You couldn't have asked for a better tech to come out and do this! He was perfectly at ease in front of camera. Explaining everything so nicely, not all people are at ease, or willing to talk to you as if nobody was recording!!! Good video Tim!
I am the only person I know of that uses Rim Guard in the front tires of my 1025 R I find that it helps with keeping them properly inflated. Been doing this for 5 years and the front tires never lose pressure. I don't do it for the weight, only the benefit that I worry less about front tire underinflation.
A good thing to reiterate as he kind of glossed over it is that once Rim Guard in in there, you have to check the pressure with the valve @ 12 o'clock.
I've been putting off getting Rim Guard in my tractor tires due to the transportation needs to get it to the dealer. Knowing you can get someone to come to your place is a game changer!
Great video. I had RimGuard in my 4 series Deere, and It made a huge difference in the capability of the tractor. As you mentioned, I still liked doing heavy loader work with a rear attachment to offload the front axle.
i put washer fluid in mine myself with a pump. i understand its not as heavy as the beet juice but i got a 55 gallon drum of it for free. it works really good.
We are lucky here,straight water works. People will say it will rust the rim, but even if it does, it takes forever. My family has had water in the tires for 50-60 years and the rim hasn't rusted.
I do have liquid ballasst in all 8 wheels of my Ventrac. No local beet juice, so I used the ever popular winter concentration winshield washer fluid. Super easy to do since the Ventrac rims have 2 valve stems 180 degrees opposed. 7 gallons eash tire. My slopes are severe and this helps and it is a huge help with the boom arm mower. I tried threading the outer tires of the dual pairs as one normally does and what a royal PIA! Then I wised-up and removed the lugs of the outer wheels to make the changes or to check torque of inner -- that is easy!
HEY! You jinxed me! I got my "J.D." out this afternoon and its ballisted front tire had this little shiney spot with dampness about it. A bee hive frame nail! So I jack that tire off the ground, pull the little cigar box nail, use a drill to enlarge/freshen the hole and a solvent cement sticky rope plug to save the day. No ballast lost. J.D. is a 1983 650 with the big Pillow Diameter turf tires. Great tractor and runs like new.
I have a JD 4100 that I had fluid put in all four tires when new. I recently replaced the front tires and did not add fluid. What a difference. The front tires will not turn on hills and only scoot forward when turned sharply. I AM INSTALLING FLUID NEXT WEEK before I get in trouble.
I recommend greasing the valve stem external threads before putting the cap back on. Otherwise, the Rimguard can sort of glue the cap to the stem. Never thought to check valve stem caps for rubber grommets. Cheers.
@@Dan-oz4qb Amazon product info uses different language: Airtight Rubber O-Ring Seal - These cap tire valves provide an enhanced seal to help prevent air leakage and to properly keep out dust, dirt, grime and road debris.
@@Formulabruce If you don't grease, then trying to get the cap off can break the stem. Which creates an expensive puddle in the driveway. Which is why I changed to another product for refill.
I had my 3035d filled when I bought it, I like the way it handles loads in the bucket, the only time I’ve drove the tractor without the rim guard was around the lot at the dealership. At around 400 pounds per tire it has to be helpful!!
Anyone in Ontario, Canada: There is a dealer in Ingersoll that has it. I got mine done there. The fill process was knock the tire off the rim, and pour it in the side. We didn't use the valve stem. This was on a Massey GC-1720.
On garden tractors filling steer tires helps even if you only add 20lbs per tire every little bit helps with a front snowblower that sits on the ground in operation since they like to go straight when you loose the added steer tire traction from the snowblowers weight as soon as the blower is lowered to the ground (I run tri and quad Rib steer tires on my garden tractors in16x6. 50-8) and my 23x10.50-12 v bar rear tires both front and rear loaded to 80%... My steer tires were factory 2ply on all my machines but I upgraded to 4or 6ply (depending on which tractor tire was installed).
All 4 of my 2032r tires are filled. It really has made a big difference. Highly recommended. The only problem is if you drive down the road at a high speed, you can feel it sloshing around and makes it bumpy.
I think you may need more fluid. From what I read, if you are planning to run at higher speeds, you want to fill above the rim (valve stem). This will help prevent sloshing, but will make a rougher ride as liquid doesn't compress like air. Another reason to use R4's rather than radial - you loose the flex a radial would provide. So cheaper and once filled not much different in flex/ride quality. BTW: this is what I'm hearing "on the street", so maybe Tim could chime in?
