It hit me when he said "It was like walking through a world of tranquil",and the inquisitor replies "We're not even people to you"i really love tresspasser.
"Well, some of them come from Tevinter and some are Ben-Hassrath spies... but I like the stories where the villain was the man beside you the whole time. The best villains don't see themselves as evil. They're fighting for a good cause, willing to get their hands dirty." -Varric Tethras on where villains come from.
So, apparently the Solas romance was added in at the last minute, so now all I can think of is the Head Developer going: "Hey, you know what would REALLY screw with their emotions?"
That would be nice, but I wouldn't wager on someone under agreements with Bioware would spill the beans in such an obvious manner. If that were the case, you would be under quite heavy law-breaking. Not to mention, ghost writers aren't needed for projects as big as that, they have their teams for that, and if they indeed are employed from time to time, it wouldn't be for main storyline, it wouldn't even get close. We're all excited for DA4, but there is no need for shady info in order to make the excitement bigger ;)
"One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part, and the skies will open wide....when he rises, everyone will see." - Sandal, Dragon age 2
I've always thought Sandal's prophecy means Solas will succeed in tearing down the Veil and restoring all of the lost magic. I have pages (unposted) of fanfiction for my Inquisitor having to deal with an onslaught of demons, powerful dark mages, and eventually Solas himself, with all of his power as a god restored. (My Inquisitor saves him and proves he fucked up instead of killing him since I always promise that at the end of Trespasser.)
Liu theres one detail you need to consider. Theres proof in game that mankind and the other races emerged only after the fall of arlathan. And this quickening as disproven by trespasser is just mere coincidence because man appeared around the time the tales of immortality told by their predecessors turned out to be false as they aged and died. Also, Solas told the inquisitor the restoration of the elven world would mean certain death to "your kind". He also puts it in a way that man's extinction will be collateral damage in the process of bringing the fade back. All of this points to one thing...the elven world's environmental conditions are fatal for humans and the rest(Blackmarsh from DA:O kinda proves this wrong, but it was the fade itself, its not clear what properties the physical world will have when merged with the fade). Whatever the inquisitor has to do, it has to be done before the veil is destroyed.
@@juicecan6450 The Inquisitor cant do much anymore, they lost their arm that made them as powerful as they were. Once again a new hero has to save the world
Ugh, I'm in love with the feeling of urgency in this song. It's like time is running out and you know you're incredibly near to finding out the truth. Such a badass theme.
"feeling of urgency" Well yeah SPOILER ALERT: You find out that one member of your party is a fucking GOD and he's planning to decimate whole creation. Also, this song really fucking amazing.
I hope Solas is the final boss in Dragon Age 4, it has the potential to be one of the best boss battles in history as well as one of the most tragic boss fights ever.
I was genuinely NOT okay after beating this DLC. I was way too invested in the plot and characters of this game. I couldn't stop thinking about what unfolded for DAYS. Amazing game. It's the only one that has ever made me feel like I was truly in it.
I just completed Trespasser 2 days ago and I feel this exact way. I haven't stopped thinking about it, pouring over everything that happened in my head over and over. Absolutely one of the best games I've ever played!
@@christopherdavidson17 I've played the ME Trilogy. I've also played the ME2 DLC as it was in the days before Origin when you could pirate them, but ME3 put me off the DLC for it. I just lost interest after that.
+Finally Free +Spectre Walkthroughs You fail to get the point. When you love someone you don't see him/her as a monster. No matter how many times people say it, you still love that person. The same old "Love is blinding." Another interpretation could be that loving someone can change them. But all of these arguments are pointless really. Neither true evil nor true good exist. It's just the crap that we feed our soldiers with, so they would die for us on the battlefield. man kills elf. Elf kills man. Man calls elf evil. Elf call man evil. It never ends. Your "good" is nothing but your way of looking at someone else's "evil."
@@greyfox6786 Of course Good and Evil exist and outside of just used by governments. When used by Humans to 'kill the infidels' or the Elves 'kill the shemlen", those are expected justifications using 'we are good, they are evil' and are very common for all known history and that's what your referring to or when one side justifies doing inhumane actions actions against the other. But you do realize that most soldiers when they're on the battlefield, the concepts of 'for the glory of X doesn't exist, right?' Well, outside of the DA universe at least. But if Good and Evil didn't exist outside of the the petty morality you feel governments feed soldiers as the only reason they go to die, than the world should be infinitely different than how it is. If there really was no Good or Evil, people wouldn't really object to mass killings, executions, outside of their own small group or country, it didn't happen here or harm them, so why should they care even if ta government says it's 'evil'. It's still not them. The same goes for individuals who endure severe hardships while helping others far from them for no other reason other than it needed to be done or it was the right thing. Why would they act for no reason without the government telling them to do this?
