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Organization 13 vs The Akatsuki 

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It is the time! A battle of two mighty groups of warriors that threaten their respective creations! Both desire a power beyond their own understanding, for reasons neither understand! Let's talk about who would win, Organization XIII from Kingdom Hearts and Naruto's Akatsuki!
Correction : Organization 13 Has Souls, My Bad, thank you to Jeff L.

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@jl53588
@jl53588 3 года назад
I agree that Organization 13 would win this but you saying "Nobodies have no souls" is incorrect. It is stated in the Ansem reports that Nobodies are made purely of body and soul The body giving them form and the soul giving them life
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
That is correct! My bad.
@anthonyleacock7996
@anthonyleacock7996 3 года назад
This guy smh 🤦🏾‍♂️
@TheLegendaryMickey
@TheLegendaryMickey 2 года назад
irrelevant to the argument though their soul's don't exist in the realm of light.
@aceofalltrades1
@aceofalltrades1 Год назад
@@thatguywithapencil I know I'm late to this but I have 2 things in the akatsukis favor and 1 in the organizations favor. First higher tier nobodies can be hit and hurt but normal things, it's just not common and usually when they can its certian members either using specific abilities or something setup that let's them. Second magic can be used to bypass alot of their defenses, jutsu is ninja magic to a degree. It comes from a God after all. And a big one for the organization is that genjutsu doesn't work regardless of if they are nobodies or not because they don't have Chakra, genjutsu effects the opponents Chakra to cause illusions and hallucinations, which is why it can be dispelled with Chakra control or physical pain.
@KhunShawn
@KhunShawn 3 года назад
As soon as the video started it basically became a video called “ Why organization 13 is stronger than you think “
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
You know, looking back on this video, yeah.
@mariatukoroma3900
@mariatukoroma3900 Год назад
I love this its so well done,could we get more of this on the channel?
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil Год назад
They’ll be back soon!
@riamu94
@riamu94 Год назад
If the original Organization can defeat the Akatsuki then imagine what the REAL Organization from KH3 would do to Akatsuki 💀💀
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil Год назад
We can't talk about that. It'd be too horrid.
@hellogoodbyeandallinbetween
I searched up this question and I'm so glad someone actually thought about it
@justusphillipsthecartoonki5621
@justusphillipsthecartoonki5621 3 года назад
Pencil I Love This Vs Battle Awesome Job Man People Underestimate The Organization 13 Please I Don't See The Akatsuki Ever Winner At All Because The Organization 13 Just Busted As Hell Seeing This Versus Battle Yep The Akatsuki Just Get Slap Hard.
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
The organization is a bit crazy.
@dopelope8112
@dopelope8112 3 года назад
I understand the claim on how the Akatsuki cant hit them for they are "Nobodies" but ive seen plenty of Disney Characters destroy Nobodies so wouldnt the same concept apply to them?
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
Donald and Goofy showed they could do it. How? No idea, but they did it. So, I don't think the same idea applies. Once you do it, you can in my mind. Naruto characters haven't done it yet. Give Boruto some time though, I bet it will happen.
@czms922
@czms922 2 года назад
@@thatguywithapencil it’s because they have Magic. Every Disney character was shown they gave access to magic
@JoseRosa0805
@JoseRosa0805 Год назад
Where in the game lore, scenes journals, etc does it specifically say that Nobodies cannot be hit? Don't remember that. Also, if they are somewhat vulnerable to magic, i am pretty sure that chakra natures are kinda like magic. I still believe that Org XIII would win, but closing the debate by saying they cannot be hit seems a bit strict/excesive.
@yunariumlovania4470
@yunariumlovania4470 Год назад
Because some Disney characters got that toon force logic destroying bs lol FUN FACT!!! did you know Sora has beaten a toon force user in kh2 Pete’s boss fight in the steam boat Willy world proved this by him manipulating the battlefield to he’s advantage in a funny and cartoonish way. And yet still gets blitzed by Sora. But I guess it’s like the space jam movies where the only way to fight toon force with toon characters is to be in a very toonish world? Idk but just tought I bring that up!
@hrudaypatil564
@hrudaypatil564 3 года назад
good as ever
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
Thanks! I always appreciate the support!
@nickdevlin3072
@nickdevlin3072 2 года назад
Do Master Xehanort vs Madara cause technically thats their respective groups at their peak, great video tho
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 2 года назад
I can definitely do that, and thank you!
