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Orania’s dark history: the story of South Africa’s whites-only town 

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@LionGangMusic
@LionGangMusic 2 дня назад
ANC is complete and total EMBARRASSMENT mxim
@zamanhlangothi9290
@zamanhlangothi9290 День назад
They should have tackle this problem earlier because during Mandela years there was some sign there of wanting to separate from Mzansi.
@The12archangels
@The12archangels 16 часов назад
I don't know who these people think they are, but Africa is definitely not where they can expect a private country. Anyone who can't live with us is free to go somewhere else. Let's hope a stronger government will end this travesty
@sandanista2002
@sandanista2002 2 дня назад
It’s a shame that the xenophobes don’t have the same heat for Oriana…
@neotrinityrakgajane
@neotrinityrakgajane 2 дня назад
Such a shame.
@sphumelelesijadu
@sphumelelesijadu 2 дня назад
The distraction is part of the plan. Fighting immigrants means we loose focus on what will truely liberate us.
@lovedlover2667
@lovedlover2667 2 дня назад
Not at all..the african foreigners are directly affect blk SAns, commuting crimes that oriano is not. Why trouble them when they are living in peace...don't get it twisted. It's yrs ways how you behave badly that's why u are cast out by the SAn blks
@PatrickJacobs-u1f
@PatrickJacobs-u1f 2 дня назад
You mean illegal foreigners? World wide there is growing resistance to illegal immigration and rightly so.
@supreme9801
@supreme9801 2 дня назад
Apples and oranges
@mlulekimemela798
@mlulekimemela798 2 дня назад
My brother please have a sit down with Penuel to further engage on this issue because he's came out to strongly defend the existence of Orania especially after visiting this town!
@FlorenceSeptember
@FlorenceSeptember 18 часов назад
Those people took their own money to build Orania they work hard to have what they have today.
@FlorenceSeptember
@FlorenceSeptember 18 часов назад
There are many black only towns!!!! Can we buy in the villages????
@boipelojoe
@boipelojoe 15 часов назад
​@@FlorenceSeptemberThere's no Black only town in South African. Anyone can live anywhere
@arafatcham2306
@arafatcham2306 14 часов назад
@@FlorenceSeptemberyou sound like a chump
@arafatcham2306
@arafatcham2306 13 часов назад
I don’t understand how South Africans take penuel seriously. He tries to please everyone
@traumaqueeen
@traumaqueeen 2 дня назад
Why are people triggered by our history and the past? Why can't we talk about the past without certain people getting upset??
@lungamasuku6872
@lungamasuku6872 2 дня назад
Because as a nation we have never worked on the wounds of the past,we are still hurt and still suffering the worse thing about it is we could all heal each other but some of us simply don’t want to give the sacrifice it would cost!,for some of us the price for redemption is just too high so they don’t want to talk about it so you can understand their negative emotions when the topic comes up
@Mastah0909
@Mastah0909 2 дня назад
It's called guilt my sister.
@MosesNdlovu-l1p
@MosesNdlovu-l1p 2 дня назад
Funny how Jews and world war veterans are allowed to remind us on an annual basis, yet when it comes to apartheid, we are told just to move on and forget.
@markriordan9010
@markriordan9010 2 дня назад
​@@Mastah0909...really ? WRONG !! The guilty ones are mostly either deceased or in homes....look ahead, move on, avoid victimhood, show some backbone and desire to elevate yourself....just be aware that there's plenty of legislation on the books which certainly doesn't favour Whites....put the past behind you, 'cos there's NOTHING you can do to change it.
@khanyiswamagidimisi3174
@khanyiswamagidimisi3174 2 дня назад
Why are u feeling guilty?
@kamohelobastos3565
@kamohelobastos3565 23 часа назад
Dr Sizwe must be protected at all cost long live the SMWX!
@Cper2000
@Cper2000 10 часов назад
Crackpot Dr
@brianr4960
@brianr4960 2 дня назад
"When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles" - Frank Herbert
@berniediedricks5681
@berniediedricks5681 2 дня назад
Exactly what 😈🇮🇱Zionist Apartheid Genocidal Land grabbing Occupier regime was forced on🇵🇸Palestians, they opened their land 4 😈🇮🇱Zionists a sect within Judaism✡️
@nzuzonuba8876
@nzuzonuba8876 2 дня назад
South Africa is the most unequal country, it's not just about Oraina. Classism, elitesm, rich and poor. It's a space of segregation. Just that in Orania they are honest.
@nozizwechinkanda7895
@nozizwechinkanda7895 День назад
The US is the same. It just escapes a label.
@pablocharlie
@pablocharlie День назад
@@nozizwechinkanda7895Yea sure go rap or buy some jordans 😂 victim minded cry baby do you need a grief counselor?
@JohnDorian-j7x
@JohnDorian-j7x День назад
@@nozizwechinkanda7895 Bro... get out of here. All you Americans act with this almost snooty air of "oh, you could never be as bad as us" "we're so bad, you could never begin to understand us". Get out of here, you are not helping.
@lettuceandtomatoes89
@lettuceandtomatoes89 День назад
@nzuzonuba8876 Can't agree more! Unfortunately, some of those children are going to be adults, leave that enclave, get into positions of power and we, normal SAns, are going to have to interact (at least professionally) with them over and above the general SA you just described. Oh, malifezeke iphupha lika Biko...
@stevenwilliams3015
@stevenwilliams3015 День назад
​@@nozizwechinkanda7895Nahhh, the wealth gap between white and black in South Africa is extremely high compared to the white and black in US
@Kwazulujabul
@Kwazulujabul 2 дня назад
Apartheid: I need to correct you Apart-: means separate -heid: does not mean HATE Please educate yourself in the Afrikaans language if you want to spread it as the truth. You are stoking hatered and misinformation in the video.
@nedor64
@nedor64 2 дня назад
Apart-: means separate -heid: does not mean HATE 👍teaching the "Dr" 😂
@garethnaude1175
@garethnaude1175 День назад
Sizwe never said “heid” means hate. Go listen again
@mogirl94
@mogirl94 День назад
Regardless of whether he is right or wrong. Apartheid is full of hate
@ruby-annlevendal2294
@ruby-annlevendal2294 День назад
LISTEN AGAIN BEFORE YOU CORRECT, YOU ARE MISREPRESENTING WHAT WAS SAID.
@ruby-annlevendal2294
@ruby-annlevendal2294 День назад
Both of you should go listen again... you hear what you like
@mundusuys8739
@mundusuys8739 2 дня назад
Do I think segregation is a good thing? Forced segregation is a bad thing, natural segregation is a natural thing, natural integration is a natural thing and forced integration is a bad thing.
@KNathi1
@KNathi1 2 дня назад
What was natural about Orania?
@traumaqueeen
@traumaqueeen 2 дня назад
Stop gaslighting us pls!
@mundusuys8739
@mundusuys8739 2 дня назад
@@KNathi1 Naturally, all people tend to associate with others that speak the same language, eat the same food, have the same political view, support the same sports team, have the same religion, like the same TV show, work in the same profession/trade, have the same problems, come from the same town, etc. There's nothing wrong with having a cultural enclave if you're one of few culturally backward Afrikaners. It's pathetic to be bothered by them.
