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Andrew Mahone discusses optimal shuffling techniques for the Pokemon Trading Card Game. Then, Andrew Mahone shows how to perform a riffle and a bridge shuffle maneuver with sleeved Pokemon Cards.
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@IlluminatedGame
@IlluminatedGame 4 года назад
24 full minutes of watching someone shuffle Just like my oppenents at tournaments..
@jaysefgames1155
@jaysefgames1155 4 года назад
Net ball, pokegear 3.0, net ball, jirachi, Cynthia, poke com, elm, floral path
@christopherprinster5815
@christopherprinster5815 3 года назад
Savage.
@nickschleiff896
@nickschleiff896 2 года назад
I'm in this picture and I don't like it
@m.greenfield6328
@m.greenfield6328 6 лет назад
this style is optimal because your opponent will be on tilt whenever you shuffle
@jefelofton8679
@jefelofton8679 6 лет назад
In favor of the mash shuffling technique, as a commander/EDH Magic: the Gathering player, trying to ruffle a 100 card deck is quite painful and slow. As well as it's an unspoken rule to, while mash shuffling, to look away from the decks while shuffling
@Bluecrimson217
@Bluecrimson217 6 лет назад
I hear you on this, but then again I'm the madman that double sleeved all of my commander decks as pretty much all my play happens at card shops.
@alexcorona
@alexcorona 6 лет назад
As a collector this video breaks my heart.
@Dhilan100
@Dhilan100 6 лет назад
This is what annoys me about people using secret rare cards when playing in tournaments.
@gumballgb
@gumballgb 6 лет назад
Oh, then you've never seen Christian Moreno shuffle before. He'll turn a NM card into a MP card by the end of a tournament
@Dragonor999
@Dragonor999 6 лет назад
KingCrowZ it's there cards, so deal with it
@manofleipe
@manofleipe 6 лет назад
Cards were made to be played with.
@PoKeKidMPK1
@PoKeKidMPK1 6 лет назад
Edward Chen you say that but you have trouble dealing with logical comments, its a sign of marking cards since its damage.
@uoDucks6
@uoDucks6 5 лет назад
If anyone ever riffle shuffles my deck I'm charging them 20$
@tzera_rhuon
@tzera_rhuon 4 года назад
20$ per foil card 😁
@aile_20
@aile_20 4 года назад
Rebecca C 20$ for each card😁
@gavink.9539
@gavink.9539 4 года назад
I don’t really like the comment but you are so one of the only people to not say rifle shuffle so frick it have a like.
@EliWargo
@EliWargo 4 года назад
I'll charge someone their whole pokémon card collection
@paulolsen2197
@paulolsen2197 3 года назад
I don't know how to mash shuffle, those people use witchcraft.
@aberomoa5149
@aberomoa5149 Год назад
I've been exclusively Mash Shuffling for well over a decade. As some people have already pointed out, it's an unspoken rule to just look away while mash shuffling. Also, to avoid 1 card over another situation, allow the bottom pile to spread out a bit before mashing in the upper half. This should make it so that some cards stick together, adding to the randomness of the technique. Doing this 7-8 times should be enough to give you a good randomized deck. As for when it seems like your opponent didn't shuffle well enough, I always ask for me to do a final cut, where I divide the deck into 3-4 piles before putting it back together. I do not claim by any means that these steps will guarantee a fully randomized deck, but they're what I do to avoid riffle Shuffling and damaging my cards or my opponent's.
@mindustrial
@mindustrial 6 лет назад
You should've sleeved half the deck in different colored sleeves to give a better example. Besides that, awesome video and awesome hints to spot those fake cheat shuffles.
@Cybno
@Cybno 6 лет назад
Having 2 different colors for plain sleeves in a deck is illegal.
@mindustrial
@mindustrial 6 лет назад
Oh really? I didn't knew. I never was caught by a judge in the past 20 years of playing TCG's for marking my resource cards in yellow sleeves and my other cards in black. It's what @Topegi TCG says; for the demonstration it would've been better so people can really see the randomization in the stack of cards, rather than only seeing the cards being shuffled. I've had discussions many times, even while playing Hold 'em Poker that riffle shuffles were bad and not good for the deck.
