Our 2024 Second Base Tier List (with Jolly Olive) 

"In truth what are we doing?" I love when Jake gets existential

I think jolly musta been too young to appreciate Uggla. Having a guy who looked like live action Popeye go on a 33 game hit streak was magical.

"Go buy your car from Ozzie Albies" Lmao, trust me, you'll enjoy when the context hits

I'm not saying Ozzie is better than the top 3( although him and semien had basically the same ops and ops+) but he could be a top 5 mvp guy for most teams and is just over shadowed by monsters like olson, riley, and of course your reigning NL MVP Ronald Acuña Jr. I'm think Ozzie might jump up a bit with his offensive production this season and show us that ATL's big 3 is more like a big 4

It is frustrating how UNDERRATED OZZIE ALBIES IS!!!!!!

Lol I loved BBD's "I dont want to argue with you if you made a video on Adam Frazier." jab at Jolly. Beautiful.

Jordan Westburg put up 1.2 WAR in his first 60ish games. He might not hit more than 20 homers a year bc camden yards new dimensions but he was on pace for 40 doubles and 5 triples. When he starts stealing more he's going to be a problem.

Crazy to drop Stott a tier. I urge you to watch the way he moves on the field and in the box, he's got the stuff.

If there was ever a guy that I would consider a Foolish Bailey specialty....its Darwin Barney

Always love a Jilly Goggles ep!

As someone who watched a lot of Darwin Barney in 2012 his defenseive numbers were inflated by the Cubs being early adopters of the shift.

Thairo had 3.9 WAR in 120 games. Dude has 20-20 potential with amazing range and smooth play now that he's used to 2nd. That's crazy you'd even consider him an Adam Frazier when Fraizers never even had 3 war in a season. Company is hilarious east coast. Probably should hire some people who don't only watch the AL/NL east.

Estrada was a beast before his two stints on the IL. So if healthy this year he will jump up a couple tiers

We love Nico Hoerner in this family

Man I thought Jake was a Thairo truther smh. According to fangraphs thairo and stott are practically the same. Same exact war (3.9) same exact wrc+ and if you look at statcast thairo has more OAA and has a higher fielding run value. And this was all while playing 30 less games than Stott. If it wasn’t for Jolly Olly’s Mets breaking his hand he would’ve had an even better season. He came back from that injury very slowly and completely ruined his offensive numbers

Hold your beer! the second base tier list is out yall

Love the tier list vids

Bryson Stott is a saint!

Gorman is going to have an insane year. Hold me to it.

Best content on the world wide web. Keep em coming.

B Lowe IF big IF, can be healthy, easily top 5 2B in baseball. 2000 PA, 11th all time OPS+ at 2B. Its insane how good he is when he doesn’t have weird freak accidents like fouling a ball off his knee cap like last year.

13:29 hahaha Jake’s reaction cracked me up

Absolute thairo disrespect. Wth jake youre better than this

I see that they only have 6 catagories, so I hover over the time bar to see if they add more later on and I get jump scared by 9 tiers

The bad stretch in the middle of the season Bogaerts had last year that you guys mentioned was because of injury by the way. He was hit on the wrist by a Spencer Strider fastball towards the end of April and didn't receive a cortisone shot until the All-Star Break, which coincided with when his numbers started to trend up again. When he was fully healthy, he was absolutely raking.

I think Andres Gimenez is essentially universally underrated. He’s put up 12 bWAR the last 2 seasons. His hitting dropped off last year during the first half but he was exceptional once again in the second half, he’s good for 15HR and 25SB, and oh yeah- he’s a platinum glove. Gimenez is an excellent 2B and is in my top 5 in MLB.

What position are you gonna put Brandon drury at?

As a second baseman growing up, I’m super excited about the state of the position. I feel like everyone is either a solid proven starter, or a young guy with potential who just has to prove it. Nico Hoerner is my favorite player, but honestly if I were a manager I’d be genuinely happy with pretty much any of these guys

I like these categories. And I agree with Gorman at Uggla.

Andres Gimenez had 3.6 Fwar, 0.3 behind Thairo who is being comped to Adam Frazier 😂😂😂😂

Glad we showing respect to Marcus

As an Orioles fan - I hope that Westburg becomes the guy, but I wouldn't argue with anything you guys said :D. I will say, I would like Jackson Holliday to play 2nd, Westburg 3rd, and Gunnar stay at short. Gunnar is incredible defensively and I would want him to stay at SS.

I'm just curious, most likely Nolan Gorman will be DH most the year for the Cards, making Brendan Donovan the primary 2B. Where would he fall? I would like to to think at lest the third tier.

Jolly forgetting about Niko Goodrum when he said Nico Hoerner is the inly Nico in history.

Barney was my idol when I was a kid cause I couldn’t hit for my life but could pick it with the glove.

Hello and welcome to Jake and Jack

Great list.

Altuve injury was also not his durability. He got hit by a pitch

Do y’all mind cutting to the graphic on RU-vid like once every ten minutes? That be huge papi

New Tier for the in between 4 WAR been there Before

Kinda crazy how Semien led the AL in hits with a .276 average. Shows that being ironman and being there every day will increase the counting stats. Being on one of the best offensive teams and having the most plate appearances also helps.

