yourself and ask about it. I'm a member there, people there own these cars (though not me at this time, I never had one so far) and will gladly answer your question.
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 3 года назад
I’m sure someone has a manual with the electrical schematic, but I’m betting it’s either a bad switch or chaffed wiring. Follow the wires & look for damage.
@davidallen5776
@davidallen5776 Год назад
Most every wagon built on either side of 1971-76 would have a conventional tailgate!
@brent6518
@brent6518 3 года назад
My dad had a 74 like this.. unfortunately the power window was finiky at times and wouldn't move!
@wonniewarrior
@wonniewarrior 3 года назад
I bet you could hide a whole body in the rear quarter wells itself.
@j.frankparnell3087
@j.frankparnell3087 11 месяцев назад
When I was a kid we had a 73 Caprice Estate wagon with the powered gates. My crushed guitar case can attest to the lack of safety features as shown on this manual version. At least I didn't have to keep going to those stupid guitar lessons.
@MikeGuy993
@MikeGuy993 8 лет назад
Cool to see!
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 2 года назад
Is the wagon in this video a Pontiac? I thought Chevy was the only version that offered a manual tailgate.
@pl5624
@pl5624 5 лет назад
Slight problem if the rear bumper ever gets bent in....
@101Volts
@101Volts 2 года назад
Slight? I saw a forum post in 2015 or so about a 75 that got rear-ended by a drunk while parked, and the owner just got the insurance money and put the shell up for sale after stripping its parts.
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 2 года назад
Fun fact on these is that the rear bumper doesn't attach to the frame, it attaches to the body. Big trouble in a rear hit. The frame ends right at the rear leaf spring mount to leave room for that wonky tailgate.
@carolmaccarolynraea..3153
@carolmaccarolynraea..3153 Год назад
Seems you could've wiped some of the dirt away before
@robertgsmith5761
@robertgsmith5761 3 года назад
When the nylon gear ⚙️ in the roof wears out you have a nightmare finding another one and another nightmare trying to find someone to install it. Why not use brass ? The reason is that GM wants it to break down !
@themagicboy6548
@themagicboy6548 4 года назад
sounds like the mechanism needs some lubrication
@MichaelOKeefe2009
@MichaelOKeefe2009 7 лет назад
Is there a manual way to open the glass part of the tailgate if the motor fails?
@louf7178
@louf7178 6 лет назад
Michael O'Keefe As far as I know, no.
@jjbowler8864
@jjbowler8864 6 лет назад
The window motor turns a cable and you can disconnect motor and connect drill to cable. reverse the drill direction to make window go the other way. The motor is in bottom of spare tire well.
@pl5624
@pl5624 3 года назад
That gate can't be very thick.
@steves9905
@steves9905 2 месяца назад
as a man I would rather have the manual gate...less stuff to go wrong. but i don't see a housewife of 1976 with fingernails managing that gate very well
@jasongomez5344
@jasongomez5344 5 лет назад
So you had to pay extra to have the bottom door motorised?
@LynolsOffice
@LynolsOffice 5 лет назад
That's right! I think it was $50 or $100 extra for the power gate.
@kevinlynch1227
@kevinlynch1227 5 лет назад
We had a 76 Grand Safari. The power tailgate cost $56 and the third row seat cost $159.
@jasoncarpp7742
@jasoncarpp7742 5 лет назад
Shouldn't the window go all the way up? This one didn't seem to want to do that.
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 3 года назад
He stopped it early.
@davidpowellseattle
@davidpowellseattle Год назад
Lube it. That is all.
@aleksinfroid4644
@aleksinfroid4644 2 года назад
No wonder most of them were derby cars.
@elmowilson298
@elmowilson298 5 лет назад
No hinges in early 70s' wagons
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 2 года назад
1970 did
@Flampcakes
@Flampcakes 2 года назад
that is so fucking cool
@michaelwhite2823
@michaelwhite2823 Год назад
OMG the poor people version. Just buy a power tailgate people!
@victorialouden1912
@victorialouden1912 5 лет назад
try not to do that to much with out the car running cause you will burn out the motor. I'm a glass installer 34 years I know.
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 3 года назад
You do get more power with the engine running....
@victorialouden1912
@victorialouden1912 5 лет назад
one big piece of shit!! that glass in no longer avaliable it hasn't been since the 80's
@rwsales
@rwsales 4 года назад
Ford wagons were way better. No battery power to gain access to the load floor! Imagine your hands are full in a rain storm? Snow? Wind? Any combination?
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 3 года назад
BAHAHAHA Whatever.
@johneckert1365
@johneckert1365 2 года назад
Pros & cons with all 3 of the big 3's wagons. GM & Chrysler full-size wagons knocked the hell out of those Ford Country Squires! Only 71-76 for GM though. The other years were pretty weak too. A rust free Chrysler wagon was from the mid 50's on up. Especially the 60 n up unibody ones. Omg imagine if there was an Imperial wagon 😱
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