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Our 2024 Left Field Tier List (with Jolly Olive and Ian Happ) 

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@McCallEdwards
@McCallEdwards 7 месяцев назад
I love how when Jake said "Mark canha?" with such a question inflection I was like that should be a tier in itself
@joelwalker1187
@joelwalker1187 7 месяцев назад
Luke raley below kelenic is the most insane jake take I’ve ever heard
@KirshySquirts
@KirshySquirts 7 месяцев назад
BBD - "Saw him peg a few Yanks." Jake - "Off the field?"
@jackw3302
@jackw3302 7 месяцев назад
And that’s why Jake is my favorite
@UncleBucket
@UncleBucket 7 месяцев назад
Glad to see my boy Brandon Marsh getting some well deserved love, he's been quietly raking since he got to Philly.
@tofuBot
@tofuBot 7 месяцев назад
I would just like to point out that Yelich led this group in fWAR last season, has an MVP in the bag, and his statcast page is very pretty. Definitely deserves a top spot more than Reynolds.
@kevinw.5149
@kevinw.5149 7 месяцев назад
Yelich being lower than that group is WILD
@poolsidejoe
@poolsidejoe 7 месяцев назад
Jolly completely abandoning his Kwan take when that freak Nimmo is mentioned is on par
@JaretDawson
@JaretDawson 7 месяцев назад
As a Rays fan I appreciate that Jolly went to bat for Luke, he was a platoon guy for us but he was so effective at his role, love that guy
@MonsteroftheMW
@MonsteroftheMW 7 месяцев назад
**COUGH** Matt Wallner has the second strongest arm after Nolan Jones according to StatCast **COUGH**
@shaylarz
@shaylarz 7 месяцев назад
Do not run on Wallner. You will not win.
@fuzzybutterballggg3788
@fuzzybutterballggg3788 7 месяцев назад
Marsh bohm and stott are the unsung heroes who keep Philly chugging along.
@michaelkramer6731
@michaelkramer6731 7 месяцев назад
Tough for me to agree with many of jolly’s takes. I thought he was always over glorifying players who arent deserving and underselling players who are
@adu3830
@adu3830 7 месяцев назад
Are you kidding? It's clear he is the only one out of the three that knows ball. Jake keeping Steven Kwan at the fourth tier is ridiculous, he at least belongs in the third tier. A 9.3 war in two seasons at the left field position is insane.
@WestbrookOverrated
@WestbrookOverrated 7 месяцев назад
​@adu3830 if I'm winning now I'm making marsh he deserves to be a tier higher
@asdfaeou
@asdfaeou 7 месяцев назад
​@@adu3830 Yeah, but look how you're even phrasing that. "9.3 WAR in two seasons"...because that split is 5.5 then 3.6. Also, if you break down that 5.5 WAR it's 4.0 offensive, 1.0 defensive....then the 2023 is 1.9 offensive, 1.2 defensive. That's a massive drop both from year to year and in a specific category. Am I saying he won't end up third tier in time? No. Am I saying RIGHT NOW he's fourth tier? Yes.
@Kaibat1205
@Kaibat1205 7 месяцев назад
@@asdfaeouL take if you think Kwan is on the level of those other guys.
@lillyth7482
@lillyth7482 4 месяца назад
I come from the future with a Steven Kwan update - "Kwan batting .353 with a league-leading 47 hits and 28 runs. He has gone 74 straight plate appearances before his last strikeout." - ESPN
@MalachiMillion
@MalachiMillion 7 месяцев назад
You could have had a “I’m Alex Gordon” tier for the defensive ones
@samuelclayton08
@samuelclayton08 7 месяцев назад
Brutal task, beautiful results. This might be my most giggled at show of any JM show
@TimsSalad
@TimsSalad 7 месяцев назад
Happ over Yelich is insane...
@coryemm4872
@coryemm4872 7 месяцев назад
Are we really ignoring the fact that austin Hays plays a bigger LF than Most Center fields?
@BozGoalie
@BozGoalie 7 месяцев назад
Happ getting a 2 tier bump for being a friend of the show...
