Ottoman-Portuguese War for the Indian Ocean - DOCUMENTARY 

Make a video on 39 minutes war!!

Please make a video on the Assyrian Empire

I really enjoyed the expression of the events and the animations. Thank you for your job.

I would like a video about Mongol invasion of Java Edit :I hope you read my comment 😀

Can you make a video about Jomsvikings?

To be fair, if we are talking about the "known world", then I'd say the phoenician wars were also just that, it's just that known world to them was allot smaller

@@abisrizvi2621 Are you talking about the punic wars? If so, it didn't really seem proxy, right?

@@juandelacruz4679 it was. The carthaginians supported carthago-phoencian setteled colonists against the Greeks in Sicily and other islands.

@@hia5235 they didn't neither did the Ottomans scored a victory it is a stalemate.

@@hia5235 Neither Portugal nor Ottomans were managed to knock out their rivals sphere of influence in the asia, so it was a stelamate.

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Next video is actually: Race to the Fountain of Youth

Someone made that joke in the last video.

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@Mr Seboss And Caesar was that RTS player who trows quick walls at random locations.

It’s also the campaign for the Portuguese in Aoe2

Your mind is changed. I win!

Wololo

but piri reis believes its more assassins creed revelations :)

well... that is debatable, because the discover of the amazonas was the spaniard Ferdando de Orellana,, the discover of florida was Ponce de Leon, the discover of the mississippi river was Hernando de Soto and the discover of the whole pacific ocean was the spaniard Vasco Nuñez De Balboa... and Portugal is not the first global power... because africa was a "colony" of many empires like the persian, roman, or ottoman. The real first global empire was the spanish!!,, first to build churches, universities, banks and modern hospitals inside of the american continent, and first to build those things in the far east (philippines)... and Was the creator of the first international currency (the spanish dollar) , your portuguese currency was so irrelevant. In this moment Madrid is richer than Lisboa and the Spanish language is more famous and important than the portuguese, and your Cristiano Ronaldo is famous around the world thanks to the Spanish league, the opposite would have been if he had stayed in lisboa.

@@xavierrealmadrid7420 okay dude, you don't need to shit on the others to make yourself feel better... So annoying

@@xavierrealmadrid7420 It’s not debatable, it’s a fact. The guy mentioned “the first global power” and Portugal was indeed the first global super power. The Portuguese had territories all around the globe long before Léon y Castilla did. And if the Portuguese are so bad why are you trying to prove that you’re better on a RU-vid video when no one even asked? Haha, Aljubarrota sempre! 1385 !

@@LexicoDislexico BRAVO 👏👏👏👏👏👏

@@xavierrealmadrid7420 Spain built modern hospitals? When my friend played basketball in Spain he got sick badly enough to be hospitalized .He joked about the chickens that ran thru it. Modern indeed

É que é mesmo isso Só falam na batalha de aljubarrota

@Fuck RU-vid they don´t

lndeed! We are barely thought anything compared to this, only about our victories its increadibly satisfying to learn about the full picture and what really happened. Thank you a lot for this increadible documentary

You underestimate your people! Portugal alliance with England did give them momentum on sea fares, all humans in general contributed to our advances. Although, trade as a source of an income were the main Portugal interest in sea voyages! It was indeed a turn in events for so many nations to follow scheme. Spain, Dutch and England did the same! Be proud and teach others about your own!

Yes, even in Turkey they don't say much about Indian Sea conflict.

The penguin jannisaries are deadly

@@memoli1524 Oh well, they always stood their ground because they knew that turning their backs would make them easy targets against the white background, that's why.

@@memoli1524 it will be penguin jannisaries vs. Conquistador seals then!!!! :P

@@memoli1524 NÖÖT NÖÖT YE SULTAN!

LOL that was my first idea too

Normal ingilizceye aldın demi otomatik oluştura basmadin

As a Malay I can confirm the translation for Jawi is accurate

@@Stryder_483 Betawian trubes in the only Malay race in Java island

That's true, but what is often overlooked is that sometimes talented generals lead rebellions. If someone is less loyal, then them being talented may endanger the country by making it more likely that the talented general may seek to gain power.

