hi everyone! I also forgot to mention hard rock one tricks as a beginner. these kind of people rely on hard rock to even play the game, so I highly suggest that they go back to lower star ratings and play no mod because only being able to read AR10 is not good. it limits your reading and limits your potential - I see a lot of people who play hard rock only and have bad accuracy, because they're reacting and not reading. you're no different to the jump one tricks from 2020. hidden one tricks are fine (unless you want to play in tournaments) because hidden is preferential, it doesn't change the map difficulty values at all but hard rock forces AR10 or at least increases AR on a lot of maps.
the unfortunate reality of learning a new skillset is needing to put your ego down which was the hardest part for me needing to go back 3 or 4 stars lower just to build fundamentals that i ignored was crushing, but aided improvement :)
I hate these new players having egos larger than the fucking moon and whining on comment sections saying that "I can read whatever he's playing" Osu has turned into a cesspool of these talentless shits
It doesn't have to be crushing, with the right mindset it can even be pleasing You could try to see the comforting fact that you now don't make the same mistakes at all on these lower stars maps, those that remain are only what you're training for
@@macchiato_1881 I can see AR11... Am I good to aim them in time... ABSOLUTELY NOT. The new players are just incapable to differenciate between what you can see and what you can do while seeing circles.
@@hamzagharbi3875 for the love of god. Everyone can see ar 11. We all have fucking eyes. Can you READ ar11? No. If you dont understand how to tap and aim ar 11 then you arent READING it. If you are given some text of unknown language in front of you, of course you can see the text. But do you understand what the text means? No you dont. Do you understand how to play high ar? No you dont.
Yeah, you won't improve if you're afraid of messing up your stats. I constantly see people above my profile accuracy (shit like 99.2% or 99.6%, even, while my profile acc is 96.44) but when I compare top plays, I usually have a higher top play and more of them even if they're around the same rank as I push myself harder to improve my aim etc
Certainly! I remember that time when I lost 1% acc when I attempted to explore HDDT mod on Hitorigoto (4*). After playing low 5 star maps, I was able to get back at my acc (98.20%)
Hey, Tony. I've been playing a lot of 3* maps lately, especially older maps, and have noticed a tendency when you play jumpy-er maps with HR on. Usually, the strain wouldn't be all that demanding, but putting HR on some of them makes the jump patterns trickier to hit, reason being the higher AR, OD, and CS. This, in my opinion, makes some of the jump patterns quite demanding in terms of rhythmic accuracy and raw aim. As long as you can read upwards of AR 9.8 and consistently hit CS 5.2 and higher jumps with good accuracy, it's a nice way to broaden your skillset a bit. The rest is simply moving on to harder maps once that gets too easy.
There is our comfort zone where we can perform somewhat confidently, there is the improvement zone where we can make mistakes to learn from, and there is the too hard zone where we're at a higher risk of learning bad habits that we'll later have to unlearn to actually improve.
I dont think i have a confort zone, i played saitama 2000 normal and did not suck at first, but then i played onpu no uta normal and was bad. Played saitama again and could not follow the notes, losing rythm (osu!taiko)
11:06 This had me wheezing, also this video is very very similar to what stage I am in right now. You said everything that I was experiencing. Keep up the good work (:
i played HR since the day i started and i couldn’t play anything else but i stoped improving but last month i realized that i needed to stop playing mods and i have improved soooo much
I still remember watching your first part of beginners mistake a few months ago. It is a good guide, my acc isn't bad and i'm improving steadily thanks tonehh
Lucky I stumbled into this video. I was going straight down this path trying to get at least 95-98 ACC with HR, ACC, and NM. And I was NOT having fun doing that so this is some helpful advise to balance out my growth a bit.
I can resonate with this. I used to think acc was everything, but now I think differently. Of course, I still push for acc, but I try to push myself as well. A variety of maps in your beatmaps folder helps I guess (Streams, jumps, tech, etc.)