Good work and an interesting video. You converted me on one of your earlier videos to Rimguard and I find this ballast solution to be very effective. As you mentioned, the weight is as low as possible. My first go with Rimguard was on a set of HDAP tires used for plowing snow with a loader mounted blade. I filled the fronts to provide as much steering traction as possible. Seemed to help. Now have Versa Turfs with Rimguard in the rears only. We have some gooey clay and they excel in that stuff.
I'm still a believer in the front being filled Tim. Next time I mow I'm going to add weights to the front too and see how that goes. I need the front to be planted as much as possible just like the rear. I'm noticing it even more now that I have the Terra Trac tires on.
“It’s what works well for us”... I was thinking that this may not work well for me as you said that Tim. Great video as always... always look forward to them! 😊
Just a FYI... Recommended minimum ballasting requirements for specific tractors/FELs can be pretty astonishing. Ballasting, per Deere's own on-line manuals for the 520M MSL FEL on a 5075E Cab tractor (AKA Johnny 5): Option 1) 3-pt hitch only ballast @ 3,197 lbs(!). Option 2) 3-pt hitch @ 2,756 lbs AND rear axle @ 882 lbs (assuming that’s a total for both tires). The new Rim Guard put 738 lbs per tire on the rear axle (1,476 lbs total), so that is around 2x the recommended minimum axle ballast requirement. Even with the new Rim Guard, you'll still need something really heavy on the 3-pt. I have no idea what kind of 3-pt implement weighs 2,756 lbs, let alone 3,197 lbs. One thing not mentioned in the Deere manual is where that 3-pt hitch weight number is actually located. I'd have to assume its out at the "24-inch behind the balls" distance normally used when specifying the 3-pt hitch lift capacity. In the case of the 5075E, that 24" behind spec is 3192 lbs. Like I said, astonishing!
Another great and informative video. Your statements on the use or not, especially between lawn only vice loader,etc has help steer me in a better informed direction. Thank You
Thanks for responding back I asked tractor Mike the same thing I didn't get a response but I like the way that I asked the question better than the way that I did to you. Maybe that would have gotten the wheels turning in a different direction you might say no pun intended. Sorry for it seeming like I was being a smart tail.
Back in 2006 when I bought my tractor they wanted to fill my tires with calcium chloride. I told the the dealer no. As I knew it would rot the rims I have gotten by without weight in the tires as it does double duty as a lawn tractor and garden duty. The only time I notice the lack of weight is using the plow. If using the bucket for heavy lifting I will hang the tiller off the back as it is heavy and behind the rear axles like Tim mentioned for weight and taking some load off the front. Besides I have free ballast every time I sit in the seat LOL.
When we were tractor pulling, we made a plate that bolted to the lug nuts and a pipe welded to it. We then slid 50lb lead discs onto the pipes. We could make a 300lb mini modified tractor, into a 1500lb tractor. We had to do it that way because there were 4 weight classes, 800, 900, 1200 and 1500lb and had to switch weight classes constantly. Cool video Tim.
TY, nice video. I filled up my air pig that I pressurized and was filed with winter washer fluid then transferred that into the rear tires on my mower, it added 62 lbs per tire. This method is best because filled tires and wheel weights don' t add any weight to the wheel bearings load the way rear hanging weights do.
Great video Tim. I absolutely love the versa turf tires on my rwd Bolens ht23. Good friend of mine was looking to buy a new compact tractor. He asked me my advise on what to get. I told him easy choice, 1025r, and to check out your videos. He just took delivery of his new johnny. He loves it. I told him to see if he could get the versa turf tires when he was ordering it, but they told him they were not an option.
Interesting, I heard of people around here putting wind shield antifreeze fluid in their rear tires for weight but never a specific use product. Check your tractor with the forks attached at 20:10 of this video. Looks like your radiator is packed with debris. Best Regards, Jay
WOW over 700 lbs/tire on the first tractor, that tire didn't look all that big. Because of a flat tire a couple years ago I have Rim Gard in one and Ballast Star in other. Good informational video with excellent narration.
Very informative video and thanks for explaining why you didn't put Rim Guard in Vinnie. All these tips help us make better decisions. Jason did a good job explaining too.
Advantage of living in Florida, we just fill tractor tires up with a garden hose. You just have to keep letting the air out to prevent over-pressurizing the tire. Haven't had time to do my new 1023E.