Unless it's about rome lol

@@greywolf7577 Well quality needs to be maintained. Like maintaining a good sword. If you treat your best employee like shit despite their talents and achievements then don't be shocked if they suddenly become a nuisance or move to a rival company with their experience and expertise along with them.

This is old, but yeah as another guy said talented generals lead rebellions. You need to be talented and loyal at the same time. If there's a risk of someone being disloyal, that's more dangerous than an unskilled general, as now there is risk both from the inside and the outside (he changes sides).

Mamluk Australia Intensifies...

@@freespiritedd Or Majapahitan California...

struggle was real for me as well but when you boot up that game, kiss goodbye to like 3 months and 1000 hours

BASED

See Wiki for São João Baptista (galleon) and Conquest of Tunis (1535). I wonder how many Brazilian football fans know the origin of their Botafogo football club... ;^)

400 hundred cannons, 4 or 5 floors...

They sank to the bottom of the sea in 1538

It's crazy that people watch pirate movies and see those muiltileveled ships layered with canons and have no idea it was that small forgotten country that designed them PORTUGAL

amazing what technology does

@@TheMrgoodmanners yea it’s crazy to think that 1 warship right now could have ended every fleet from those ages I can’t imagine in 100 years what new warships and bombs we will have

Catherine the Great of Russia contracted a small group of Portuguese sailors to help her build her Navy.

man wtf ottoman have so many enemies than portugal not only in land but in sea too

@@think9747 no man you are wrong, Portugal was literally at war with everyone for the Spice Trade; Spain, England, Morrocco, Turkey, India, South Asia, Netherlands, Venice, Belgium, Even South African nations, many more.

Thanks

They royally fucked us either way Might as well have annexed us and rather than a empire in shambles we'd have a united south america and the power to repel the perfidious anglo inb4 muh 1588 Fleets sink, they lost by the whims of the wind and the sea not because of the crown

BS Ricardo. The political centre of Habsburg was Spain and Philip II was the supreme ruler. Is time we Portuguese just accept we were dominated by Spain during 60 year (1580-1640). We don´t need to spice it up things

@@VideoDepot999 No it was not "Spain", it was the Crown of Castile, the primary title of the Habsburg monarch and the junior partner of the Union. It is time we all stop using 21st century concepts of nationality in a 16th century context. The people from the Crown of Aragón were not considered the same people as those from the Crown of Castile, they didn't abide the same laws and had different administrations. There was never a Spanish nationality or a Spain country until the Decrees of Nueva Planta in 1716, which merged the two crowns into a single country: Spain. The Habsburg monarch also did NOT rule in absolutist fashion. It was a parliamentary Monarchy and its constituent crowns we governed by proxy by vice-roys, including the Crown of Portugal, which never ceased to exist.

Tem sempre de repetir a mesma merda a TODOS

@adam all early access for member

That's a great title for a video game

Was the small letter e intended

You mean a, Caliphate vs empire

@@napolien1310 one is a.more superior one

Namek.... Like.... Salt??? (DAAAAMN that's my native language)

@@abisrizvi2621 No he meant planet Namek

@@hoozaifaansari900 Dbz reference aye......NICE.

Please??

I dont know if they've covered this but Great mehmet the II seige of constantinople

Um abraço desde Portugal 🙏

Brilliant. Funny image.

Hahaha :D As a Turk i still can't understand why you guys call that furniture "ottoman" out of all other names you could've given it xd

@@doraorak probably some Turkish guy put his feet on a stool 500 years ago a European seen him relaxing and the rest is history

@@doraorak The same reason we refer to some American birds as "Turkeys". We like to sometimes name things after the name of countries where we have seen similar things.

@Matro25 Okay, fine. But the word "Turk" has been around for several centuries. I still think that the turkey was named because it looked similar to a bird that lived near the Turks.

