Optigami⎮Miraculous Ladybug Season 4 Review 

When you make a foolproof plan to defeat your rival and it’s ruined by a teenagers’ handshake

There have been times where her Lucky Charm has told or warned her about certain events so it’s not completely just dumb luck.

But like seriously imagine the fury Adrien will feel after finding out that Lady-We-Can't-Reveal-Our-Secret-Identities-Bug told her true name to some new hero instead of him, a trusted partner

Why can't Marinette use the same miraculouses but mix them around with the owners? Like kagami gets the turtle one, nino gets the horse one and so forth. According to the story, when you transform, there is this magic barrier that doesn't let anyone figure out who you are. So wouldn't the same apply here?

How is Natalie useless again? She has been loyal to Gabriel for so long, even before he was Hawk Moth/Shadow Moth. She's sitting in bed because she's deeply injured because she tried to help him so much. Yes she might've only come up with the plan of a sentimonster following the other miraculous holders now but that's not her fault, if she didn't think of it until now, Gabriel should've instead, so they're both at fault.

LadyBee is literally my favorite Ladybug outfit. It's just so good

I'm pretty sure the meaning behind the episode name "Optygami"(season 4 episode 13) is optical, as in see, like how the sentimonster goes into an object and sees with its eyes. The gami part is not for Kagami and it is short for origami(Japanese paper folding art). The sentimonster was a paper butterfly/akuma. The name Optygami is a commination of both.

How dare you come at Nathalie! She's my QUEEEEN! (In all seriousness, in her defence, she literally almost got killed by her own miraculous and despite that, she would still give her life to Gabriel and his failing plans)

Feel like Gabriel needs to make a ladybug sentimonster to trick Alia to warping them back to Marinette's room

9:48 I rlly liked this moment when Gabe called her off to protect his son and Marinette. Because it shows how he still wants to keep Adrien safe, and that he doesn’t just wanna let random people die for nothing (Marinette), because they don’t see her as a threat so they don’t actually want her to get dusted

Look, Nathalie is literally dying to help Gabriel bring back Emile. She is sacrificing herself for Gabriel, Emile, and Adrien. She is not being useless, she is resting. She used the broken miraculous, the same one that killed Emile.

Something interesting about this episode is that we see a Sentimonster using a Miraculous. I personally don't believe it but this makes Natalie or Adrien being a Sentimonster POSSIBLE.

I should point this out: In one scene, Chat was holding his baton while Cataclysm is active. Imagine what would’ve happened if he wasted it right then and there 😅

Why couldn't Optigami find Marinette? I mean there are times where she goes to the poblic restroom or even behind a random Corner to transform back. Heck she sometimes even goes all the way home before transforming back.

Marinette giving Alya miraculous permanently is probably the stupidest idea this show made. Especially after knowing how dangerous that could be after events in Optigami. Not to mention that the rule of not being able to have a miraculous if your identity is revealed doesn't apply anymore and Miracle Queen is just forgotten or something. Nothing makes sense anymore.

"And then for the first time ever Gabriel uses his brain" has me dead

okay, but can we please appreciate this guy's humour? this is the only reason why i continue to watch these reviews- also he's right about nino's annoying voice calling out for alya. it gets even worse when your name is identical to the character. ://

In the elevator when they both said, "I have something to tell you" I think my heart skipped a beat.

Honestly, I would prefer Shadowmoth as a psycho with actually good ideas than an idiot that does the same thing over and over again expecting a different result

I’ve heard a theory that Gabriel ignores Adrien to tell the magical force or something that he doesn’t care about Adrien so then when he gets his wish, it doesn’t take Adrien.