@@Slayer398 Good and Evil is not subjective especially not in a fantasy setting, Good and Evil must exist in worlds where angels and demons reside, Tolkien end of story. Sounds like the tourists screaming about not wanting alignment systems in ttrpgs. Alignments exist even in RL lmfao.
"They call me the Dread Wolf. What will they call you when this is over?" I just had chills when I heard this line. Gareth David-Lloyd did such a tremendous job as Solas and judging from this little sneak peek we got, it's going to get even better. I can't wait for DA4.
Trespasser was bioware writing at it's peak. Easily up there with some of the greatest DLC as far as I'm concerned. I hope they learn from their mistakes with andromeda and anthem and get back on form for DA4. They can't afford to mess up another game. Dragon age is bioware's magnum opus and DA4 is the perfect opportunity to redeem themselves.
@Cathal logging online to your bioware/ea account (via the game itself), syncing your achievements, uploading/syncing save files to the cloud, multiplayer, the golden nug. basically, every function that requires you to be online for it to work is a live service element. so far we were not forced to be online to play the game and there is no indication that would change. live service elements is a very vague term and at the end if the day we still don't know what it will entail for dragon age, so it's a bit premature to worry about.
@Cathal jedi fallen order is great! anyway, yeah, i get what you are saying. i'm not saying that it won't be something to worry about, but we don't know yet. let's wait till we hear more before we go for the doom and gloom reaction ;)
@Cathal dont lose hope. EA HAS to have live services its not a decision on Bioware's part. It's just so EA can make more money but it might be an Inquisition thing where it's barely present and very optional and not the main focus.
@Cathal don't know if you know this, but the live service statement was made 3 years ago when they started work on DA4, but since than they started from the beginning since some off Bioware staff left and some where moved to Andromeda and Anthem. Since they started knew, the original news are not reliable anymore. Unless I missed something that stated they still use live elements
When i defeated Corypeus i was like meh.. it's really anti-climatic but then... Trespasser is just sooooo good. i feel completed.. can't wait Dragon Age 4..
"I lay in dark and dreaming sleep while countless wars and ages passed. I woke still weak a year before I joined you. My people fell for what I did to strike the Evanuris down, but still some hope remains for restoration."
Trevor Morris really did such a fantastic job with the soundtrack of this game. As much as I loved Inon Zur's soundtrack for DAO and a few tracks from DA2, his time was done with the franchise. Trevor's soundtrack really breathed new life into the franchise that it desperately needed, especially after DA2. Songs like this and the main theme do such an amazing job giving this game and franchise the feeling of grand scale. I hope they bring back Trevor for the next game.
Inon was on another project ,. It was not because his time had passed. Do not say imbecilities, he is a great composer and he continues doing great works for others.
@@Lucas-iw5xo Calm down. I never said he wasn't a great composer. I just meant that it was time for the franchise to move on from him and do something new. Which they did and it worked out.
+Patrick Tan "Hell" just means that you disagree with God. Nothing more, nothing less. There's no evil. There's no good either. It's just your way of looking at things and picking a side based on your ideologies and beliefs.
I've always loathed that saying. Almost all roads, good or bad, are paved with good intentions. That phrase is almost always used in a way to dismiss compassion as if compassion doesn't generally lead to better and more wholesome lives. Solas is not mistaken in his intentions, in the countless deaths he'll have, in the result of his ambition. He is clever, much cleverer than those who mean to do a good thing and are unaware of its cost. He's factored in the cost and still believes it's worth pursuing because, to him, this world is a mere shadow, a murky reflection to what it once was, and he knows it to be true *because he lived and ruined it himself.*
@@werty21100 Sure, but as I said above, all roads are paved with good intentions. Do you believe the Inquisitor had ill intentions when closing the Break? Do you believe the Hero of Ferelden had bad intentions? The truth is there are a seldom few who intend to act as villains. All roads are paved with good intentions because almost everyone who lays a brick and smooths mortar in its gaps believe themselves to be a hero, to be a good person, doing the world a good. No matter where that road leads.
Am I the only one to think that Solas is actually maybe the best character ever seen in Dragon Age ? Also one of the bests antoganists that I know in RPGs
At the begginning of the game I didn't like it so much as Cassandra, Cullen, or Blackwall. But the more you talk with them the more they get interesting. And well Solas show as much as he's awesome with trespasser.
Oh gods, I can see it now: he'll attempt to control the darkspawn but it'll backfire and him and his pro-elven covert organisation become tainted and indoctrinated by the Archdemons Razikale and Lusacan who are themselves controlled by Elgar'nan who offers Lavellan the opportunity to either destroy the darkspawn (which also destroys the Grey Wardens), control them or synthesise darkspawn and non-darkspawn DNA to forge a peace.