@chronosmagasaurus2813
@chronosmagasaurus2813 2 дня назад
@@traumaqueeen Lmao you should be the last one talking, all your comments are race bait.
@StrikeMathebula
@StrikeMathebula 2 дня назад
@@mundusuys8739 why are u trying to be relevant
@lovehandles2464
@lovehandles2464 2 дня назад
I am a coloured guy, I don't care about Orania, those people want to be left alone. They don't give me sleepless nights or prevent me from living my life in anyway. As long as they are a small town on privately owned land, I don't see why we should keep moaning about this issue.
@KNathi1
@KNathi1 2 дня назад
They want to grow the town
@Kush-Kemet
@Kush-Kemet 2 дня назад
Palestinians were thinking like you when Europeans and Americans settled Jews in their LAND
@Hailey-i7v
@Hailey-i7v 2 дня назад
You not black you don’t get it
@traumaqueeen
@traumaqueeen 2 дня назад
You sound like Palestinians who welcomed European settlers into their homes, only to get their homes and land stolen. Thats what European settlers do, steal land! its their thing
@thendombengeni7443
@thendombengeni7443 2 дня назад
Yeah they're in Africa buddy No one is stopping them from going back to their ancestral country. This orania shit is an abomination
@ConsciousCaracal
@ConsciousCaracal 2 дня назад
If a town of 3000 people, which you probably can't even find on a map, is giving you sleepless nights, you don't have any real problems or struggles. I can't imagine a more comfortable, luxurious, privileged life than one where one of your biggest worries is the fact that Orania exists.
@AndydeQok
@AndydeQok 2 дня назад
Oranje is a racist/ apartheid place within a democratic non-racial country. It’s not yet a big worry, but it will be one day. It won’t end well for anyone unfortunately.
@alexandernyamazana4795
@alexandernyamazana4795 2 дня назад
Why should it exist in the first place, stop gaslighting us with your racist comments, would an Orania populated by black people exist anywhere in Europe?
@africaine4889
@africaine4889 2 дня назад
Little.cities become big towns. Look at the Mormons in the US. They started very small. Now they have whole state in America
@DANY-ez1xr
@DANY-ez1xr 2 дня назад
Stop being lazy to use your head and think. Places like Orania, where the history they glorify is one of segregation only intensifies and reproduces racist views and actions. Once a town like Orania succeeds in the country they would want to expand, encourage and influence the same segregate mindset to other communities. To allow for such, is consent to bring back nonsense, expand inequality, influence separation and racism.
@vulpesinculta3238
@vulpesinculta3238 День назад
@@gorereel.r2780 Why shouldn't they be? They seem to be doing well - in fact, they seem to be doing better than anywhere else in South Africa. So whatever they're doing, it's better than what the rest of you are doing.
@gerarddeclerck3939
@gerarddeclerck3939 2 дня назад
..you forgot to mention the crime stats in Orania
@thabo3866
@thabo3866 День назад
Is this the topic of discussion?
@gerarddeclerck3939
@gerarddeclerck3939 День назад
@@thabo3866 Well if you prefer the topic chosen by the Prof of reviving racial hatred, be my quest, I only thought one positive aspect of Orania may have been in order considering 30 years of democracy in the rest of the country has delivered mostly violence, corruption and destruction. Perhaps our learned friend can learn something from Prof Boshoff.
@thabo3866
@thabo3866 День назад
@@gerarddeclerck3939 No no no.. You guys never want to be critiqued that's the problem. it's fine when Sizwe discusses ANC corruption the whole month, but as soon as he touches other sensitive issues that make whites uncomfortable, it's either he's "inciting racial hate" or "playing the victim" it doesn't work like that! Are you telling me you see the anomaly of having a "whites-only" town in a country with a history like ours?
@thabo3866
@thabo3866 День назад
@@gerarddeclerck3939 I asked if crime stats were the topic of discussion or not..
@sonjaswart9866
@sonjaswart9866 День назад
@@gerarddeclerck3939 Sê hom. Daar is zero crime in Orania😂.
@pumeleleza4094
@pumeleleza4094 2 дня назад
I call upon all high school history teachers to play this episode in class and proceed to have a test or assignment written about it 🎉
@kylelangton2718
@kylelangton2718 2 дня назад
Marxist propaganda
@jacquesdewet2661
@jacquesdewet2661 2 дня назад
Let them also teach about Camp Quadro.
@vut_zarco
@vut_zarco 2 дня назад
Critical race theory has no place in our education system and hopefully the GNU would quash it.
@markriordan9010
@markriordan9010 2 дня назад
Our kids today are brainwashed and forced to learn ONLY about apartheid, colonialism and everything related to how evil the White man was, and always will be. I was shocked to learn that my son, at a very good dual-medium school, knew NOTHING about the Vorrtrekkers, the Great Trek, the Anglo-Boer wars, the Zulu-Xhosa wars...so much TRUE history just omitted, deliberately. He knows everything about apartheid, Ghandi and all "heroes of the struggle"....
@bigthangz5489
@bigthangz5489 2 дня назад
tell us more
@carlruppert7324
@carlruppert7324 2 дня назад
As a white Afrikaans-speaking South African, I would just like to say that Orania does not represent me and I want NOTHING to do with them 🇿🇦
@sahiphopNETWORK
@sahiphopNETWORK 2 дня назад
why doesn't it represent you i thought it was just about preserving Afrikaner culture? are you not afraid that your culture will be destroyed by the blacks
@berniediedricks5681
@berniediedricks5681 2 дня назад
Awesome that's so powerful and uniting❤️
@Kwazulujabul
@Kwazulujabul 2 дня назад
You will not be forced to live in Orania, Mr Woke
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub 2 дня назад
Most Afrikaners don't want to live in Orania which is why the population is so small. That doesn't mean that it doesn't have a right to exist. However , claiming that it is race based is just stupid.
@Aftertwentyfourelection4633
@Aftertwentyfourelection4633 2 дня назад
​@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ubif its not race baced why "only white"?
@sibongilechakela4468
@sibongilechakela4468 2 дня назад
ANC really sold us out
@Tizza.21
@Tizza.21 2 дня назад
Sizwe must be protected at all costs..
@Cper2000
@Cper2000 10 часов назад
You need to protect yourself from the insanity of Sizwe. Use your brain to think and stop blaming the world for your problems!
@cally2011
@cally2011 2 дня назад
Something crazy about Orania. They dont even try to exploit through cheap labour. They just draw a line, thats it
@thecryptoguy8381
@thecryptoguy8381 День назад
They don't want a black face in their projects
@thapelolengana
@thapelolengana День назад
The greatest problem we did is to let our welbeing totally in the hands of politicians.
@brettlinn3063
@brettlinn3063 2 дня назад
Sizwe, The land of Orania was legally bought. We dont know the truth around the real story of the people who needed to be evicted. When someone buys a property, the tenants or previous owners must move. Its not rocket science. Now i dont approve of violence in any way. But the 500 workers did not originally live in orania. They only moved their for the building of the Dam. So originally they did not come from there and they did not legally own the land. I think the gaslighting is coming from your video.
@Mastah0909
@Mastah0909 2 дня назад
You have completely missed his point. I don't even have the energy to elaborate to you. This comment alone is sufficient.