Honestly, I'm not sure why all the miraculous holders (with the exception of Chloe) couldn't keep their miraculous after the events of "Miracle Queen" Hawkmoth (Shadowmoth now) pretty much knows all of their identities and is obviously going to hunt them down whenever he gets the chance. So, why not let them keep the one and only tool that could help them in an emergency? No, their identities don't have to be revealed to each other (though I think it would help in some cases) and I do get the idea of the miraculous being powerful items, and the Kwami's being powerful as well. If in the wrong hands, that could cause a lot of damage. Also, while Marinette does have good judgement most of the time, these are still kids at the end of the day; I get it but even the Power Rangers (Who are usually teenagers, by the way) carry around their morphers for that very reason, in case you need to use your powersuit to fight the forces of evil. The wearer needs to be taught to respect the power they have and learn to discipline themselves to not use it for personal gain. In that way, I get why she needs to take the miraculous back whenever the mission is done, to put into the Miraculous box but wouldn't it be better to gather the holders and actually teach them what Ladybug and Chat Noir know? They could be mentors and teach the other holders how to use their powers responsibly through training sessions. Not to mention the fact that the transform times can last longer the more they use the miraculous responsibly. This limitation, only giving someone else a miraculous for one mission, it always fit because the situation fit for the inclusion of another holder but we're at the point now where you need all hands on deck. Attacks can happen anywhere and to anyone. These other holders have friends, family and people they care about too. They can't keep waiting for Ladybug to arrive with what they need, eventually that's not going to happen. If anything, it will give them a chance to defend themselves better at least. As for Marinette giving Alya her miraculous permanently? I don't agree with this decision in light of what happened in this episode. If this were another episode, I would have agreed with the decision but Alya did make some crucial mistakes...then again, if both Ladybug and Chat Noir had acted as mentors for these people, that probably wouldn't have happened. Honestly, I know it's going to sound bad but I do like seeing these characters make mistakes and fail to some degree. They are all still too inexperienced to be heroes in many aspects. Being a hero is about more than having a kind heart, helping people and having the power to fight against evil. Your mind also needs to be trained and conditioned to understand how to make the "right" choice too. Time might have passed but we still see both Ladybug and Chat Noir making mistakes in battle; simple ones that can change the outcome to something disastrous if they don't get their acts together. Yes, they usually do work well as a team and win in the end but sometimes it just feels like more could be done to make the transition smoother. It is very lucky that Ladybug's power does revert damage and makes everything better...but what if it didn't? What if there was a limit to that power? As good as Master Fu was, he didn't properly train Marinette or Adrien on how to use the miraculous at all. His age and body were limited in showing them the ropes, I get that but it's very obvious that they always needed guidance. Now that she is the guardian of the box, Marinette has way more to think about before going into battle too. It's like giving someone the entire armory when they've only started mastering their own weapon. I mean, it's taken Marinette this long to realise that she has the power to create. Ayla had to be the one to tell her that, her only limit was herself when she felt helpless to protect people from being Akumatised...something she should have been able to do before now. I know, I know, there wouldn't be much story if you didn't have people to transform into the enemy of the week but still, my point is that neither Marinette or Adrien, or anyone else has learned how to tap into their powers in any significant way.

This episode in a nutshell: "All your smarts are no match for dumb luck."

I feel like the reason he keeps throwing Adrien into the firing line is because of him becoming more and more unstable which in another universe leads to him hitting his son across Paris in Chat Blanc

Dude, I love your reviews! Your style is chill yet lighthearted. Just really fun time!

I love that there actually letting hawkmoth be a smart villain this season

Fun origami facts. The origami piece that optigami is based on is an easy to fold traditional butterfly based on the windmill base. The windmill base is prevalent in European based origami as opposed to classic Japanese origami

If Gabriel knew that Adrien and Marinette had used the snake and mouse Miraculous respectively, he’d be able to figure out that they were Cat Noir and Ladybug since they were absent when all the Miraculous holders were present.

Can anyone explain how the kwamis are able to speak through the phone? I thought they could not be seen or heard with technology. So that part confused me.

The one thing that drives me mad is the fans stupidly saying Marinette shouldn’t go because she would have been found out as ladybug. They don’t realize the real truth. Believe or not Marinette made a big move. She’s technically one-up on Shadow Moth. Fans don’t get it. An upcoming fashion designer refusing a private invitation to an event by the two top fashion icons in the world who have both acknowledged she has potential would be highly suspicious. And then this: Shadow Moth: Marinette didn’t show up. Nattilie: she should be here. Shadow Moth: maybe she is ladybug? They don’t realize that if Marinette refused to go that would have been a path to exposing her identity. She had no choice in the matter but to go. And that elevator scene was a makeshift plan. To us it looked like the reveal is coming. But fans tend to forget that ADRIEN IS A FAMOUS MODEL. So Gabriel assume Marinette was just another fan girl trying to tell Adrien that she is in love with him. So aka not important. This puts marinette under the radar like Gabriel ageste did in the collector episode. Marinette probably has figured out that shadow Moth knows Alya is special. So Marinette gives the fox miraculous away to Alya as bait.

This episode was such a plot device. Shadow Moth spies on everyone except Alya the one person who would have showed him everything

I laughed at the Kim insult- “how slow is this guy”- classic.