Grande abraço de Portugal.

E vocês no nosso! 🇵🇹

If Salazar would've been a bit more amicable in his dealings with India then perhaps things would've ended a bit more smoothly like Macau but unfortunately things had to happen the way did .

@@porothashawarma2339 In our opinion, things should never ended. Instead of Goa ending up like Macão - peacefully semi-merging with China, Goa could exist as French Guiana - an integral part of France

@@aldrintoscano that my friend is a pipe dream , who has power is the one who ultimately controls the land . Portugal had it 500 years ago , now they do not and so they do not have the land either . It was never their’s to begin with . This area is one of the most prized to begin with geographically , I do not see how comparing it to some poor corner of South America warrants a justification.

well, if there has been a lengthy war to become independant, perhaps there had been an annexaxion after all...

That just theoretical Francisco. If Portugal was independent in that period (1580-1640) it would have its own king, not a spanish king.

@@VideoDepot999 that's not how it works. Having the same head of state does not make 2 nations become one. Canada, Australia and England share the same head of state, are they the same nation? Of course not. One thing to point out that is often overlooked is that Portugal was so independent firm the other kingdoms in the union that they even had different diplomatic status. For instance in the 80s war Portugal remained neutral with the Netherlands well into the union, even trading with the Netherlands while Castille was at war with them. Hardly makes sense that one nation is both at war and openly trading with another nation

@@VideoDepot999 Philip the 2nd of Spain was more Portuguese than Spanish. He was the son of Charles V Holy Roman Emperor and Isabel daughter of Manuel the 1st of Portugal. Philip the 2nd was also born not in Spain but in Flanders. So I think that Portugal had always Portuguese Kings

@@manuellopes6913 That "union" as you call started with the invasion of Portugal by Phillip II order in 1580 and the Portuguese defeat in the battle of Alcantara. The technical term for that is "conquest". Yes the Portugal had great autonomy but just to avoid rebellions. But it had to join some spanish wars and the best example is the atempt to invade England in 1588 and as you know England was traditionally a Portuguese ally. The Dutch attacked Portugal oversees considering we are a territory ruled by Spain.

I did see some guns of that time and they where superior technology compared to the ottomans example metal of superior quality and cannons that fire and reload faster

@@heldercardoso8552 I have always suspected a somewhat superior technology...it is the only thing that helps to explain the results of these contests. However, as I believe Stalin explained, numbers have their own quality. The Ottomans NEVER were able to effectively manage their numerical superiority.

Portugal has been established in Indian Ocean longer than Ottomans. Ottomans recently acquired ports in Indian ocean, and their main navy was in Mediterranean fighting (and winning) against catholic alliances between Spain, Venice, Genoa, Papal state and so on. Imagine Ottomans building forts on Indian coasts and Portugal trying to take them, that would have been an impossible task.

turks knew shit about naval battles

@@Agisilaos746 Yes, they lost most naval battles. Greek? Well, you should know. Unfortunately, most Western students no longer study actual history.

their reach was halted by a small iberian kingdom.

@@ggkphilosophy a small Iberian kingdom that had a head start in the Indian Ocean, made tons of wealth through colonizing and enslaving people and then you have the factor that portugal's enemies at the time were basically Morocco and Ottomans, while the ottomans were up against Spain, Portugal, Safavids, Austria, Poland-Lithuania and every major European country.. So,, it's logical to lose more, but they achieved other successes though

I would say, the Ottoman Empire was mostly European Kingdom, too.

@@ismailseyam3244 Westerners say Napoleon was hard to beat cause it took 7 coalitions while calling the Ottomans weak, when in reality almost every war against the Ottomans till the mid 18th century was a coalition war, with a dozen german states, Poland Lithuania, Austria, Hungary, Russia all banding together to fight the Turks...... What's even more amazing is that, despite all of this, The Ottomans outlived all their traditional rivals - the Safavids Shahs, the Russian Tsars, the Habsburgs Emperors, The Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth, The Portuguese Monarchy.......... pretty impressive damn

@@nayeemhaider8367 That is a bad comparison given that most ottoman wars also included ottoman coalitions Against the Muscovites and Poland-Lithuania they used their Crimean Tatar allies Against Portugal their indian and african allies Against the Habsburg France as their traditional european ally And against Spain the Barbary Coast as their allies

Yes, please.

