osu! PROBLEMS with Tablet that no one really talks about. 

does this mean that touchscreen is the best playstyle

I got so frustrated one day that I decided to swap my left/right hand (left for pen and right for keyboard) And I found out that it is pretty nostalgic. (recalling the past-self, struggling with 2 stars)

I would have loved to see this video when I started to play with a tablet. I'm personnally in a pretty special case (I think), because I began playing osu! with a mouse, but I am left handed, and I have always used the mouse with my right hand. I've never had a problem with it, because I've always been used to it. However, on osu!, aim is really important (it's the point of the game) and I actually realised that with my right hand, it was really complicated for me to aim precisely. I tried to switch with my left hand, but it was worse, as I had never used a mouse with my left hand. So I decided that if I wanted to improve on osu!, I needed to get a tablet. Once I got my tablet, I've got my level back pretty fast (in 3/4 days) and I felt satisfied playing like this. But as I was improving, I felt that my grip was bothering me, so I tried to change the area, the sensitivity, the way I held my pen. Sometimes it was quick, sometimes not, and I've never kept the same grip for long. It took me quite a while to understand that I would probably never find the perfect grip, and it was frustrating, because I had the impression that nobody had the same problem as me. I've been playing osu! since 2017, and with this whole new video that got recommended to me by chance, I finally realised that my problem was actually normal, so thank you, it definitely changed my point of view about it, and will surely help me to not be discouraged from playing osu! in the future, unlike what I did a few times before.

As a mouse player I can testify that we too struggle with grip, sometimes I get up to go drink water or something, come back, and my aim goes from godly to shit and I lose my motivation to play for either a few hours or a few days

Bro this vid is one that’s needed to be available for years. SO MANY people think tablet is superior to mouse with no drawbacks or complications and are frustrated when they aren’t immediately gods or just have to deal with new probs like grip and tablet areas.

that reminds me, for those of you who are left handed (writing hand) and want to switch to tablet (but have played right handed mouse on osu for any period of time), you may be asking 'well how do I deal with this problem? The problem being: 'if I play left handed tablet then I will have to re-learn how to tap on my right, but if I play right handed tablet and keep my muscle memory for tapping on my left hand, then I have to learn how to aim with my right hand'. my advice is as follows: - you're going to have to learn/re-learn something either way. do whatever you feel is more comfortable doing. - i've got a friend who had this exact problem and he had about 400 hours with right hand mouse as a left handed writing person. he decided to re-learn tapping on his right hand in favour of having good control of tablet aim on his left hand (since he is a left handed writing person). it took him a few weeks/months to get into it but i would personally do the same if i was in that position - apparently spare (top 50 player) is a left handed(?) writer but he learned to aim with his right hand (idk how fast he learned to do it but it doesn't matter, he has thousands of hours). - so again, you might have to spend a lot of time re-learning/learning either way depending on how long you've played. or just don't switch to tablet - it's as simple as that.

Just noting some common issues as a longtime mouse player: - Mouse Drift (demonstrated in the video, better than I can put into words) - Mouse Grip (while not nearly as varied as tablet, there are many different ways to hold and use a mouse. Its common for osu players to have a grip completely different from other games) - Grip slip (over time, mouse grip/grip tape will lose adhesion, and move on the mouse because the way you hold it constantly adds pressure against them. Sometimes they "slip" at the worst time) - Surface Slide (The reason we use grip tape; plastic can be slippery, especially if oily or sweaty, and you can't really have that in a game like osu) - Mousepad Preference changes (Like tablet, your preference changes constantly. I went from a soft mat, to a hard pad, to a hardpad on top of a softpad, and now, I don't even use a mousepad) - Un-clean pad or mouse (Sensors these days are really accurate, so keeping the mousepad/surface and the bottom of the mouse clean is a must!) - Space (It's actually pretty hard to get enough space to feel comfortable. I have an 80" desk, and still occasionally hit my hand on things) - Mouse Skate degradation (mouse skates [feet] don't last forever, especially if you play a game like Osu. Occasionally, you will have to change them, and its not fun) - Sensor Cleaning (sensors are sensitive, keep it clear) - Desk/Keyboard space (unlike needing physical space to move it, you also need a pretty clear desk for a mouse to move it, unlike a tablet, which stays in the same spot) - Standardization (Mouse sizes, shapes, weight and general specs suffer from terrible standardization. It can be extremely hard to find one you like) - Wrist movement (Square jumps on mouse are just not a fun time; not impossible, but certainly not as easy as on a tablet; your wrist just doesn't really work that way) - "Particles" (Easily the worst of them all. The sensors and bodies of modern gaming mice are extremely sensitive. It only takes a tiny crumb, or even just dust to throw ones aim off entirely. The amount of times I need to flip my mouse over and blow, or even wipe it down, is ridiculous; and I'm a neat freak who wipes down my desk and peripherals constantly; I literally have cleaner at the end of the desk. Yeah, you should clean your tablet, but normal wear and tear will not affect it nearly as much as it affects a mouse) These are just a few examples of how high maintenance a mouse can be, especially in comparison to the downsides of a tablet. This is written from a more "competitive" standpoint, so a decent amount of it won't apply to the average user, but its still something to think about.