@nickdevlin3072
@nickdevlin3072 2 года назад
@@thatguywithapencil No thank you lol! 👍
@user-cw3ct9cb3t
@user-cw3ct9cb3t 3 года назад
Good video
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
Your support is always appreciated, thank you!
@epiccraftmine4976
@epiccraftmine4976 3 года назад
Idea you can use. Dharkon and Galeem (Smash bros Ultimate) vs Organization XIII (original Organization XIII from Kingdom hearts 2)
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
That sounds like fun, sure!
@epiccraftmine4976
@epiccraftmine4976 3 года назад
@@thatguywithapencil agreed 👍😎👍
@epiccraftmine4976
@epiccraftmine4976 2 года назад
@@thatguywithapencil Or another idea: Kara Organization (Boruto) vs Organization 13 (Kingdom Hearts 2) Although the Organization 13 would still stomp.
@dementia2133
@dementia2133 3 года назад
Good vid
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
Thank you very much! I appreciate the compliment!
@DefinitelyNotYourDad
@DefinitelyNotYourDad Год назад
Where is the Espada video???
@adame7843
@adame7843 3 года назад
Organization 13 vs espada? Including aizen and master xehanort
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
When I finally read and scale Bleach, sure!
@ancientthundercast
@ancientthundercast 2 года назад
given the pairings you paired with makes a good point to Xemnas vs Pain Xigbar vs Obito/Tobi Xaldin vs Konan Vexen vs Hidan Lexaeus vs Deidara Zexion vs Itachi Saix vs Kakuzu Demyx vs Kisame Axel vs Orochimaru Luxord vs Sasori Marluxia vs Zetsu Roxas Xion and Larxene those three need their own to face against although maybe Sasuke’s four man group who joined could be Karin Sasuke and Jugo since they joined the Akatsuki at first then left the group although given some of the Organization members elements if they were in the Naruto world given their elements they could live in the villages of their respective element like wind earth and so on like say Xaldin in the sand village to Axel and Marluxia being in the leaf and Larxene in the hidden cloud village and so on
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 2 года назад
Honestly, I could see the Organization and a lot of KH character falling in the Naruto world.
@ancientthundercast
@ancientthundercast 2 года назад
@@thatguywithapencil yeah I can see them being in the respective villages based on their element in a village a couple of them paired and on their own like Marluxia & Grass Village Demyx in the Mist Village or Rain Larxene in Cloud Village Lexaeus in Stone Village or Sand Zexion in Sound Village Saix in Moon Village Vexen in Frost Village Axel In Leaf Village Xaldin in Sand Village both Roxas and Xion in the small country of dream village near the land of fire then that leaves only Xigbar and Xemnas to find homes for
@zachariaravenheart
@zachariaravenheart 3 года назад
I honestly always wondered about this topic until I learned more about KH power-scaling. It’s really weird, but I honestly agree with your outcome of this fight. It’s quite a wash, but still kinda fun. Though, I think the nobodies are supposed to exist. I think I remember. Sora, or Roxas talking about that. Wasn’t their hole thing them trying to exist, but then they find they do exist in their own way? Kingdom Hearts is weird. I’m going to go have a staring contest with Cthulhu to give me a break.
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
I do think its fun! If the Organization holds back, it would be an especially fun chaotic battle to watch! You're right, Nobodies desire existences and hearts, but they don't have it. Every Nobody, Yen Sid, and pretty much all sources relating to them imply or directly state that they do not exist though. That's why Roxas couldn't even hit them without the Keyblade when he first encountered just a Dusk.
@ukyoize
@ukyoize 2 года назад
Yeah, they were basically gaslit
@fuckingking6796
@fuckingking6796 2 года назад
People who can destroy universes vs People who can't handle à goddamn town burster or even city burster I wonder who will win?
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 2 года назад
I wonder
@giornogiovannatheultimateb8553
Akasutki are beyond city level tho
@princeofthelake
@princeofthelake 3 года назад
👍
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
Thank you! Greatly appreciate it!
@hasturlegeekenjaune4522
@hasturlegeekenjaune4522 Год назад
Clood and Tifa can destroy heartless and nobodys with rather normal weapons (and even with bare hands), it may not be a permanent destruction but it is still a possible defeat
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil Год назад
That just shows they have that ability to interact with those types of creatures. Doesn’t prove anyone can.
@mariatukoroma3900
@mariatukoroma3900 Год назад
During some organization 13 boss battles they go intangible for there desperation move,several low level nobodies can go intangible as well.