@Salamander Mike It's a quote from the novel Dune.

Malacca empire fall by only 1000 portugese soldiers sad

There's no aceh in Malacca

I second that request

@*Angelscor* Yes thanks. Great your insight on Piri Reis. I have a curiosity / or fascination for him. And about Lepanto, yes. The Ottomans have indeed been defeated on the larger majority of occasions (or detained) in thse wars, but for the reasons I am referring to, and you, too, pointing out, and in the context I am referring to (the truth of their immense military power in the world is no way at stake, or their large achievements as K&G put well), but with some deficiencies, and in the context that we know, and that several historians point out. They even had to end up holding Yemen and the Gulf of Adem, because in the rest of the Indian Ocean, the Portuguese armadas still reigned (with the effort and long gradual weakness of cost for the Portuguese), resorting to Corso activity, the last Ottoman great resource (with all its power, problems, and many fronts). In fact, the few large military expeditions at the beginning (against Diu in India, for example) sought, and with intelligence, to avoid any Portuguese naval interception, and evacuated the siege, to any news of their proximity. The exceptions were the attacks in the Persian Gulf, because the local coast fleets were lighter (But the presence of a galleon like St. John was enough to create chaos in the Ottoman side, as the presence of more ocean-going shpis, but mostly in open sea). And there, too, they experienced the incapacity of these attacks and a greater disaster. It looks like an incredible "feat" of Portugal (and it even is), but using rationality, this has context and an explanation. In the 17th century Portugal is much more debilitated in naval terms, much more, the long sieges no longer get maritime assistance in time (mostly), and for example, in the case of the Strait of Hormuz, it was the Safavids with the English (mostly Portuguese allies, this was an exception) to take, after a long siege (1622), as Barhain; and the Omanites , more easily (Portuguese retreat and abandon) in 1650s from Oman. It's not even more the Ottoman Empire, which has its own problems.

Any way, these are comments (constructive, I hope), and subject to criticism. I only have compliments for Kings & Generals, I think this channel - these (so many) videos, are incredible. Huge quality, in all aspects. Amazing doc. this one also.I am super grateful as a viewer. It is not being politically correct, it is having gratitude. And I've seen many more in recent times. About this, TV documentaries (rare), other than books (about the Ottomans), do not show us all the court and recources implications and its influence in military campaigns, like K&G do.

That's a 100% true, greetings from Portugal

Said the man from country which was conquered and ruled by Ottomans for 400 years

Of course , Greeks and Portuguese we might have the smallest ding dongs in Europe but we do it way better .

@@misterpikes7600 what

@@eagleboy8417 you dident Conqer ,anything ,just a dying ghost ,the Byzantines just finish the reconquest of mainland from Frank's ,and still facing Albanian raid tribes in the West ,Serbs and Bulgarians ,in the North ,And Venician in several places ,just about the Time ,Zeus plan?Ottomans under the leadership of Evrenos Pasha from a A Famous Greek Family of MAsia converted to Islam ,drops the Agean and Conqer slowly all Balcans,That gave to the Greeks the think they dident have before TIME the abandoned the cities and build ,villages in the mountain s ,making no tot less that 200 conflicts against the Ottomans from 1461 to 1821 when first ..became independent in all Ottoman empire ,Google battles of Greek war of independence ,Or videos on RU-vid with title Greek Turkish naval battles or ,the one with title Greek pirates and you will enjoy it ,Happy New year now

Love from Goa. Somos Portuguese ❤️

@@aldrintoscano greets from Portugal! You know our current Prime Minister is descendent of people from Goa?