As a mouse player, I still often have to adjust my grip. I have for my entire life found basically every mouse and mouse grip uncomfortable asf (not only in games, but casual use). i tend to switch my grip every week - not in purpose, but my brain makes me switch just to stay little bit comfier. Also while there is no area issues, just finding that one comfortable place on your mousepad to keep your mouse at for optimal aiming is very hard to find. And it differs on how dirty/sweaty your mousepad is. And I know tablet players also have this problem, but especially during summer, osu! is just unplayable due to amount of sweat hand generates. I often had to pause midmap to adjust my grip, not because of mouse drift, but sweaty mouse (and keyboard). So yeah, it doesn't matter which device you use, it is likely to have grip issues eventually.

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Very relatable, I‘m at 1.5k hours and still havent found a truly comfortable grip.

This happens on mouse too, I would switch between a wrist and arm grip and I’m trying to find an in between. So basically finding a grip that causes the least amount of drift and also is most comfortable.

Great video! and i love the gen4 ost you slipped in there ;) my fav gen

a few months ago i was so over my bad pen grip that i literally asked the highest rank player im friends with to send me a vid of his grip and ive been using it ever since LOL

good to see you back tony hope you had a good break

that "missing pen grip in a random day" really happened to me as well, i just instantly forgot how to grip then back to trial and error, literally next week i found my grip back which is nice. the struggle parts where you have to adjust your grip and play area when buying tablet for the first time also gets me, i remember trying from full area to half, but now i can play comfortably on my specific area at 35mm x 19mm and switching from hover to drag mouse also have it's own struggle, not only mouse drift but sensitivity and how much movement (or area) you want to use, which in my own case is quite small

I love your video, because your explanation and examples are so good

your content is great dude

gret video :D is the stream guide getting a speed part sometime?

Great vid tony!

its good to know a lot of others struggle with similar problems like me. I improved my tapping soooo much over the last couple of months, but I feel like my aim got worse (it probably did). I don't even konw what happened but one day I just randomly couldn't be comfortable with tablet. Still struggling with it, trying to find a nice grip.

i usually just switch between 3 grips everyday because they are all comfortable

4:34 ty for this words i really needed them u made my osu day i promise ill keep playing till i be the best

I thank you for this video, (before I say anything, when I was younger I was made fun of by the teacher in front of my class for my hand writing and since then I've always hated writing, and the longer I write the more of an almost hopeless panic that I feel, so the point is that it started off incredibly hard to even hold the pen). School started for me yesterday and soon I plan on going to public school giving me less time to play osu, since skill decay is a thing it makes it much harder to improve but I'm very stubborn so especially given the fact that it'll be harder for me to keep my rank, I'm more motivated to find ways to keep playing and to keep improving, seeing this video brings me even more motivation because now I understand that playing with tablet is just a struggle that you have to bare with, I should've known better than to think that I was the only one struggling to maintain a comfortable grip. Really this video helped me understand that this is just part of the process and that its not over for me yet. I have a keypad coming in as well as heavier switches to practice with (which shipped very late), but once I'm able to start using it, I'm very confident in that it will be one of the things that helps me improve lots and I'm very excited. I'm just rambling now but really thank you for the video and giving me more peace of mind.

AHHHH another video from Tony less gooo

i switched from a few different playstyles, via mouse mousepad and tablet, I'm currently using tablet right now and i have been using tablet for around 2 months and haven't had any problems at all whatsoever, besides one, i have a tough issue hitting jumps along with smaller ones, nor can i hit them as consistently as i can with mouse or mousepad, this could just be an experience thing but i have to use certain skins to even hit SOME jumps accurately, it makes me want to just switch back to mouse, but I'll grind it out a bit more to see if its just experience or not, but still good video tony!

my man whats good

This video unfortunately encompasses my experiences with tablet over the years. Returning to the game with 6+ months of a new area just doesn’t feel right now, time to change again :) Thanks for listing/detailing the struggles though, nice to know a lot of these are common.