@momotheone9700
@momotheone9700 3 года назад
They are literally slaughtering thr akatisuki i sont see the reason for this
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
Not everyone knows that. A lot of people think the opposite.
@thelonecyborg3555
@thelonecyborg3555 3 года назад
Why do you hate the akatsuki 😭
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
I don’t hate the Akatsuki! I really like the Akatsuki. I just don’t like the Akatsuki being overhyped.
@hrudaypatil564
@hrudaypatil564 3 года назад
bruh the akatsuki are strong but its just that their opponents are on whole different league so put in simple words, they get stomped
@lewisnealy2411
@lewisnealy2411 Год назад
@@thatguywithapencil they are not overhyped they are just a badass villain group.
@rezarezaa6497
@rezarezaa6497 2 года назад
sora pretty much defeated ff7 and ff8 protagonists and also sephiroth...and all of Organization 13 at least are same level of these guys(if not stronger like roxas that is stronger than sora or xion that is possibly same level as sora since she copied most of sora's power and other member's powers too)...so Akatsuki is so much doomed beyond imagine
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 2 года назад
EXACTLY!
@TheLegendaryMickey
@TheLegendaryMickey Год назад
the organization shit's on all of naruto.
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil Год назад
Yeah, kinda.
@DarkTheLibrarian
@DarkTheLibrarian Год назад
This is a no concept of diff fight, even if they could hit the nobody's and hurt them they far outhax them, 1 organization member even with equalized stats could wipe them all due to hax and summoning.
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil Год назад
The sheer biological different alone is crazy.
@DarkTheLibrarian
@DarkTheLibrarian Год назад
@@thatguywithapencil Yeah, pretty sure the only Akatsuki member that could hurt any of them is pain with his Human path, but even then that's only a maybe and it wouldn't do much as nobodies have MASSIVE soul manipulation resistance
@rang4889
@rang4889 2 года назад
Just thought of this fight while replaying kingdom hearts. I feel like it's rare to find a person who has both played through the entire kingdom hearts series and has watched all of naruto. Since doing both takes a long time. I feel like a lot of people who say akatsuki win are just naruto fan boys who have no idea what the organization can do. To be fair I think both sides would have losses if in fact the akatsuki can damage nobodies Nobodies can die. They basically just return to the people they once were. That's why when axel faded he became lea again and therefore became a mortal human again. The problem is that you cant hit a nobody unless you have a keyblade or Disney powers (donald/goofy) roxas tried to hit one with a bat and it just didnt work. This means theres a good chance that no physical attack will hurt them making weapons like hidans sheath worthless (also I dont think nobodies bleed so yeah...that ability dont work). Taking away from this let's say ninjutsu/genjutsu do work on them. Meaning they can take damage from elemental attacks like firestyle, water style, earth style etc. And can be trapped in genjutsu like izanami. Having this gives them a lot better chance and could actually get them some kills. If they can trap organization 13 in izanami or some other weird genjutsu then they basically become defenseless letting akatsuki get free hits. So itachi and obito and gonna be your bread winners. Although nobodies dont feel pain they can be damaged. When you talk about overall speed. I dont think they are that much faster considering a 10 year old boy who just got the keyblade legit like 5 months ago could keep up with them in rechain. Xemnas would be like the fastest overall. There real danger point is that they can teleport anywhere through the dark portals making abilities like kamui useless (except to catch projectiles). Speed wise the organization is a tad faster with added teleport effect. When you go to power scaling although I would like to use the "10 year old kid beat them" as an arguement, but in kingdom hearts destiny plays a big role in how things turn out. I mean the main villain has to time travel to make sure things go his way and even that didnt work in the end. It was Soras/Rikus DESTINY to win and balance both light and darkness. That said. I believe that the organization is a bit stronger especially characters like lexaeus/xemnas and definitely more durable considering the stuff they tank. The akatsuki have only one thing going for them and that's experience/planning. Akatsuki have fought battles way longer than nobodies and would probably be able to make a tactical strike to put certain members in better match ups. Oh axel likes to use fire? Make him fight kisame. This fight is not just something to graze over. You legit have to consider all abilities and resources that makes each members worth on both sides to see who would win. Genjutsu also takes a big part. Well I'm all done ranting. I think that it would be very close if the akatsuki could actually damage them and there would be heavy losses on both sides. In the end I think the organization would win by like 1 member. Legit everyone else would be dead. One more thing your arguement about strength is kinda far fetched considering 1 that it takes a ton of heartless to destroy the planet like tons. And one organization member does not have that power. 2 your saying that because sora beat elemental monsters and that the organization fought sora then they are stronger than Zeus? What are you even talking about. No organization member has beaten sora, and on top of that you cant use that type of power scaling by saying since one character beat this insanely powerful character then these other guys who rival sora in strength can beat said powerful character. Just because sora won against a titan does not mean that the organization will. Also Disney is not really a good place to pull canonical strength from since kingdom hearts versions of movie characters are not the same as the actual movie characters. More of a separate universe type thing or what if scenario. Overall good video, I enjoyed it.