I'm gonna have to say, this videos were quite biased in favor of the ottomans. The video ends with "the ottomans remained the dominant trading power in the Indian ocean" that was not the case, they were restricted to the read sea and pirating the north-eastern coast of Africa, Portugal was the dominant power hence why more ottoman-portuguese wars ensued.

I would too, but I just finished one!

Play historically, rival Spain and try to conquer most Centers of Trade in Africa and the Indian ocean. Don't just ally Spain and colonise America the whole game, that's the noob and boring way to play Portugal. Dump those Expansion ideas and get some Maritime, Navy or Quality ideas.

@@FaithfulOfBrigantia no, colonizing op, get new world and India , win

@@endo4137 Noob, ahistorical and cringeworthy playstyle.

@@FaithfulOfBrigantia I have conquered Spain once or twice, don't feel like doing it again

resisted?? dude they won

Portuguese were early in Indian Ocean, there were already many Portuguese fortresses built when Ottomans conquered Egypt and acquired ports for Indian Ocean.

lol but later on, Portugese colonies died and defeated by Mughal empire

@@jennifermathew7691 the otomans too Every empire has its downfall

@@naze2659 i am talking about india, i don't give a shit about ottomons and other European empires

@@Luzitanium Your nation is weaker than mine

@@Luzitanium 👏👏👏👏👌🇵🇹❤

@@Luzitanium Como se o teu país não estivesse podre de esquerdistas moderninhos e doutrinadores... Isso é um problema do mundo meu amigo.

@@mateushigino3387 Infelizmente é verdade.

​@@rimlandrealist7679 If you could remain from spreading misinformation, I would appreciate it. Battles were indeed fought, but not in the way you're imagining it. You have to understand that the whole situation was more of an internal conflict than anything else. Portugal was divided between those who supported Philip, and the ones who didn't. For example, a lot of nobles and the most powerful House in Portugal, the House of Braganza, actually sided with Philip and were in favor of the Iberian Union. Some were not, which led to those conflicts. The person who wanted to contest the throne was not even supported by the Portuguese themselves. Either way, you really should find a dictionary and search the word "annex"/"annexation". A good example of this was the occupation of Austria during WW2. When it came to the Iberian Union, the following condition had to be met for Portugal to join the union. Courts of Tomar (1581) state the following: 1 - Respect all the liberties, privileges, uses, and traditions of the Portuguese Monarchy, maintaining Portugal's total sovereignty over its Kingdom and Empire; 2 - Always gather courts in Portugal and maintain all Portuguese laws; 3 - Both positions of Viceroy or Governor of Portugal should be held by Portuguese or members of the royal family; 4 - All of the foreseen positions for the Court and general administration of the Kingdom would always be filled by Portuguese; 5 - The Portuguese could also occupy public functions in Castile; 6 - Trade with India and Guinea could only be done by the Portuguese (respecting the Treaty of Tordesillas); 7 - City and village titles could not be granted to non-Portuguese; 8 - The language in all the official documents and acts would continue to be only in Portuguese; 9 - Every year, two hundred new houses would be created (wages that were delivered to the gentlemen from the age of twelve) and the Queen should always have Portuguese noble ladies as their nobles; 10 - The crown prince, D. Diogo, would be maintained and educated in Portugal; 11 - The Castilian garrisons would be withdrawn and the royal arms of Portugal would be preserved in the currency. So as you can see, it was not an annexation but a Union much like the United Kingdom. The first Philips did respect Portuguese autonomy and all the conditions above. But when Philip IV tried to actually ANNEX the Kingdom of Portugal and eradicate all of the Portuguese nobility, it led to the Restauration War which Portugal won.