@ferrosplice8460
@ferrosplice8460 4 года назад
@@mindustrial What the fuck? Either your judges are literally blind or you play in some shitty place to allow you to mark your resource cards.
@RockerBen
@RockerBen 4 года назад
@@ferrosplice8460 It appears to be sarcasm.
@kep2871
@kep2871 4 года назад
FerroSplice r/wooosh
@noahtetreault3859
@noahtetreault3859 6 лет назад
I'd call myself a casual player, I do sell cards that I'm not currently using in my deck. So condition is kind of a priority for me. What I do, is I put my thumbs on the top corners of the sleeves and riffle shuffle, and I haven't had any problems with damaging my cards since! The only thing to be careful of, is at longer tournaments, and doing that over and over, I usually leave with scratched up thumbs.
@thornedcannon4474
@thornedcannon4474 4 года назад
No doubt , sometimes I end long rounds with some skin peeling off my thumbs I riffle shuffle really hard
@sawyerstrub7340
@sawyerstrub7340 3 года назад
I don’t mind condition but I do sell things I am not using
@Sindragozer
@Sindragozer 6 лет назад
5:27 With that extended "Sooome" my head instantly filled in "body once told me the world was gonna roll me" Now I have that meme of a song stuck in my head.
@cesarromero9788
@cesarromero9788 4 года назад
Sindragozer related
@ephus9347
@ephus9347 3 года назад
It’s the perfect note too 😂. I’ve watched that part like 5 times
@wren5413
@wren5413 5 лет назад
As a semi-competitive Yugioh player who is looking at videos from other Tcgs it’s actually very interesting to watch this. In Yugioh Riffle shuffles are frowned upon and are the sign of the heavy casual. Pile Shuffling is the only competitive form of shuffling. No one wants to bend their 60$ Ash Blossoms or their 80$ Infinite Impermanences. Also you mash shuffle upside down, that’s why you can see the whole deck, if you shuffle Sleeve-Side up you can’t actually see your cards
@saimandarkbesthuntardever5168
@saimandarkbesthuntardever5168 2 года назад
i come late to the party, but, waterfall shuffling imo is the best method overall for competitive yugioh, you randomize everything and avoid ruining your staples in the process
@wren5413
@wren5413 2 года назад
@@saimandarkbesthuntardever5168 But… waterfall shuffling isnt shuffling… its just a card trick… the cards remain in the same order
@saimandarkbesthuntardever5168
@saimandarkbesthuntardever5168 2 года назад
@@wren5413 you spread the cards each other in the middle, i did that with sorted cards by same copies and the result was completely randomized in the end try this way but don't loose your grip too much to avoid showing the cards to your opponent ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tsFBC2Wq5mU.html
@wren5413
@wren5413 2 года назад
@@saimandarkbesthuntardever5168 Thats just mash shuffling with extra steps…
@saimandarkbesthuntardever5168
@saimandarkbesthuntardever5168 2 года назад
@@wren5413 well, it worked for me anyways, pile shuffling just stacks your cards, doesn't randomize anything
@Juhheli
@Juhheli 6 лет назад
I believe that the study was made on a 52 card deck
@piotrgebocki6444
@piotrgebocki6444 3 года назад
that's because after setting up 6 prizes, active pokemon + 7 in hand your deck is lower than even 50 cards
@michaelashbrook3195
@michaelashbrook3195 2 года назад
@@piotrgebocki6444 active comes from the 7 in your hand. not active plus 7
@lycanzone
@lycanzone 2 года назад
@@michaelashbrook3195 draw for turn maybe
@mellowasiam
@mellowasiam 2 года назад
@@piotrgebocki6444 what's in your hand and prizes should be random as well. More cards = more randomization needed
@ThisOldSkater
@ThisOldSkater 6 лет назад
YAY! THE SHUFFLE VIDEO! What a great birthday present!