@brettlinn3063
@brettlinn3063 День назад
@@Mastah0909 the point my dear, is that every cultural group in SA has the constitutional right to self determination. I will respect if black communities want to live separately from white communities in order to preserve a way of life that white people may not be compatible for. Afrikaner culture is completely different and incompatible with african culture and sometimes my own culture been the English culture. Sizwe argument is completely emotionally driven. And you can hear it in his voice.
@shanghaichica
@shanghaichica День назад
@@brettlinn3063so you are pro segregation then?
@brettlinn3063
@brettlinn3063 День назад
@@shanghaichica I'm pro having people deciding what cultural community they choose to live in.
@lettuceandtomatoes89
@lettuceandtomatoes89 День назад
@@brettlinn3063To quote you, "I will respect if black communities want to live separately from white communities in order to preserve a way of life that white people may not be compatible for" @Mastah0909 was right....
@mohlomphehi
@mohlomphehi 2 дня назад
4 min in and I am reminded of the history of my own people and how Lesotho as we know it lost parts of what is modern day Free State to the Boers who were allowed to peacefuly settle in the Free State by King Moshoeshoe back in the mid 1800's who had no idea of their covert scheme to pursue their imperial agenda. Funny how history keeps repeating itself because we never seem to learn!
@katlehokomeke
@katlehokomeke 2 дня назад
Sizwe you are engaging in slander. They guy explicitly said that he would avoid violence and you’re portraying it as if he has already made plans to kill in the name of Orania should the status of Orania be changed.
@eloisnaraidoo7339
@eloisnaraidoo7339 День назад
The ANC will allow for Orania to become a Volkstad. The only way to prevent this from happening is to vote them down to 10%.
@ronelpeens7366
@ronelpeens7366 День назад
So would you be ok if I came and pushed my roots in your cultural village😂😂😂😂
@bingbong8239
@bingbong8239 2 дня назад
I remember seeing article on the town about how a politician raised taxes for the soul purpose of buying some expensive car and I remembered "Wow, that was quick." African nations need to take notes on Botswana's anti-corruption schemes
@toosiie214
@toosiie214 12 часов назад
It raises the question of why certain groups, who seem to reject integration into the broader South African society, don't choose to relocate to Europe, where they may feel a greater cultural alignment. Additionally, it’s worth considering why there hasn’t been stronger governmental action, such as sanctions, against those isolated communities that continue to distance themselves from national norms and values.
@chriskewe4238
@chriskewe4238 День назад
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@_SMWX
@_SMWX День назад
🙏🏽
@NestaVision2007
@NestaVision2007 День назад
In the U.S., it is commonly known that there are what are known as "Sundown towns". These are towns that aren't "officially all white", however it is commonly known that Blacks should not be there after dark. Living in Texas, the town of Vidor, Texas is one of many many towns in the U.S. with such reputations.
@garyyoung6125
@garyyoung6125 День назад
Many many towns only have blacks or latinos there . Are you complaining ??
@smanqele
@smanqele День назад
It's just despicable the things we accept in our land South Africa.
@ernestrobbertse8544
@ernestrobbertse8544 2 дня назад
Orania is the best run squatter camp in Mzansi. All squatter camp leaders should be taken there to learn squatter camp management. Maybe also some municipal managers
@Josephalive101
@Josephalive101 День назад
Where do you get squatter camps that are similar or same to Orania?
@proud_african8148
@proud_african8148 День назад
​@@Josephalive101😂 comprehension is not your friend, the statement went over your head.
@thabo3866
@thabo3866 День назад
This is not even the topic of discussion but hey
День назад
perfect its the best managed best built why cant we go and learn how to build towns
@MentalFacility-u7o
@MentalFacility-u7o День назад
To equate Orania to a squatter camp is an insult to the former. I get your point thou.
@mapasekakhanye1418
@mapasekakhanye1418 2 дня назад
That's how they want to live.Away from. poverty and R350 mentality.Leave them alone.
@JohnTerblanche-l1r
@JohnTerblanche-l1r День назад
Ive always thought thats all its about, money. Im from EC and 2 of my Afr friends went there for jobs, 1 eventually ended up in kzn with his work experience gained and other is a garden boy still in O. Both friends weren't proud of being there but they did get a job there. Getting a job in such a contracted economy like SA is very hard unless your an entrepreneur. I disagree with O as an concept, but I understand why people go there to study or for work opportunities, afrikaans young men especially from EC. EC has so much potential yet it's poorest prov in SA.
@stevekgaogelo4108
@stevekgaogelo4108 День назад
Poor black South Africans have never begged the government for R350 Grant. The ANC government created that grant without the approval of the people of South Africa. The where did you see this R350 mentality if may ask? 😂
@tebohomolemahang
@tebohomolemahang 17 часов назад
A quick reminder that the ANC and the DA finds nothing wrong with Orania's existence and whatever it represents
@thabo3866
@thabo3866 День назад
Afrikaner culture always feel the need to be protected like it's the only culture that's special
@zabadackakaHansCoche
@zabadackakaHansCoche День назад
It is special, like any other culture is special.
@sonjaswart9866
@sonjaswart9866 День назад
@@thabo3866 Afrikaners protect themselves. And you're right. Every tribe is indeed special. Protect your own tribe, you have every right to do so. One tribe not more important than the other. Be proud of who you are, then be proud of our diversity, striving to make RSA better for all of us who are true patriots. Diversity does not mean DEVISION. Away witj devision, in with UNITED DIVERSITY. Viva, RSA. First the country then the people.🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦💪🏾💪🏽💪🏼💪🏻💪🏿🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
@thabo3866
@thabo3866 День назад
@@sonjaswart9866 Protecting one's culture is one thing, but excluding others on the basis of protecting one's culture is another. Afrikaner culture is not special to warrant all this "protection"..Protection from what even?
@sonjaswart9866
@sonjaswart9866 День назад
@@thabo3866 don't fret. No point in arguing. RSA first. Diversity, not devision. Patriots unite. The country before the people. Viva RSA🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@thabo3866
@thabo3866 День назад
@@sonjaswart9866 I'm Not arguing, I just don't see how Afrikaner culture should place itself above other cultures that's all
@anelemlozana6933
@anelemlozana6933 День назад
The same ANC government that fought off apartheid and is helping Palestine fight an apartheid state like Israel is risking a Israel Luke situation by allowing Orania to operate in South Africa.
@johnkelly3886
@johnkelly3886 2 дня назад
The transition to majority rule democracy was not peaceful. There was widespread violence: the train massacres, the township wars, and a low grade civil war in KZN. We were only too happy, to let a small group of Afrikaners set up a whitostan, in a small town in the Northern Cape; if this could facilitate the transition. We thought nothing much would come of it. And, we were right. The vast majority of whites prefer the opportunities offered by the new South Africa, even if they incessantly whine on about majority rule.
@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
We need more oranias, places that work ,produce and export, exemplary
@siphamandlamkhize9766
@siphamandlamkhize9766 4 часа назад
What has Orania produced that benefits South Africa?
@hwpienaar
@hwpienaar День назад
The conversation PENUEL the black pen had with the leader of Orania is a must watch. This delivery is very subjective.
