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Snow probably feels the same way for how Emma treated her for that way last season. But of course what Emma did and said to her was for nothing Emma when it was really the author who made her do the bad thing against her will under the control of the pen from the beginning, as revealed when Snow arrested Isaac.
This was heartbreaking. Everybody trusted Rumple at some point or another or made deals with him and now they are been hard at Emma beacuse she is the Dark One? Thay ahould have so hard at Ruple in the previous ocasions
As the Dark One Rumple helped them (usually not freely but still) while Emma broke Henry's heart and erased their memories and kept playing the villain
That's different, she's his Mom. Emma was the first person he came to in the beginning. He's built up more trust with her than anyone else in the series
ugh! this entire scene was so heartbreaking! :( Henry and Emma's conversation...:( :( :( I LOVED the way Rumple was like "If the roles were reversed, would you trust me!?" FINALLY! And then Charming @ 2:12... whole clip is so sad lol
Advait Ramesh In other cases, yes. However it is shown that Emma doesn't have control of her true emotions and personality. Imagine your own mother, who you and her spent so much time together and trusted, tells your crush who loves you too, to break your heart. I would be devastated.
Seriously Henry? Gold changed? Oh you mean like how he tricked Hook later, so that Hook's death turned out to be all for nothing just so that Gold could once again become the Dark One.
Also, Hook was gonna die anyways, with or without Gold's involvement. RUMPLE DID NOT TAKE ANYTHING FROM HOOK AWAY. NOT HIS SACRIFICE OR BEING A HERO (mostly because Hook was NEVER a hero). A cut from excalibur can never be healed. Hook was legit a dead man walking. Gold just took advantage and i'm glad he's the dark one again. We clearly can't trust emma or hook or anyone else with that power. PARTICULARLY Zelena. Gold has spent 300 years as the dark one and what is the worst he has done, really? gotten snow and david together? made emma hero? worked tirelessly to get his son back after realizing his mistake? yes, he lied and cheated and manipulated many lives. regina killed an entire village, something rumple never did. zelena RAPED TWO MEN. hook, ON HIS FIRST NIGHT of knowing he was the dark one, literally brought EVERY SINGLE DARK ONE *EVER* to storybrooke. compared to all that, Gold was a saint as a dark one. if anyone can be trusted with that power, he can. all he really wanted was to relieve himself of being controlled against his will. dark one or not, *no one* deserves to be controlled like that. i mean, the guy was held in a cage by zelena and raped after losing his son. can you really blame him for wanting some freedom? and sorry, but hook hasn't really done much to redeem himself over the years either so he wasn't too much of a lost. he can't even muster up a sincere apology (prior to that crap show on s5) to belle for trying to kill her 3 times. he was literally like, 'whatever, sorry'. pfft.
@Sammy Pierce you mean at the end of season 5. Yes Rumple might have been wrong about that. Henry doesn't deserve to lose his mothers. But first all the mess that happened in season 5 was mostly entirely Emma's fault and that includes Hades going after Rumple's second child. Had she not forced them to go rescue an underserving man (Hook) they wouldn't have went to the Underworld. Had Emma told Rumple (and Henry should know too) that she had seen Neal and that he was in a better place, Rumple wouldn't have cast the spell that led to Hades learning about Belle's pregnancy. Then because of their new friend (because all of a suden all crimes are forgiven), Zelena put Belle under a sleeping curse (more precisely she took advantage of a very confused and scared pregnant woman), which means putting both her and the child in danger. Then the heroes works together to stop Rumple's evil plan to wake up innocent pregnant Belle. Rumple had so many reasons to want them dead at that point. They kept making his situation worse and kept getting in his way.
I want to bring up an interesting point on what Gold said. He asked if the situation was reversed would they trust him. Put simple no they wouldn't. However from what's been shown they would still use his help because he honors his deals. Like when he went to Neverland for them
+Erica Poitras not really. at this point Gold has changed. he is a hero and he did pull Excalibur from the stone. He just...for whatever reason...did a 180 back to being evil. Regina started trying to change in season 2 and by the end of season 3 was a tentative hero. And for a good part of season 2 Henry didn't fully trust Regina. He doesn't just take an "im sorry" as proof.
+Matthew White So true, and in season 3 ep.11 Rumple DID gave his life to save EVERYONE, no loopholes or tricks. I don't get how a lot of people forget something like that.
