Our F1 Driver Ratings for the 2024 Japanese Grand Prix 

Can we talk about how Kmag did this on a 1 stop? A haas doing a 1 stop in Japan is something that no-one would have seen. Plus the pitstop scramble kinda boned him.

Ocon was overtaken 13 times, he didn't have 13 overtakes, that Alpine is an absolute tractor and the strategy didn't help.

Come on Matt & Tommy, don’t be lazy. Give us the total average scores every week !

"unfortunately for Bottas it was a pit stop battle"😆

Magnussen was actually chosen by Haas to drive with a different setup in FP1 to test if they could get more out of the car. That didn't work, and after a FP2 with almost no running, he only had one session to get used to the car.

Yuki is getting everything out of that RB. No way could he get any higher unless another top team driver is struggling with lots of damage or straight up retires. 10/10 from me, he is getting every point possible

Ferrari may have come up with the strategy but it was Charles who was pushing to do the 1 stop. 9/10 for me

Magnussen was screwed over by the teams pit stop and lost two positions. With the Haas top speed I think he could have stayed ahead of Tsunoda.

"While it's ferrari who made the strategy" ??? excuse me? Leclerc is the one who suggested the strat to begin with and refused the twostopper seeing his pace and deg. Nothing to do with clown Ferrari lol... Not even Leclercs biggest fan but that race was a masterclass from HIM and HIM alone lol.

Unfair that Bottas isn't getting an 8 or 9. How are teams with bad cars meant to get a good score if what Bottas just did was a 7. Easily an 8, possibly 9. Even worse after just hearing Yuki got a 10.

Drinking game idea. Take a shot everytime you hear “I’ve also gone for”

Maybe after both drivers you could also add in a team rating for every race? Base it on strategies, pitstops, how the car was that weekend etc.etc. Could have a driver's and constructors battle then and would be fun to see something like aston getting an 8 every week but stroll getting a 6 or the other way around with RB/ last yr ferrari

I feel that was a bit hard on KMag. Finished 1 place behind his teammate, did a completely unnoticed 1 stopper… I’d say Haas gets 6 all arounds

Last year you posted a video halfway through the season about standings with a different points-system, from first to 15th. I was looking forward to see a follow-up after the season finished, but it never came. Could you make one of those halfway through te season and at the end of it please? Have fun next week with your live-shows! I'd love to come to one of those, but a trip to the UK is a little out of my budget

How the hell did Logan get a lower rating than Ricciardo????? Like yeah he went of at Degner 2, fair enough but you both entirely ignored the bad stop???

Why is it when sainz does a strat that the team decides on its automatically sainz who came up with it, and whenever leclerc is the one who suggests the best strat for him, its ferrari who came out with it, like even f1 posted the team radio of charles calling the strat in japan, like it would take no time to research that, and yet here we are.

Logan had a decent race. And like 6/7 overtakes before the pit stop battle. Yes he spun but he still finished the race. Is he Max, no but I do think he’s shown improvement and should have gotten a higher rating.

Matt and Tommy Australia: Max and Lewis should get N/A ratings because they went out at the very start of the race and scoring them will effect their end season scores. Also we should not punish drivers because of factors outside their control and we need to score slow cars higher based on performance. Matt and Tommy in Japan: *_automatic 10/10 for Yuki, gives ratings to Ricciardo and Albon, trashes Logan Sargeant by habit, lower ratings to everyone else, forgets Charles cooked and made his own 1 stop strategy work_*

The logan 3 and 2 is ridiculous. He was running 12th when they screwed up his race in the pits.

Why is stroll not being graded on a different category?

Matt: Ferrari Tommy: FRANK Love the shirt.

I do normally defend Zhou and try to back the Sauber drivers a bit, but it was just a poor weekend all round this time for Zhou, I agree with 3/10, and 7/10 for Bottas - if he had managed to get past Magnussen in their battle I could argue an 8 (the team and car are awful), but having not done that 7 makes perfect sense!

i think it is a little unfair to rate drivers who go out on lap 1. When in your last rating you said max get either a 10 or N/A when we retired after lap 2.

I'm sorry but how does Valtteri get a 7 (6 from the fans?) while Yuki gets a 10 for a very similar performance, they were close all race and I'll argue that Yuki has the better car. As you said, Valtteri did very well and the team once again let him down. What more can he do with that shitbox?

why is no one mentioning how logan's pit crew made him lose 4 positions coz of the timing in the pits? not to defend the poor mistakes, but it seems like everyone forgets the first half of the race where he actually showed some promise for once

It's 4 mins in and Matt has already said the word cheffing. Going to become a drinking game soon.