@zakzack2222
@zakzack2222 День назад
I don't think you listened to this narrative with an open mind. The approach was very historic and research based on findings by Edward Cavanagh.
@JohnDorian-j7x
@JohnDorian-j7x День назад
Everything he brought up was based on undisputed historical fact. Now, maybe Orania has escaped its historical past and is now what many say it is (i.e., generally good)... but the fact that people on the pro-Orania side actively avoid and ignore this relatively recent past, doesn't speak exactly well for them. Maybe it is or maybe it isn't; but you definitely shouldn't ignore the "other" side just because its not "pleasant" to bring up or discuss.
@Babazulu
@Babazulu День назад
He’s a member of dutchforum 😅
@thecryptoguy8381
@thecryptoguy8381 День назад
You are confused bro
@edwardabrahams2353
@edwardabrahams2353 2 дня назад
my friend, leave Orania, ALONE! let people live the way they choose to live, they are Not a harm to anyone.
@siphamandlamkhize9766
@siphamandlamkhize9766 4 часа назад
it's weird to Africans it does not make sense, that's why other Africans are mocking and laughing at us
@bishopjay
@bishopjay 2 дня назад
It was a town yesterday and today it's a town and tomorrow it would be a country
@fennimegamenoangukku6138
@fennimegamenoangukku6138 День назад
Exactly the concern by many, you can’t have a small country within a country period
@IonizedComa
@IonizedComa День назад
​@fennimegamenoangukku6138 So are we going to stop Lesotho from existing as well?
@stefniehatzimichael209
@stefniehatzimichael209 День назад
That's called working&building, not stealing and lazy like anc😢
@jnel2879
@jnel2879 День назад
@@fennimegamenoangukku6138 boo hoo
@Cyp372
@Cyp372 День назад
​@@gorereel.r2780 Let the Americans and European take them like they did in 1994 and currently do. The whites need to exit. Their people are willing to accept them back
@charmir1
@charmir1 2 дня назад
I don't agree. BEE and corruption led to this. There is no oppression just a right to be with yoir own culture. Loads of jealousy because they do things on their own. You are mistruing Orania. I question your motive. Why not encourage other comunities to take pride and take responsibility for themselves. There is, always the trend that because a culture of handouts was created there is no pride left. Just saying don't attack people thatvdo things from themselves rather encourage creativity, self care. No one stops tge other races to do the same or better
@alfredphamotse1316
@alfredphamotse1316 2 дня назад
we demand a proportional representation in the high tables of wealth and real power, BEE will help us catch up faster, regulated corruption is what Apartheid was based on and it benefited a certain group at the expense of another...
@charmir1
@charmir1 День назад
@@alfredphamotse1316 ha ha Yes look how prosperous your kind has become🤣🤣you still live with hate and demands. Where is anything you have built and achieved….,waiting and waiting and waiting You have to take from others as you have no drive or initiative or to actually earn it Unfortunately you will always feel second best because of this attitude
@thabo3866
@thabo3866 День назад
You don't see a problem of a "whites-only" town in a country with a history of Apartheid? You really live in a bubble. typical though
@Cyp372
@Cyp372 День назад
You cannot migrate to a western country and establish a region or town only for a certain group of people. It's unacceptable that the South African government accepts this. They need to deport these people and nullify there South Africa citizenship.
@Emmanuelshoroma
@Emmanuelshoroma День назад
Please stop it. Orania was formed long before BEE can even be a policy. It was formed out of black hate. simple as that. ANC messed up by allowing such to even happen
@Jeffreylaughs
@Jeffreylaughs 2 дня назад
Mandela really sold us out
@mrmusanda3576
@mrmusanda3576 2 дня назад
Mandela is a decoy Dove - PM Botha
@SambiliANGOLensis
@SambiliANGOLensis 2 дня назад
@@mrmusanda3576 and pm botha is? Your grand fada?
@sibongilechakela4468
@sibongilechakela4468 2 дня назад
Ramaphosa is worse
@ngwzi5229
@ngwzi5229 2 дня назад
The entire ANC
@hantieprins3891
@hantieprins3891 2 дня назад
Why..should Mandela have killed all whites ! You are bein sold out by your very own people...the ANC/EFF who lives high and mighty when the rest have to fight for a living.. and it is not the white man's fault.. get off your lazy..b--.. and do something for yourself.. first off.. get rid of our so-called government..
@TheSouthAfricanPost
@TheSouthAfricanPost 2 дня назад
Oronia is zone based on past policy of separate development and thus it makes it an apartheid nostalgia group.
@nedor64
@nedor64 2 дня назад
Orania is developing rapidly, the people there are happy, they enjoy their human rights and they are showing this corrupt, crime ridden SA the way.
@markriordan9010
@markriordan9010 2 дня назад
Absolute bullshit ! Shortsighted comment.
@SambiliANGOLensis
@SambiliANGOLensis 2 дня назад
@@nedor64 black south africans will wake up … some day, any day. And we’ll be here to support them
@nedor64
@nedor64 2 дня назад
@@SambiliANGOLensis No problem support them if you want to.
@gleestruwe1818
@gleestruwe1818 2 дня назад
​ Why would you not clapp u r hands in wonder for white ppl holding there white being and language , look at ur own hate 🤫an wash it clean , what a punk 🤔
@Kwazulujabul
@Kwazulujabul 2 дня назад
Sizwe you are half British, studied in the U.K. In our South African history the English are just as much part of Apartheid as the Afrikaner. Your ancestors participated in Apartheid.
@michellerisimati
@michellerisimati День назад
The English and the Afrikaneer don’t get along. Remember there was a war between the English and the Afrikaneer when the Afrikaneer wanted to take over South Africa, Winston Churchill himself participated in the war. South Africa was one of the few countries to form part of the commonwealth. In 1947, I think a year or few months before apartheid was legal King George the 6 (Late Queen Elizabeth II) father visited South Africa and part of the reason was to stop the Afrikaneer from legalising Apartheid and taking over South Africa. I’m not defending the British yes they colonised etc but Apartheid was the Afrikaneer 💯 even though the British also indirectly benefited.
@sonjaswart9866
@sonjaswart9866 День назад
Netso. Hierdie ou wil vir ons kom preek, maar sy ma behoort aan dis nasie wat die grootste colonizers is! Sizwe is not credible.
@agrid2608
@agrid2608 День назад
What a weird thing to say. Do you know how many black South Africans over the last 400 years are of mixed blood? I am not even talking about those who use the "coloured" label today. I am talking about Xhosas, Tswanas, Sothos, etc. Winnie Mandela is mixed. So is Nelson.
@Kwazulujabul
@Kwazulujabul День назад
@@agrid2608 There for they are 50% white privileged. The white population in SA are constantly reminded of their white privilege status. I there say if you have white DNA you should acknowledge 50% of the blame. Because of Sizwe’s privileged background he also benefited by being able to study in the U.K.
@shanghaichica
@shanghaichica День назад
@@Kwazulujabulbut wouldn’t the other 50% cancel it out so. So even using your silly analogy he has no ‘blame’. He has the right to his own opinion.
