This explanation would make sense of why he didn't hear the "man" coming up behind them. I wonder if this being could have intentionally saved Frank, though? As in, maybe it was keeping an eye on her and interrupted to stop her from doing something sinister?
@@TK-ux5duMaybe he was more there to enforce the 'law' and stop the process that he was going through as Frank had successfully decoded what was happening by mentioning the solstice.
@ronrickards5733 I didn't think of that, but yes, that does seem even more likely and fits with why she would be so angry at him mentioning the solstice.
Jo, your vibe is unreal. You are so otherworldly and intelligent. I loved the episode. Love hearing you interact with your guests. 🤍 from Nebraska, USA
An entire 60 years of not believing such things! Then quite suddenly for reasons I don't know I did a 180. I know think not only could it be true but I suddenly believe. I'm now unfortunately confused as can be ..
Frank shouldn’t feel bad about not recalling the details. He was under an enchantment spell drawn in by her green eyes. The black dog like thing in the water was probably the motor bike guy who was a shapeshifter. I feel Frank broke the spell when he raised the subject of the summer solstice and that’s why she got angry. Frank probably got out of a tricky dangerous situation. It would be good for Frank to find a professional regression therapist to see if he can uncover more details. Thank you for sharing this unique and rare experience. I enjoy this channel!
Thank you for sharing your intriguing experience. Thought provoking. You might have had a lucky escape. Nicola, water fairy? Just remembered the poor lady who went missing by a river last year.
Greetings from Scotland.. On this night of all nights, the 25th night of the first month, Burns Night, I can't help but feel this story reminds me of Tam O'Shanter. Tam narrowly escapes that witch, a beauty, but a dark witch with ill intent. Cross the bridge and know your boundary
I know one needs to be careful around rivers. Many stories about river beings that will drag people down if they get too close to the water's edge, like kelpies who can shape shift.
So many people here in Cornwall and also Devon (especially Dartmoor) have had nature spirit encounters in one form or another, but most don't want to talk about them in public. I have heard many over the years directly from the experiencer.
Excellent as always, Jo. You seem to know the exact questions to ask to bring forth more insight. My husband fishes a local river with a local legend attached. The ancients worshipped a deity that lived in the river and gave a human sacrifice every few years. Now no one worships that goddess but she still takes her blood sacrifices and every seven years a human life will be lost. Recently a young man went missing while fishing and was found drowned in there. I wondered about it when i saw the news Btw i heard it happened close to a bridge and the river spirit has also something to do with a nearby well.
Goodness that’s very disturbing. I guess we have no idea about these potentially lesser known cycles of nature. Very interesting. Are you able to divulge the location of the river? Completely understand if not! Thank you.
What an eerie anecdote this is, and one of my faves so far on this channel. Btw, there's been a spate of mature women in the UK ending up deceased in rivers. Nicola Bulley was one example. I wonder what really happens to these unfortunate souls :(
I'm looking at the place on Google Maps and it looks frankly sinister in the photos! I don't suppose it would in nice summer sunshine though. A good story indeed. It's so bizarre to imagine that in the middle of the thickly populated, built-up South East, on the very fringes of London, there could be encounters with the paranormal in broad daylight.
After listening to this, I did aome searches & found there are a few fairy stories where black dogs feature, either has a benevolent protector or as aomething to be feared!
stories about "spirits" near water are world wide.....mammy watter in West Africa, Ipupiara in South America,mermaids and kelpies and finfolk around the British coast, and many more. I reckon he spoiled it by saying "solstice". I'd love to know more if he does get regressed.
Maybe the action of falling out the tree,he fell through a portal and could suddenly see them, ,I thought at first she was swimming but she wasn’t ? The dog was. she sounds like a mermaid /some sort of E.T ? the Thames is tidal - and he sounds like a shapeshifter of some sort ,deffo her protecter ,unless she was a ghost x but wow ,Thankyou x
I used to have my little boat moored close by and enjoyed exploring the area where Caesar crossed at Corway Stakes. It's a really interesting area. Fascinating story, thanks to both of you.
