Orang Seletar: The People Who Were Here Before Singapore Was Singapore 

Who were part of the Malay race. I also have some Malay Orang Laut ancestry as I have Johor Malay ancestry and ancestry from the Malays who lived on the villages and towns that used to line the southern coast of Singapore dating back centuries if not millennia

@@Khatulistiwan Malay Race is a misnomer. Should be renamed as Hesperonesia.

I’m free to call it whatever I want. Between Malay and your ‘Hesperonesian’, Malay is more widely accepted, understood and established. ‘Hesperonesia’ is just some term coined by some German scholar to refer to a language group, not a race LOL. Language does not equate to race. Whoever highlighted the comment above indeed does not know any better and instead chooses to bash Malayness at any opportunity. Any random person on the street does not recognise the term ‘Hesperonesia’ an artificial term coined by a foreigner. But we willingly associate ourselves with the Malay identity. And may I ask why is Malay Race a ‘misnomer’? The same can be said about the Chinese, Indian, White and Black Races. But we do not see that many people pushing such an agenda for those groups, correct?

@@Khatulistiwan Yup. I believe many of those aforementioned terms like "black race", "Chinese race" and "Indian race" are misnomer in many ways. A Sri Lankan would definitely correct you if you classify him/her as an Indian. A Formosan living permanently as a Zhongguonese would definitely reject being identified as a Chinese. It seems that Malaysia and Singapore really buy those things. You do even think we Indonesians are part of your land called 'Malay Archipelagos' which is adopted by Europeans. 😏

You're talking about the tentara laut or?

@@JadeyJ4d3y Orang laut. The back bone of almost Malay empires

@@JadeyJ4d3y org laut yaa... Ada beza tentera laut dgn org laut.. org laut cam kaum dlm video nii.. tp kalau tentera laut ikut zman dahulu.. terdiri daripada org melayu, askar upahan dan org laut yg diketuai oleh laksamana. Itu zaman dahulu laa.. bukan zaman skrg..

@@JadeyJ4d3y tentara laut is pretty much navy forces....orang laut is basically sea people....

Orang Seletar dan Orang Kuala adalah suku orang laut yang berbeza.

looks like a scenes from an A24 movie

austronesian vibes

Oh ye ke. Kesian dorang yee. Klu mcm tu ni semua salah org melayu la ni...

Td baca artikel singapore.. Penulis melayu kite juga.. Tulisan tntg seorang uncle cina yg tinggal kt kwsn laut seletar .. Kat sana dh tk de udang.. Perlu dpt 1 kg udg utk kos bot.. Yg sy nk sgt bgtahu die.. Penulisannye kpd uncle cina tu seolah2 uncle tu org laut nomad seletar.. Nk je ckp.. Org laut seletar tk de cina.. Dorang mlyu laut org asli.. Uncle tu pergi cari mkn tmpt mereka..

No Orang Lauts are more closely related to the Orang Aslis. They are the original Indigenous people who've lived in this region from stone age time... Malays came from Southern China, Yunnan less than 6000 years ago. That is the accepted theory by most Anthropologists. Don't try to confuse people here by generalizing everything together.

@@appl2597 the yunnan hypothesis is just one of 3 theories, and is highly debatable due to discrepancies which has been uncovered since it was first published in late 1800s. some of the claims they make about language and tools are preposterous by today's context. genetically, i am more inclined to the austronesian aborigine theory, aka taiwan, philippines and the regions, etc. the evidence of this in language, culture and other aspects of life is stronger, and is more empirical. empirical is important because it means that it is still in practise today and can be readily observed in situ, so there is less speculation or hypothetical leanings.

@@appl2597 You're nothing but a racist prick. The original Chinese lived between the Yangtze and Huanghe. They conquered, colonised and converted many non-Chinese people around them to become 'Chinese'. The whole of southern China was not Chinese. It was home to various non-Chinese ppl including Austronesians who are not Chinese. So even if it s true that Malays came from Yunnan, they are definitely not Chinese. Read your own history. China colonised nd invaded Yunnan and made it into a Chinese province and made everyone masuk Cina. Educate yourself rather than have so much hatred for the Malays.