I am seeing a pattern in these 4 seasons now and it’s a very bad pattern. How is it that making a superhero that is barely ever allowed to shine a good thing? Specially after the yin yang symbolism? He has to suck so she could shine and that’s horrible just cheap pandering to Ladybug. That’s a horrible message. They gave him night vision , super hearing and smelling , sharp claws and cat like reflexes yet they never let him use them. Ladybug summons a fork with her lucky charm to slide on glass and distract villains when Cat Noir is right there just looking with his sharp claws that could have don the job without her lucky charm. He has the cat like reflexes yet she’s the better physical fighter that always wins with better reflexes even against him. They make her the smart one, they make her the creative one , they make her the leader, they make her the stronger one , they make her the one with more powers , they make her the one with all the decisions ... they make her the brain and the strength... what is left for him?! Where is the yin and yang? Now they are taking him completely out of fights too ... how is that good?! How is the cheap and horrible pandering good in anyway? It’s not. The writers told me something but they are presenting something different to me. I don’t appreciate being lied to. I cam to watch a superhero show with partners, two main characters that are supposedly yin and yang. That’s not what I’m watching, specially when Cat Noir is treated worse than a sidekick.

"RUSH IT?!" he sounded so annoyed and....understandable

Gabe really out did himself in this episode 😂 too bad that was about it we won’t get this until two more seasons 😭

I just had a random idea. Give Chloe the goat miraculous. She's head strong and does what she wants and goats head buts what ever they want.

I'm happy to see Shadow Moth use his brain.

This episode like Gabriel plan… Good plan and plot progress!!!

Does anyone else get the feeling that, like Alya, by the end of season 4 both Nino and Zoé will... A. Be given there respective miraculouses permanently. (the Turtle and Bee) B. Discover/be told that that Marinette is Ladybug.

Dude……….FINALLY MARINETTE LETS SOMEONE PERMANENTLY KEEP A MIRACULOUS!!!!!! Also the review was amazing!!!

Wait. If Kwami's can't be picked up by technology at all, how can they be heard on a phone call? We know from the New York Special that Aeon can't hear kwami. And from various episodes that they can't be seen or heard on videos. So how did that phone call work?

I keep thinking this over and over again. The fact Hawkmoth is getting beat by a 15 year old, and has had to go full sweat like this is actually hilarious. Like if you think its funny

I actually thought the lucky charm helping her was great. He has this amazing plan only for Ladybug's most OP power, good luck, come in and smash it. Both hilarious and kinda fitting for the show.

I think Gabriel need to go sit in his room and cry because his planned failed when it was so close

This was the most entertaining review. Lol! Thank you for addressing the fact that Natalie could see Kailki while using technology. Wonder why they allowed that to happen? 🤨

Sentibubbler is coming out In 6 hours for those Who are wondering

I was waiting for this review!! It was a really good episode

This episode had me thinking: if the miraculous ladybug brings people back to life, doesn't that mean that the people of Paris are dying over and over, and coming back to life ever single time, experiencing different deaths every single time. Omg that sounds like torture

0:52 actually they also don’t know vesperia, and Multimouse and aspik but I doubt they even know those two exist

People say that the scene of cat noirs dissapointment will show up as a reappearence of cat blanc

Nobody is even rooting for LB and CN anymore we just finally want to see Gabe using his brain cause we know the good guys win anyway.

3:10 To be fair Marinette did the equivalent to what Gabriel did in "The Collector" in "Kwami Buster", complete with the idea that like Chloè she's out of the game.

Smarty pants : 4 seasons in, nothings changed! 5 seconds later : we've had a fair bit of development this season

That's ain't no good luck It's called plot armour

‘Hopefully she doesn’t try to take it back straight away’ *foreshadowing*

I wouldn’t say Alec was kidnapped in the bathroom. All shadowmoth did was create a sentimonster of him and then Alec freaked out and hid in the corner

Shit is so funny bro. Shadow moth really got scammed here flawless planned ruined by a detail I barely remembered

What i don’t understand in this episode is that it was made very clear that hawk moth knowing alyas identity is dangerous I get she needs the extra help in case she gets stuck again but why not give alya a different miraculous permanently because once he realizes she has the fox on her all the time he will easily be able to steal it

I love when he said "or send a text they can read" me:🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I think it makes sense that Mari would give Alya the Fox permanently at that moment. Mostly for Alya's own protection. She'd be able to protect her and immediately transform instead of having to go to Mari's place for the box every time. Also, it would prevent another situation like having to use Kalki like that if Mari gets stuck again. Rena would be available to hold the akuma off until LB and CN are available. I know she gets a bad dream about it and goes to take it back in the future but for now, it makes sense. The only thing I'm iffy on is if Mari knows that HM knows all the holder's identities. She definitely still calls on them early in the season so I'm not sure when she's gonna stop once it's confirmed that HM knows.