This was a very valuable video for me, i just really needed to hear that the endless struggles i’m having with tablet are normal

Thank you! I thought I was suffering alone with these problems. I was getting stressed and thought I was doing something wrong, but this reassures me.

Im glad I found this channel after getting my self wacom one s many vids are really helpful for beginner like me 🙌

Im went through this process a few weeks ago, i felt really bad for like 2 weeks one day my area just felt so strange, liek i never played it before, so i went through the long journey of finding a new area and i wasnt as good as i was on any of them, then i realized that all i had to do was find one that felt comfortable rather than what made me seem to play better, so i found another comfortable area and then i got used to it and good again

recently got a tablet and been playing for 3 days now, I've been trying to have a good minset for the change from mouse and it's really tough, this video just helped me a lot thanks

Forgetting my grip was my main problem too, to fix that i decided to right down notes on how i grip my pen so i wouldnt forget

i got a tablet just to draw on about a year ago, but pretty recently i was bored and started a half-life playthrough with the tablet and very quickly realized nice just kinda suck in general (it also got me into osu which is a plus) i’m about a hair’s width away from just unplugging my mouse and throwing it in the cables box, but it’s still a bit finicky in KDE plasma (specifically: windows that draw their own titlebars can’t be dragged with the pen; certain windows maximize themselves when i drag them with the pen; sometimes a window loses pen focus even though the pen is over it and i have to move my mouse over the window to bring back pen focus) and also minecraft doesn’t take pen input properly even with raw input enabled so i need a mouse to play minecraft

struggles i deal with on mouse: -mouse drift -mousepad getting dirty ,making my sensitivity slower, having to either clean it monthly or readjust my sensitivity, messing up my muscle memory -mouse getting dirty/sweaty can cause bad grip just like on pen, and you can't wrap it in something to prevent it, you must clean it up everytime you play if it's a problem for you

One more tip I do so I dont forget my grip is that I take a picture of it when it feels the most comfortable (yes) and then screenshot the my tablet area in my tablet driver

Wow I needed this video after struggling on tablet for two weeks

A thing that changed a lot for me was changing my tablet cover. At first I thought that I have problems aiming where I wanted to aim, but after I changed the cover to a less „slippery“ one I hit almost everything I wanted to hit

Finally someone did video about this. After many years of playing i still can't hold it comfortably. I just wonder why every top player have super weird grips, ​just got the tablet and the first thing that they does when pick up a tablet pen is usually to hold it like a pen no? So how it works? I don't believe any of them said "hey let's not hold it like a pen and instead use a weird grip" I feel alone with this but video make me think. I spended so much time testing areas, drag/hover, many tablet positions also different tablets, hand positions and im still stuck + I tense so much so it hurts

One of the hot takes I've had for a while is that you have to accept that grip changing, tablet repositioning, desk changes, etc are a part of playing the game - thus, responding and adapting to those changes is a skill you have to practice and master.

Tony, what is your opinion on Tuna's increasing stamina routine?

I struggled with my mouse grip for a while, going from palm to claw, hell I ever tried fingertip. I ended up getting a new mouse, and claw has felt natural and very good for me since.

4:14 finally im not the only one that is inconsistent af because i always forget my comfortable grip

4:13 what is the song that plays in the bg here? I swear ive heard it before, i think its from a game but idk

bro i kept losing the "perfect grip" so often that i just eventually learnt how to grip on every single angle

My grip is, resting my pen on the middle finger and between the thumb and index, move it with middle, thumb, and index. Ring and pinkie stay behind the middle finger for streams as it feels hevier and more flowy, for jumps i raise my ring finger above the middle finger, or on top of the pinkie because it feels lighter and faster, and its a quick move i can do in the middle of anything

I think changing playstyle often is not necessarily an issue. I personally change mine really often (especially my area), and i feel like it helps me a lot with mindblock, it's almost like i'm unlocking a new skill cap every time. Also great video as always

Actually when i was still newer to the game like 120 hours max, i actually drew an outline of my hand placement (i have a VERY small area at the time) so that way my hand would always be in the correct spot, i stopped doing this and did eventually change my tablet area to something bigger, as a plus i moved it to the corner instead of the middle so that way it would be easier to find hand placement even if it wouldnt matter much since i started aiming more with my wrist not fingers. I also had pen slipping problems (for a while) which i came to fix by putting a hair tie on it, i think ive finally escaped the horrors of tablet and can finally rest the struggle.