Yep. It's the same as people that say "chimley" for chimney. Others will say things like "chester drawers" for chest of drawers. "Supposebly" for supposedly, along with the normal "their/there/they're" and "or/are," etc. Drives me nuts.
Well done info on the Rim Guard, and the alternative installation of it on site, instead of taking the tractor to dealer. Just curious as if tire pressure changes more in extreme (summer vs. winter) temperatures? Nice job Tim and Christie, and blessings to you.
I'd assume the pressure would change less since there's much less air in the tire. Or maybe the smaller volume of air makes it more sensitive to temperature change? Great question!
Watching this again, tomorrow morning the tire service is coming out to such out calcium and put a new tube and rim guard in our Oliver 550 tires tomorrow morning. We went to fill them up, they were low, and the tubes broke, on both sides.
I liked the front tires on my Ford 2000 filled with ballast because the front end was so light when I lifted the bush hog and drove on a bumpy road I had better control. The Ford 5000 had no issues. But all my tractors had the rear tires filled.
we have brush guard on the back of our tractor and no FEL so we need to put all the weight we can on the front of the tractor. Wheel weights, front weight bar, and ballast the front tires
Instead of a flow volume meter; do it by weight. Put a couple of load cells on the tank frame; and knowing the density of the rim guard; you can extrapolate how many gallons you’ve pumped.
I have been using rim guard since 2003 when we got our 4710, we have it in all our tractors, great product, the only bad thing I can say is on the smaller garden tractor tires without air water valve stems I have had issues with the brass insert separating from the rubber valve stem after around 5-7 years, when checking the air pressure the brass insert will twist out of the rubber body taking off the stem cap, the rim guard seems to deteriorate those style valve stems, I just lay the tire flat on the ground and break the bead and sneak a new stem in it without losing all the rim guard
Unlike other dealer locators, RimGuard website doesn't have a map with closest dealer,only a "contacts us form" I plan on calling the tractor dealer i bought my Kioti from and see if they did load my tire already, and if not, if they can it, or know who can. I don't understand why rimguard can't do a dealer map like everyone else pn the web.
Right, that's what I did just call my locals to find which one uses RimGuard. Turns out that they all do and their pricing is Very close to same. My JD 2305 now has all 4 tires filled 👍YAY maybe it'll save what life I've left at 72 👦😎🙄
As soon as i heard you got a 5 series tractor that saying at the end of the vid is exactly what came to my mind. Lol. Johnny 5 is alive no dissassemble! Lol.
Tim the only place near me for RimGuard is in Memphis. That’s about 2 hours away. I had already been considering it, but sure hate to haul Little John that far...
Considered this but the additional weight in the upper level of my barn where I store my hay made this a less appealing option compared to a ballast box on the back that I can remove when I need to work in the barn.
Did you happen to weight one of Johnny 1's tires to do a comparison and see the real weight. It would be interesting to see if the chart is close or not.
I feel like I read in the manual not to load front tires with liquid balast. I just loaded my rears with ww fluid and it cost about $45 to get it done for me. I used the jack method to get it done. What do they charge to fill the 1025 tire?
How much does the rim guard expand or contract with temperature? I know air will, and it will do a lot. Does the rim guard help prevent the tires airing down when it gets cold?
@@TractorTimewithTim fluids are much less susceptible to volume & pressure fluctuation due to temperature than gasses are. Rimguard also has a much lower freeze point (-35) than water due to the sugar solution dissolved in it, but, because it is water-based, when it does freeze, it will expand like water does and can cause issues. lots of physics involved, but, with the smaller air volume left in the tire and the majority of the fluid being less dynamic, you will not notice much difference between a 110 degree day and a -30 degree day.
At 75% the cost of rear weights, I'd use wheel weights. The weight does not have to be purchased again if you have a tire damaged. You loose some or most liquid depending puncture. I guess if you call the right tire guy, he can salvage some to complete them repair but not all.
No fancy stuff needed. Pull tire and wheel, break bead on one side, pour in cocktail of choice. Air up & reinstall. I prefer RV anti freeze for the tractor and Bourbon and Coke anti freeze for me.
had rim guard in my 445 JD after a calcium load rusted out the rims. then added it to my 1025 R after purchase. The 1025R did spin the rears when mowing the grass and turning on the slightest incline leaving divots. After adding the rim guard on more spinning when cutting the grass.