Evybeth M maybe it's because after that he took hooks heart and then tried to re write the story making everyone's life a living hell except for the villains just because you do something good doesn't mean every bad thing you did is erased
Exactly. No one even thought about Emma's character. I mean what caused Emma to become dark? There are only two ways for a true hero to become the Dark One: 1. To perform vengeance against the evil ones in the name of justice. 2. To save the beloved person (son, father, lover, brother. close friend, etc.) I am no true hero, but if I was in OUAT world and was given a cursed blade I would become the Dark One only following the first path. Emma, however, took the second.
Right and wrong. The darkness takes what was already there and twists it to evil. Like the ring of power. It’s not like Dark Ones don’t do bad things if they were previously good - the darkness makes them do bad things by convincing them it’s good. We even see this exact thing happen to Emma, when the darkness convinced her to kill Merida and her family had to talk her down.
@@Raiseflag_Surrender I don't want to become a dark one at all. I wouldn't get any foolish idea that magic would solve all my problems, because it won't. Just like Merlin said in the Disney classic. A true hero doesn't always need magic to save any day. Scrooge McDuck sad he didn't need them when facing hazards in Ducktales Home Sweet Homer. Snowing has the right stuff like Mr. McDuck does. This even makes them the real saviors, with or without magic. So I rather choose the path these two go through, along with other people like Red, Mulan, Lancelot, Phillip, Aladdin and Hercules. One can be a real true hero and warrior to defeat magic opponents.
@@Raiseflag_Surrender You call risking people's lives like Belle's & Merida's, or ripping a girl's heart out, or nearly damning everyone to hell by her own greed heroic? She almost got everyone killed.
They're right not to. Though The Charmings reveal that they both only don't trust the darkness, everyone else was right not to trust her for what she did to them, especially Merida. Like how she risked Belle's life, what she did to Henry and Violet and lied. Merida definitely was right not to trust her either because of what she did to her.
@@NickyHelp everything the Dark Swan did was for a good reason. The only thing she wanted was to be free of the Darness. Does it matter if the path she took to getting rid of it was unconventional????
@@kamarmason8077 You're such a fool and a liar. You call murdering a former pregnant woman, or torturing Merida and threatening hers or Belle's lives, or ripping Violet's heart out, or almost getting everyone else damned to hell good reasons? All this proves is that it does so matter for what she has done, you fool. Everyone else she knew, knew it was not saving and it does so matter for what she had done. Those backfire your lies. Like Snow said about her sin, "This was premeditated murder, Emma." Even Hook knew so that it is not saving and not good reasons. Like he said, "This is saving?" How could you do this to be?!" Even Regina and Henry knew so they were not after they confronted her for what she did to Violet and Henry, and she wasn't forgiven for that. Especially how she tries to justify her crime the same way Cora did after murdering Daniel. And everyone does not trust or forgave her fully for that afterwards as seen here. Again those, backfires all your lies and proves you wrong. Stop twisting truths. You'd say anything to defend a villain's deeds just because you blindly fancy them. You can't argue or lie your way out of those facts. So Give it up and get real. And bother answering with anymore of your mixed truths with lies, because I'm falling for it and because you are blocked out. So Goodbye. P.S. Controlling her darkness, does not excuse the evil deeds she committed.
@@kamarmason8077 hey kamar, I've had this whole talk with Nicky on one of my comments, and while they certainly take a few things out of context and can be kinda rude, I can tell you for sure, it does matter that it was unconventional. Imagine if Emma had managed to put the darkness in Zelena and then kill her, sure hook is saved and both him and Emma's darkness is destroyed, but do you think any of her loved ones would want to be around her ever again after she takes zelena's life? Emma had the best of intentions, followed by some pretty bad actions, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions", and that road starts up here, and it gets worse the farther you go
i guess this is how regina realises how emma felt when henry was heartbroken because of regina's doings in season 1 and 2. Regina is hurt now because emma made henry lose hope. Same with emma when she sees how sad henry was because regina was stubborn and evil previously.
"The Mom you know would not keep things from you?" That's not true Henry. The fool you knew does so keep things from you. Have you forgotten how she lied to you about your dad, Bae? Her real lover? That proves that what you said is not true.
I don't blame them at all during this scene for their anger, I wish they continued with it. Emma should try so harder than that, after literally screwing with everyone's time and not even giving a shit about her own son's hurt feelings just so she can keep all of them, especially Hook unaware!