@generallukeproductions
@generallukeproductions 7 месяцев назад
Jolly has almost become more biased towards the Mets than Giraffe Neck Marc. And that’s saying something
@adu3830
@adu3830 7 месяцев назад
Bullshit, I hate the Mets and I didn't sense that at all.
@samuelclayton08
@samuelclayton08 7 месяцев назад
R u mostly referring to his feelings on Kelnic? Cuz I'm not a Mets, Ms or Bravos fan, and I agree with Jolly in the sense that I feel like his hype his better than his proven sustained talent
@Faded_36
@Faded_36 7 месяцев назад
Nothing he said about any Met or former Met was off base
@docappy
@docappy 7 месяцев назад
As a rays fan, champagne has popped
@joshuameyer1382
@joshuameyer1382 7 месяцев назад
Nootbaar is the 4th best OF option on the Cardinals team, but he's a media darling with high OBP. He's basically Bader 2.0
@deveanatkinson7426
@deveanatkinson7426 7 месяцев назад
Nootbaar just put up a 3.2 fWAR last season, 2nd best on the Cardinals and more than Edman, Carlson, and Walker combined
@joshuameyer1382
@joshuameyer1382 7 месяцев назад
@@deveanatkinson7426 OBP weighs heavily in fWAR, and you named 2 guys who were injured last season along with a rookie
@markdavidson558
@markdavidson558 7 месяцев назад
@joshuameyer1382 in total value they're not far off, but Noot is a career 117 wRC+ with a .780 OPS. He's a 3.9 fWAR/600 PA player. Bader is still a strong player thanks to baserunning and defense, but his hitting is very weak at a 92 wRC+ and a .706 OPS. But he does provide strong overall value at 3.7 fWAR/600 Same player nowhere close. Same value, kinda. But Noot has another level in there
@deveanatkinson7426
@deveanatkinson7426 7 месяцев назад
@joshuameyer1382 You said he was the 4th best OFer on the Cardinals and those three are his competition. He also had a 3.3 bWAR so both sites are in agreement that he's a really good player
@markdavidson558
@markdavidson558 7 месяцев назад
@joshuameyer1382 @deveanatkinson7426 all versions of WAR heavily weighs OBP. It's literally the rate at which you do not make an out at the plate
@big-fish1199
@big-fish1199 7 месяцев назад
I think Marsh is better than Kwan, both are elite defenders but Marsh's offensive potential is higher. (As he showed last year)
@duality4739
@duality4739 7 месяцев назад
Nimmo that high feels kinda silly, & the top row empty 😭
@jaredfreeley8283
@jaredfreeley8283 7 месяцев назад
Y’all need to start checking defensive stats before doing these
@davidott886
@davidott886 7 месяцев назад
Let’s just make a “Spencer Steer” tier
@Inmytimeofdying93
@Inmytimeofdying93 7 месяцев назад
Evan Carter is still a prospect and universally top 10 among MLB Pipeline, ESPN, Baseball America, and The Athletic
@ShrexyGuy
@ShrexyGuy 7 месяцев назад
The Yankees had 4 guys with a 100+ OPS last year, only 8 guys with an 87+ OPS and 150+ ABs. Andrew Benitendi may not be smacking a .300 BA last year, but he was effective enough to have a positive WAR despite his dismal OPS+ and wouldve slotted as the yankees 7th best everyday player by WAR last year. He's fallen, but it doesn't mean he's bad. Id still take him on a team looking to get good again
@Takenbymadness
@Takenbymadness 7 месяцев назад
You know I'm definitely not a Yankees fan at all but i still like to hear what they gotta say. I actually thought of something cuz I love baseball but I don't have the slightest knowledge about players stats and what not or I'd make another podcast about baseball and how I love my team too but it's OK can't be good at everything. Best of luck this season, guys! Let's go Royals!
@Cooper_Vids
@Cooper_Vids 7 месяцев назад
Luke raley should be higher
@stlpatty12
@stlpatty12 7 месяцев назад
imo if noot has a full healthy season, I believe he will break out and could be top 5
@pinverarity
@pinverarity 7 месяцев назад
I’d love to see what you guys could do with a baseball movies tier list.