Daniel causes crash on the third corner Tommy 3 Matt 3, Sargent doesn't have a good race but finished the race Tommy 2 ??? I think if Danny gunned the engine and intentionally run into every car in front of him he'd still get nothing lower than a 3... Can we FINALLY get past the fact that everyone loves Danny and finally grade him on what he does not how much we love him? I like Danny too but he hasn't driven well in three years. Let's be fair not fan-ish

I always think of corn chips when Williams Dorilton is mentioned - Dorilton = Doritos

I feel like their ratings have been getting more and more inconsistent. Hulk should have gotten better than Mag but giving him a 5 on a one stop and he gained 5 positions in the race come on that's at least a 6 or 7 to anyone who cares about the ratings. Also giving a 3 and 2 to Sargent is ridiculous. He didn't have a complete race by any means but he gained a bunch of positions and lost them in the pit scramble, now he did bin it into Degna 2 but those scores are terrible....especially when giving Ric and Albon the scores they did.

Red Bull put Gasly, Nick DeVries, Liam, and Riccardo into the Alpha Tauri (RB) with the sole intention of moving up to Red Bull for Chico's seat, yet Yuki has beaten Gasly, DeVries, Liam, and Riccardo (twice), and even with Riccardo disaster in Suzuka, and the season so far, Christian Horner is still high on Riccardo and not so much on Yuki. Horner "Riccardo 7/10, Yuki 5/5".

Logan deserved better than Ricc come on guys

I hope you guys know that the stake F1 pitstops aren't slow because of the crew, it is the nut design that causes this delay 😢

So people know, as Matt & Tommy never mention it STAKE have all new pit equipment this season. They have known since race 1 it has a problem They need time to fix. They have partly fixed this issue, but not fully They are slowing down the pit stop on purpose to try avoid the threading nut issue.

These ratings feel either super harsh (Logan) or very forgiving

I really respect the analysis you guys give, but I think its a bit hard on Sainz, Bottas, Perez, and Ricciardo this time round. I think the Sainz one is really obvious, he could easily be given a 10 for that drive. I don't think that Ferrari would have achieved better than 3rd unless the RB's had issues. Perez finishing second to Max is the best he is ever going to do. His race was clean and he did really well in Quali and the FP's. Making a criteria that he must beat Max to get a 10 is insane, that RB is tuned in to Max and Max can drive the wheels off it. DR might have moved to make space for Stroll and I don't dispute that caused the prang but the FIA Stewards declared it a lap one incident and recorded no penalty. So in my mind lap one incidents shouldn't be penalised in the rankings either. It would have been better to give him and Albon no score and exclude this race for them both. Bottas is driving that Stake the best anyone could I think and he keeps getting screwed by these pit stops or mechanical issues. The car is clearly horrible and it sort of feels like the ranking punishes the driver for a bad car or a team mistake. There should be a way for a driver in a horrible car to get an 8 or a 9.

You guys should calculate the scores from the last 20 races. Most likely, if you give Max 0 from this point onwards, he’ll still be on top for another 10-12 races. Also Ricciardo & Albon getting higher points than Logan - a hint of some bias maybe?

Yuki is the max verstappen of formula B

As looking at Stake, Haas and other teams progress.. should we also start rating teams as well along with drivers? As this will help Us decouple team issues like Stake from drivers and that will bring better respect to Drivers and their performance.

I think you should start ranking teams aswell with their team orders,strategies, pit stops ect

*THE RICCCCCC* can't finish, and takes out Albon......3 Logan finishes the race 3, 2 🤣🤣

Bottas with an even remotely okay strategy and pitstops is 9th or 10th in that race. It's insane how bad Sauber is at pitstops, just casually lost 2 seconds extra on everyone TWICE and just got stuck on his last stint.

I'm glad I am not the only one that has the same feeling as Tommy about the Riccardo/Albon incident. I agree Daniel left him less than no room, but how is Alex going to try and run along side going three wide into turn two. There was absolutely nothing to gain there, and probably could have backed out and overtaken Daniel at some point in the rest of lap 1 as Daniel was struggling for grip.