@SeelanSingaram
@SeelanSingaram 10 часов назад
Only a giant of the magnitude of Mandela can show such a unifying act..... Few can understand but millions have benifited from his humbleness
@Grootkoos
@Grootkoos День назад
I know that you do not purport to be an objective commentator but I do believe you should do your homework a little bit better. Read up about Professor Carel Boshoff and the reasons why he and his group started Orania. The Citizen, SAPA and the Pretoria News reported extensively on this in the late 1980's. Also, I know you do not like comparing Orania to the Ingonyama Trust but you should. The Zulu king gets active financial support from the government to maintain this Zulu enclave where no White person would ever be allowed to reside but no such support is given to Orania - not that they would want it or ask for it. Leave the people be. They bother no one and in fact has a lot to teach the rest of South Africa on how to survive in a country where corruption and greed has destroyed the very fabric of our nation - something Prof Boshoff predicted.
@_SMWX
@_SMWX День назад
And where exactly was it ever stated that “no white person would ever be allowed to reside…”? 🤔
@solutions36512
@solutions36512 2 дня назад
There is nothing wrong with a whites only town. It's only a problem because of it's success and prosperity in comparison to black and coloured townships. Instead of contributing to the hatred within South Africa, figure out what thry did right and copy it as an example to other towns and cities across the country.
@sinazomakileni3938
@sinazomakileni3938 День назад
There is everything wrong with segregation, with excluding people of a certain skin color in that town. Wrong
@Cyp372
@Cyp372 День назад
You and the residents of Orania need to graciously leave the country. But of course you like to stay to take full advantage of your privilege in South Africa and the ability to abuse them
@Emmanuelshoroma
@Emmanuelshoroma День назад
everything is wrong with it. no space for such in morden world. Orania shouldnt be existing
@YvesDarbouze
@YvesDarbouze 2 дня назад
This type of media is so needed. I know this modern history. It’s amazing how 1991 is ancient history to South Africans
@berniediedricks5681
@berniediedricks5681 2 дня назад
So important with Heritage Day 2mrw, wonder if it's a public holiday in orania🤔
@gorereel.r2780
@gorereel.r2780 День назад
And apartheid perps are so happy to move on
@khalilhuman9901
@khalilhuman9901 День назад
@@YvesDarbouze No it’s not needed, it keeps getting him views and subscribers #clickbait look at the thumbnail “Shameful “ “ whites only”
@sirkermitthefirstoffrogeth9622
This dude ia out here spewing misinformation, as usual. Orania isn't a whites only town, its a Afrikaans only town. Meaning if you are of French, English or German descent, you cant join the town. Even if you are Afrikaans, you cant join if you have a criminal record. The land was privately purchased and negotiated with the government to protect Afrikaner heritage. They are the equivalent to the Amish community in America and Ulundi and Pheonix in KZN. Get your facts right.
@tiMos-w1n
@tiMos-w1n 2 дня назад
No not the same. THEY EUROPEANS TRYING TO STEAL AFRICA
@alfredphamotse1316
@alfredphamotse1316 2 дня назад
don't compare the incomparable, the Amish are not pushing a currency , a flag an anthem and a cultist education system within USA state lines...they should go and have a white only town in Europe not here in this continent of 99% black people...its a democracy and the majority rules...
@zazzleq6139
@zazzleq6139 День назад
@@alfredphamotse1316thank you. Re tsile go ba kgemetha one day.
@letlhogilemothoagae8198
@letlhogilemothoagae8198 2 дня назад
Im one of those blacks who see the reported positives of present-day Orania and wish more villages in the North West were the same. Im thinking Dinokana, Lekubu, Gopane among many others who seem to have similar origins and similar opportunities to prosper like their "sister community", Orania. Looking at this it seems that my desire for prosperous black communities at any cost can actually come at the cost of moral and ethical naivity and blindness. Its made worse by the blatant lack of desire to engage with questions of Justice towards black people who suffered as a result of the evils of Apardheid. You dug SMW, you dug real deep for this one. Yet again, you force me to reconsider my position on race. ❤
@veronicafarrell6676
@veronicafarrell6676 День назад
This is simple minded thinking as it ignores the material deprivation of the communities you mention. You ignore the power of capital and supremacist thinking that sustains Orania.
@Cper2000
@Cper2000 9 часов назад
Sizwe reads and ignores comments not supporting his warped narratives. But we hear you!
@noluthandodiliza8957
@noluthandodiliza8957 День назад
Leave Orania alone they worked hard to keep their establishment clean. I'm not informed about it but I like that there are no drugs and no corruption and no illegal immigrants and dealings.
@NinohBrown
@NinohBrown День назад
You are slow thinking and lack a sense of awareness and danger this has. Orania can become a Lesotho they can literally become their own country, once that happens the USA or Nato will set up military bases there just like palestine or Ukraine. Be forward thinking
@traumaqueeen
@traumaqueeen 2 дня назад
So many racists in the comments 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍
@lungamasuku6872
@lungamasuku6872 2 дня назад
@@vnlpat001so what term should we use to call white Sattlers and the descendants of Colonizers and colonialists and land thieves??,to call white South Africans that is just factual and not a n insult at all!,its just true
@chronosmagasaurus2813
@chronosmagasaurus2813 2 дня назад
Yup, you are one of them :}
@bigthangz5489
@bigthangz5489 2 дня назад
They dont want TRUTH to be exposed !!!
@kamohelomoloi
@kamohelomoloi 2 дня назад
Sista you are beautiful
@sirkermitthefirstoffrogeth9622
​@@bigthangz5489 here's the truth then. This dude ia out here spewing misinformation, as usual. Orania isn't a whites only town, its a Afrikaans only town. Meaning if you are of French, English or German descent, you cant join the town. Even if you are Afrikaans, you cant join if you have a criminal record. The land was privately purchased and negotiated with the government to protect Afrikaner heritage. They are the equivalent to the Amish community in America and Ulundi and Pheonix in KZN.
@jazzytza5514
@jazzytza5514 2 дня назад
Thank you Bra Sizwe✌️. As a young South African i have been empowered by this channel and your inputs have shed light to topics that are somewhat ignored or marginaised in the South African mainstream media. Ayeye✌️❤️
@Cper2000
@Cper2000 10 часов назад
The Calvary's not coming to save you bru, nor is Dr Sizwe. Go back to work, no handouts are coming.
@garethnaude1175
@garethnaude1175 День назад
“If you are agains segregation you have to be against Orania.” This right here. This is the point. It’s not about protecting heritage, self determination, whether Orania is big enough to “warrant” discussion, or any of the other red herrings in the comments. If segregation is wrong - which it it fundamentally is as an affront to the humanity of all people - the Orania, which categorically is based on segregation, is wrong.
@_SMWX
@_SMWX День назад
100%
@Emmanuelshoroma
@Emmanuelshoroma День назад
well said
@sollymothabela7513
@sollymothabela7513 День назад
Why have sleepless nightsabout Orania.
@ThembinkosiJack
@ThembinkosiJack 2 дня назад
ANC sold out long time ago,
@Ritesh-yy1zr
@Ritesh-yy1zr 2 дня назад
Yep, in the 90s already
@PhilidaFortune
@PhilidaFortune 2 дня назад
Why must you all sing a song of sixpence .... how long are you all going to continue? You have an ALL ZULU LAND... where you, Sizwe is not allowed to own property.... ULUNDI. They own all that land but the do not produce food for the Zulu nation.