Thats the kind of song that you get flashbacks from the whole game when you hear it. All of the moments that you laughted at, all of the moments that you cried at. What a game
Finished Trespasser some time now. I usually Picture myself in my characters (I finished Trespasser as a Human Tempest, romacing Cassandra) and I was Solas friend. When I found out about his plan and he took my arm I was speechless, because I was really in sync with my Inquisitor, his choices, his personality, it was me and well... This songs brings back that feeling of the ground disappearing under me, as I learn the frightening truth. Thanks for uploading it
That Saarebas was the toughest fight in the game for me. I loved that he was not really a plot-necessary character, just an insanely powerful individual that you were not getting out of fighting. Such a great game overall.
I really wanted to hate him for everything he did, but... oh god I can't. What a glorious shithead! My inquisitor was such a mess when he found out about the Dread Wolf thing
MsTenseiga I seriously hope the "Let me join you" option in the Solas Trespasser cutscene has that consequence in the future :) But yeah I've set up my entire playthrough longsightedly! My Warden is kinda evil, my Hawke is a bit of a drifter and my Inquisitor is good in their mind but that self richousness can lead her down a dark path like Solas.
GOD this is such an amazing theme. It has an incredible sense of urgency that time is about to run out. You're nearing the truth and fighting the hardest you can to live. Then that transition into the calm version with solas.. God it gave me goosebumps
Something rather poetic about my Dalish Inquisitor telling him his plans are madness and vowing to stop him and thus championing humanity. I sort of get the impression Mythal wants the Inquisitor (as her champion if they drank from the well) to stop him anyway, especially since she put Urthemiel's or Mythal's soul through the eluvian before he came to see her, if she wanted him to succeed she would have given it to him.
We dont even know yet what has Flemeth sent through the eluvian. And the inquisitor will not be champion of anything as: 1- Not every inquisitor drinks from thw well (as you mentioned) 2- The inquisitor will not even be the main character next game. 3- Whatever Flemeth sent through the eluvian, is definitely more related to Morrigan.
Trespasser is the best DLC I've ever played. It wraps up DAI's story so perfectly, and it hits all the right emotional notes. On top of that, the soundtrack is stunning.
My favourite soundtrack ever from a Bioware game. Gives me goosebumps specially when I play Trespasser & talk to Solas at the end. They did really well with this expansion. 👍
I cannot see Solas as an evil character. actually, he was a hero for his people. He fought alone against the more powerful beings of his time and realized the only way to save the world and his people was to vanish them. So he created the veil and in doing so, everything he loved and cared just fucked up. So he intend to fix something that was not supposed to happen... The current world exist because of his doing... the current world is a mistake. I really can understand his doings... let's hope there is a way to torn apart the veil and restore the older world without the massive killing...
I don't think he's neither villian nor hero, he's just a person who would do anything to bring back those he loved and as the protagonist we're just people protecting their own kind
when solas asked why did he do all this, creating all this mess. His answer "because they killed mythal". Was heart wrenching and a poster guy who would destroy whole world for people he loved.
A very underrated piece of music. I want to climb a mountain to this. Finally finished this dang game after having bought it three years ago. I'm still emotionally not ok lol. What a great game. What amazing writing. The music! The characters! The lore! The geography! The art! Everything about it! I love this world! My heart is bursting! Thank you to everyone involved with creating it (although I seriously doubt they are reading this, it's like 4 years after release lol) I didn't want it to end. I hope the next installment lives up to this one. It's a pretty high fucking bar imo.
OMG I remember the way my palms sweat on the controller while this played. How desperate I was to unload the anchor every few moments so it wouldn't blow up in my face. So, so well done. I still adore all the music from Inquisition. And as this song plays I'm always like, "Dammit, Solas!" So good.
This sounds tragic and heroic. Solas isn't a villain. He is an anti hero. The reason he is your characters antagonist is purely due to where you sit with respect to the repercussions of what he deems is necessary.
I knows its practically tradition to be a new character for every dragon age, but I hope we get to be our inquisitor again. I feel Solas as the main baddy, plus the personal ties we form with him have it set up that the Inquisitor has to be either at the forefront of the story or the main character again. For the arm, some kind of cool arcane magically grafted arm that works along the lines of the anchor.
I love all dragon age games, with 100s of hours and multiple playthroughs in both dragon age and mass effect But the Inquisitor promising to redeem or kill Solas right when 2:10 kicks in may be my favorite moment in all bioware games
i brought dorian and bull, this song blasting when Bull shouting like: "THAT'S ALL YOU'VE GOT BITCHES? I WAS IN SEHERON".. and dorian said to the last saarebas boss: "unshackled huh?" "desperate yourself huh?" then the saarebas losing himself by calling hordes of demons and let him consumed by pride demon, then dorian shouts "WE CANNOT KILL HIM INQUISITOR!! USE YOUR MARK!!!" Whoa, my right hand and my both knees are shaking with excitement, badass ending on my 180++ hours.