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 2 года назад
Thank you for your viewership, compliments, and critiques!
@rang4889
@rang4889 2 года назад
@@thatguywithapencil do you think organization can be effected by genjutsu?
@jotaroisbestboy7593
@jotaroisbestboy7593 2 года назад
@@rang4889 no
@burritowyrm6530
@burritowyrm6530 3 года назад
yoo vexen can make puppets sasori IS a puppet
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
I feel like Vexen and Sasori would get along if they weren't trying to destroy each other.
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 3 года назад
Making a lot of assumptions here.
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
That is true. I'm assuming a lot of the matchups, and their outcomes based off their likelihood. My bad.
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 3 года назад
@@thatguywithapencil wasn't trying to be a smartass or just state the obvious. Just poiting out how some of your points seem a bit too theoretical.
@Masterchief3590
@Masterchief3590 3 года назад
You're very biased my friend. I love Kingdom Hearts and Org 13 is one of my absolute favorite villain groups, but I think the one thing that sets the Akatsuki apart from org 13, is that they have a lot more determination and willpower. Xemnas, the leader of org 13 is trying to take over Kingdom Hearts because he wants more power, whereas the leader of the Akatsuki, Pain, wants to capture all tailed beasts not because he wants power, but because he wants what he believes to be peace in the ninja world. I think that is a stronger determining factor for why the Akatsuki would win. They actually believe what they are doing is right, whereas org 13 is doing it because they wanna be powerful. On another note, you're telling me that The six paths of pain are inferior to org 13? Not to mention Itachi and Diedara? I think you're extremely biased, considering the power-scaoing for the Akatsuki is rather high as opposed to the organization. And there's reason(s) for that: in Naruto, we see how, why, and when most, if not all, members of the Akatsuki become members. We see their backstories and why they gained so much hate for the ninja world. For the organization, we might see some backstory here and there, but there is no hate. They don't hate anyone, they're just kinda there. I dunno. This is my opinion and wanted to share my thoughts.
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 3 года назад
See, if I were discussing both groups as characters, I'd agree with you. In terms of willpower, determination, drive, the Akatsuki despite being a unique group of characters with one goal they all have their own intricate pasts and backstories that work to make them all interesting characters with their own serious goals. All the Organization have the same goal really, with some divergences for other characters based on their backgrounds. If we're going character vs character, then I could give the Akatsuki the win. While the Organization has a few standout characters, the Akatsuki combined and individually is a standout character. However, we are talking about an actual battle. If we are looking at the power here, the story changes. And yes, I am saying the Organization scales much better than the Akatsuki. The Organization at a low ball are star level in terms of power, and the best arguments I have heard for the Akatsuki is multi-continental at their peak, through war arc scaling and Itachi. For speed, while the Akatsuki are faster than light by a decent margin, the Organization are an entire speed tier above that, in inaccessible. Or just massively faster than light at a lowball. You claim the Akatsuki scales much better, but how? Where is the evidence? I respect their characters and their backstories, but no matter how much willpower and determination they have, that does not overcome the insane gap in raw power. Someone like Kid Sasuke had extreme motivation, unreal amounts and a deeper backstory of suffering and hatred than most of the Akatsuki, but that meant nothing in the face of Itachi's raw power. And you're fine, I'm glad to hear your thoughts.
@thegamewin100
@thegamewin100 6 месяцев назад
This is power based not character based most of the akatsuki was boring anyways expect itachi deidara and a few others
@xxProjectJxx
@xxProjectJxx 2 года назад
This is edgy weeb Facebook from 2008 in a nutshell lol
@thatguywithapencil
@thatguywithapencil 2 года назад
That is the most accurate description of my channel that I've ever seen! Nice work!
@Noheart-13x
@Noheart-13x 6 дней назад
Nah I'd win
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