@MlungisiCiti
@MlungisiCiti 2 дня назад
By law & principle(spirit of our constitution) that farmland(orania)must be confiscated/ expropriated by the state,those who seek separation should move back to Netherlands,UK etc,their days are numbered, revolution is unfolding in SA🇿🇦🔥
@Mzukisi_Gwata
@Mzukisi_Gwata День назад
I remember that Mandela visit to Orania. Mandela's obsession with reconciliation was just too much to be honest.
@101CapeSaf
@101CapeSaf День назад
What is shameful about people wanting to live a clean respectful life where everyone have jobs, food on the table, education without unlawful interference, no crime, clean streets etc; etc;
@_SMWX
@_SMWX День назад
And all of those things can’t exist in a community that includes all races? 🤔
@101CapeSaf
@101CapeSaf День назад
@@_SMWX nobody is saying it cannot but when you have politicians stocking the fire instead of putting it out the problems we have in the country will not seize. Power hungry and greedy politicians are destroying this country you vote for them they get their foot in the door and they are on their way and you are still battling to survive.
@thatoram7872
@thatoram7872 День назад
Problems in South Africa runs very deep than Orania.
@drkmttr-u8b
@drkmttr-u8b 2 дня назад
If a white person went to a village in rural KZN, for example, and requested to be a part of their community. Would the village be held to the same expectation to accept them into their community irresective of their identity? I'm certain there would be villages that would accept them with open arms but I would have a guess that some would surely reject them based on identity.
@smanqele
@smanqele 2 дня назад
Irony is a large part of rural South Africa is white owned. Some areas for example in Pretoria for example may seem not rural, but they are. So to discriminate based on being in a rural area is kinda funny
@KhanyisoNtloko
@KhanyisoNtloko День назад
It happens all the time, white people are welcome in villages and townships 😂😅😂
@KamvaSeteni-m3t
@KamvaSeteni-m3t День назад
We have whites in townships
@Emmanuelshoroma
@Emmanuelshoroma День назад
There is no policy of rejecting anyone based on colour in KZN or any rural that i know of. Orania has a a policy. completely different.
@katlegokoma1976
@katlegokoma1976 День назад
Orania is Israel of 1948, our children will suffer because we did not act on this threat now!
@DonaldChiyangwa
@DonaldChiyangwa 2 дня назад
The racists in the comment section are needed to remind us of what is actually happening in our country, not this false and nonsensical idea that we're a united "rainbow nation". Check how vile the ANC's alliance partners are in these comments...
@chronosmagasaurus2813
@chronosmagasaurus2813 2 дня назад
Yes, we are reminded everyday that 9% voted for EFF, the most racist of all and you all gathered here to cry abt a tiny piece of land in the middle of nowhere :)
@sellomotshepe594
@sellomotshepe594 День назад
Anc are happy to comply as long as they are sorted, if any one is south africa don't see that ANC sold out long time ago they are ignorant.
@DonaldChiyangwa
@DonaldChiyangwa День назад
@@sellomotshepe594 We're on our own Sgalo. The alliance with the DA only amplified what many have been saying that they sold us out many years ago. Slowly but surely batho ba di bona di satane tse gore ga se batho and they're punishing them at the ballots.
@dk-ne6fd
@dk-ne6fd 2 дня назад
The fact this community still exists in South Africa shows that South Africa is not sovereign. Apartheid is clearly thriving and still exists. There is no rationalizing this paradox
@thabo3866
@thabo3866 День назад
Yup!
@victorswart8388
@victorswart8388 День назад
Apartheid thrives in your mind.
@dk-ne6fd
@dk-ne6fd День назад
@@victorswart8388 not at all. It’s not a state of mind when you have a real life community that exists practicing white supremacy in South Africa. Supposedly the country that abolished apartheid. The irony is is real.
@Filander-c3o
@Filander-c3o День назад
If you hate us this much give us Orania and we will keep paying tax and receive nothing from the government. Is that not good enough for you? Why do you NEED to be around the Afrikaners? Are you not happy in your own community with your own people?
@michielnel88
@michielnel88 2 дня назад
The way you are describing Orania makes it literally sound like Heaven of Earth! 🤩
@smanqele
@smanqele День назад
I don't see that at all. He's describing the unsolved crimes that happened there involving vulnerable people whom until today still need an answer
@fennimegamenoangukku6138
@fennimegamenoangukku6138 День назад
You are very confused to think that!
@teddy.nkosi3
@teddy.nkosi3 11 часов назад
Sizwe is obsessed about the peaceful people of Orania , instead of being worried about influx of ex military personnel pretending to be refugees in our country
@p.srussell3899
@p.srussell3899 2 дня назад
Every day is a school day…
@YourAlignmentCapital-vm1jq
@YourAlignmentCapital-vm1jq 6 часов назад
Brave topic. Love the fair & hard commentary 🎉. Honestly open discussions are necessary
@nothingness02
@nothingness02 2 дня назад
Do you kinda get a feeling Israel and Palestine forming?
@gorereel.r2780
@gorereel.r2780 День назад
Bro. I'm scared. These people will pull an is ra hell on us and the Americans will back them
@VictorShongwe-eh3sc
@VictorShongwe-eh3sc День назад
Anc doesn't care about future generations of SA
@brettlinn3063
@brettlinn3063 2 дня назад
Sizwe as a white english person who cannot live in orania, as im not afrikaans, I respect each person black or white to have the right to protect / preserve their culture, language and traditions. The constitution protects self determination. I cannot see your problem with Orania. They are a very successful self sufficent community with no crime, wanting to determine their own way of living. They own a incredibly small piece of land where their town is situated , accounting for less than 0.05% of South Africa. I dont see a problem with a very small separate independent state for white afrikaners who want to live amongst their own people. Please dont confuse self determination with racism.
@judmap5618
@judmap5618 2 дня назад
Nonsense
@brettlinn3063
@brettlinn3063 2 дня назад
@@judmap5618 read the constitution
@brianr4960
@brianr4960 2 дня назад
They are the ancestors of the people who left the Cape of Good Hope because they couldn't live under the WHITE English government. Let them go!
@vicmabiya5884
@vicmabiya5884 2 дня назад
Do you understand that the land is preserving apartheid legacy, the biggest crime against humanity?
@greatartthoumaluleka6740
@greatartthoumaluleka6740 2 дня назад
@brettlin thank you for admitting that you have a right to determine your own way of life whilst Worldwide Africans we subjugated to your Roman dutch laws and western way of life thats the difference your meglomainic thought of us is that we are nothing worthy of determining our own destiny you constantly manipulate, interfere and even kill to protect your European Cuacasian dominance and thats the truth!
@Scruffpuppie-j7y
@Scruffpuppie-j7y День назад
How can a town with a population of 3000 upset your feelings so much ? They do absolutely nothing to you. JEALOUSY. If they weren’t weren’t thriving you wouldn’t care !
@Kush-Kemet
@Kush-Kemet День назад
Dutch/European Invanders, you can separate in Europe
@Scruffpuppie-j7y
@Scruffpuppie-j7y День назад
@@Kush-Kemet whats your culture ? Your people most likely also “invaded” south africa. MOVE ON and grow instead of complaining every single day
@Kush-Kemet
@Kush-Kemet День назад
@@Scruffpuppie-j7yTriggered...Truth Hurts..Seek Therapy... I'm a proud indigenous AFRIKAN, so you should also be proud of your Dutch/European Invanders ancestry because that's what you will always be in AFRIKA....Facts over your feelings...