I managed to find a grip and area that really make me comfortable, but one problem I have with the tablet that prevents me from aiming is the wear and tear of the tablet that makes my pen slide a lot on the tablet...and I don't know what to do about it, I've tried several solutions like putting a piece of plastic or thick paper over the tablet and still nothing worked...

i felt like i was the only one forgetting their own grip, i just thought something as wrong with me yesssss

there is alot of tips that will help very pog

Really cool video! When I started playing the game I were able to play like 6 hours a day without a break and I could've easily played longer. Now a days (about 4y later) I can't even play 1 hour before my hand starts to threating me cause I cramp like every muscle in there. I tried many things now like hovering, many different grips and so on. But I still try every day cause in the end I still love the game and someday I know my grip will get better. And I already know it's gonna come soooo random like everything else when it comes to improving in this game. xD

All my problems with tablet disappeared once I switched to SFA 216 mm from my old 50-90 mm (I was changing it every couple of days because I couldn't find the right one), I literally set a new top play within an hour on an alt flow aim map first try, the only non-farm one at the time. It was 240ish pp, so it wasn't just because of a low amount of skill to gain back. Now I can comfortably play 7* cross screen/8* high bpm jumps on top of expected insane boosts to flow aim, aim control and aim precision (I can literally often get better acc and misscount on a map after changing cs from 4 to 6 just because it makes reading easier). I also can play for longer periods of time now, before switching to SFA I couldn't play for more than 3, rarely 4 hours, now I can play almost indefinitely, like I do multiple 8+ hour sessions per month where I'd stop only after getting too sleepy while playing maps on the outer half of my improvement zone. So my main answer to all complains now is "try full area for a week or two". The only downsides are inability to play high 9*+ jumps (but only on xooty's/rupertion's area, zoomer's one is probably good to go), you'll need a lot of free space on your desk, especially if you can't put your tablet below your keyboard, and it's also more demanding to chair/desk height ratio. Biggest upside is healthier joints due to less precision strain on them, especially compared to sub-whitecat-sized areas (Kariyu really felt this one). Same also goes to full alt vs singletap, full alt is better for your health due to no wrist strain while being less rhythmically precise. Disadvantages of both are negligible outside of top-100 level dt jumps.

so I guess I'm super lucky to never have "forgotten" my grip or having felt like I had an uncomfortable one. I don't think I've had the same grip for all my 9 years, but besides trying out top players grips thinking that maybe my grip was holding me back early on(like in 2013), I didn't really change it much consciously. it probably evolved quite organically over the years, I even noticed I changed the way I move it significantly in the last 2 years or so. used to move my arm way more, but now I move my fingers a lot as well which takes less energy I think. full area first on a cth-470 and now on a ctl-4100 if whoever reading this wonders

I switched to tablet about 2 monthes ago , at first it was weird to play with. Few weeks later after having done some mods to the pen like tennis grip , i stuck with a problem of slippery tablet surface , i use tape and paper for better aim , but i have to change the paper every few days , and my question is do you recommend buying a tablet cover ? I have never used a tablet cover for obvious reasons , idk if the surface of a tablet cover could have the same texture or similiar to paper and im afraid to invest in a tablet cover without knowing how it feels like. Anyways good video as always , have a good day

2 years ago i used to have a pretty small area (63.3mm wide aspect ratio on) with a pen grip where my pen rests on the last joint of my middle finger whilst my index and thumb support the pen by holding it in a kinda pinch grip But the thing is i lost internet for a bit over a year and i decided firetruck it, i wanna make my aim more accurate and stuff because seeing my old plays my aim was always so off and shaky so after a bit of trial and error in finding my new area i got a 113mm wide aspect ratio on area. but the thing is, because my area is now almost 2x bigger, i had to put my fingers higher up on the pen (if you know the pen of the ctl-472 or the ctl-490 there is this thick part near the tip of the pen and i used to hold it there to prevent pen slip but because i had to hold my pen higher i started experiencing pen slip like my fingers sliding down the pen mid play). but then there was this simple yet so stupid remedy. On this normal ball point pen there is this removable tube like rubber pen grip and i decided to brute force that to my tablet pen. I did it until it reached the bottom of the buttons of the pen and now with my new grip (basically my normal pen writing and drawing grip) i can just rest my ring finger where the top of the rubber tube is and there i got my pen grip lol Its not the perfect way of doing it but atleast my pen grip is always consistent and its very comfortable for me. I doubt this will be my last adjustment on my pen tablet things but so far so good havent had to adjust anything yet ww Also i use ctl 490 drag, always been a drag player 🥵🥵😳😳😳😳