@ThisOldSkater
@ThisOldSkater 6 лет назад
So I was watching how my cards slipped together during a mash shuffle and the interleave seemed to vary. Sometimes 1-1,1-2 or even 1-3 interleave. I'm at a loss as to how this is different from riffling since that seems to be the main thing riffling has going for it. I keep my cards fairly loose when I do it, so that's probably why I was seeing such variety in interleave.
@pNut21838
@pNut21838 3 месяца назад
He also makes the argument that when mash shuffling you might not get even piles of cards in each hand before you mash shuffle. My question is (just like you) how is that any different than riffle shuffling? Wouldn't you still have the possibility of having uneven stacks? I would love to meet the person that can perfectly cut a deck of cards every single time.
@vatsalyasoni8324
@vatsalyasoni8324 3 года назад
love the sound of riffle shuffle
@kapfiXD
@kapfiXD 6 лет назад
I recommend practicing this with normal playing cards for poker or such so your cards dont get destroyed while you learn the tequnique!
@Kayso789
@Kayso789 2 года назад
Too late, my sleeves and psychic Pokemon are now Ws
@Sindragozer
@Sindragozer 6 лет назад
7:51 when that happens, what you do is take the group of cards that didn't get mixed in, and push/shuffle that pack down into push them into the main chunk the same way. If you do that, it becomes more random even faster than riffle shuffling.
@justinwindhorst9109
@justinwindhorst9109 Год назад
Awesome coverage, Thanks so much!
@elementalhereos8561
@elementalhereos8561 6 лет назад
This was something I never considered thx so much for the info andrew!
@BevLord
@BevLord 6 лет назад
Ripple shuffling is so painful to watch 😂
@jackoboys
@jackoboys 6 лет назад
Swift Limited no its not
@fantacer
@fantacer 6 лет назад
KK Sitanggang yes it is
@Kserflame
@Kserflame 6 лет назад
Riffle
@crystalqueen9711
@crystalqueen9711 6 лет назад
It's because it fucks up cards
@crystalqueen9711
@crystalqueen9711 6 лет назад
You can't shotgun shuffle without fucking up your cards
@jeremysfiregym1757
@jeremysfiregym1757 4 года назад
12:55... My heart broke. My Opponent: "You should really riffle shuffle... Its the best way to get proper randomization" Me: "You should eat a hot plate of shut the hell up"
@thornedcannon4474
@thornedcannon4474 4 года назад
Lol
@AveryGuitar
@AveryGuitar 4 года назад
Fr tho.
@Gangstagonzo3
@Gangstagonzo3 6 лет назад
Thank you Mahone for the amazing Christmas gift! At last I can stop being a turtle while shuffling
@seba7exe
@seba7exe Год назад
Thank you, Andrew. I just start playing 3 months ago and next weekend will be my first tournament. Shuffling has been very difficult to me and this video helped me a lot
@ThisOldSkater
@ThisOldSkater 6 лет назад
When I mash shuffle, I do a cut, mash then I take about 1/3 of the top and mash into the middle, 1/3 off the bottom and mash, then cards from the middle and mash, then cut mash one more time. While I mash, I always do so into my left hand with the cards facing to the left and tilted downward so no one can see the card's faces. As far as riffle, goes, yes I want to preserve my cards, but mostly, despite practice, I can't seem to do it without flinging cards everywhere.
@TheGauges420
@TheGauges420 6 лет назад
Number Six see i can mash shuffle and get the same randomness as riffle, the trade-off is, it ruins my sleeves. Over and over the corners break from forcing them in... But riffle shuffle ruins the cards unless youre super careful, so i just take my time while doing it, and dont do a big bridge at all. I dont have a single bent card and i sometimes shuffle them just to keep myself from being bored lmfao.
@ThisOldSkater
@ThisOldSkater 6 лет назад
That's the main reason I like the gloss Dragon Shield. You don't have to use much force at all to mash.
@antwon3803
@antwon3803 6 лет назад
Finally thank you so much for this video andrew!!!