It's an interesting area with a lot of history. I had read that up until Victorian times you could still see the remains of the stakes that the ancient Britons had pushed into the river bed (at Corway Stakes) in an attempt to stop the Romans crossing. Alas, I couldn't see them. Walton Church is worth a visit. It boasts a replica of an old "scold's bridle". The original was stolen sometime in the last century. Sadly, no fairy sighting, but I live in hope...@@themodernfairysightingspod8421
Hi Jo very interesting piece as usual 👍 Encounters with the Faye can be very tricky indeed. Having listened to Frank's fascinating account, it seems to me that rather than Frank stepping into an enchanted realm, the enchanted realm stepped into him. With alot of these type of encounters the participants state of mind, Outlook on life, memories, desires etc all get mixed up with a powerful sentient intelligence ie the Faye ? So in Frank's sort of waking dream it was not surprising that he met a girl because that is why he and his friend wanted to meet up there for in the first place ? Although she was something other. So alot of Frank's thoughts and anticipation for that day were sort of hi jacked into a waking dream/enchantment and made into a staged show for some reason only the Faye would know ?
thank you! That's a really interesting point that what he desired that day manifested into the experience via the Fae. I think there's something about the water too. there seems to be enchantment abound when water is involved. Thanks for your insights here.
Thank you,really interesting; in some languages a water sprite/ fairy is called a VODNIK ( vod- voda=water + nik pronounced ' nick'), someone who drowns people ( i.e. young maidens) and captures their souls,see the composer Antonin Dvorak's symphonic poem based on the folklore...
You could say Frank didn't hear the motorbike guy because he was concentrating so much on the girl, but he said by that point the conversation was wearing thin and from the description of the rough path he would have heard the guy approach anyway, so...interesting. Such a creepy story.
I live in Cheshire and about 30 min bus ride into Manchester. The canals that run through the city centre are a hot spot for young men found dead in and around those canals. It has been going on for decades now and some people like Thomas Sheridan suspect a serial killer called the canal pusher. It is a mystery despite there being many cameras around that area, security and police have never found an actual incident happening. Something is going on because in other countries where they have canals running through a city, and of comparative area, the Manchester canals have significantly higher number of dead men showing up. The guy from 411 missing channel had a look at this and he couldn't come to any natural causes.
I enjoyed hearing the story of Frank's experience in Walton-on-Thames. I'm sure I will ponder it for a very long time. By the way, are you at all familiar with Jacques Vallee?... Hmm. that was an awkward rhyme. Oh well, in any case, it couldn't be helped. Thank you.
I had a feeling you might. In retrospect, my question feels a little silly. When I began watching his interviews, I immediately thought of your podcast. An audio version of 'Passport to Magonia' popped up on my feed yesterday. Fate must be telling me to listen to it. Thank you again, Jo. I hope you have a nice evening. @@themodernfairysightingspod8421
Does anyone know about the 'angel of the Thames?' I saw footage from a TV production comp & presenter filming by the Thanes & an very large Angel shaped being of light glides down the river. The presenter is blown away. The TV production wiped the footage from the internet _ refused to release it & the presenter never spoke of it again which makes it all the stranger.
@@themodernfairysightingspod8421If you do a Google search you can find websites discussing the Thames Angel, it's been sighted since the 16'00 & in modern times. There's a clip of the TV presenter reacting to seeing it, although you can't find the full footage anymore, it had floated around the internet years ago. I guess people didn't know how to save vids then.
@@damienvantassel7686Thanks, this is a short clip after the event. In the original the presnter is going through his intro when when a large misty, white angel shaped energy glides along the river. There are quite a few websites talking about 'The Angel of the Thames' apparently there have been sightings dating back to the 1600s!
It's likely they work together to rob people. She wasn't afraid to walk with you because she knew the big guy was just up ahead, hidden off to the side with his bike. He probably rolled/walked his bike toward you both and they were going to ride away after the robbery. She called it off and spared you. There was likely a third person you were unaware of that was hanging back with the dog. I love folklore and I believe in most things, but this was quite possibly more frightening - humans.
30.31 - there is ALWAYS a book involved! The NDE channels are advert channels for books to the extent you might think it all untrue, if cynical. I think this chap has an interesting way of telling a kind of tale that is the gift of tale-tellers, ie, to make us so enthralled we learn a lesson, mind you his moral is a trifle obscure. Perhaps there was not one and he has turned something normal to us into something mystical for him; a misty-eyed fantasist. Nonetheless to me a great happening - not a story though but a self-obsessed happening from those glorious times of life as a youngster that persists into our life forever that we are alive. I have a few tales like this myself!