I am a mouse player, and I think I use it very strangly. I am basically gripping the mouse using only my fingers to not change the rotation of the mouse, to make the mouse pad of mine (which is small) like a limited area where I move my mouse. one struggle I found by doing that grip for years, is the struggle to find the right distance for a jump. occasionally, I would just miss absolutely easy jumps and get mad because I am bad, but besides that, it really is a grip that I like. when I think about it, I also use that grip for other things too.

as always nice video

Throughout my 8 years of playing with mouse I've been changing not only my grip but also playstyle, I started with mouse only, not using keyboard at all then changed to mouse1 singletap and zx keyboard for streaming only. Nowadays i change my grip like almost everyday and it depends on playstyle that i use, I mixed my old playstyle with full alternate on keyboard for maps that are too exhausting to singletap with mouse only. Never had a problem with mouse drift but sometimes if i don't hold my mouse strong enough it rotates and fucks up my aim, but if i hold it long enough my hand gets tired

I remember buying tablet as a 6-digit thinking it would give me 8* jump aim and then switched back to mouse for a bit because it was so hard to find a grip without hurting my hand after a hour of osu! Then later on, i just kept playing with the same grip until it felt comfortable. Sometimes the words "play more" really are true. Thank you for putting these guides, wish you made these videos back when i started playing the game lmao

I really agree to this ..., Im really already go far train with my normal pen grip but sometimes the grip slip ... and I have to pause and adjust my grip again if I could.

And I thought I am only one with same problem, ty for letting me know:d

I didn't have problem with an uncomfortable grip until I watched this video. Now each time I play I have to adjust it after every pause

I would recommend giving full area a try, and I don't mean try it for one map then swap back if you do badly, try it for a session, you don't want to play full area for more than a session of osu if it's not comfortable as it will fuck up your muscle memory with your normal area, even a session might fuck up your muscle memory depending on how long your sessions are so you can limit it to like a 1-2 hours if you want. I used to play with a 27mm(2.7cm) x 19mm(1.9cm) which is considered as a really small area. I played it for like 7 months and it got to the point where I was finally fed up with the area as it was shaky, i was inconsistent and my grip was kinda getting in the way. So back in April, I tried full area. It was hard at first, going from dragging on a small area to hovering across my entire tablet was hard, but in the first session I got more and more comfortable, in just 3 days I was back to my usual star rating of 5.5-6 stars. My aim became much smoother and consistent as I felt like it was easier to build muscle memory. Also I was primarily aiming with my arm meaning that my grip wasn't an issue because I aimed with my arm instead of wrist. Now, In May, a month after I switched to full area, I've fced my first 6 star, fc'd a 5 minute long stream map and reached top 150k (I can easily reach 5 digit if I grind but right now not focused on pp). Me swapping to full area made me much more consistent at osu to the point where my top plays are more consistent maps instead of farm maps. It's probably the best decision I've made as I've been able to set scores that I wouldn't have been able to do in just a month of playing full area. There are obvious cons with full area like finding it harder to play dt or fast jumps, but with enough experience you can play dt on full area, take xooty as an example. The more you play full area, the better you become (wow no shit), I went from being unable to play crosscreen jumps to being able to hit crosscreen jumps (in ~210bpm context) although dt is hard for me, I can't play dt, never been able to. Thanks for reading this long comment, hopefully it helps you with your struggles. Once again I should state that this is from my experience, majority of people find full area uncomfortable and if thats you then that's fine, it's just a recommendation if you are struggling. You don't have to make the switch to full area if you don't want to.

Sorry to ask but does anyone know the skin at 3:06?

New upload!