@polymerization9534
@polymerization9534 6 лет назад
Thanks man I was really curious about this
@marcelindupraz144
@marcelindupraz144 6 лет назад
If I may allow myself, it is 7 shuffles for a normal deck of 52 cards. So 7 kind of makes sense when you have 60 cards at the beginning of the game, less when you reach the end
@TrickyGym
@TrickyGym 6 лет назад
Good point! i usually do between 3-5 as the game progresses
@Grimmbaessu
@Grimmbaessu 6 лет назад
I've just started the game and I mash shuffle. I shuffle big piles, smaller piles, and half piles. I try to keep it as random as possible and I always look away from my deck. If someone riffled my deck I think I would cry.
@peachyteatime9441
@peachyteatime9441 6 лет назад
These are the kind of videos that no other channel can do as well as you guys. More of these would be amazingly helpful. Maybe a possible topic would be optimal deck building or even calling the meta of a larger tournament.
@jordanamaley1332
@jordanamaley1332 6 лет назад
You should explain the positives and negatives of double sleeving (perfect fits and regulars or outer sleeves too) and the effects it has on shuffling.
@Synisterjames
@Synisterjames 6 лет назад
I typically dont riffle because of the card damage potential but also because I use Ultimate Guard sleeves and they dont really riffle well at all. I mass shuffle but I always have my deck face down and I typically dont look at my deck when I shuffle.
@octorok
@octorok 3 года назад
Doesn’t riffle shuffling suffer from the same problem as mash shuffling if you have uneven piles? It’s probably less susceptible to it and only really would happen if they were super uneven, but still would be an issue. Also, you can still stack the deck with riffle shuffles, so it’s something to watch out for. It’s super easy for someone to always have the bottom card drop first or the top drop last, which allows them to keep it there.
@daddyascii9040
@daddyascii9040 Год назад
it doesnt, they just demonstrated that 7:29 , with riffle you mix the entire two halves, with mash theres a pile that isnt mixed at all
@AdzPower
@AdzPower 6 лет назад
The riffle looks great and is the best for randomizing but I will never do it, I want to protect my sleeves and cards. I didn't invest in a deck of cards only to have them destroyed. Especially when some of them cost so much.
@hex263
@hex263 6 лет назад
AdzPower well clearly you don't care about being competitive
@jelcoleys8087
@jelcoleys8087 6 лет назад
You don't destroy your cards.
@learei4642
@learei4642 6 лет назад
Maybe if you knew how to ripple shuffle correctly you wouldn't destroy your cards
@AdzPower
@AdzPower 6 лет назад
Did you watch the whole video? He takes cards out the sleeve to show how damaged they've gotten from his shuffling.
@learei4642
@learei4642 6 лет назад
Yeah I did but if you know how to ripple shuffle correctly they won't get damaged
@gamermanthegamer
@gamermanthegamer 6 лет назад
i mash shuffle to not damage my cards, and don't really care what my opponent thinks because they are always free to shuffle my deck instead of cut. i always shuffle my opponents deck so i'm not stacked against.
@ThisOldSkater
@ThisOldSkater 6 лет назад
So I've been thinking about this a bit and here's my 2 cents in favor of both riffle and card preservation. If Pokemon produces cards that they know are going to have high after market value because they are required to play at a high level but also want to encourage fair play (at least through proper shuffling) and accessibility, then why don't they allow proxies for those cards if you can present them as being in your possession? Make is so you have to check the cards in for them to hold so people don't just keep presenting the same physical cards over and over again. It seems like you could use the Lele from the Worlds decks to proxy for the real thing as long as you use sleeves with opaque backs.
@matthewedwards4978
@matthewedwards4978 6 лет назад
Great video. Painful to watch, but still a great video. Thank you for all the videos you do.
@andrewp6738
@andrewp6738 2 года назад
Thanks for this video, many months later. I grinded this shit out and learned to riffle in one week, just in time for my first regional
@TheRedFist92
@TheRedFist92 3 года назад
Thanks for your insight.