Listening to this while reading through this heartbroken comment section is the most intense emotional roller coaster I've ever been on ;_; I miss my egg friend so much.
I mean the inquisitor literally stabs a dagger on tentiver on the map as this music plays and thr camera zooms in....its quite clear at this point we are going there
I can’t get over how beautiful this song is.I can listen to this all day long.This song makes me want to play Dragon age 4 again and it makes me so eager for the next game to release
I absolutely love this song. Possibly my favourite Dragon Age song yet. It just combines epicness and scale so well with a sort of tragic, yet heroic in the face of the odds, undertone.
@@ridalger16 I think if they do that, that will have serious consequences. I mean if you look at EA's recent screwups... Mass Effect: Andromeda was bad but people already had a bad taste in their mouth because of Mass Effect 3's ending. Battlefront 2 was absolutely stunningly horrible (at launch), but people already hated the first Battlefront, so no big worries. Nobody expected Anthem to be good, so whatever. But Dragon Age 4? Inquisition was amazing, people loved it and so did critics. If they fuck that one up with this live service bullshit (especially after Jedi: Fallen Order clearly showed (to EA, other publishers don't need to be shown) there is a commercial interest in single player games), people will riot.
@@Gab98Spyro EA needs to remember why they're called Electronic ARTS. Gaming is an art form. Perhaps the ultimate art form. At one point, they knew that.
@@ridalger16 They know that, they just don't care. Did you hear about that time they defended lootboxes because ''restricting microtransactions is a way of censoring art''? They actually said that.
This song really is a masterpiece. I love how they took Solas original theme, which was sorrowful but peaceful, and turned it into something filled with, pun intended, dread.
That's what I want for DA4 as well! I want us to be unable to stop Solas, and then the rest of the game is spent living with the consequences of the veil being torn down
Maybe we can co exist with the elves... i think i get it when he said thedas will be destroyed in order to restore the elven world.. i think he meant that in order for his people who tool refuge in the veil he must also destroy the veil where he imprisoned the old gods.. and it will unleashed wrath in thedas...
His themes are incredible! Goosebumps!! Solas/Fen'Harel is honestly one of the greatest villians I've experienced in any fiction. He's layered, realistically emotional, well-rounded, fleshed-out and just so well-done. And if you romance him? Even more harrowing. Holy shit.
One thing I wish they had done was reveal Solas as the Dread Wolf in Tresspasser, instead of at the end of the campaign. We the players were already being blown away by all of the revelations in this DLC, finally revealing Solas's true nature at the end would have just been an unreal twist. Still amazing game overall.
Actually there are hidden codex you can find to reveal who Solas really is when completing tresspaser, if you mean by "reveal" Solas real identity as dread wolf. On the last dialogue with Solas you can choose to call Solas by dread wolf if you find all 4 of those codex
I'm all in as playing as the inquistor in DA:4 feel like it would much more meaning and depth into stopping solas as the inquisitor someone who knows and experienced things along solas.
They will have to devise a new character to attract new players and make the game marketable even for people who have not played DA so far. But nevertheless, what I at least hope is that they can give us the choice to play as inquisitor or as a new character. That would be the fair thing in my opinion. And then the "new people" would just be new companions. As for the Inquisitor's disability, there have been heroes in stories with disabilities. If the writers are smart enough they can actually turn the disability into an asset.
Well maybe the dwarves have something technological to fix the missing arm... I would love to be my male mage and necromancer qunari inquisitor Kaaras Adaar
The inquisitor will arrived again , there is a power , when the inquisitor bound his will the the well of sorrow something came with it, maybe a fragment of mythal . Maybe a new god will arrive
"Solas knows everything about us. Who we are, how we work, our strenghts and weakness..." "Then we find people who doesn't know... we will save our friend from himself, if we can" *Tevinter Imperium* So, our character in the next Dragon Age will be a total badass.
I know what I am playing in DA4, a slave elf mage destroying his shackles, disrupting the magisterium, and doing the same thing to Solas what Solas did to other evanuris.
Always makes me cry , he was like my best friend/tutor on Inquisition.I did a Mage Elf and i was fascinated with his historys . When the moment came for the revelation all what i wanted was to save him from himself like some Xavier Vs Magneto dinamic playing chest togheter in the fade even after tresspasser
This theme made it feel like it was truly an ending, an end to the adventures of the Inquisitor and end to the Inquisition as an organisation restoring order. It also marks a beginning, that the Inquisitor and Inquisition has become a peacekeeping force, that will lead into Dreadwolf and you'll probably most likely see or hear word of the Inquisitor and of the Warden if they lived
So fuckin relatable I was trying to convince myself that Witcher 3 must be the best game in history, but it just feels wrong My heart belongs to DA and ME