@@rimlandrealist7679 "You are lecturing a POrtuguese about portuguese History?" I'm also Portuguese you dimwit. Besides, probably unlike you, I have a Master's in History that I took during my years studying at the University of Coimbra. I never said that the Union was something everyone wanted, the people certainly were not fond of it. But like I mentioned before, a lot of Portuguese nobles were in favor of the Union. Not to mention that Philip himself was of Portuguese descent. You were the one calling it an annexation, which is ridiculously wrong. If they annexed Portugal, they wouldn't feel the need to call it a Union and just absorb it into Castile like what happened to Galicia and Leon. Portugal had pretty much the same status as Aragon (if not more autonomous), which was still a separate Kingdom from Castile. People do tend to forget that Spain as we know it has only existed since the XVIII century after the War of Spanish Succession which conciliated everything in what today we know as 'Spain'. "Idiot" No need to get aggressive you smartass.

@@alexstudieshistory5823 stup pretending Portuguese, i know you're spanish kid

@@nativetube Claramente sou Espanhol.

Finally someone notice it!

The Portuguese empire persisted well into 1950s. They hold Diu, Goa, and other territories in India, as well as Malacca in South East Asia for 400 years. That would be considered a successful empire, I think. If only they had the sense to unite with Brazil and not treating that territory as second class in the empire, they might have become a great power.

Portugal did well but realistically they had a small military and population compared to a superpower like the Ottomans. The fact they did as well as they did is amazing, but really they could never have kept it going once their opponents caught up.

@@ongkhuongduy3498 Brazil was a treated as equal part of the kingdom in the later years "United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil and the Algarves"as it was called. When the Napoleonic France invaded Portugal the royal court moved to Brazil and lead to Brazil to experience a great progress and evolution. Brazil independence was inevitable sooner or latter it was going to happen.

@@Toniblast Portugal to me seems like a big what if type of country. A lot scenarios look plausible and yet when you put one and one together they all look ludicrous at the same time. Imagine a maritime world domination by a coutry with a small population surownded by bigger and stronger rivals. Crazy

@@Toniblast That is true, but one of the reasons for our independence was that the portuguese back in Europe wanted to revoke Brazil's status and divide it further in order to subjugate it again to Portugal.

What does it say?

@@shadmanhasan1931 The first one is in Malay written in Jawi script that says: Salam Saudara Jauh “Greetings long distance brothers” - and the second one is in Osmanlıca that says: Selam Arkadaşlarım “Greetings my fellow friends.”

@@MalayArcher Thank you! I have been searching for the speech bubble translation.Good to know you actually used Ottoman language in the video.

@@comradekenobi6908 yes Bro

InshaAllah our power will be back🇸🇴

@@salmahassan6998 sidaas ban rajaynaa 🤲

What is to tell? Portuguese bombarded and sacked all coast but failed to capture Mogadishu. A ottoman allied fleet repelled portuguese from red sea.

@@mbiga1978 are u portugese ?! its seems u burning inside

You think this channel belongs to some historians or someshit? They are bunch of film makers. Their medium being youtube or means being animation doesn't make them historians.

@@utouchmytralalalalala3899 no but they are funded by dem patreon $$$ and patrons don't have a say in your script nor do you need to please them with cool flashy stories extra sensetionalized to get a wider audience. This is why the history channel died. On youtube you can just tell history. You don't have to sell it. Military history visualized for example. Deadpan austrian delivery and yet it's fascinating because he actual reads the primary sources and doesn't quote a book written based on a book based on a book based on a primary source. That sort of stuff would never exist in big flashy cinematic history channel style stuff. Too much money going to the cinematics part of the documentary and not the actual damn content

@@Newidhan "no but they are funded by dem patreon $$$ and patrons don't have a say in your script nor do you need to please them with cool flashy stories extra sensetionalized to get a wider audience" Oh, that's very cute and naive of you fam.

@@utouchmytralalalalala3899 yes and I'd say they are also biased on many occasions, not exactly neutral when narrating a given historical event. I've seen many of their videos on the Ottoman empire and on many occasions they don't bother telling us about Ottoman sources and most everything is brought up from a European perspective. Even stuff that appear as if they are in the Ottoman perspective aren't exactly so and are just European perceptions of the Ottoman perspective.