@isaacnewton8935
@isaacnewton8935 6 лет назад
Could you do a vidio on sleeves I prefer eclipse sleeves but I want to know which is say, smoother shuffler, protects the cards etc. and your opinion.
@allistercain6591
@allistercain6591 5 лет назад
Mash shuffling is my preferred method because it’s effective without damaging my expensive deck. When a Modern deck cost well over a grand I’m not about to bend my cards period. Mash shuffle faced down 10 times is good enough for me.
@yelahero3003
@yelahero3003 6 лет назад
Many people have full arts in their decks so I would never riffle shuffle. It's pretty painful to watch specially if kids have full art lele's. I mash shuffle and then offer my opponent to shuffle as well.
@generations2379
@generations2379 6 лет назад
I have two full arts in my deck so I try to shuffle carefully whenever I use something like ultra ball
@emeraldblaziken
@emeraldblaziken 3 года назад
I riffle shuffled my pokemon cards like playing cards and my opponent looked at me weird. (I dont have sleeves) ps. I regret doing this
@lukeharrison6711
@lukeharrison6711 6 лет назад
Great vid Andrew! What do you think about Alolan Nine tales/Zoruark?
@19rayrayray90
@19rayrayray90 Год назад
i think it also comes to what kind of sleeves you are using. some sleeves are good for mesh, some good for riffle, etc.
@bernieswim
@bernieswim 6 лет назад
This helped me a lot. I'm preparing for my first tcg regionals and I'm trying to learn whatever I can before I get there.
@alcreamiemaster7293
@alcreamiemaster7293 2 года назад
Did you win?
@bernieswim
@bernieswim 2 года назад
@@alcreamiemaster7293 I won sometimes!
@alcreamiemaster7293
@alcreamiemaster7293 2 года назад
@@bernieswim that's decent then, do you still play
@makedaevilmage
@makedaevilmage 6 лет назад
This has been a great video! Still trying to get the riffle shuffeling down tho ... I tried the bridge, but I'm still not sure how that works ...
@ace101guy
@ace101guy 3 года назад
Thanks for the video. Where did you get that play mat
@acegameboy6232
@acegameboy6232 6 лет назад
this makes me cry dat Turanator is so beautiful and to see it in pain it just breaks meh heart
@BIG-Z46
@BIG-Z46 6 лет назад
Hey Andrew, whats your opinion on hindu shuffling? Do you feel its a shady way to shuffle? Do you feel its an effective way to randomize your deck? Im curious what your take is on it
@jacobtnp4906
@jacobtnp4906 6 лет назад
yay a shuffling video! thanks for the tips Andrew! PS nice job at Memphis!
@travishoppins2816
@travishoppins2816 2 года назад
I mash shuffle but I grab from the bottom first then the top then the bottom and so on so on about 5 to 6 times. I'm very picky about shuffling and I have to know that it's being randomized
@dsmoosecountry
@dsmoosecountry 3 года назад
Curious how he does the move with his hand of cards while playing, where he brings each card on top of the other very quickly.
@bamweasel
@bamweasel 6 лет назад
I'll pile shuffle and take each pile, mash shuffle it, and introduce a new pile one at a time into the mash. I make sure to hold the bottom of the deck toward my hand as to not look at the cards and watch the back closely in the off chance that I drop one or flip one upside down by mistake.
@AS-pv1xr
@AS-pv1xr 5 лет назад
Good video, took two minutes before I saw any shuffling. But I like watching your videos. You always sound like you know what you’re talking about
@johnmorton6229
@johnmorton6229 6 лет назад
Can anyone explain the bridge a little better? I can get them bent the right way, but they just stick there and don't "spring up" as it was mentioned in the video. What am I doing wrong here?
@malikahussain7861
@malikahussain7861 6 месяцев назад
where can I buy that playmat in the background of the video?