@@Noshtyyy Indonesia pun ramai Proto Melayu laa

No, it's not same stupid

Technically, they are the original inhabitants of the Sea XD, that surrounds the land

They are indigeneous Proto-Malay people. They are decendants of ancient Malays who choose to retain their ancient seafaring lifestyle

They are Malay too, they also native of Phuket know as Malay as Tanjung Salang, European called it Junkceylon before it was taken by Thai by war(Kedah-Siam War in 1820s) Orang Laut and Malay also native of Krabi(Ayer Kelubi), Trang(Terang), and Phang-Nga(Bagan), Koh Lanta(Pulau Lanta) in Krabi, Koh Phi-Phi(Malay called it Pulau Api Api), Koh Similan(Pulau Sembilan) where still Orang Laut(Urak Lawoi) live in Traditional live, in Phuket, Krabi, Trang Malay and Orang Laut become minority, just like in Singapore and Central Vietnam Malay become minority in own land, Orabg speak Malay, a dialect of Malay. Orang Laut live similar way before Malay convert to Hindu-Buddha and later Islam. Orang Laut and others Orang Asli(Jakun, Temuan, Sakai, Semelai etc), Sakai and other orang asli(Orang Kubu, Orang Rinba) in Jambi and Riau, Sumatra Sakai live in jungle, do not wear a shirt. Map of Orang laut and others cousin around Malay peninsular and Malay archipelago. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sea_Nomads_distribution_map.jpg en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orang_Laut Kedah-Siam War, also know by Sabahan and Southern Filipino to help Kedah state. live.staticflickr.com/65535/48201886662_805f8f991e_b.jpg live.staticflickr.com/65535/48201879236_10f694df1e_b.jpg live.staticflickr.com/65535/48137661553_21cab00140_b.jpg live.staticflickr.com/65535/48818245526_11c204a4e7_b.jpg live.staticflickr.com/65535/48817881253_eb88a72ba9_b.jpg live.staticflickr.com/65535/48889954817_dbcfb41e74_b.jpg live.staticflickr.com/65535/48889951937_a9927a7286_b.jpg 4.bp.blogspot.com/_gdPu6sSDit8/TKSnTYvMBHI/AAAAAAAAAFg/cFVIJWilwqU/s1600/armored-javanese.jpg Prajurit Jawa dari bukti sejarah, lakaran, artifak, bahan, gambar dan saksi mata. live.staticflickr.com/65535/48889237438_1eea5d2b85_b.jpg

Language of Orang Seletar is not different language at all, not even a family language like Javanese and Tagalog of Philippine, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orang_Seletar_language Others orang asli langauge en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temuan_language en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakun_language Malay language family en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayic_languages

What if future generations that doesn't know about them will think these people as a PTI

They call themselves Kon Seletar ("Kon" is etymologically related to Cambodian / Khmer "Kon" and Vietnamese "con"), which suggests an Austro-Asiatic origin

a white man came to maritime southeast asia and label all brown skin ppl as malay so yeah.

@@photosgeek HAHAHAHAHAHA where got...... If every brown is malay, then iban, kadazan, dayak, siam, phillipines all are malay already😂

@@photosgeek they are considered as malay bcoz their dna match the "malays" that's why they are classified as malay.....

true! people forget about “malayisation” during malacca kingdom..the history of how we started to call ourselves as malays are the same with the history of han ethnic group in china bcs hakka,canton and many more only started to call themselves as han ethnic group during han kingdom era..same with malay people

I think native seletar vanish from spore land.

I'm sorry but you're wrong brother. They certainly don't lived and thrived in a reservoir haha. They are always around Pulau Seletar, an offset small island off Yishun. But the Johor Straits, youre right. You can Google where Pulau Seletar is, it's now a SAF training area.