Not a very good drive from stroll sure but not quite fair critique. He put on the softs at lap 32 or something and then did 18 laps on them which was longer than a lot of other drivers stints on mediums. He was catching Yuki for the first 15 or something laps and then they dropped off like a cliff the last laps. The call to put softs on was to me a gamble for Aston to somehow get passed tsunonda since they lacked straight line speed due to the setup made. He could easily have stayed on the hards which they put on at the same time as Yuki and secure p11. He was the only driver to do a 3 stopper and was essentially stuck behind yuki for the majority of the race. Had he had clean air or gotten passed yuki through strategy he would most likely gotten p10. To me the most mistakes were made before the race in qualifying and in the setup. For me it's more like a 4 or 5 in rating but not sure if he could have done much more differently on race day.

I think the albon critique from tommy isn’t fair. That would mean he’s never allowed to overtake or battle, because the other driver can always make insane mistakes like just not looking in the mirror of the side you’re turning

Conspiracy theory: Stake’s slow pits are a protest against the shady title sponsor

Ik logan was bad but giving him the same or worse rating than Ricardo who crashed and dnfed is a lil crazy

You should add a team rating too; how did the team do on strategy etc. like so they see this

That tyre management during the race was superb. Good job Carlos and Charles! The team did everything they could in Japan, with what they had to work with, so proud of them! 👏 ❤🇮🇹 Forza C² ❤❤💪🏽💪🏽 💚🤍❤ Forza Ferrari! 💚🤍❤

Has anyone calculated the average pit stop time for each team thus far? Would be hilarious to see how out of whack Stake is.

Laughing so hard at the deadpan of Matt going "[Tsunoda] still beat [an Aston Martin], Stroll and Fernando. Comparable." and Tommy just going "... yes, definitely."

2 for Logan? What? He did a good race (not bad quali) with the car which is not 100%. Yes, he did a mistake, but 2 is waay too harsh. The 4 was legit.

I love all the Lance shade, well deserved

Honestly I'm a big Yuki fan, but people keep acting like his opening lap didn't happen. Before the restart, he got off to an AWFUL start getting overtaken all the way down to P18 (before the crash). His teammate went wide because Yuki was in his left mirror. The restart saved his race, and that just isn't talked about whatsoever. After the restart, he was great. But not sure why we ignore the opening lap

how do you rate Zhou and Logan the same when one of them literly drove off track and the other didnt?

Actual F1 experts, Team Principals and the drivers themselves : Wasn't Daniel's fault. MattP1Tommy : Was Daniel's fault. Ok then, why have any objectivity, I guess.

Tommy and Matt on fire... Great episode...

Why is everyone raving on about Tsunoda? In qualifying he is superb, no doubt there, and he certainly got a great result in Melbourne but the point in Suzuka was thanks to the great work of his pit crew to win back the three positions he lost on track. If you look at fastest race laps, in Bahrain he only beat Bottas and Ocon, In Jeddah, he was basically slowest, Melbourne was pretty good and Suzuka was just ok. Logan Sargeant has actually had a better fastest lap than Yuki in each of the three races they have both started. If you look at qualifying to race result in Bahrain he lost places to Stroll, Zhou and K Mag (I won't count Ricciardo) and only gained over Hulk. In Jeddah he outqualified but finished behind Bearman, Hulk, Albon, K Mag, Ocon and Sargeant. Melbourne he was only overtaken by Stroll in the race but in Suzuka he was only saved from being passed by K Mag, Bottas and Sargeant by the great pit stop. So overall, in three out of four races so far he has actually gone backwards when racing out on track, where it matters most. But even in qualifying, if we accept that the RB is the 6th fastest car he is basically where he is expected to be. He outqualified Hamilton and Alonso in Melbourne but other than that has only beaten Stroll - Bearman doesn't really count in those circumstances. I think this is more a case of Daniel Ricciardo underperforming.

Is there not a sports bar that could host you guys at 3AM as you do you Twitch stream for the late ones? Im sure there are some larger inner city ones which do this sorta stuff...late license kinda thing.

An 8 for Norris is so harsh, Massively outperformed in quali and finished where he should in the race, would have been even higher if not for Mclaren strategy.

Here we go

I hope Yuki continues to drive well. His last 10 races show consistency in bringing out the best in a weak car.

At least Logan was catching people and dispatching them with authority! Actual Entertainment Value 6 points!

Stroll should get a 10/10 for that drivers radio

I just saw you on Alex’s podcast, that wasn’t a crossover I could have predicted.

Fernando, Sainz and Yuki best drives I would say

You guys should do P1 and Donkey of the day

Matt, thanks for highlighting that Yuki defended against Lance. And Tommy a _Yuki-hater!!_ 😂😂😂 Can you guys pls have Yuki as your guest some time? You guys interviewed him in his debut year it’s be cool to see him again.

