ORICO Thunderbolt 3 M.2 Dual-bay Docking Station - A unique approach to TB3 Dock

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ORICO Thunderbolt 3 M.2 Dual-bay Docking Station - A unique approach to TB3 Dock. This dock has not just 1 but 2 M.2 Slots for SSDs which is unique and promising but it is not entirely what you think and this review will cover this specific feature along with many of the dock features as well. Overall this is a great dock that is powered - meaning it has it own power supply and does not take power away from the computer. It can also supply power to the laptop as well thought limitedly compared to the OEM power adapters especially if you have a larger laptop. And this has some advantages compared to passive docks. The dock itself does not get that hot all if you don't use and NVMe, but if if you do there's a fan inside to dissipate heat. And 2 more things, 1st one might think that now a day there's TB4, how come this is still TB3, if you look at the bandwidths specs between TB3 and 4 it is the same, just stricter standard on the TB4. 2nd I am using Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe in this test, which I am aware is not the fasters NVMe for there use but none the less these are exhausting parts that I have in the studio, so this is what I used to test. Find out more about this dock in the video!
For those considering this dock there's a $30 off coupon on Amazon until June 30th.
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@angelopetrelli1083 2 года назад

Thank you very much-again, for an other great & helpful video. 👍

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@anothergan 2 года назад

I’ve used this way to upgrade my M1 MacBook Pro for almost a year with my 2 TB WD SN750 SSD. It’s a lot cheaper than upgrading SSD on Apple site, and there’s no performance difference between this one and internal SSD. Much love from Thailand krub P’Art!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Awesome, So there are some read and write speed differences but you are right that in daily use i.e. real life there's none :)

@noahgoldowitz 2 года назад

Another great video thanks

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You bet

@retomusterle2419 2 года назад

Nice device, hopefully fan will be temperature controlled in future. Valuable extension would be having a 10GBIT-Ethernet instead of 1GBIT.

@noahgoldowitz 2 года назад

Facts

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

That would be great but competing bandwidth would be a real issue to consider as well, if everything is used at the same time. To which there would be less ports on the dock. but hey I am in for 10 Gbe.

@sergiogalarza6346 2 года назад

Great review as always. I think i'll also wait for the nvme version with thunderbolt 4.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

👍🏼

@derekrowanphotograpics 2 года назад

Nice review. finding pros & cons of different products is good, makes people aware of great & poor products. I’ll stick to the Sabrent DS-SKRT-D4TB for my OS & Cache library for now. Not as good as OWC Thunder blade however it’s still 100% Better 👍

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

👍🏼

@macdee1337 2 года назад

Thanks for mentioning the NGFF issue. I was searching for confirmation about this specifically, so your video timing is perfect! That's an extremely weird decision on their side, and otherwise it would've been an instant buy for me. I wonder what other dual NVMe hubs/enclosures are there, beside Treeblet's one, and with M1 Macs support? Any guides?…

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

No much, search didn't show much results and the read and write speed would get capped at TB3/4 speed with over head.

@ZachMeissner 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for doing this video! Great job! Do you know what Thunderbolt chipset this is using?

@ArtIsRight 10 месяцев назад

You're Welcome! and I would reach out to Orico for answer.

@JAKOB1977 Год назад

I did not know that USB-A had support for 10Gbps.. thougt that standard peaked at 5Gbps, but it does support 10Gbps. as its limit does not make much sense to put a dedicated NGFF (Sata) socket in a TB3 dock. most M.2 interfaces nowadays atleast for 10Gbps (not 40Gbps drive interface) are dual M.2 compatible, so both NGFF and NVMe. Though I dont have any 40Gbps M.2 docks, only 20Gbps..Blueendless M6N.. the price for 40Gbps were simply to big a jump pricewise vs 20Gbps and the speed doesnt change a lot in M.2 drivepractise. Is it me that missed this, or did you not even state the price..?

@ArtIsRight Год назад

It depends, we have come a long way with too many confusing standard. It can go up to 20 Gb/s now on some new standard. USS Kobayashi Maru, there are no win all scenario, choose what is going to work for what you need, don't worry about the speed. there are ways to get more, but it does not necessary means that you or the app will utilized it!

@bitcrafter 2 года назад

The NVME is nice, I do tend to like and trust the OWC product line of TB3 and TB4 devices. Still having issues with the X-Rite, spent five hours working with BenQ via chat, still no resolution. Excruciatingly painful. lol. Thanks Art!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

What is the issue with X-Rite and BenQ? Dm me

@bitcrafter 2 года назад

@@ArtIsRight We've already been chatting about it on IG. Downgrading to .15 and many other things haven't worked in getting PME to recognize the i1Disply Pro. The computer see's it, the displays won't. ;-)

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Got cha.