Im rank 10,645 rn, and have been rank 10k for like the past 4 or 5 months, all my top plays are either NM 6+ star jump maps and (HD)HR maps, and my overall acc is 99.33%. Basically everything you said in the video hit the nail on the coffin, i really felt like i have not improved at all for so long, i cant do DT burst higher than 220bpm but thats really because i never play DT. Gotta say this video really helped me opened my eyes on how dumb and blinded i was thinking i hit a hard wall, maybe it was just down to me not willing to move out of my comfort zone, thank you for making this video really, might come back one day to check if ive improved by then!
Got so focused on mastering other skill sets that my jump skill decrease a lot and to think it was “yOu dOn’T pLaY jUmP mApS lOL” was the best answer possible
one additional thing for aim practicing i got from other games is that u snap to every jump notes and every first stream notes it helps u builds muscle memory better but will strain a bit so try relax while doing so
Hey man, I love your videos and I can say that some of the things I've learnt have helped me improved for sure, you haven't been uploading so, just wondering if you're fine.
This video really helps, because anytime i look for tips for improvement, all i see is "play the maps you can do really well until you can do them with 99 percent then move on to harder songs" this really does not help because instead of learning new skills im just perfecting the ones i already know, and its not like perfecting it is gonna make me better, i already know these skills, they dont need to be perfected, because at the early stages of the game even in 4 star maps, most players still get shit misses due to being nervous, which causes a drop in accuracy. I really appreaciate this video because it tells me its okay to do songs i can only get an 93 percent or a 87 percent, because i dont have to master one star rating before being ready to go on to the next. This video taught me that the game isnt about perfecting your accuracy on a certain difficulty, its about challenging yourself (not by an insane amount of course) by going a step further, because when you do, you may not get the best play but over the course of a day or a couple of days, you're accuracy will get much better on these harder songs. Thank you tonehh, your videos have really helped me in my osu journey, because before i was doing 4 stars with at most 85 percent accuracy, and following your tips, fast forward about 2 to 3 weeks later, im now doing 4.7 stars with an average of around 93 percent accuracy, again, thank you for these tips and videos that you make, because they are really helpful, more helpful than any search you do just to find people saying "play more", because sometimes its not about playing more, sometimes its about changing the way you play to improve your skill, rather than having a really bad play style, and not making any good plays, getting accs around 70 percent on every single map you do.
from my journey: i started to put mods on normal and easy maps to get accustom to play faster or challenge with SD and HD-but my mindset was "ok let's try them and then go ahead" . Re-start learning 3* and 4* maps was ofc struggling because was fustrating and something new, but again -the mindset- is important; you struggle in something because you are not used to it, so play it as long as you became confident and move on.
damn I feel clever cus I've been unknowingly playing like you recommend. Another thing worth mentioning is that osu can be really unrewarding sometimes, especially when a random high * play ends up being your top play and all the other plays you spent hours on are way down in your top. This is why it's important peppy tweaks the pp system, but also why you shouldn't solely care about pp as your main motivation provider.