Keep dreaming

Wow , muslim brothers

You shouldn't have invaded Spain.

@@Boxghost102 Nor Portugal.

It has changed,however Muslims wish to remain at eternal war with Non Muslims.

@Ahmet Sakızcı sometimes the truth does hurt.

@Ahmet Sakızcı what is Isis then.And this drama of erdogan wanting to re-establish the ottoman empire.These things are in your face,people aren't stupid

+1

@@savioblanc even the English. No colonial power would leave without being expelled.

@@naiad5043 well could have been like the handover of Macau to China, but at the time Portugal lived in a dictatorship and the Portuguese did developed a lot of Goa and today is the second most rich region of India

@@TheLocalLt true, some indians had supported the Japanese invasion and that's all. But there was still some kind of resistance starting from 1857. But I largely agree with you.

I want

2020..Turkey is very similar to the current policy

The Treaty of Tordesillas referred only to the lands in the American continent, in Asia it was the best for the themselves. The English were long time allies of Portugal, and their first possessions in Asia were grants they got from Portugal through royal marriages. All these others you mentioned were irrelevant mavericks who left no lasting mark.

🇹🇷♥️🇵🇹 :)

Força Portugal!!!

@Kingdom of Nubia Possibly both. Yes etimologicly "Hadım" is a loanword from Arabic xadm (servant) but in Turkish this word used for Eunuch. For servant, we are using an other loanword "hizmetkâr" from Perso-Arabic (hizmet is a loanword from Arabic "xidmat / serve" but -kâr is a Persian Suffix just like English -er ). If a word have an insulting or unpleasant meaning, traditionally main reaction of Turks is using loanwords instead of Turkish one (even today and this reaction sometimes really gonna nuts). In this example Turks trying to not using Turkic word "iğdiş" by using Arabic word for servant.

@Fuck RU-vid he is trying to say pronounciations are totaly diffrent (Iı =/ɯ/ - İi = /i/ diffrence is so important in Turkish ). But yes etimologycly both words are came from same loanword. Most of loanwords loose or change their original meaning in transfer process.

@@davrosdarlek7058 They didn't castrate them in the Ottoman palace tho. They specifically bought castrated slaves from Subsaharan warring tribes.

@@davrosdarlek7058 wait, Balkan eunuch? Can you show me a source for that? Castration was not practiced *in* the empire territory.

@@davrosdarlek7058 Wow I didnt know of that, I always known it was a Subsaharan tribal tradition which Ottomans just turned a blind eye. Tho I have to say that turning a blind eye/saying "meh, its their customs" is still different than officially allowing it.

It's a recurring theme in history that still happens today

If you do that, the best man will overtake you. It might be great now that we have faceless and impersonal corporations where talent and ability will mean you get to rise to the top without any consequences but for people on political courts, this often meant lethal consequences.

Kim kazanmış? Bana iki taraf da kazanmış gibi geldi de

@@thenoobmaster8393 Portekizliler

@ Tamam

Ottomans was so powerful. Superpower, like todays' United States.

Sultanate of Malacca, Aceh, and the other's history are interesting.

Boys played well

Portugal had better ships/navy

@@br3menPT In what way?

@@Thefutureis96 In every way....It was Portugal who started the age of discoveries...Portugal was a thalassocracy and is considered by several experts as one of the 3 former global navy power in History

@@Thefutureis96 bigger country = more expensive to develop. The secret was perhaps that Portugal initially didn't bother expanding inland a lot, rather they would build port cities to base their roaming fleets and control trade routes, this means it was less expensive to expand since their empire was more akin to Carthage and Phoenicia than to Rome and Spain.

True. But the simple fact that Suez was being raided by the Portuguese *from the south*, while Ottoman armies and fleets were occupied besieging places in their own neighbourhood like Rhodes or Malta is astonishing in itself.

@adam all by the help of God, he was running 8 times from us. No one can dominate Caucasian people, even as vassals we ruled persia and ottomans

Because that's exactly how we'll live in 2021 😄 Just kidding