@@muhammadsaiful5202 thanks bro. Looking forward how they live their life now.

Very nice to hear this. I wish more Singaporeans learn about this wonderful history of this land. Are Orang Seletars shown in this video and Orang Sungei Seletars the same people?

you can find the full song Yok Sang here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o8hDReyNmzw.html, this is sung by a group in Johor Bahru

Ya just blame the Chinese when it’s the sultan of Johor who sold the island to the British.

The Malayo-Polynesian peoples under the bigger family of Austronesians were Animists originally. Though some have argued that some worshipped one supreme god called Hyang where Sembahyang comes from. Then foreign religions like Buddhism and Hinduism came. Then came Islam

There are plenty of Singaporean Malays who aren’t Muslim, I’m one of them

Anda mengusir pribumi secara halus Suatu saat kami bangsa Melayu akan bangkit

This is not Singapore. This is a settlement near Johor Bahru area in Malaysia. Unlike Singapore where the seletar and orang laut people were chased out from their native lands and forced to live in HDB flats, in Malaysia most of them still live in their native lands, retaining their traditional lifestyle and maintain their occupation of being fishermen. Most importantly, their traditional beliefs are still being practised.

Orang Laut are part of the same family tree as Malays. Their language is 80% Malay words. It is far more accurate to call them a tribe of the Malays

I have some Orang Laut blood and I can attest to that

Who lanun, please explain

@@happysbh5746 go and read book on origin of Malays in South east asia!

@@permiteyes782 siapa lanun ,Saya tanya,kau Tanya Saya balik

Yupp..... Org seletar was classified as one of the proto malay group😁

@@Noshtyyy but it's not considered to Malay deutro😏😏

@@nissannismo4007 ofcoz it isn't..... Bcoz seletars are PROTO malay

@DL2R some muslims still believe.. Like those in bali

@Sofea Yusoff Haha nice attempt but first off Bali are made up of mostly Hindus, if you're talking about Lombok, yes the majority are Muslims. My time, the Orang Seletar are animist. Only when they moved to Johor and mingled, only do some of them converted to Islam.

They're technically Malaysians now after the seperation. Singapore doesn't allow dual citizenship so they can't get Singapore citizenship while mantaining as Orang Seletar.

Hello you got it wrong. It's the Malaysia government. These Seletar people are residing at Johor, Malaysia. Please view again the video.

Lol when you don't know history 😂

This is exactly what happened when you don't watch the whole video and blame the wrong government😂😂

When you are not only a JOKE. But an IDIOT as well!

Lol next time think before you speak!

ilmu is knowledge in malay. but in this case the word "ilmu" is associated more towards the spiritual world or should i say witchcraft.

restu mumpuni As far as I know, it's a malay word derived from arabic word "ilm" that means literally "knowledge". But in this context I think the meaning is "metaphysics" or simply; "magic".

Thank you for feedback, that subtitle not translate 'ilmu' to english. not about magic i think, Maybe that is their ancient belief.

If i'm not wrong....it's the knowledge of black magic i think

Maybe magic can be blessings from spirits:) let us think of it in this manner. It seems to fit the context well.

Mereka memang proto malay pun

They are malay lah😂 org seletar is part of the proto malay

sebab bahasa melayu dah jadi lingua franca dekat nusantara ni dari dulu lagi & satu lagi adalah sebab dia orang malaysia

Mereka masih melayu.. Ingat orang asli tu semua sama kah? Orang asli tu ada 19 suku kaum yg berbeza.. Dalam 19 suku kaum tu, mereka dibahagikan kepada 3 pecahan : - Semang/negrito - sakai/senoi - melayu tua/proto malay Orang asli suku kaum seletar kat atas ni di dalam kumpulan "melayu tua/proto malay".. Mengikut teori barat melayu terbahagi kepada 2 iaitu : 1) deutro malay / melayu modern - orang2 melayu kita sekarang la.. 2) proto malay / melayu tua - dimasukkan kedalam orang asli

She's not a Malay because constitutiom of Malaysia ties Islam to Malay. But genetically, she's an Older Malay.