imo the pp system is a fail in general and shouldn't exist something else entirely should decide your placement something that can't be abused through specific mapsets
@@szefron thats my point its not a good system if it can't be a perfect system players will always find a way to abuse it so it has to not be map related
100% agree on that last part, barely fc'd 5 star resurrection spell and i felt so good about it, then later fc'd tower of heaven dt (the 3.9 star one) and didnt really feel much about it even though its 160 pp and my top play, but resurrection was 150. maybe im just more comfortable with high bpm bursts tho idk
I love your videos so much, I'm glad I found this channel. Every time I watch your videos, I regain the motivation to play that I had lost. I hope you have some time to relax just as you have adviced many players to take breaks occasionally
Is this an okay method for improvement : So basically I alternate between 6 stars and easy 7 stars for fun. Sometimes when I'm just bored and don't have any fun maps to play with I just go to 7 stars to see if I've improved or gotten better or just for fun. Is this a fine method? (6 stars i mainly play jump maps for fun. cannot play stream maps if over 185 bpm. tech maps sometimes. 7 star maps are just a mix of both jumps and small burst sections (9 to 12 notes in quite high bpm in my skill range). )
Awesome video as always! Also, I'm not afraid to say that the profile that Tony reviewed was my profile about 4/6 months ago. (My maximum combo is still at 3232) I have improved a lot, I can safely say. The reason I played 1-2 star maps with mods was mainly just to hear what those songs sounded like with nightcore, and they just happened to end up in my top plays. Also, when was the last time you saw a 6 digit have Nice Boat in their top plays 😆
tbh getting a fc (whatever acc) on a 3* map feels like a win and I usually just switch to the next map in the listening. Sometimes there's a Map that seems interesting and becomes part of my warmup
i remember watching your videos last year when i started osu, now i realized i was enjoying the wrong gamemode. thanks for still being there at the start tho!
pls to all osu!newbies, play (from the beginning) all mods like dt hd, hr hd, hr, dt, ez, hd, ez hd, fl+++ -allmod. play all kind of maps like tech, stream, burst, fingercontrol, crossscreenjumps, consistency, stamina and so on!
That's why i'll quit dt farming for a while to play high 4-5* as i struggle with it. I have really high acc 99.6%. Now, I'll push my limits using no mod or hidden. Thanks for the advice!
i have a friend that, whenever he wants to learn a skillset, just plays it until he learned it. But to the extreme. Want to learn EZ? put EZ on 6* and play until you can read AR5. Wanna learn AR11? Put DTHR and play 8* until you can pass. Wanna learn 300-400 bpm jumps? put DT on stuff like 7* space invaders, or other really high bpm maps and play until your cursor is fast enough. And that dude always learns it in a few days, i have no idea how he does
@@joeonline7769 if you wanna check him out just search " Duckyzie " on youtube, he's definitly an interesting player, im curious to see where he's gonna be in a few years
Wow, I can't believe how much you're right, I've always been wondering how I can do like 3 4 star maps but can't pass the other ones, but it's all because I'm just focused on "grinding" 3 star maps for pp and profile accuracy, yeah, you're absolutely right! I'll go try this later when I can finally play osu!
i play the game almost on a cycle, rotating from nomod/hr jumps maps to fast dt stuff to long stream stuff, and repeat. feels very refreshing and it most definitly made me improve very steady.
this video i argue helped a lot, a few months ago i was a jump one trick and i learned how to stream recently. now i can acc maps like mou ii kai, xevel and sidetracked day
What I found that helps is I had my area smaller and I didn’t exactly feel it and jumps, so I decided to make it larger and I finally felt the jumps, another big thing is actually reading the jumps
I’m an EZHDDT farmer and about a year ago I farmed HDDT, I found that after a year I wasn’t able to read ar10 or above, and I sucked at jumps. Now thanks to this vid I’ll play more NM, HR. I probably won’t ever be able to farm HR but I do want to be more well rounded now. Last month I started pp farming again and I jumped from getting my first 200 to getting a 260+ pp play this week, but they are all EZHDDT, its gonna be so hard for me to change this only one skillset I’m good at 😩
At first I felt bad for always farming jump farm maps because it's literally the only maps I can farm, but after that, I started to improve in jumps. I really liked this video!