Good Works tractor just did a comparison between a 1025 R and a Kubota B2601. While this wasn’t a apple to apple comparison it was very useful; as, it gave a good comparison of what you gat with a slightly larger tractor. You previously did a comparison between a 1025 and a BX. You and Good Works by doing the comparisons have set the 1025 up as the base tractor. Personally I think this is great. Good Works couldn’t fo a comparison between a b2601 and a 2 series JD, because he didn’t have a 2 series to compare. However, you do. When a person goes to buy a tractor the dealership seems to use their subcompact as the first goto item; as, it is the lowest price. Since you two have basically set the 1025 as the comparison base it would be nice to see you do a comparison between the 1025 and your 2 series or even your 5 series This would not be a comparison to see what machine wins but to give viewers the opportunity to better see the capabilities of each machine. This would give viewers to see what the differences are rather than just reading a specification chart. As always a very good video.
Thank you again for reminding me of that video. I had watched it previously snd thought it was quite well thought out and very well presented. However it didn’t really stay with me because you used a lot of references to the spec sheets. I remember how the specs some time just don’t play out. For example the specs for the BX and 1025r 3 point hitch and tractor turn radius showed the two to be virtually the same, but when you did the actual tests your results were quite different. The 1025r turned in a far less area than the BX, while the BX’s 3 point hitch fid a little better than the 1025 R. You even went farther and test the hydraulic pressure. The 1025 R was producing more pressure that the BX. I know that loading heavy weights on a tractor for testing purposes is a lot of work. But, those real lift test and comparisons where the operation is shown is what sticks in ones mind. I was thinking that Good Works tractor snd you might be able to get together and compare the 2 series to the B2601 if he still has the machine. If that is not possible than maybe you doing real lifts and turning radius test might be possible. As always you always do a very good video.
Maybe I'm the one that doesn't understand what a radial tire was designed for. Putting fluid in a radial tire just turned it back into a bias ply tire by stiffening the sidewalls up. by adding external weight to a tractor with radial tires still allows it to flex by Design. Maybe I just don't understand.
One thing I don't like about Deere is their use of Galaxy tires which, unless something has changed, are made in China. On a premium tractor, IMHO they should come with a premium brand tire.
@@marshallevans9457 IIRC, Titan bought the Firestone AG/industrial (OTR) brand so makes sense they're all made in that plant. Not sure what else, if any, are made here. Galaxy also had a plant in Yugoslavia @ one time but not sure what happened to it when they got bought by Trelleborg several years ago. They got hit really hard by the anti-dumping tariffs on OTR tires that were implemented - I guess it was about 8 years ago or so. Basically put them out of business had it not been for the (fire) sale to Trelleborg.
danielsharon524 Actually Titan bought the Goodyear Ag tire business many years ago. Firestone is now owned by Bridgestone. Most if not all their ag tires for both companies are made in Des Moines. Galaxy is the brand for Alliance tire an Indian company. They make tires all over the world but not the US.
Got a question Tim. I'm guessing that service guy knew what he was walking into with the camera and such. So did you call the company and explain to them what you did and wanted? In turn they sent the best guy the had or what?
My quick question is, what’s the shelf (inner tire Life) of the beet juice? Due to heat it has to expand, even if by a little bit, and since it was an actual product of a living 🌱 which means it will eventually decompose. I think I saw a previous video you did that the tech said it smells really bad.
I used to work at a shop and I enjoyed working on tractor tires we used Calcium I don't think rim guard was a thing then though it was 11 years ago I sure miss working on tractor tires
The rimguard solution is a great product in and of itself. The Rimguard company itself: They suck! They won't sell you the liquid itself, no you have to go to a dealer and pay to have installed. Which means you have to either take the tractor or the tire/wheels to get them loaded. Secondly, their so-called "Dealer Locator" on their website - isn't. To find a dealer you have to e-mail them, and then they only send you one dealer instead of choices. Hey RG: How about putting a real "Dealer Locator" on your web site like Kroger, Walmart, McDonalds, AutoZone, O'Reillys etc. etc. etc. like virtually every other American company does. You know, for the convenience of your customers.
Thanks for the comment, we are happy to hear you like our product. Also, thanks for the feedback, we are currently revamping our website, set to launch this summer. We are taking your comments about our dealer locator into consideration for the new site. We should suck less with the new site launch!