Thankyou. This is very interesting, and it correlates quite well with the Missing 411's many disappearances near water. I feel that there may be some time slippage during this event, and that the environment this encounter took place in was tightly controlled, with the gloomy weather and absence of other people and vehicles. Your guest's change in thinking could have been prompted by 'mind speak'...a phenomena where thoughts appear in your head, but that aren't your own, yet frequently sound like your usual inner voice. The loud splash could have been the 'dog' entering the water...was this dog a 'Dogman'?...who was not meant to have been seen by the teenager who previously had been hidden in a tree? Scenes are set by scanning the area beforehand to ensure there are no stray witnesses...the players in this drama can be forgiven for not looking for people in trees 😉. The attractive woman drew your guest away from the water, charming him until the arrival of the man in black, when the mood changed. Her behaviour changed, because she wanted your guest to leave the area, and not look back. The bright flash of light can affect the visual cortex, and prompt time loss for the witness. I think the memory of this event stays with him, because of its strangeness, and possibly because there are still gaps in his memory.
There have been recent events that could shed light on young men in particular going missing in or near water. There appears to be criminal gangs who are spiking drinks of targeted individuals in bars, with the aim of robbing them when they become incoherent. The accounts of people having survived the 'tampering' with drinks are quite awful, with pain, visual distortion, dizziness, nausea, sweating and they report not being able to recognise their environment. In Austin, Texas there have been arrests relating to drownings due to this, and victims have been linked to 2 bars in particular. I strongly suspect that this activity has been linked to dozens of water deaths in Manchester in particular...time will tell?
That’s truly awful. And yes spiking incidences are rife. Young people in particular are very at risk. Dreadful and extremely frightening to think of the risks these days 😖
Thank you for your insightful comments. Yes he had thought the splash was the dog entering the water. Can you explain further what you mean about him being in the tree though? And about setting the scene and the bright flash of light? I agree the lack of cars (which was notably strange) as well as his real sense that she was otherworldly is important. I feel we need to listen to the experiencer when they state their ‘knowingness’. It strikes deep.
@@themodernfairysightingspod8421 It is terrible, isn't it? Equally sad is the police's poor handling of the issue 😞. Have you watched any of the recent Missing 411s Jo? Missing truckers, and amnesia...truly strange. 🤔
@@themodernfairysightingspod8421 Yes, I agree that Frank had a genuinely strange experience, but I wonder if he stumbled upon some kind of 'operation' that was secretive, and in an environment that the people/beings concerned thought they had 'under control'. If they had surveyed the area before commencing, they may have been unaware of Frank's presence, because they missed him in the tree. I contend that cryptids (Bigfoot, Dogman, Mothman etc.) are charged with the responsibility of securing certain 'areas of interest '... frightening people away from an area of research for example, or from an area that is temporarily a risk to their health and so on. Witnessing a 'black op' may be one of the causal factors in the Missing 411 IMHO... it's just a thought. So, I'm thinking Frank was at risk in the same way? The flash of light is possibly the same as was used in the 'Men in Black' films...not fiction, but a real possibility. Military science is so much more advanced than we can know? 🤔 Infrasound has the capacity to induce feelings of fear and dread, as can electromagnetic frequencies. I believe that the paranormal splits into 2 categories...truly otherworldly phenomena, and very clever smoke and mirrors trickery, aided by 'secret science'. An example would be an invention by Woody Norris of 'directed sound waves' where one person is targeted with a sound that nobody else can hear, even if they're stood next to the 'victim'. How unnerving would it be to hear something sinister, that nobody else in the room can? I'm a mine of information 😎...but the platform we're on often makes my comments disappear, you know 🤫 As a last point, I have seen some amazing contact lenses that can have anything you want printed into them...humans can have cat's eyes, reptilians, black eyes, bright/glowing colours, including green.
I'm sure it's well meaning, but I wish you didn't give 'trigger warnings'. If you think it's necessary, why not just say 'this episode contains....'. People will decided for themselves if they want to listen to it. Yeah, it triggers me 😄