Siape yang claim?

Tan Ping Yi orang asli malay -proto

Singapore la claim.. Indigenous people of singapore??? But this whole documentary made in JOHOR

Singapura tak claim brothers. Cuba Google Pulau Seletar itu terletak di mana? Mereka tuh diusir waktu pembangunan Singapura. Zaman saya menetap di Kampung Tengah, Sembawang, mereka sudah lama dah ada. Mereka tak punya identitas negara, bukan orang Singapura malah bukan orang Malaysia juga, betul-betul berkeliaran di perairan Punggol/Pasir Gudang hingga Woodlands/Stulang Laut. Kemahiran dan pengatahuan mereka kalau bab laut memang dasyat. Pengalaman saya sendiri waktu kecil ingat lagi setiap hari Jumaat setelah selesai solat Jumaat, org2 kampung saya selalu nya dianjur kepala-kepala keluarga akan berhimpun di tepi pantai untuk berjumpa dengan orang-orang Seletar ini untuk barter trade (kita barter baju dan keperluan/pekakas masak dengan tangkapan laut yang mereka bawa). Saya beruntung dapat berjumpa mereka dan bergaul sama anak-anak mereka kerana sering nya anak-anak kecil tak digalakkan ikut serta, takutnya kita ini terlepas cakap komentar yang tersinggung perasaan mereka. Dan juga saya ingat, mereka ini sering kita minta bantu kalau hal-hal mistik kerna mereka juga cukup pintar aliran ini. Saya harap yang terbaik buat Orang Seletar 😊🙏

Claim ape bende?🤔

LOL nak cakap melayu pendatang ke? Seletar people live at the sea, they do not know much about whats happening on the land, thats why bila nampak org melayu dia ingat org melayu tu bangsa baru

and i believe that orang seletar themselves are the predecessor of bangsa MALAYU. tengok diorang cakap pun fasih dalam bahasa melayu

Rasa dia nak ckp orang cina dan india

Kita Sume sama org NUSANTARA

Proto malay orang asli.. kenapa tidak dipanggil proto cina atau proto india..

Yes they are. LOL. We are Malays. Who are you to tell us otherwise?

@@Khatulistiwan Truth to be told. Instead of classifying yourself as a Malay which may lead to manipulations in the future, why don't you just accept the fact that you actually have your own mother tongue that's not Malay? Triggered much? You don't have to, because it's merely all about ethnicity-based facts.

@@Khatulistiwan Stop call Orang Seletar, Orang Asli are Malays. Even they speak Malay, they aren't belong to Malay culture. Stop Malaysization other indegenous tribe/ community for Malay Supremacy Your political malay supremacy is problem many tribes and indegenous ppl from Malays etnocentrism and primordialism.

😂Sounds so far from Indonesian

Do you speak Malay? She doesn't sound like speaking Indonesian Malay at all

Speak 100% not indonesia

@@Noshtyyy Malay indonesian

Mereka tu Islam ke

Diorang bkan islam.

orang asli,bos.bukan semuanya islam

Ni bahagian org Laut yg bukan Islam barangkali.

khusnul blekty never heard malay archipelago?

Malays & Orang Seletars are both bumiputras, it's just that one became the majority, while there other became a minority. Both are Austronesians.

Orang Seletar are Proto-Malays. They share a common origin with Malays. The only difference is Proto-Malays choose to keep their ancient traditional seafaring lifestyle

Both are Austronesians..... 🤦🏽‍♂️

Orang Laut or Orang asli is Malay too, they are cousin, did you know Sakai, Orang Laut, also live in Sumatra? also Orang Asli also live in South Thailand. Map of Orang Laut(Orang Seletar, Orang Kuala, Orang Kalang, Orang Selat) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sea_Nomads_distribution_map.jpg en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orang_Laut