@GettinJiggly
@GettinJiggly 4 года назад
Love that playmat
@doc-t-8648
@doc-t-8648 6 лет назад
I dont riffle because i suck at it and dont want to bend my cards. I mash only but i do understand its limitations. To combat those limitations I mash a couple times quickly then cut a few times then mash a couple times then cut a few times etc then present my deck to my opponent.
@a_kid1238
@a_kid1238 5 лет назад
Thank you so much
@IshaanL
@IshaanL 6 лет назад
I had seen yourvShining Genesect /Venasaur vs you Buzzwole/Lycanroc match. In that match you shuffled like a BOSS! I hardly play matches so I just do the normal sideways shuffle. (I don't know what's it called)
@FranciscoJaviier
@FranciscoJaviier 6 лет назад
Nice video thank you
@benschreib5375
@benschreib5375 2 года назад
If riffling 7 times is perfect randomization does that mean the bottom card of the deck on shuffle 1 is as likely to end up on top of the deck as anywhere else? Cuz I don’t see how it can get there
@Hawkfreeze
@Hawkfreeze 6 лет назад
I can only do the matte shuffle, because I have a disability that affects my coordination, so I cannot riffle shuffle. What would you suggest for someone like me?
@theluckyloafer
@theluckyloafer 2 года назад
I’ve often wondered, like especially for the big tournament settings like worlds, why isn’t there a 3rd party shuffler?
@crystalqueen9711
@crystalqueen9711 6 лет назад
_Why Riffle Shuffle when I can Riffle Stack_ Also, that's a Shotgun Shuffle, it fucks up your cards, and unlike Yugioh and Magic, knowing what your cards are through the sleeves (From the bends) can in fact give you information that you shouldn't have, and influence your plays and (what should be) random decisions
@chaosgallade2331
@chaosgallade2331 6 лет назад
I haven't played the physical Pokemon TCG in years and haven't played Yu-Gi-Oh as often as I would've liked, but I don't use riffle shuffling on trading cards because I'm paranoid of damaging the cards themselves too quickly.
@Throk
@Throk 3 года назад
Hello! :) Where can I get that cards sleeves? Thank you! :D
@Eddy04tv
@Eddy04tv 11 месяцев назад
Great video. Got a lot of interesting pointers on shuffling. Not sure if I like the idea of Riffle Shuffling, due to card damage. If it was other type of cards I wouldn't mind doing Riffle. Great hints on Cheat Shuffles. Now I know what to avoid and be aware others can cheat during shuffle.
@Croagunk.Collector
@Croagunk.Collector 11 месяцев назад
5 years later and this thumbnail still gives me agita
@FrEzNoGriZzLY
@FrEzNoGriZzLY 6 лет назад
Another legit video as usual, best competitive Pokémon channel on RU-vid by far. Thanks for this. I’d love to see a intro to strategy type video..stuff you wanna do to set up and how to look into the future turns...stuff like that.
@joshuakeene6471
@joshuakeene6471 6 лет назад
Good job Andrew
@dioltas8780
@dioltas8780 Год назад
mash shuffle with the back of the card facing away from your palm so you can't see the bottom card, and do it at a downwards angle so the stack you pick up isn't visible at all either
@tzera_rhuon
@tzera_rhuon 4 года назад
Rip attempting to riffle-shuffle a 100-card Commander deck in mtg with my tiny hands.
@Whodatwhathappen
@Whodatwhathappen 4 года назад
Rebecca C thats cool and all, but i don't remember asking
@ephus9347
@ephus9347 3 года назад
Bruh it’s supposed to be funny because you are supposed to imagine trying to ruffle shuffle a 100 card deck.
@Whodatwhathappen
@Whodatwhathappen 3 года назад
E P H U S 😂😂😂
@jaxu
@jaxu 3 года назад
I am a seniors and i can riffle a double sleeved 100 cards
@TheKodyhawk254
@TheKodyhawk254 6 лет назад
Man I can't riffle shuffle to save my life. So if we play in Dallas feel free to riffle my deck for the cut or what not. Not gonna hurt my feelings or cards.