1:04 Henry, if this is because of what she did to your girlfriend, even though I understand your anger, back then, it were desperate times, and desperate times require desperate means. And besides, a Dark One always honors a deal. So make a deal with her so that she won't be able to hurt you anymore. Why is it so difficult for people to understand that society and the things that compose it are tools that can be shaped and used the way you see fit ?
Oh, come on. Emma never would've CONSIDERED acting the way she did without the darkness, and you know that. She would've found a third way that didn't involve hurting anyone. It's lunacy to claim the darkness isn't affecting her.
@@LordofFullmetal Actually she would with or without the Darkness. She did it on her own without being controlled and chose it. Nothing was mentioned because of the darkness.
@@93King I'm glad the Charmings were not mentioned on the list because they don't count, because they were altered by the author and his writing, as revealed through a figurative expression when the couple arrested the bag of shit for his sins, including what he did to Lily for what he made the couple do.
Like I said to you last year Miss Swine. You’re the real monster and liar, not your parents (which Isaac was the real villain behind the drama). You did this by free will and because of you, they will nearly get damned to hell in the underworld because of your actions. You didn’t even save anybody, you just rebuilt a monster and put your blood family in danger and not bothering to think of the consequences for everyone else.
Henry is right about everything. Except Gold. Gold don’t change. Emma ripped Violets heart out and has done a great deal of pain to him. She wouldn’t even HOLD him when he was born!
Are you really going to bring the birth into this? Do you know what happens to women who give birth in prison (aka Emma)? They're not given the correct medical care. They're judged the whole time they're there. Some of them are shackled to their beds. And then at the end, they are FORCED to give up their child - for god knows how long. You don't get to bring the baby back to prison. They're told that they're losing their child forever; that the courts will NEVER give them custody, because they're scum and don't deserve to be parents. It's VERY common for mothers who give birth in prison to avoid looking at or touching their baby - because they know they will be forced to let it go, and they're trying to make it as painless as possible. Not because they don't care; because they know that if they look, they will care too much. How DARE you?
@@LordofFullmetal I didn’t know. But that isn’t exactly fair. Do they get epidural? But that should be illegal for them to do that. It’s the mother’s baby, let her make the choice
Not everything. Regina still lied about the murder of Graham, and what she did to Lily by cutting her hand for her blood was unforgivable. Maleficent would never forgive her for that. Those two loose ends are unfinished. And besides, she murdered Wish Henry's Grandparents. Also, she still looks for someone to blame when someone else is responsible or when she was responsible for it. Like Promos revealed, once a villain, always a villain.
And you Emma wronged your own parents for an author’s sin for what he made them do. And you wrongly said they lied when they really omitted (as you corrected yourself as you apologized poorly), when you are the real liar and have lied to them as you will do it more in the future including how you will hint to try not to tell your father who really murdered his father, just like how you lied about Henry’s father, your real man. The real monster and liar standing like all the real villains, is you!
Something you gotta realize, the author Issac didn't make snow and charming do anything, he certainly made the apprentice send Lilly to our realm, but what snow and charming did to "keep" Emma pure, that was all their own doing. Sure Issac pointed towards the person who could cast the spell, but they could've just walked on by once they heard what doing it would entail. And tell me, what is it to lie? Hmm? A lie is a falsehood, something done in order to hide the truth, whether it be spinning another story or just not telling any story, especially the true story. Why didn't snow and charming tell Emma the truth as to why they wanted to investigate Ursula and cruella? Because if they did, it would lead to more questions eventually leading back to what they did. They did everything on their own when it came to Emma and putting her darkness in someone else, including lying to her. Also, while Emma certainly wasn't anymore right for lying to them as the dark one, she had her reasons too, especially when hook started dying and they just told her(mostly Regina anyway) to just let him die. And when Emma found out from hook about how he killed charming's dad, she went and told him the next day, cause she'd learned about what happens when she keeps things from her family
Also, do you just love hating Emma? Love hating people who call out snow and charming for the crap they did to Lily and maleficent? Crap they did fully in control of themselves? If thats the case, then maybe *YOU* should rewatch the show, actually open your eyes for once instead of keeping them closed to the bad things your favorite characters have done, and the good things your most hated characters have done. You might come to appreciate this show more once you do
Also, don't spout that stupid clip of when charming captures Issac and he says he did it to them because they reminded him of his old self centered boss, when he's talking to them, he's referring to the fact that he made it so they couldn't fix their mistake by manipulating the apprentice into sending Lily to our realm. The thing Issac admits to doing to them, is taking away their chance to fix what they did to Lily and maleficent, what he did to them, was make them live with the guilt of straying down the wrong path for an instant, and keeping them feeling guilty by making it so they couldn't make up for what they did, because they couldn't bring Lily back to maleficent, because he took that choice away from them.