@jacobsanders5318
@jacobsanders5318 7 месяцев назад
Nootbaar is our right fielder guys, Brendan Donovan pencilled into left... Not that it matters, he's also wait is left field deep 😅
@anthonygattuso4440
@anthonygattuso4440 7 месяцев назад
How is Christian Yelich below Ian Happ? I am a cubs fan and that is insane. Guy won an MVP. Better hitter and also comparable fielder to Happ.
@grime-ndofficial9894
@grime-ndofficial9894 7 месяцев назад
I think Happ is a better defensive player (just not last year) and will be going forward, but yeah he has been barely above League average with the bat. Little Rude to yelich, but I'm guessing it's cause Happ works for them
@Fly-The-W
@Fly-The-W 6 месяцев назад
@@grime-ndofficial9894 Yelich had a couple monster seasons years ago but every other year his ops+ is pretty on par with Happ and Happ is much better defender
@SlurpCEO
@SlurpCEO 7 месяцев назад
36 minutes in and I believe we are en route to the worst tier list yet unfortunately :(
@N0isybag
@N0isybag 7 месяцев назад
Wow LF is seriously deep
@cheetofingersbum
@cheetofingersbum 7 месяцев назад
Matt Wallner is a beast
@TheTEN24
@TheTEN24 6 месяцев назад
How were yelich and Raley as low as they are.
@donmynack
@donmynack 7 месяцев назад
This list is way out of left field, fellas.
@Da_peaches
@Da_peaches 7 месяцев назад
Steer and Gurriel need to be in wait is LF deep?
@oaksprout3
@oaksprout3 7 месяцев назад
Why is Corbin Carroll not on this list? He's played LF the most in the outfield, and he's projected to play there again this year.
@jaker.5854
@jaker.5854 7 месяцев назад
Guriel jr is projected to be the starting LF for Arizona
@Champ-iv9dd
@Champ-iv9dd 7 месяцев назад
Jolly olive can’t be taken seriously with anything Mets related including kelenic. No offense but Jeff McNeil clearly has fallen off from his peak a couple years ago.
@CP1779
@CP1779 7 месяцев назад
Kelenic has been awful outside of the first half (mainly first month) of last season. The conversation surrounding Kelenic seems fair overall. Jolly was not far off here.
@ZM-ij2hx
@ZM-ij2hx 7 месяцев назад
@@CP1779 McNeil is mid at this point
@ShrexyGuy
@ShrexyGuy 7 месяцев назад
Falling off and still accounting for 2.5 WAR? Pretty sick tbf Especially since the Mets paid him a third of the total a 2.5 WAR season is hypothesized to be worth (1 WAR is worth 8 mil, they paid him 6).
@Kaibat1205
@Kaibat1205 7 месяцев назад
Kelenic had a good 2 months and has been complete dogshit the rest of his career
@FTLnovaKid
@FTLnovaKid 6 месяцев назад
“A couple years ago” 💀💀💀💀💀
@asdfaeou
@asdfaeou 7 месяцев назад
I'd argue Evan Carter needs to be in the best ever, AT LEAST FOR NOW, because he's on Randy's exact trajectory for now.
@aaronstreitenberger6012
@aaronstreitenberger6012 7 месяцев назад
No you guys do not know what Kelenic is, he's a AAAA guy and will be who he is in Atlanta (mostly AAA actually).
@AliceYobby
@AliceYobby 7 месяцев назад
wrong
@jimmybyrne9
@jimmybyrne9 7 месяцев назад
For anyone searching, Happer joins on the phone at 1:03:20
@jakegoldman7476
@jakegoldman7476 7 месяцев назад
I hope that you guys are aware that riley green is a starting left fielder in major league baseball. 29 guys listed here, no one from the tigers?
@dylankrejci9965
@dylankrejci9965 7 месяцев назад
Green is listed in right. Mark Canha is the Tigers starting LF
@ToadKart64
@ToadKart64 7 месяцев назад
clickbaiting ian happ in the title when he appears at the end of the video for 2 minutes is insane
@Roysorb
@Roysorb 7 месяцев назад
Olive aint giving Kelenic any laurels 😂
@senrusho
@senrusho 7 месяцев назад
Being so ripped is TONs problem. He has flexability issues that cause him to be SUPER injury prone.