Its a bit early to find out how the season will progress.. But so far Ferrari has made some consistent tactical calls from the team, The fans put this down to the first time use from the team tacticians and analyst software at Marcello of Ai. At least the use of Ai will do one of two things..make their fractional calls consistently bad or consistently good ?

I think the grading for Sargeant is extremely harsh. He was literally with Bottas. He was right there with Bottas as the 5 car pit battle came and he came out behind Bottas. If you mention how much Bottas got screewed over by Kick pitstop, you have to mention how Sargeant got screwed over in exactly the same way. Otherwise you are either biased or ignorant. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he has done enough to get a 3rd season, but if you want to pretend to be anything close to journalists, or that your reviews are meant to be taken seriously, you have to apply common sense and put away your bias.

Albon destroys car -5 Logan finishes race-2

Imo, that attempted overtake from George on Oscar and the battle that followed was good and fair racing. F1 isn’t meant to be easy with effortless overtakes. It should be the best drivers in the world doing whatever they can within the rules to win. And I’d rather a driver who was ruthless and wasn’t afraid to take a chance when the opportunity was there (and it was there). George showed that he has no fear. And sometimes it won’t work, obviously. But that fearlessness is going to be rewarding in long-run.

"I've never seen a team struggle so much in their pot stop, and that come from a Ferrari fan."Matt, is that supposed to be a slunder to Ferrari to prove your point

I don't understand the points system in F1, 20 cars but only the top 10 get points, so a team can finish 11th in every GP and at the end of the season be level on points with a team that finishes 20th in every GP, why don't the points go right down to 20th so at least a backmarker team as somthing to show for it's efforts.

Yall did logan dirty

The pitstop issues for Kick I thought were well documented???????? It's an issue with the wheel nuts expanding as they heat up. It's a problem with the design, not the pitstop of the crew themselves. There's a flaw in the design of the car and the nuts / heat, so nothing you can just fix instantly. They're getting too much heat.

Hamilton had damage on front wing, feels you did not take this into account at all, this is why he offered to swap positions.

Am I the only one that finds annoying the part when they mention where they qualified and also where they started? I feel it's unnecessary and it just gets me all confused because I'm expecting race result. I know there could be penalties, but I feel like that's a rare occurance and not that big of a jump if you get promoted that it deserves a mention.

Would love to see a ranking from worst performing to best (where you have to agree on one list) -- or just arguing over a tier list ranking/order -- maybe done every 3 races or something

2024 & Ver: 13:03 13:30 13:59 14:22 2024: 14:58 15:28 DRS: 15:16 Sta (not included): 15:40 Ver: 21:23 21:55

Idk about 2 for logie bear tbh

I’m a Yuki fan as well! 😂 he is such a consistent driver. I wonder what would happen if they put him a faster car. 😮

Would love to see you guys Interviewing Lance Stroll. Please Interview him @Matt and @tommy

Again with all this Logan hate. Like guys, he did decent during the race. He was overtaking and was running 11th. Give the guy some credit. Need I remind you guys, he had a really bad pit stop. So really? A 3 and a 2? Really harsh guys.

Why do I see links for the fan vote only for alternate races in the community posts

Lando an 8, then giving Charles an 8 is absolutely wild. Surely you dont rate qualifying higher than the race result...

I don't really believe in awarding 10/10 unless a performance was truly unbelievable. If they performed better next time, what would you rate it. Yuki did pull off a fantastic drive so I'll give him 9/10. Same as Max, of whom Yuki was my favorite.