Everyone seems to forget that wants to GET RID OF THE DARKNESS FROM INSIDE OF HER No hero is without blame, Emma can't be blame for her dark actions she's the dark one, she does whatever is necessary to fulfill her goal- Snow and David are THE FARTHEST from being heroes. They put darkest in Maleficents child for gods sake. If that's what heroes do then I'm fine with being a villain, at least I won't have to lie and hurt children
Every word of what you just said about Snowing and Maleficent was wrong and a lie. Have you not watched a thing or paid attention? Isaac Heller made them do it under his writing. It wasn't by free will. When they arrested him, they revealed that he made them do it to hurt them both. He admitted it and everything he answered to that is based off how he altered people's lives, including turning real heroes into villains agains their will all because he foolishly and blindly claimed they represent his bad bosses. go and rewatch that scene, you brainless liar. m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zDotX_TcF9g.html And for the record, one of the writers, Jane Espenson, confessed she made an error saying that Snow did it, when informed of the error. And that crap you just said "(If that's what heroes do then I'm fine with being a villain, at least I won't have to lie and hurt children) is foolish. That's not what heroes do anyway. It's what villains are known to do. So let me reminder you how and what: 1. Zelena pulled a stunt like that by her own free will when kidnapping Snowing's son after he was born to use for her own time spell. 2. Regina tried to murder newborn Emma just after she was born. 3. Hook left children as orphans or fatherless, just like he did to his half brother and what he did to Charming's father (a loose end and unfinished story). 4. Maleficent put a curse on King Stefan and his Queen's daughter, Aurora. And did she apologize for that? No. All proving that's what villains do. And already, Emma already almost did a stunt like that by trying to murder Robin's mother by her own free will just after she was born. Which shows you made the wrong choice thinking you'd rather be the villain. All proving they are true heroes and they are not THE FARTHEST from being heroes, and that is not what heroes do (inly when under control of an author or real villain behind the story), and that Isaac was the real villain you fool. Emma has already been blamed for her actions as you just saw, and making up excuses and lies just to justify her sins, like the real villains do. Being a dark one doesn't excuse anything. Emma committed those sins by free will, not because she was a dark one. While she did those crimes by free will, her parents were actually altered by the writing of the former author just so he can hurt them as they revealed when they arrested him. You can't argue with the proofs and real stories there. Give it up, get real, think and learn harder, and rewatch the show, starting with the clip of Isaac's confession. If you have the guts.
@@kamarmason8077 Unfortunately for you, I did not argue, I was correcting you because you told lies and false information. I'm not the one who tells lies from what really happened. I don't tolerate with lies and false information from people like you. Fact is, no one would. So you hush yourself and get real and no more lies. Give it up.
And you wronged your own parents for nothing Emma. While they were altered two times by the Author, Isaac, you’ve done those evil deeds on your own free will. Shame on you.
Again you said you wouldn’t harm a defenseless person. But you nearly murdered a pregnant woman, ripping a child’s heart out, almost leaving a newborn motherless is harmful. Epsecially how put everyone else in danger by your own greed. And it wasn’t the first time. Cause you let your mother almost get murdered all because you and the other deceitful misguided brat hurt and accused the wrong person last season when all this time the former author made her do this against her will just to hurt her as you did. You are no real savior. Not ever.
Xlaine 13 Yarzagaray How? He’s a hypocrite. He was willing to forgive ALL the sins of Regina and Gold, but not Emma. Why? Because she’s doing what she’s always done? She’s always been a lone wolf. That’s who she is.
@@Riskofrain527 Yes, it´s true that he´s still angry with her due to that reason, but it makes no sense he says that Gold has changed and now he´s reliable. But the worse are Snow, David and Regina who don´t trust Emma , when they´ve just discovered that she didn´t wanna destroy light magic and everything she´s done is to get rid of the darkness. So Emma has proved she´s good.
@@diegol.3264 The thing is, she proved she had good intentions, and that she was trying to get rid of the darkness, but not that she could follow those intentions with the best actions, like taking out Violets heart
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