@Jasoro7
@Jasoro7 6 лет назад
I am more of a collector and usually would rather mass shuffle but you made since with what you said. So I am going to start riffle shuffling to be not courteous to other players. Also try to buy the cards I like to keep.
@FancySandyBrawl
@FancySandyBrawl 8 месяцев назад
I remembered a segment on sleeves
@J-Vasa
@J-Vasa 6 лет назад
In casino we spread cards all over the table and mess them all up for 30 seconds per deck that we shuffle. collect them in then riffle shuffle twice, then strip thr cards take quater like a 6th of the deck from top and put it down then 6th from bottom then 6th from top then 6th from bottom etc. Then riffle twice again.
@clintscott8950
@clintscott8950 4 года назад
What sleeves are you using? Looking to buy some.
@TheDustyPeaches
@TheDustyPeaches 2 года назад
Riffle shuffling is fine at tournaments but I have had opponents take the bending too far because they realized they would lose. Thus far spiteful players have destroyed over $1000 of my cards with zero recourse. Also I have once had a card spitefully bent only for that player to inform his friend about the bent card having me be disqualified in the finals at my LGS for having a "Marked Card". If you play in a competitive setting where there is risk of a spiteful opponent a method of recourse for damage to a card. I have had full folds of my cards by an opponent only to say it was an accident. Not only destroying often times a $35 card but also making my deck no longer tournament legal.
@koyomii9647
@koyomii9647 4 года назад
Where do you buy that kind TCG plastic case for pokemon cards
@UMAMITORA
@UMAMITORA 6 лет назад
which sleeves would you consider the easiest to shuffle?
@tijnhollanders6932
@tijnhollanders6932 6 лет назад
I mash shuffle but i dont push the cards down (putting them 1 by 1) i "open" the bottom pile and let the top pile fall into the bottom pile, moving my hand from top to bottom. This has more randomness than pushing them, and does not damage them. I agree that you can cheat by looking at your deck.
@choiceband1620
@choiceband1620 6 лет назад
Oh I dit that energy trainer poke thing bu then riffled and overcut and let them cut I didn't know this was illegal oh wow so I should just do straight riffle shuffles
@HtwhlsZteam
@HtwhlsZteam 5 лет назад
as a beginner I mash shuffle just because I'm the worst at doing any other kind of shuffle. I always try to mash shuffle with the card horizontally. Wish I was able to do a better shuffle LoL..
@ericaalo7935
@ericaalo7935 6 лет назад
love this vid. so much information!!
@shivsunil9984
@shivsunil9984 6 месяцев назад
Hey, first, I love this vid! It helps so much since I'm getting into the TCG. Second, 7 riffle shuffles might be best, but that number is based off a 52-card deck. Just worth keeping in mind since most of the time people will be shuffling a sub-46 card deck (7 in hand, 6 prizes, 1 first turn draw) so 7 would be sufficient. However, at the very beginning of the game, it might be that 8 riffle shuffles achieves sufficient randomness on a 60-card deck instead of 7. I'm not sure what the difference is between 8 and 7, but since riffle shuffles increase "randomness" exponentially, it's worth keeping in mind that at a bigger card count, an extra riffle might be necessary.
@alexedes921
@alexedes921 6 лет назад
As a collector and a player I NEVER bridge my deck. With that being said what are the rules on bridging your opponent's deck? If a player asked please don't bridge my deck and they do what's the ruling? You wanna mash shuffle go for it as long as they're not trying to destroy them. I'm a honest player and turn my head with my deck at a heavy slant away from my face. Getting a good mix of random card's is my goal when I shuffle. More power to the honest player's shuffle and shame to the cheaters that have made shuffling a hard topic. Thanks for a good video!!!!!
@Turtlehoop
@Turtlehoop 6 лет назад
As a general courtesy, I've never riffled my opponent's deck in a tournament. I mindlessly did it one time on accident, and I instantly realized what I had done and apologized to the player across me. He wasn't upset because he recognized it wasn't a malicious attempt to damage his cards, but I've definitely seen players flip out when they riffle someone else's deck. To add, I also flinch slightly when another player riffles my cards, even though I aggressively riffle my own, because I feel the same courtesy I extend should be extended by everyone. Also, thank you for turning your head when shuffling your opponent's deck. I find it extremely frustrating when people look straight down when shuffling when a big chunk of stacking/cheating is avoided by simply looking over your shoulder for a few seconds.