I admit that i'm afraid to go even further to playing 4* maps cuz i like having SS on all maps i played. Now, i have to brace myself to my face my ego to improve my skills. Thanks tonehh for vid
Thank you for making this video. I used to be at this stage where I only play 1-2 star maps with 3 mod and I really wasn't enjoying it cause I would push myself to ss. After participating in my first tourney did I realised I'm really bad at even low 4 star maps. I finally stopped playing 3 mod, practised burst, streams, aim and more. Now I'm comfortably fcing 4 star maps and every now and then 5 star maps. Too bad I still can't read ar10. I blame that on my old days of playing too much 3 mod
I also think that experimenting with mods is a good thing. I'm definitely in the DT farmer catergory with about 250 hours, highest passes are NM low 7* and highest fcs are DT 5.6* I happen to be decently good at DT compared to other mods, and I enjoy DT, therefore, I play shitloads of DT, and yeah If I play AR 9.8-10.3 for 6 hours straight going to AR9 feels weird but that's natural, and I shouldn't be playing that much DT anyway. I used to fit into the beginner HR one trick because I didn't like lower AR but didn't have the aim for most mid to high 4* maps that had AR9, and gradually I stopped enjoying HR. I actually do want to learn HD, It's fun but it still makes me drop acc and miss more, this is the reason that most of my top plays aren't HDDT, but just DT. I'm not too accurate with streams yet, and my fingercontrol on anything below 180 bpm is shocking, but I have a C rank pass on the 6* deceit without doubletapping if that's worth anything, so my streaming ability isn't completely compromised and definetely improvable. Easily though my strong points are speed and aim, therefore I like quick DT jump maps with some bursts. One of my favourite things to do is go for DT passes on the maps I used to play NM, and I enjoy that. Grabbing some of the maps from your old video was one of the things that turned me from AR10 one trick with no streaming and not even that raw speed, to being able to stream way better, realising that I had decent speed for my rank, once I impove flow aim, accuracy and consistency I can improve from here
I cant wait for the next video! i've always liked playing EZ and low ar maps. There is just something satisfying about clicking circles when there are alot of them of the screen I also have to start training then. I really need to start getting my jumping skills better. Have to say that in your 2020 video where you said to delete the jump maps if you're a beginner... well i actually played jump maps when i started out. so even though i mostly play streams im not That bad at jumps...
THANK YOU SM! I watched ur channel when I was a 7 digit playing harumachi clover farm back in jan but now im a 5 digit who can stream play tech and do jumps (sometimes)
last year i was an aim one trick,after 8 month hiatus,still the same but after getting my first 200 pp i switched to playing speed,switched again to jumps consistency map,and now just basic consistency map
idk but I put HD almost every single time because I read them better without their AR, but apparently now my friends call me a HD player. I do still enjoy playing tech maps with or without HD though.
From this video and the 2020 video. I improved from not being able to hit streams well and struggling with large jumps to being a well rounded 6 digit with a profile accuracy in the low 98% range. I can hit most jumps, I can stream quite well (still struggle a bit on very long streams) and I can hit odd patterns sometimes
i was the kind of player that was only playing low star maps (1-3) and getting ss on them with mods, about a week ago i started to not focus on accuracy and just try to play higher star maps no matter how bad or good i was on them. i can see that my learning curve went up since then.
when i was new to osu, i played a lot of jump maps and getting good at it. then i tried playing burst map after finding out his vid last time. then i got good at playing burst and stream 5* map. but i cant play jump maps now xD
I used to be mostly a burst/stream onetrick but over the last month i practiced jumpd instead of stream and i now can do jumps ! And it made a lot of hard maps possible for me so yea just do both
this video is made for me like match made in heaven as i can stream and have good acc but i suck at jumps ivv been playing for 6 months and am a 6 digit
Best til I can give for jumps is don’t look/follow the notes with your eyes. Look at the screen or center of the the screen as a whole. And just jump to the circles without following them. Every time I try and follow the notes with my eyes I get lost. If I just focus on the screen as a whole it’s like your brain and preifereals just take over.
have to admit, i skipped over the fundamentals for streams when starting out now, realised this a few months ago doe so now atleast i can fc 4.5 star jumps
Started playing osu ~1.5 years ago. And all i was doing is playing long maps. (Sometimes in multiplayer, i scored some pp farm maps, that's all it was) For some reason my main goal was to PASS a map, not to set a good score there. (after 1 year of playing i was able to pass sound chimera 8*) And at this point problem is, that i can't stream below 190 bpm. I overstream every map which is below that number. I downloaded low bpm stream training maps, and trying to play them at least with 70% acc. But may be you know some advises in my case.
i always played high star maps even when i was new lmfao also i learned how to read below ar10 (i could only read ar10 and above) after taking a break from the game and comming back to play and only playing 9,5 and nomod
The point is, you must find a perfect balance between everything. Too much jump maps is bad, too little is bad. That can be applied to almost everything else. That simple.