@taunyanedicksonramajoe5467
@taunyanedicksonramajoe5467 2 дня назад
Beautiful research and very informative episode Dr Siz. I love that the delivery is nothing but factual!❤🎉
@hantieprins3891
@hantieprins3891 2 дня назад
The only thing informative about it , is who and what the podcast producer represent.
@Foxez13
@Foxez13 2 дня назад
@@hantieprins3891why do you not produce your own with your own facts?
@tiMos-w1n
@tiMos-w1n 2 дня назад
​@@hantieprins3891They represent black South Africa not u
@hantieprins3891
@hantieprins3891 2 дня назад
@@Foxez13 Why blow your whistle against the prevailing winds... the ANC has failed and it did not take long for their failures to be blamed on the apartheid era.. why bother..
@Foxez13
@Foxez13 День назад
@@hantieprins3891 yet here you are bothered.
@MalibongweNombande
@MalibongweNombande 21 час назад
Amazing work Hlubi. The details on this educational piece of content are both embarrassing and bone chilling. Thank you for always going all out when packaging these lectures for our people.
@_SMWX
@_SMWX 20 часов назад
Thanks for watching!
@junegilbert-ri9gg
@junegilbert-ri9gg 2 дня назад
Siswe don't talk Rubish Orania was a desert where you come from to say there were people evicted..
@tiMos-w1n
@tiMos-w1n 2 дня назад
African land taken by Europeans
@MentalFacility-u7o
@MentalFacility-u7o День назад
Now that is a rubbish. That place was no desert, hundreds of black and coloured folks had been living there under the town name 'grootgewaagd'. The 'founding' of Orania resulted in one of the biggest forced removal by the regime. It's pretty convenient for people who supposedly care so much about history and heritage, to omit such simple truths about their formation. It's okay. Own it!!!
@MsKRAZOR
@MsKRAZOR 9 часов назад
😂😂😂 You are just like those Zionists who say the land they invaded was a desert and no one was there! Hayi you people are delusional fr
@mightyginza3182
@mightyginza3182 День назад
The Orania racist case must be given to the two retired judges...in the name of former Justice Dikgang Moseneke and the recently retired Chief Justice Raymond Zondo. ...Sizwe, can you please invite Advocate Thembeka NgcukaithobI, to come and share his views and advise South Africa on what to do in this racist history of Orania.
@mossfairy3060
@mossfairy3060 2 дня назад
I'm white, but i can't live there, so it's not only for whites. It's for Afrikaance speaking culture people.. I don't see why it's a problem.. let them live there , they not harming anyone. Swaziland was given over to the King and he called it Eswantini ( my spelling is probably wrong, forgive me) so why only pick on the Afrikaance Would a white person be allowed to live or buy land within the land the king owns in kzn
@KillmongerWasRight45
@KillmongerWasRight45 2 дня назад
Hulaank voor hai mense n weermag het en militere wapens ...Hu lank..dan wil bleddie eise maak vani staat want hulle het meer vuurkrag
@BahDuest
@BahDuest 2 дня назад
So, in your view, a king is on the level of a common person. Then we should build only spaces in Europe and other kingdoms in there backyard. This is wrong if you're going to have a city built purposely for separation is a slap in the face of the African! If that's the case go back to the Netherlands an build in your Ancestors land and continue your separation from the people you don't want around.
@sahiphopNETWORK
@sahiphopNETWORK 2 дня назад
you obviously bias eSwatini you can go live there you don't have to be Swati to do that, Lesotho same thing Botswana same thing Kwa Zulu natal same thing, even ngwenyama trust same thing, there no place on the african continent even the world were you have to be of a certain culture to live there you just have to respect it its only orania but we don't expect racists to understand...but lets not act like orania is not a cult town that built its self around apartheid colonialism shrines as to preserve what they call their culture which is apartheid white supremacy which they chose to build in honor of that legacy
@tiMos-w1n
@tiMos-w1n 2 дня назад
U JUST WROTE A WHOLE BUNCH OF NONSENSE. Who gave the Swatis Eswatini? GOD.
@berniediedricks5681
@berniediedricks5681 2 дня назад
Believe it's whites only
@enigma5703
@enigma5703 День назад
Are we triggered that this is a white-only community or are we triggered that this white community is doing well and self-sustained? Like the gated "white" complexes we "middle-class blacks" move to the minute we start making a little money, instead of investing back and helping build the communities we come from. And I say this with 3 fingers pointing back at me. If my colleague goes to our boss and asks for a raise and gets it and i don't do the the same. Do i have the right to be angry at my colleague for getting more where i didn’t even attempt the same. These people took their shot and got what they wanted.
@RSAGH4Sure
@RSAGH4Sure 2 дня назад
Your video speaks more truth to Oriana than most SA Podcasters and RU-vidrs that put up their propaganda video for Oriana
@avengemybreath3084
@avengemybreath3084 2 дня назад
It’s great to see that current day South Africa is so moral and bright.
@KwasiWalks
@KwasiWalks 2 дня назад
This is the best video ever made, speaking the truth about orania
@chosasangos3462
@chosasangos3462 День назад
Africans shouldnt worry about Orania, our God will take care of it. Some battles are spiritual and cant be fought in the physical.
@thriftedfinds
@thriftedfinds День назад
This is a serious topic. Thank you for the thorough reporting. But, Mandela got me at “cooked sisters” 😂😂 😂 22:02
@jontheb123
@jontheb123 День назад
You do know that you're crying over a piece of land that is less than one tenth the size of Soweto, which is essentially a black only town in SA. It isn't bisected by the Orange River - the river forms its northern border. It sits on the border of the Northern Cape and Free State, where nobody really wants to live. Black people can enter and have done so. They pay tax but don't receive any services from the South African state. Just leave them be. The only reason it supposedly looks bad is because it is far more successful than the rest of South Africa.
@Kush-Kemet
@Kush-Kemet День назад
You're a Dutch/European Invander, go and separate in Europe Not in AFRIKA
@Kush-Kemet
@Kush-Kemet День назад
Dutch/European settler that's what you're let that sink in...
@jontheb123
@jontheb123 День назад
@@Kush-Kemet & you're a black, supremacist racist...let that sink in.
@Sentinal6405
@Sentinal6405 День назад
What the Anti Oranians are saying is why can't they live like us in this filthy failed SA
@sharonadams9721
@sharonadams9721 2 дня назад
It sounds as if Oranje is ultimately pushing towards secession.
@Kush-Kemet
@Kush-Kemet День назад
Dutch/European Invanders getting triggered and catching stray on the comments 😂😂😂
@thangodlamini8944
@thangodlamini8944 2 дня назад
We gonna have an Israel situation in the future
@cozaneo3153
@cozaneo3153 2 дня назад
Most definitely, it’s already in the air
@veronicakarstel9126
@veronicakarstel9126 2 дня назад
Orania is in the middle of nowhere 8 hours from CT
@veronicakarstel9126
@veronicakarstel9126 2 дня назад
Now Orania do all their own work, labourers are white.