Broooo you upload this right after I bought a tablet after playing mouse 💀💀💀

There are so many fucking factors to pen grips it's insane, intricate ones like whitecat's in particular, took me about a year to be able to confidently say I'm comfortable with it, even today I'm still finding out elements that make it better. I'll just note down some of the ones I really wish I knew when I got into it: time of the day/your brain state: this is by far the biggest one in my case, probably mostly happens to older people or people with brain issues. I, for once, can't grip my pen nearly as comfortably without my brain working at full capacity, this sucks for me because my brain only works at full capacity after I've been awake for like 8-12 hours, some days it just straight up doesn't work. I think what you mentioned in the video of you "forgetting your grip" wasn't you forgetting it, but your brain being low on juice and you not realizing it instead, which fucks with you and makes your grip feel bad. This can go on for days because it can damage your self esteem, and low self esteem can lead to days of bad mentality. for people with slim pens like the 472: I should've realized a lot sooner that it was the pen being really slim what caused me not to be able to maintain my grip, the 480 comes with a fat pen, so that shouldn't be a problem for most people with it, but for the 472 or similar consider putting some rubber or something to make it more grippable. tablet positioning: also plays a massive role, and I only really thought about it a couple of weeks ago, before swapping to a smaller area that I'm using now, my area was like 30% bigger, in order to compensate and be able to reach corners I had to move it farther to the left, leaving my arm in a weird angle, it was really comfortable but my aim was never great nor consistent, after switching to a smaller area I moved my tablet to the right by like 6cm, leaving my arm more parallel to the tablet, and holy shit it made my aim so much snappier and consistent, of course not as comfortable at first but definitely worth trying. All in all I wouldn't say all the time I spent optimizing my grip was a waste, I was learning to full alt, finger control, speed, and just reading in general. So even if you feel like your time is being completely wasted while you're struggling with your grip, don't be, because osu is a language, so even if you're playing suboptimally because of your grip don't let it get to you, you're still learning. At least that's what I told myself which helped me keep enjoying game through the struggles.

i just switched a week ago from mouse to tablet (Huion 420) and to be honest, my aim is insane now, streams feel just like autopilot and it did hurt the first 2 days (grip) but i got 'used' and actually is pretty confortable to play (i use my pen like im writing), you just need to test it and then judge wich one is better for you. I'm for sure keeping my tablet play style, i just crushed my top pp plays in less than a week (350pp+) so never give up. PS: i haven't played osu!standard in 2 or more years, just came back cuz i got a new tablet for drawing and i just realize that i got insanely good in just a couple days. Maybe i'm blessed, maybe it's normal, i'll just keep playing and pushing my limits trying to get inside the top 100 at least. wish me luck lol

i need a full change of my area and grip, i just need a full mental refresh

Yeah I’m so glad I never fully swapped to tablet, the main issues I have with mouse are inconsistent surface feel and mouse feet wearing out (until I swapped to ceramic feet). Other than that with time I’ve pretty much completely gotten used to dealing with mouse drift and don’t even notice it anymore.

As a mouse player I lately also struggle with finding a good grip however that sound, but sometimes mouse feels just awsome and on other days I'm going out of myself

advantage of going full area is you don't have to remember/document your tablet area.

I used to take photos of my grip because I struggled to always get the same feel, but even using pictures, I struggle to get that same comfortable feeling

pen grip is so hard to figure out that i thought of switching to a steering wheel

I immediately switched to tablet once I knew I was going to give this game a serious try, and in my experience I did not have a hard time adapting to it. It might be because I'm a new player and never really got to play with the mouse (aside from 3 years ago for a few hours) so I didn't have to adapt to a new style of play. I even switched from dragging to hover and it took me about two days to get comfortable with. Maybe its still too early for me to realise the problems that might come along the way, but so far I don't have many complaints aside from sometimes my grip hurts my hand after awhile or it starts slipping. I think all in all tablet is still better than mouse, you just have to start using it as early as possible like I did.

how do u feel about the bubble man aim thing on twitter

I'm probably the only one playing osu with mouse like this but i developed a habit where i would play "well" when my hand is sweating profusely from moving the mouse and making the mousepad moist to reduce drag since my mousepad is rough when dry. Problem is, when you have a sweaty grip the mouse is going to inevitably slip so i had to wipe both my mouse and hand while playing (thanks pause feature). Worse, after a toilet break the mousepad would've gone dry and i wouldn't be able to play as well as before. Mouse drift does really suck on long maps especially with long and "fast" jump sections since being comfortable just don't work when your mouse is slowly drifting to the edge of the mousepad. My last issues with mouse is probably accidentally using the buttons and either getting a miss for tapping early or a 50 but of course i have to have it enabled to at least be able to play slow parts (slow sliders) with mouse only in emergencies where i need to scratch my face or check my phone for important notifs.