@dracwula 2 года назад

i have YottaMaster brand version of this identical TB3 box. it is awesome and reliable and also its intel TB chipset controller ( for me intel chipset controller is extremely important). i only have one complain about this almost perfect product is not the fan noise but how much dust it can suck in through all the port openings (in 6month time leaving it on 24/7) and causes TB port to eventually glitch simply by touching the TB connector or moving the box a tiny bit. also lacks SPDIF and 2.5gb ethernet (not a show stopper).

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

👍🏼

@nicolofragile9241 Год назад

Hello, I purchased the Orico TB3-S2 from Amazon Italy. In your video, it shows that it can accommodate two M.2 NVMe 2280 SSDs. However, I discovered that this model supports one M.2 2280 SSD and one M.2 2242 SSD. I bought it thinking I could insert two identical M.2 SSDs. Your specifications indicate that it supports up to 8TB of storage, but 2242 SSDs have a maximum capacity of 2TB, so it is not possible to reach 8TB. Is there a model available that allows for two NVMe M.2 2280 SSDs, just like in your video? I have searched for it but couldn't find it. Thank you, Nicolo' from

@ArtIsRight Год назад

I know this model is getting older now, not sure what the current one is. I would do an amazon search for other brands. Or if you like to use Orico I would contact them directly and see what products they have that fits your criteria.

@MuhammadTanveer-gw3pt 5 месяцев назад

I found in product description it says for NVME protocol, the maximum ssd support is 8T , and for M.2 B-KEY SATA protocol is 4T SSD.Does that mean I can get maximum 12 tb storage in total? Or I have to buy 4/4 nvme or 2/2tb sata ssd?

@ArtIsRight 5 месяцев назад

1x 8tb and 1x 4tb for the respective protocol, there's only 2 slots. Yes you can get 12 TB total, I would not recommend combining them as RAID

@RaphaelMatto 2 года назад

Again, really interesting. One question: my fastest external drive is a Samsung 2 Terabyte T5 SSD & I get about 500 Mbps write/read with a speed test on my 2018 MacBook Pro with its Thunderbolt 3 ports. With your setup in this video, would I also get the speeds you're seeing (1400 / 2800 write/read), or are you getting those speeds because of the faster Thunderbolt 4 ports on your Mac Studio? If I could expect those speeds, why is this so much faster than my T5? Maybe the power supply has something to do with it? Also, how is your SSD formatted? I'd probably go with FAT because I'd want to run BootCamp & have it be compatible with Windows. Do you think that would make the write/read speeds slower?

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

No Samsung T5 uses mSATA drives that can run up to 6 Gb/s but most of the time would not reach that that. So the speed that you are seeing would be the speed that you would get with the dock as well. You are maxing out the drive. I'm getting the higher speed because of TB3 and fast NVMe, nothing to do with fast ports on the Mac studio, you would get this speed with any TB3 or newer ports. Unless you need to use both OS I would not do FAT, too much limitation. I would consider EXFAT but then overall macOS works best with APFS or HSF+.

@teddym2808 2 года назад

From what I can tell from the pressure of just the 970 evo, which is single sided, this could not take dual sided.....???

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

I have to check.

@gomez3420 2 года назад

I do not feel that the device has a feature set that is worth the asking price. Especially for the Mac Studio

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

I have been using it for the past month, it is really great, one of those set it and forget it with Mac studio, it works really well.

@iPadDiary 2 года назад

Hi Art, when you use the double bay, what would the transfer speed on a say 30 Gbps MVNE drive be? Won’t they be half the speed? I don’t really see the point of having a double MVNE disks. Just wondering. This question relates to another video, which I think was a USB 4 enclosure, most likely Orico. I couldn’t readily locate the video, so…

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

The point would be to double the capacity but but before you run into any NVMe and NGFF bust limitation, you are going to hit the overhead limitation on TB3 first. So the speed that you see now is about the speed that will get. This would depends on you configure it as well. The fact that both of these ports uses different connection type is a miss in a way. This is the other video that you are referring to ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4IHVeU8_1Jk.html

@WillCarterOldAccount 2 года назад

I don’t understand why you wouldn’t be able to access your data on the nvme after taking it out of the dock.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Probably mis understood what I said in the video, let me clarify. You can still access data on your NVMe if you physically take it out of the dock. I was referring to a situation where someone is physically away from the dock, on a trip, etc. you won't have access to the data unless you take the dock with you.