@chronosmagasaurus2813
@chronosmagasaurus2813 2 дня назад
@@cozaneo3153 your nose must be too close to your behind because you breathing in stale air
@PhetogoNoore
@PhetogoNoore 2 дня назад
That’s what I was thinking
@MrDayna39
@MrDayna39 2 дня назад
Mandela really was a forgiving person, after being punished and spending 27 years in jail for being right and humanistic. However, endorsing the existence of Orania is a contradiction of what he fought for and went to jail for. If the people of Orania want a separate land for themselves. they could leave the continent, no Black group of people could go to Europe and demand a separate piece of land for themselves.
@davidscrooby2461
@davidscrooby2461 2 дня назад
There is a place called Kleinfontein near Pretoria which is referred to as another Oranje!
@veronicakarstel9126
@veronicakarstel9126 2 дня назад
Black people had the most fertile soil in the southern hemisphere namely Transkei, and what was cultivated, nothing. Across the road from Transkei are successful sugar cane plantations where Indians worked as slaves.
@traumaqueeen
@traumaqueeen 2 дня назад
so because we didn't want to cultivate we must get our land stolen 😂😂😂
@traumaqueeen
@traumaqueeen 2 дня назад
what exactly is the point you are trying to make? We didn't want to farm the land, so we must lose it?
@jacquesdewet2661
@jacquesdewet2661 2 дня назад
@@traumaqueeen - You're more of a dramaqueen... No.. the point is this countries' success is because of foreigners who brought skills you never had.
@rice4550
@rice4550 2 дня назад
⁠@@jacquesdewet2661oh yes foreigners brought slaves and took all the mineral wealth what would Africans do without that
@Lucienne-b3v
@Lucienne-b3v 2 дня назад
@@jacquesdewet2661 no foreigners did not bring in skills, the skills people had were Indigenous, it was due to colonialism, and apartheid (latter) that the beneficiaries of this day are still benefitting from it. Come on man, did you think Rhodes whom the Anglo-Saxons came from (De Beers Consolidated, Oppenheimer Family ties and dealings), etc families still benefitted. Yet, you want to label people as being dramatic. Did any of the so-called "settlers" learn any indigenous skills? Did they? please enlighten me with your knowledge. It is that very ignorant response that individuals like yourself push because you do not want to be unsettled or engaged. Perhaps you are a real drama queen in essence. Going forward you will not call my sister a drama queen, it takes one to know one.
@papamofokeng7050
@papamofokeng7050 День назад
i did not see this one comming, Big up brother👏
@sizla8837
@sizla8837 2 дня назад
Why are people "scared" to confront this issue!?!
@Ritesh-yy1zr
@Ritesh-yy1zr 2 дня назад
Good question? They weak I guess. Waiting on government to save them
@traumaqueeen
@traumaqueeen 2 дня назад
Because they are racist and they want to gaslight us about our history. Very sinister
@sizla8837
@sizla8837 2 дня назад
@@Ritesh-yy1zr What I hate is fine the ANC has been seriously complicit on this issue and eventually it will get to the stage of civil war and only then they will panic and grandstand, also this whole Cape Independence is brewing and will become problematic!!!
@Ritesh-yy1zr
@Ritesh-yy1zr 2 дня назад
@@sizla8837 ANC are useless from '94. But yeah something has to give in soon. And it doesn't look good
@zazzleq6139
@zazzleq6139 День назад
The govt army protects them I think
@sammakwela
@sammakwela 2 дня назад
It's always interesting to me that: Some people are referred to as White, as opposed to European. Some people are referred to as Black, as opposed to African. Yes, some are referred to as Indian or Chinese, as opposed to by colour. There's something there 🤔
@tiMos-w1n
@tiMos-w1n 2 дня назад
They are Europeans😂😂😂
@twiggy-x5v
@twiggy-x5v 2 дня назад
Because we have black people all over the world, not just in Africa, just like we have white people in other countries except Europe.
@T1Xerxes
@T1Xerxes День назад
@@twiggy-x5v You are not a color dumb dumb. You come from somewhere.
@aarongunnz9513
@aarongunnz9513 2 дня назад
Orania residents are hard working people. They worked hard for that town. there's no crime no drugs. So leave them alone
@glenfordclinton5935
@glenfordclinton5935 День назад
Still they beat black people for that land
@twiggy-x5v
@twiggy-x5v День назад
@@glenfordclinton5935 Zulus used to beat us too, we cant be bitter about it forever 😭
@zazzleq6139
@zazzleq6139 День назад
@@twiggy-x5vthat’s white history trying gaslighting.
@sonjaswart9866
@sonjaswart9866 День назад
@@gorereel.r2780 What is the threat? They don't want anything from you. They have their own and they are successful. I think you are a threat to them, other way round. Capiche?
@siyatise5165
@siyatise5165 День назад
​@@glenfordclinton5935 udom shame
@oulangkous718
@oulangkous718 День назад
segregation based on something as arbitrary as skin colour is wrong but segregation based on values has legitimacy e.g. if dog owners decided they want their own town with laws that are centred around dogs, i say let them have it. It might actually be better for the larger society outside who dislike dogs, because they could enjoy walks outside without being accosted by a dog who's owners don't keep them on leash. jokes aside, leave the racists in orania, the rest of SA are better off not having to deal with them.
@kgoaomametja117
@kgoaomametja117 2 дня назад
This is a video I needed. Thanks for the history lesson as it did make me think a bit differently on this issue.
@berniediedricks5681
@berniediedricks5681 2 дня назад
The Doctor presents politics with do much knowledge and flair, it's more addictive than the longest running soap opera🤫
@thebehlahatsi8362
@thebehlahatsi8362 День назад
"a failing South African state woul most possibly not be in a position to do us much harm" 🤣🤣
@ssher
@ssher День назад
Bloody hell, Sizwe, you're a gem! Thank you for keeping us informed and doing the homework for us.
@Cper2000
@Cper2000 10 часов назад
Sizwe is out of touch with reality, he lives behind burglar bars and security fences, yet criticises the safety, order and success of a place like Orania. He literally cowers in the safety of his studio, knowing the dangers outside when he needs to walk to his car. Yet spews garbage about a working, safe town. Insanity I tell you!
@daCuddz
@daCuddz 2 дня назад
They have a different currency IN South Africa…and people are asking what the problem is??!😂
@ja5239ghhhjj
@ja5239ghhhjj 2 дня назад
it’s less a currency more a token system based of the rand
@sizwedubeelimthende
@sizwedubeelimthende 2 дня назад
Technically it’s a coupon system where the real currency is still the Rand because they not wholly self sufficient.
@biko8229
@biko8229 2 дня назад
Its madness. This is why Winnie Mandela always said the negotiators compromised too much at CODESA.
@Mzansi-Times
@Mzansi-Times 2 дня назад
😂😂 that's crazy, we dont learn. We suffer from white supremacy mental illness
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub 2 дня назад
It's like going to a casino and changing your cash for tokens.
@janchristiaanpeens4470
@janchristiaanpeens4470 День назад
They took some barren land and made it work.The ANC had the wealthiest land in the world and destroyed it.Learn what work ethic means from these people.
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