Can someone link me the skin used from 0:52 onwards? It looks like an aristia/cookiezi edit, but I cant find it anywhere :( I would truly appreciate it
10:49 yaaaa that's why in entire osu history there are very few (less than three) players who could (have) hit ar11 streams. Meanwhile dozens of players can memorize and hit ar11 farm map. And nope, there will never be a "tech farm map" cuz tech by definition is some patterns underweighted in terms of starrating which makes it uncomfortable comparing to common mapping at the same sr. Neither fast sliders nor high bpm low spacing jumps nor finger control can be termed as tech.
I'm a 6 digit whos choked passing uta with 85%, choked passing (3 times) ghost rule with ~80%, ive gotten close to ring of fire top diff pass, toumei top diff, gotten 15 minutes into because maybe 2, I can consistently stream 250bpm and I can do jumps and awkward linears, the best advice id have for other 6 digits is to PLAY RUSTBELL AND KROYTZ MAPS!! play stuff outside of your comfort zone and you'll do extremely well going onward, play marathons too, discipline yourself with time. literally enjoy game by playing hard maps just for passing, maximize playing for fun and only farm for like hour long intervals, don't only farm!!! Once you reach the stage where you can comfortably stream 230, play mazzerin maps with NF/without NF. Play Dragonforce maps, loved maps, marathons, all at 7-8 stars and its really fun, trust me! ! ! That's all my wisdom for now, feel free to ask any more questions on how I improved n stuff
hey, so like does mouse and tablets have any difference? If they do, should I use the one I am already always using. I dont have a tablet myself and I am left handed. I could buy a tablet if I need one. I can play 3.9-4.7 stars map with mouse. I single tap as well.
I feel like the best way to improve in low 5 digit is to just play low ar maps. I’m talking like 0108 style shit. It helped me knock down a lot of walls while I was switching from a farm based play style to a true speed type play style. O’er The Flood was one of my favorite warmups while I was warming up for finger control, and almost any 0108style map was warmup for patterns. I used to extremely doubt people that told me to go to lower AR and low bpm streams because I would watch people like Mrekk and RyuK and they were just ar 10.5+ always and they were top players. It took me until I was 100k to even begin to try to swap away from farm and actually try to improve, and honestly, it was a lot of fun. I wish 0108 was still around to make maps. As a last message to anyone that might read this, if you’re ever worried about ranking, try to look at top scores with your specific mods if you’re supporter. While I was training speed, it really encouraged me to see that I was getting leaderboard spots, even if I was just the dt leaderboard over the hddt leaderboard. Motivation is key in Osu!
Omg I literally told my friend that he got into osu before me and ilhave slowly became better than him in most of the skill sets as too even being able to get B in 6 star and I'm only 400k and been playing for 5 month he was asking how do you do jumps and was over complicating everything I told him to just do it don't play maps from memory and actually try to read it you don't know how to do it because your simple not use go it thank you for this video it's so formal and perfect for beginners like me and my friend
i mean hes telling the truth when he says "if you are bad at ____ play more _____ maps" i used to be horrible at streams and avoided them at all cost, but now i'm able to kinda do them because i played them more and went out of my comfort zone, if you feel bad/upset about getting bad scores then i'm sure you'll be able to get over that too the more you get bad scores when practicing a new skill!
honestly if having jump farm in your top plays bothers you just put on score v2 when playing them, it doesn't change the map at all just the score and the play will be considered unranked.