@ericdavies619
@ericdavies619 6 месяцев назад
Disrespect to yelich he is on the level of guys like Nimmo and Reynolds especially given his top end production.
@jaredfreeley8283
@jaredfreeley8283 7 месяцев назад
How is jones not on the same tier as Carter?
@jaredfreeley8283
@jaredfreeley8283 7 месяцев назад
Verdugo was positive OAA…
@Raine574
@Raine574 7 месяцев назад
is corbin carrol not left field anymore
@dylankrejci9965
@dylankrejci9965 7 месяцев назад
Gurriel took over there
@SlurpCEO
@SlurpCEO 7 месяцев назад
All I am going to say is take a quick look at the fangraphs defensive leaderboard for LF and tell me why the top guy on that list just kept getting ignored? Very interesting especially coming from “snakes” Jake
@ajimenz1994
@ajimenz1994 7 месяцев назад
How you gonna forget Yordan Alvarez? Oohhh boyyyy
@jaker.5854
@jaker.5854 7 месяцев назад
He’s expected to be DH with McCormick playing left field
@jaredmorris1787
@jaredmorris1787 7 месяцев назад
if marsh isnt a phillie jolly takes him over kwan lmao
@Cazzyaces
@Cazzyaces 7 месяцев назад
Taking Hays over Nootbaar is blasphemy
@floridastar1000
@floridastar1000 7 месяцев назад
Gallo was debatably never an all-star caliber player
@generallukeproductions
@generallukeproductions 7 месяцев назад
He was 2017-2019 with the Rangers. Gold glove, .900 OPS
@jayohen13
@jayohen13 7 месяцев назад
I maintain that the problem with these videos is that these guys don't know how a tier list works. Just use normal tiers and compare the players instead of getting cute with it.
@joetoscano6376
@joetoscano6376 7 месяцев назад
as soon as Jolly said Foolish…boy would it be fun to watch you three (and bug bug dude ofc) chop it up. Acuña is a right fielder…could be something here.
@joshualemaster4885
@joshualemaster4885 7 месяцев назад
I think you guys miss the point of tier lists when you put no one at the top tier lol
@dylankrejci9965
@dylankrejci9965 7 месяцев назад
It was definitely a joke/commentary about how high they regard Evan Carter’s potential
@nostromonaut
@nostromonaut 7 месяцев назад
Y’all: this was bad
@samuelclayton08
@samuelclayton08 7 месяцев назад
If u ignore the format and just go along for the scenic drive, I found it enjoyable, but that's to taste
@dgrblue4162
@dgrblue4162 7 месяцев назад
Randy is awful in the field. Baseball savant grades Randy as 10th percentile for Outs Above Average. All of his defensive metrics are well below average. He is better offensively, but his batting average is continually falling year-on-year. Sure he has had one all-time postseason, but hasn't been able to reach those heights again..
@alecgau4792
@alecgau4792 7 месяцев назад
Nootbaar had a higher OPS+ than reynolds, and walked almost as much as he struck out (14.3BB% vs 19.7K%) along with a ton of other stats. Top 5 for sure, shot at #1 if you ask me
@pjbuma13
@pjbuma13 7 месяцев назад
Kelenic is the Braves every day LF. He is not platooning with anyone.
@JM-js7nq
@JM-js7nq 7 месяцев назад
Ward is the ultimate “I should be a DH.” He can’t run.
@Cmass9
@Cmass9 7 месяцев назад
He plays a good LF
@badbadchacha
@badbadchacha 7 месяцев назад
Stop with the Evan Carter hype
@adu3830
@adu3830 7 месяцев назад
For me it's obvious that Jolly Olive knows far more about baseball than Jake and his sidekick. The Kwan rating is absolutely ridiculous. This man has a 9.3 bwar in two seasons, and at left field of all positions. He is also an on base god.
@michaelkramer6731
@michaelkramer6731 7 месяцев назад
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