Average ratings after Japan Average Matt ratings Max Verstappen: 10 Oliver Bearman: 10 Carlos Sainz: 9.33 Charles Leclerc: 8.25 Fernando Alonso: 8 Yuki Tsunoda: 8 Lando Norris: 7.75 Sergio Perez: 7.75 Oscar Piastri: 7.5 Nico Hulkenberg: 7 George Russell: 6.75 Kevin Magnussen: 6.5 Alex Albon: 6 Lewis Hamilton: 5.75 Valtteri Bottas: 5.75 Zhou Guanyu: 5.25 Esteban Ocon: 5.25 Lance Stroll: 4.75 Pierre Gasly: 4.75 Logan Sargeant: 4 Daniel Ricciardo: 3.75 Average Tommy ratings Max Verstappen: 10 Oliver Bearman: 10 Carlos Sainz: 9.33 Charles Leclerc: 8.25 Fernando Alonso: 8 Oscar Piastri: 7.75 Lando Norris: 7.75 Sergio Perez: 7.75 Yuki Tsunoda: 7.5 Nico Hulkenberg: 6.75 Kevin Magnussen: 6.25 George Russell: 6.5 Esteban Ocon: 6 Lewis Hamilton: 5.75 Valtteri Bottas: 5.75 Alex Albon: 5.5 Zhou Guanyu: 5 Pierre Gasly: 4.75 Lance Stroll: 4.25 Logan Sargeant: 3.67 Daniel Ricciardo: 3.5 Average fan ratings Max Verstappen: 10 Oliver Bearman: 10 Carlos Sainz: 9.33 Charles Leclerc: 8 Lando Norris: 7.75 Sergio Perez: 7.75 Oscar Piastri: 7.5 Fernando Alonso: 7.5 Yuki Tsunoda: 7.5 Kevin Magnussen: 7.25 Nico Hulkenberg: 7 George Russell: 6.75 Alex Albon: 6 Lewis Hamilton: 5.5 Zhou Guanyu: 5.25 Lance Stroll: 5 Pierre Gasly: 5 Esteban Ocon: 5 Valtteri Bottas: 5 Logan Sargeant: 4 Daniel Ricciardo: 3.5

Sorry but how’s piastri been given a 7 and Norris an 8😂 3 tenths ahead in quali and 17 secs in the race. Made no mistakes and was beaten by the clearly faster cars, while piastri couldn’t get past alonso and made a mistake which cost him a position to Russell. Should be a 6 and 9 imo

Does anyone know why Lance pitted again? He pitted when he was right behind Tsunoda, so I thought he would eventually get past him for the final point. The next thing I knew, he was in the pits with softs going for a pretty long run on them, too. I didn't really understand that.

How can you rate Albon with a 5, when he ended his race on lap 1, and on the other hand rate Logan with 2 and 3, when he did a pretty decent race ? TOTALLY unfair.

You joke about Yuki winning Formula B, but were the 5 slower teams racing separately on the same scoring scheme as the whole field, Haas would be now leading the constructors championship ahead of VCARB with a larger margin than Red Bull ahead of Ferrari, and Yuki would still be leading the drivers championship.

Ricciardo getting, on average, a better rating than Sargeant is downright laughable. He got outqualified by his teammate yet again, fell from 11th into the clutches of Albon and Stroll off the start, and was so busy looking at the distant Stroll and the next corner that he neglected to think that there could be a WHOLE-ASS CAR next to his other side after he did nothing but hemorrhage position and pace from the start. His negligent driving ended two races after just 2 corners. Hand-wringing about the accident Ricciardo caused by saying that it was just "first lap things" or that it was "risky" for Albon to come alongside there is just pathetic apologism. Sargeant, on the other hand, had a decent race going until his off. He recovered and brought the car home safely. He was never going to challenge for points, and at this point nobody will be surprised if he gets replaced mid-season. If these ratings are based around expected versus actual performance, how does this shake out then? We all know Sargeant is utter crap. He had a decent drive until he did what he normally does. Ricciardo, despite being on the decline, is a seasoned veteran of the sport, a multi-time race winner, a former title contender, and is probably somewhere on the list of potential takers for the 2nd RBR seat. This then is decidedly not the kind of performance he should be having. Love the show, see you next time out ♥

Ferrari didn’t even come up with the strategy. It was Charles who imposed himself and begged for it basically.

Verry generous choice of words calling Alex brave. It was stupid. Sticking his nose up the out side there was 1. Daniel sees me and I exit the corner behind him. 2. Daniel doesn't look and we both exit the race.

Logan had a good race. Pit stop was terrible at a critical moment, and he had been driving the quickly-repaired chassis from Melbourne. Definitely not a 2 or 3.

Carlos, yuki, perez

Max took the fastest lap on the last lap of the race…… what a monster

As much as I love Alex Albon, the more I watch his onboard the more it looks like a move againt AI in an F1 game opening lap

now with checo on form. red bull have 2 seconds of broadcast at the start and 5 seconds when the cross the finish line

Nice video but 2 things to add: - Ricciardo wasn‘t alone st fault. Albon was in his blind spot and in the first lap you can‘t manage to Watch after all cars. Albon should have backed up. - Charles was only 1 tenth behind Carlos in qualifying. And in the racer, he wanted the one stop strategy. Xavi told him to go with the 2 stop because the hards weren’t working on mercedes. Charles insisted and went for it. So in my opinion Ricciardo gets a 4 and Charles an 8,5 or a 9.