Gabriel in Optigami: yeah this is big brain time

That’s not just good luck that’s perception. She’s sharp when it comes to her superhero life.

I live for these videos your sense of humor is so unique and it's my cup of tea! Keep it up :D

Accidently is an understatement. Ever since Nino became Carapice he's always been not all there and Alya would have done infinitely better not dating someone who is in her class who she didn't really like to begin with. He cannot handle the idea of girl time with Marinette, her best friend. He can't handle the idea that another guy is close to her even though its obvious there's nothing going on. He blabbs to Adrien the moment he feels threatened about his identity as a superhero. He reveals Rena Furtive to everyone where if he were doing what he really needed to do he could have prevented crap from happening if Shellter was at the ready. I cannot stand the guy and if the fate of a secret was put into his hand or if he felt like a HS love interest was in jeopardy he would kill everyone immediately in spite of the fact that his power is the power of protection

2:00 Watch it, bro. I think you've forgotten she was sick due to the broken peacock miraculous and as such couldn't get out of bed. At least she's helping.

I really like your videos, bc of 2 things 1: I am obsessed with reviews and first reaction videos 2: bc this so funny (i mean the words you use), for example: smooth brain, creepy basement, fridge(Emily's glass coffin), monolouging, damn/that damn bike(risk review), etc. 🤣🤣🤣

14:17 - 14:26 This part had me in stitches. It was too true and too funny

Gabriel's brain "works", miraculous magic "Stop working Gab's brain, now!" Gabriel's brain "Ok".

The thumnail big brain move Ladybug : Predictable as h*ll

So in this episode Marinette unifies with the Bee. In Sentibubbler she unifies with the Horse. So why the hell did she never use them together? We know she can use atleast three at a time. All she had to do in Sentibubbler was open a portal above him, unify with the bee and immobilize him. He didn’t see her coming, it wouldn’t have been that hard to just stop him then. Jump down, sting him and then just kinda.. take his miraculous… Shadow Moth is not a hard villain to defeat, you just need to bring him out in the open.

To be honest the Lucky Charm isn’t really just “dumb luck” it seems to predict almost exactly what’s gonna happen in the future. Ladybug may obviously summon the lucky charm to defeat the villain, but if the lucky charms thinks that there is a bigger danger than the villain, then it will predict her and give her something else. Here the lucky charm gave her a mirror, in Oblivio it gave her lipstick (to write on a wall) and in Mayura it gave her a reflective box. This power is a real mistery

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Hawkmoth was smart in that episode

0:31 actually, what Astruc meant was that every episode have Chat Blanc's impact

Can’t wait for the sentibubbler review

natalie isn’t useless 🗣🗣

I think earlier in the series Hawkmoth thought his son was chat noir so he had him yeeted off a building until he got to his senses then had the akumatized villan save him. Also the first time she combined miraculouses she did a whole act of purposely revealing herself as Multi Mouse in front of Chat Noir. But I'm not sure if Hawkmoth saw that reveal as well. If so it would make sense he doesnt care for those two. Then again I could be misremembering or that whole idea was axed.

I forgot to Thomas said that Every episode it would be like chat blanc I forgot that that’s kind of embarrassing to say now

The only thing that angers me about this episode besides the Chat Noir neglect is they keep actively breaking lore rules. Like season 1 it was established that Kwami's couldn't manifest themselves without somebody putting on their jewelry. It's even still used as a device to interrupt Plagg and Tikki at inconvenient times or give dramatic moments to the next time Chat decides to renounce his Miraculous again. Like, can they still appear when not being worn or not, make up your minds. Also sidenote: If Ladybug can so easily just unify the Miraculous' together than what is the actual point of her ever calling on the others. Master Fu said it was dangerous to use multiple Miraculous' at a time, but we never got to see the consequences or even slight repercussions. Like at least make it a rule or something that it's impossible to have two Miraculous' at the same time and you would need to renounce one in order to use another or have it take a toll on the users body.