@WillCarterOldAccount 2 года назад

Ah! I see. I was worried that the dock had some sort of encryption so that you couldn’t use the nvme drive with any other m.2 to usb adaptor

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

@KennyZ-j3e Год назад

Hi Art. Amy recommendations for thunderbolt 3 or 4 hub which are not rediculously expensive like the caldigit and owc? There are few brands and models from china but not sure if there are reliable for long term use. I dont need sd card reader and built in ssd slot. Preferable with 10gbps type c down stream and DP1.4. thanks a lot.

@ArtIsRight Год назад

That is a combo that I have not seen especially with 10 GbE and NVMe.

@KennyZ-j3e Год назад

@@ArtIsRight i think most thunderbolt docks comes with hdmi instead of display port, except caldigit and a few others which i may not be aware of. Thanks

@ArtIsRight Год назад

There are a few that comes with DP, and yes most will include HDMI standard.

@duanecuaresma5663 2 года назад

Hey Art! Great content. Coz of you, I bought the Benq PD3220u. Now, on to this dock.. What's your final verdict? Would you recommend it for a MacBook Pro 16 over say the CalDigit ones?

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

They are different, if you will use the NVMe then I would give this dock a try, if you are seeking other ports then the CalDigit one might be a better choice. It all comes down to need

@haydnwee 2 года назад

Looking to get a MBP and seriously considering this dock. Is there any other brands offering similar features as this dock (for comparison sake)?

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

J5 Create has a dock that I review, it is powered and the NVMe speed is much slower than this. There may be some other brands, but I have not looked into it.

@Hobo_X 2 года назад

I just wish thunderbolt docks weren't so prohibitively expensive. Even the cheapest ones are like $250 minimum and those aren't very good. The fact that good ones start at $350 and go up from there is so insane.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

It is the chipset that cost a lot of money, all intel direct license.

@dominicpascal5512 Год назад

I wonder why do these all need a power supply. There should be enough power through USB-C from the computer, no?

@ArtIsRight Год назад

Not for these Thunderbolt Dock, TB take more power and PD from USBC or TB is not enough to sustained all of the components.

@dominicpascal5512 Год назад

@@ArtIsRight right, that makes sense. Just makes them a lot less portable, which is quite a bummer. btw thanks for taking the time to respond. of course I'm subscribed by now.

@ArtIsRight Год назад

There are some other ones that are bus powered and you should look at those instead. They won't be thunderbolt, however.

@tell-dtruth5470 Год назад

Can this dock connect two computers and be switch between computer 1 and oomputer 2?

@ArtIsRight Год назад

no this dock does not do kvm

@peterxyz3541 2 года назад

400.00?!?!? (350 actually) no SD scars slot?

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

This is one of many options.

@tanmengazmil Год назад

Hello good sir i just got a mbp 16 m1 max so considering a docking station .. so do you still recommend this product ?

@ArtIsRight Год назад

If you have a need for NVMe, possibly. however I would look at your workflow and what you need before making a decision.

@tanmengazmil Год назад

Ok so i am a photographer that does lightroom and davinci resolve.. planning to connect a secondary monitor plus all the other stuff like external hardisk and etc

@ArtIsRight Год назад

This can work.

@V3gaz0502 2 года назад

do you know if the 1.4 display port support 4k120hz? thank you

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

It should but I'll run a test with the 4K 144 Hz

@V3gaz0502 2 года назад

@@ArtIsRight pls let me know. thank you

@V3gaz0502 2 года назад

@@ArtIsRight were you able to test that. many thanks

@TibNguyen 2 года назад

can i use PC and mac studio for access storge as the same time?

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Sometime no, that would bring up a lot of issues. What you are looking at is more of a NAS rather than a dock.

@TibNguyen 2 года назад

@@ArtIsRight oh, i see. Have you testing the TerraMaster TD2-Thunderbolt 3 PLUS?

@zsoltcselenyi622 2 года назад

Hi, Can you please check the 10Gbps USB A connection speed with an SSD? M1 Mini USB A ports are useless for such purpose as they provide only 200 MByte/s maximum speeds… So all high speed external drives have to be connected to the Thunderbolt port 😔

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

I get 10Gbps 992 MB/s Write 924 MB/s Read

@zsoltcselenyi622 2 года назад

@@ArtIsRight Great to hear! Thanks!

@zenphotocraftmedia8326 2 года назад

they should put a sd card reader and the cf card reader

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

There are some other docks that may have those. SD is easier to find. CF is still currently being used but for the most part is now a deprecated, no new innovation on that front. All focus is now on CFExpress and possibly CFast. However, finding a dock with any of these com bo would really difficult for said reasons. Not that you can't find one but lots of search required.