31 stolen bases for Bryson Stott…on a team that is amongst the least aggressive on the bases in 2023. If they get a little more aggressive, he could easily get 40.

I will say, as a Braves fan Vaughn Grissom can play absolutely zero defense lol. -13 OAA in 64 games.

Holy shit guys baseball games tomorrow

Luis Arraez may not be an easy 4 WAR but he belongs closer to the MVP talks than any other player outside of the top 3 2B (Betts, Semien, Altuve). two batting titles in a row is no joke. an .861 OPS is insane, and the argument that he is just a singles hitter means nothing when his OPS is higher than guys who hit homers but thats it (Schwarber, Soler, Hernandez). there is so much to like about a .354 batting average, 35 walks to 34 strikeouts, almost as many doubles as strikeouts with 30 (more extra base hits than strikeouts in the season), and 71 runs, 69 RBIs on a team that isnt known for manufacturing runs outside of a Soler bomb. id rather him than any other 2B other than that top 3

Y'all must've been talking about a pre-Atlanta Dan Uggla, because his bat died when he came to the Braves.

100% agree, I could maybe swap Altuve and Albies but I dont think Albies will be MVP just bc of what team he is on and he's in the NL, where you have the dodgers big three. As an O's fan, Westy is probably gonna be our 3rd baseman after we get Holiday up, but Westy already looking amazing, hit a walk of homer last night, so man is gonna be amazing. O's are the next Braves.

Thairo disrespect :(

Im sorry but Altuve not being in the top tier is insane and I’m not even a Astros fan bruh

37:25 Niko Goodrum would like a word

Eduardo Julien is a 2nd base version of Joey Votto. Dude walks a ton

Stotty!! Lets gooooo

Prolly should’ve been 4 WAR potential under 4 WAR easy but that’s just me being picky. I agree with pretty much every category

I am expecting a little bit of regression from McLain but he had 3.7 war in 89 games last year. As long as he avoids major injury I don’t see him finishing below 4 war

Known Oregon state legend Darwin Barney

Great list, no major complaints. Sad part is, if Ozzie was on another team, he'd be in MVP Contention because he could easily still 30+ bases, hes faster than Acuna is.. but since he has riley and olson after him ...stealing is just a dumb idea.

Did I miss the Rockies Brandon Rogers ranking??

Brandon Lowe was injured for parts of the last two seasons. He was great in 2021 and 2020. If healthy, he puts up 4 WAR easy.

Arraez should be in Dan Uggla. Good hitter but not a good defender. He’s also only had a couple seasons just above 4 war so I don’t think he’s 4 war easy.

Do shortstops or right field next please!

I feel Ozzie deserves a category above 4 war easy called The Most VALUEable Player

Where is Brendan Donovan? 4.2 WAR as a rookie in 2022

Michael Massey got shafted in this

Loving these but are we getting a foolish episode any time soon? Missing “Baseball’s Mouth of the South” Bailey Dixon Aiken Freeman.

Somebody please tell all these JM people that his name is Vaughn GriSSom, not Grisham. Like Marquis Grissom, not Trent Grisham.

Ozzie Albies is a potential MVP guy I think. He could definitely have a year like that

Babe Schneider not mentioned 😢

🚨🚨🚨Salt Lake City mentioned🚨🚨🚨

DARWIN BARNEY MENTIONED ‼️🗣️👀

Calling Thairo Estrada a 2 WAR guy after a 3.9 WAR season feels disrespectful

Jake back to pronouncing Grissom as Grisham.

Would anyone want to do a fantasy baseball league? It would be fun to get some Talkin Baseball leagues going

Jake is the best

Altuve didn’t get hurt. He got hit

Did these take over Jake's top 10 and 1 one worst?

Darwin Barney Dodgers legend

I'm angry about that Albies deal all over again. JFC

I mean he’s kinda just Adam Frazier

albies and arraez could 100% win MVP

Matt McLain in the same tier as Jeff McNeil lmfao

I am a Rays fan and god forbid you put Lowe anywhere else but Dan Uggla

There's at least an argument (I'm not saying a good one) for Arraez as Dan Uggla. He's...not a good second baseman.

someone teach jake how to say Grissom

cubs legend darwin barney

These videos beat the hell out of that stupid shredder shit on mlb network

Crawford box merchant

Watching Polanco his entire career, his defense is below par. He was a SS when he started, and played at third during last season's playoffs, and almost cost the Twins if it weren't for Carlos Correa. He's 100% a "Dan Uggla"

Stotts Barney and Ozzie is pretty bad defensively(OAA) but is still probably 4 war>Uggla

Lowe’s a 4 War easy bc he’s got good defense

It is a car wash and it owned by Acuna Jr not Ozzie.....

I'm just glad Matt McLain is the reds second baseman and not Johnathan, haha.

Matt McLain is an easy 4 war guy

Cavan Biggio and not Davis Schneider lmfao

Missing KC?!?!?! Michael Massey

Nico is a dawwwwwgggg

Altuve greatest 2nd baseman ever.

McLain is 4 war easily if he plays 162

Jeff Bagwell is soo much better than altuve jolly knows ball he can't over come his bias tho it shines threw in every tier list video!

Thairos Darwin

Nico Hoerner is great. I really think he’s an elite 2nd baseman. Top tier