It’s a waste to barely develop such a layered and complex character and downplay all the themes surrounding him by presenting it in 2 to 5 minutes every 12 episodes. He’s a main character that’s treated like a side character... sometimes worse. I still can’t forgive the writers for Reflektdoll specially when they branded his job as”easy”. Adrien finds the miraculous book but Marinette is the one who learned about the lore. Master Fu didn’t care to eve build a relationship with Adrien nor cared to guide him in anyway, he only cared about Marinette. They never allow him to grow as a superhero and just exists so Marinette can tell him when to use his cataclysm or how to use his stick or to make mistakes but the writers never allows him to correct and shine above those mistakes . It’s very weird that they made sure they put him down even as an adult superhero where Bunix gushes over Ladybug and puts down Cat Noir for his mistakes ( telling us not to even dream about a better treatment because it’s still the same in the future). It’s very weird how they made sure to send this message by letting Ladybug question Bunix and say “If I am so great then why do we have a villain like that from the future “ and Bunix’s answer is “It wasn’t your fault it was Cat Noir’s” .... I don’t think I have ever watched or read such weird writing just for the sake of pandering.If the writers sidelined Adrien even in the Agreste plot and the whole HM thing I think it will be the last straw for me.

I thought Kwamis couldn’t be heard by technology

also, why would Marinette even have an emergency phone for the kwamis? they can't be detected by technology so the call would be useless. unless of course, she just told them to text her but SHE *CALLED* THEM!! knowing full well they can't be detected by the emergency phone!!!

why doesnt ladybug always use two miraculouses and give one to cat noir too so they would have 4 powers? why would you limit your super power? this show is not logical

5:23 well he’s not really kidnapped so much as he’s told to quietly sit in the corner and not move

Technically the skyscraper and the train incidents with the horse miraculous could have been prevented by fusing the horse and fox miraculous while teleporting to the elevator and teleporting adrien outside

I loved Optigami❤️

I mean kim basically ran to the top of that tall ass building lmao

My thing is Alec wasn't really kidnapped, he wasn't tied down to nothing, he was free to leave! But no he chose to stay in the bathroom sitting on the floor while shadow moth was going on with his plan! Why didn't Alec just leave and show everyone who was there that shadow moth was in the bathroom and that the other Alec was sentimonster?!

To be fair he doesn't call off style queen because Marinette was there. It was because he didn't want her dusting Adrien

All of ladybugs combo suits are really cool, but it would be nice to see cat noir get to do that too

This was a very good episode ☺️❤️

Seeing a lot of comments saying that Alya getting the miraculous is a bad idea, and yes, I do see it, but at least she has a way to defend herself. She was damned either way.

Seriously though is no one able to see the ongoing trend of the general area where the secondary superheroes are coming from. ALL BUT 3 SUPERHEROES (Kagami, Luka and Zoe) ARE IN MISS BUSTIERS CLASS! Luka and Zoe are in science gals class (I can’t be bothered spelling her name) and Kagami isn’t in either but she is friends with Marinette and once dated Adrien.

Imagine someone dies in a car crash right as soon as someone got akumatised , They would be brought back just to die again

Wow so kalkki you really did that yeah I got trixx was strong

ok I thought off a way shadow moth could easily find out cat noir identity when one of them get down shadow moth could send an akumia and put it in his mask so when lady bug breakers it his identity will be revealed

The elevator scene you have made me think that ladybug and cat Noir revealed themselves but that was a diff episode

Omg the teacher in the scene with the bus her face bro 💀

9:21 but i tought kwamis cannot be heard on technology

Willlll....now we know why its called lucky charm da ba dom

What would have been cool imo is if we saw her trying to make the optigami in different episodes and finally succeding in the episode before this. Or have a scene in an episode with a board where shadowmoth has the faces of the miraculous holders to try to make a plan like the crazy board in that one meme to explain why the events happened so perfectly, like him figuring out the best person to akumatize 3:08 if i was gabe i would have thought that it was one of the teachers like miss buestiae. 6:38 SPOILERS but it seems consistent that kagami is the first to try to help if shes in contact with an akumatized villan after she got her powers. cus in gabriel she tries to stop him after the sentimonster version of him attacks. 10:03 with the meathead kim is i assumed he was trying to run up while they were running down so he was forced down and had to run back up again 11:45 maybe its because it is magic tech she can see it. It prevents technology from seeing it but since the display is as a result of magic and not like a signal it can be seen? thats my idea anyway. 14:25 it is not fair. i guess the idea is that she was super lucky that she was able to catch it in the mirror? it would have made more sense if she tried to use her "vision" again and saw the mirror and nino with spots covering and turned to ponder. that would set up that both the mirror and nino are still needed. but i guess the idea that it was just luck through the mystical power of the lucky charm like marinette says at the end makes sense too. still it feels pretty cheap that way.