@bandalodyugitube
@bandalodyugitube 6 лет назад
If you ask someone not to riffle your deck, they shouldn't do it. It's disrespecting you and your property. I don't think it's enforceable, but it's certainly a bad thing to do.
@ephus_
@ephus_ 3 года назад
Shuffling cards is a very rare time where imperfection is perfection. I feel like a freaking poet
@FazeDumpling
@FazeDumpling Год назад
i didn't know ultra pro has card sleeves in that color? link?
@ksd99999
@ksd99999 4 года назад
You make it look soo easy but I’m still struggling trying to nail this lol
@nogard0497
@nogard0497 5 лет назад
If I ripple shuffle them with both piles coinciding with each other, is that still as random?
@choiceband1620
@choiceband1620 6 лет назад
We have been waiting for this video for so long that I've sorta taught myself to riffle but I mean it is a good video
@kitschyliepard
@kitschyliepard 5 лет назад
At least the better cards for playing *usually* end up not being the more valuable collector cards in the long term. My most valuable card is the pop 5 shining umbreon which I doubt saw much in terms of competitive play. A guy at the league I just started going to was telling me I should double sleeve the cards I have tucked away in my binder for collection sake because "that's probably worth $20" and yet he didn't recognize the umbreon card that--last I looked--was going for $300-$400 on ebay and why would I double sleeve cards that sit in a high quality binder on my shelf and don't move 364 days of the year? pulling them out and trying to cram two sleeves on them would probably cause more damage than just leaving them alone
@ericscott3625
@ericscott3625 6 лет назад
My only question is have you had to replace any of your cards due to the damage from riffing if so how long did they last?
@TrickyGym
@TrickyGym 6 лет назад
i have never had to replace a card from riffling - they always work fine in a sleeve
@ieatbreakdowns
@ieatbreakdowns 6 лет назад
Derium's Competitive Pokemon I'm only worried about the cards becoming "marked" and getting called out on it
@MaddyBird666
@MaddyBird666 3 года назад
@@ieatbreakdowns they are not marked if all 60 cards have the same exact damage.
@umebozu
@umebozu 11 месяцев назад
You might look into how casinos riffle shuffle as it results in less bending of the cards, better keeps secret the bottom card of the deck, and is easier with larger numbers of cards.
@dwood8VGC
@dwood8VGC 6 лет назад
When you mash shuffle you can have your deck face the other way so you don’t see any of the cards. It is possible to mash and not see anything.
@NoblerThanWork
@NoblerThanWork 6 лет назад
If you're not interested in preserving the quality of the cards, what're sleeves for? Just shuffle feel?
@Monkchelle_Kongbama
@Monkchelle_Kongbama Год назад
huh, no one ever replied sleeves are required because unless a card is mint(which they will never be after one game) all cards having whitening and can be easily identified sleeves do make it slippery too.
@KillerQueenNL
@KillerQueenNL 2 месяца назад
Not to necro an old video but did anyone notice how often that fire energy card is on the bottom?
@dharmasrizilva6479
@dharmasrizilva6479 5 лет назад
I know that riffle shuffling is effective but I am not going to destroy my gx and gold cards. Anyway interesting video,I liked it
@salfontana5712
@salfontana5712 6 лет назад
Thank you so much dude! As someone looking to get into the pokemon TCG scene coming into the new year, this video is invaluable. I need to practice my shuffling a bit, but this helped me a ton in just shuffle know-how.
@daisukeniwa402645
@daisukeniwa402645 6 лет назад
there is a lot of different kinds of shuffles out there. i been doing the same shuffle style for almost 8 years now and have no problem with any tournament organizer or any judge with how i shuffle.
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