I haven't changed how I grip my mouse since I touched one the first time for me it's pretty easy to find a good place to rest the wrist too

I've been playing osu! since mid-2018 and I started using tablet a few weeks after starting, because my friend gifted me his old one. I didn't know any better - and so I changed. Now, at ~4.000 rank I'm frustrated that I changed back then, because holding a pen (no matter the grip) has always been uncomfortable for me. I don't know what it is, but I think something is wrong with my hands since I can't even straighten my fingers properly. Mouse is so much more comfortable for me to hold. I would like to switch, but I'm not sure if it's worth it because I know it will take a long time.

Thanks to bring me that good old "oh shi- i forget my grip" fear back :)

i had issues with pen slip due to sweaty hands for a long time, saw that rubber bands work, tied a few to as the rubber and one more to tie my hand to the pen. never felt better, been using for the entire of 2021,same grip, same spot, same sens.

The only thing that bothers me with tablet is the scratchy feeling you sometimes get when dragging across the surface. Tried hovering but I can't consistently move my pen at the right distance and sometimes move the pen away too far from the surface. Any idea how to fix the scratchy feels? Otherwise mouse is just superior for me then..

Ekoro getting some love lfg. But yeah I decided to use tablet recently as it is also in line for practicing how to write with my right hand

can we just appreciate the jubilife city music at the end

The thing that I find the most annoying about tablet is how inconsistent the friction between the nib and tablet can be. You can be playing well with strong friction then mid way through a song it can become buttery smooth for no reason out of nowhere. Annoying how the same nib can feel wildly different 30 seconds apart.

I know this is off topic but. When I started osu! I didn't know anything about the game and ruined my first account, so I made a new one and started playing on there after like a few hours on the old one, can I get banned because I have 2 accounts even though the first one is inactive and only did the tutorial?

disadvantage i found the best tablet grip, stuck with it then got carpel tunnel

my hand sweats a lot thats why i use pen and somehow done sweat as much there’s many factors that i dont use mouse but that’s one of them as for pen grip and area finding i started with my personal pen grip being very tight and very small area and then im probably very lucky but when i decided to try larger area i ended up changing my grip into something lighter which is perfectly for me and the area kinda just i use skin with play area and try if when i goes as far as i can from comfortable zone is in the border of play area my problem for improving is tapping and its just i physically cant tap fast rn ;w; still grinding

I'm a lefty. I started out playing mouse with my right hand and tapping with my left. After about 6 months, I switched to tablet. It was really weird, not just learning how to use the tablet, but also learning how to tap with my right hand. I just stuck with it, and my tapping speed and stamina are leaps and bounds better than they ever were when I played mouse. I was way worse with tablet for a few days, but after that, I shot off. Tablet isn't going to magically make you better, but tablet definitely fits for me.

This hits home because I just came back from a vacation and I have and cramps even when playing easy maps because of the grip. Touching the subject, how do you derust optimally? I personally play maps half star from my peak but meaby there's a better way. My derusting problem is that, because I hover, when I come back playing I start over aiming a lot and so I play with a bigger area every time lol. From 3 derusting sessions i upped it from 75 to 90 lmaoo.

i use my normal pen grip. at first it actually was really uncomfortable and it did hurt (not terribly) but i kept with it and now its not even slightly painful

I was just having a problem with my grip, what a coincidence.

I found the perfect grip before I had to go away for 1 week. When I came back I spent the entire day trying to remember that grip and to this day I still can't

Great video as always. Improved 1M ranks and 95+ acc after your rehabilitation video and pack. What is the BG music at 2:52? :D Thank you!

forgetting your grip is like forgetting your shot form in basketball

I was asking myself if this thing was only happening to me and it seems that this is the perfect video to comment this question on: I have a chair with wheels, and I also move my tablet quite often because my desk is too small to have my keyboard + mouse + tablet in the same horizontal line. Therefore I feel like I keep losing my muscle memory because everything is placed different almost every time. Does this happen to anyone else ? If yes, did you find way to fix this ?

Where has he seen than Cookiezi has used full area one day ??

funny how i found a tablet area and got used to the tablet in like 20 minutes, now im struggling with grip lmao

something such as an absolute position mouse will be really popular.