opShijiao vs SovietBall - Ban Mode Finals - Red Alert 3 

I agree Though red alert 2 and Kate wrath also good

Eh, I don't like the harvesting in RA3

@@Malendron sad but true

It just sucks that it stopped receiving balance updates and bug fixes really early on. The game is frustrating when you have to play around game bugs and glitches instead of focusing on the micro. As it stands, the game is just unfinished thanks to EA dropping support really early. But the concept of RA3's competitve multiplayer is arguably the best among C&C games, the potential was definitely there.

​@@steelbear2063 this harvesting system gives better strategic options imo

Yes

The other alternative might be that you can only ban both sides of transform units at a cost of 2 bans. That way Empire still has either usable tengus or strikers which is much more doable than neither

It's quite simply a problem of Empire having a minimalist roster that relies heavily on the Tengus, as you said. I think there are two main factors here: 1. Tengus are essential because they are Empire's anti-air (Striker VXs are simply not viable as AA if it comes to that, they take too long to come out, they are too expensive, it can all be shut down before they can be established as your AA). 2. Tengus are essential because they are Empire's basic, cost-effective, harassment unit. Problem 1 could, perhaps, be mitigated somewhat if ban mode added the Archer Maidens from the expansion, they are absolutely not an adequate replacement for Tengus, but hey, at least then Empire would have something that can _aim up._ Kinda like Soviets when they lose Bullfrogs and Migs and are forced to use Flak Troopers, it's bad but the option exists, imagine if it didn't... you don't need to imagine it, that's the Empire's situation. Problem 2 does not have a relatively easy solution. Maybe if the Seawings had their damage against buildings and harvesters buffed, then they could serve as a subpar alternative, that way it would hurt a lot for Empire to lose Tengus, but they would have _something_ on both categories to cover the roles of that unit.

The only nerf to ban mode for the Empire I can suggest is to ban only one version of Empire units with transform abilities. For example, if ground Tengus are banned, any Tengus built automatically transform into jet Tengus and can't switch back, and vice versa. Another solution is to prevent players from banning the whole anti-air units from their enemy. They must leave at least one anti-air unit or building available. Sea Wings and Hydrofoils don't count because their anti-air capability is limited to sea.

I mean if you ban ground strikers you're banning strikers period

Literally Empire play in this video.

​@@OneSybert i think he meant Uprising - the single player expansion, lol

Uprising doesn't have multiplayer.

a bit of a shame, would be interesting to watch how the new units change the meta​@@EpslionBear

Yeah, no more videos.

@@OneSybert why😥

Noo​@@OneSybert

Why do you think there's no more videos?

@@OneSybert because I don't see them almost a month. Always see red alerts and Kane wraith.