As of Update #6 this video is now outdated. Her recruitment no longer requires special conditions to be met, as Minthara can now be recruited even after being knocked out during the Grove raid.
*As of Update #6 this video is now outdated.* *Her recruitment no longer requires special conditions to be met, as Minthara can now be recruited even after being knocked out during the Grove raid.*
originally you could knock her out and get her like this but they patched it out cause it wasnt by design but we remained persistent and went through all the hassle to get our drow badass that they said fine you can have her
the devs mustve been impressed by the method people came up with to recruit her without killing innocents as intended. Game of the Year no doubt about it
@@armpitlicker4735mod was janky. Honestly just Dimension Door spam with an Extended Spell metamagic on Polymorph. Easy peasy. Not needed now, of course, but still.
That is one reason why I still praise CDPR. Those guys actually listen to the gamers, admit their mistakes, and still try to improve their game. On the other hand American devs set their goal to make fun of & look down upon the gamers.
They should have a cutscene similar to Auntie Ethel, where mid-combat the Prism disorients her and you get a flash of her backstory, then you can choose to knock her unconcious similar to Minsc in Act 3.
So, does knocking out the Hag's mask thralls counts as killing them, in both Act 1 and Act 3? I don't want to waste doing it again if it is still the same.
Just want to be clear her romance/sex scene is accessible if you destroy the grove with her or destroy it in a full blown civil war in the grove. Minthara’s real romance starts if her approval is high enough and during the high approval conversation pick lover for the dialogue choice to start your real romance with Minthara.
So it is possible to romance her in Act 2 without slaughtering the Tieflings, right? Just checking cause I did a playthrough where I killed the Tieflings and romanced her,but I also wanna do one where I side with the Tieflings.
@@altus2447just make sure her approval is high enough start your real romance with her and pick the lover dialogue choice in that high approval conversation
Its funny that if you complete Halsin’s sidequest jn act 2 with Minthy in the party, she gets an inspiration from it. So they do interact in a weird way
_With Update #5 Larian officially enabled Minthara to be recruited while siding with_ *Halsin and Zevlor;* _When you are ready to wipe out the entire Goblin camp; in order to recruit Minthara you first have to make her_ *TEMPORARILY HOSTILE* _by_ *COMMITTING A CRIME* _next to her and then_ *NON-LETHALLY KNOCK HER OUT.* _Despite the journal mentioning she died, continue to slaughter everyone in the Goblin camp in order to save the Tieflings and the Grove._ _Once you eventually reach ACT II with everyone saved; Minthara can be found in Moonrise Towers being judged by General Ketheric Thorm where you can recruit her. She and Halsin will both be chilling at camp after she's been rescued._ *DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES knock Minthara out without the TEMPORARILY HOSTILE tag under her healthbar, otherwise she will not spawn in ACT II.* 00:00 STEP 1 - Commit a crime next to her within the Goblin Camp 00:13 STEP 2 - Non-lethally knock Minthara out 00:22 STEP 3 - Wipe out the rest of the Goblin Camp by killing Priestess Gut and Ragzlin 00:26 CONGRATULATIONS! - You will find Minthara at Moonrise Towers in ACT 2 when you eventually get there.
Okay, so, we can knock out Minthara now, in order to recruit her later. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm curious, how does this affect Halsin's recruitment? Are you able to have them both as companions now, or are they still seperate? Could you show them both on video?
If anyone was curious like I was, I tested this with Patch 5 going to Moonrise as fast as I could to see if Minthara showed up. I needed to see if you could finish the quest defeating the Goblin leaders for Halsn to leave, all you have to do is Knock out Minthara again to get him to leave after defeating the other two, the Journal will say shes dead but I went the Mountain Path to get to moonrise and boom she was there and I got the Party and Grove saved, Im guessing this will work with going through the Underdark as well hopefully. This was only because I long rested and she was up again. and Halsin wasnt leaving the Goblin Camp for me.
@@scarfking1579 All I did was knock her out and he was like hey thanks and the party at the grove worked, the Journal mentions she was dead but she was at moon rise still.I didnt go frurther than the cutscene because I was so tired lol it was 6am
Thank you, i had the quest Kill Gobelins Leaders before the first time i saw Minthara, so when i knocked out Minthara, Halsin refuse to leave as the game is considering Minthara alive (Halsin dont want to move and the tiefflins dont react to my victory at all). So once its all clear with Minthara and Halsin alive, is to knockout a second time Minthara ?
Based on the fact that you can only do this by turning her temporary hostile rather than permanetly (luring her to grove, avoid killing Ragzlin first, confront her etc.) it seems this was not intended and might be fixed at some point. It might be that Larian tried to fix a bugg/issue where if Minthara was knocked out in act 1 after you allied with her the game would not put her in act 2 - so the fix wasnt to make it possible to recruit her without killing the grove but rather a fix to sort that particular issue out that accidently created a new way to recruit her.
Doing a good playthrought with minthara is such a wrong doing, they just added the recruitment without the grove riding bc of the simps. A evil char in a good playthrought its displaced lol
@@user-hf1dv3wt3l Its not though. It didnt really make much sense to limit her as a character in that regard - both in terms of her lore/personality but also just in terms of general effect on gameplay. Cause the whole thing if you actually play with her character is you learn quite quick she isnt exactly evil - not any more so than Lae'zel or Astarion at the very least
@@pepparmostheelder Laezel chnages with exp outside the stupid gith society. Mintharas core is she likes killing abusing power and she encourages u to do evil things, the things u find funny " her comments" are also not a joke shes serious. She clearly has no empathy or cares alot about others, all she cares is power. Astarion okey also not rly a good dude , but doesnt encourges as much as Minthara does. xD
@@user-hf1dv3wt3l Yeah sure, a evil char in a good playthrough is displaced, not like Astarion and Lae'Zel that literally approve of you raiding the grove, killing tieflings/druids/letting the kid die, but you can still have them in your good run lmao
ok, just knock her out. Got it. Perfect. i saw a bunch of those videos about those weird exploits and all that, got really intimidated at the long complexity. glad I don't have to do that anymore. I've seen clips of her character and thought she could be scary fun in the party. I really didn't want to let everyone get slaughtered in the Grove. Glad this is available as an option. 💜
@@user-ct4oj3ic1g …explain…the Karlach and Wyll scenario… Cheating…Mizora…seems to not be possible…if you kill Karlach and then revive her… That…is a loss…with this latest…patch… Larian has…the data for your mortal…behaviour…which one mattered more…to all of you?..
Well hey, now I may actually consider adding her to my party. (Literally even my darkest bad guy Playthrough wouldn’t raze the Druid grove because that forfeits a bunch of other characters I like.
It's still a work in progress. Her tent still occupies the same spot and overlaps with Halsin's tent at camp and they still have 0 interaction with each other since they're meant to be mutually exclusive. So don't worry about it for now lol.
Thanks man, I restarted my play through over just so I could do this. I wanted to get both karlach and Minthara on the same party and this is the only way 👍
@@Crimsomrider So is this still an exploit/bug then? Does she recognize that we knocked her out or does it play out in the same way as if we ignored her?
@@tyler-hp7oq Nope, she does not make any comments about fighting us because she mentions in camp that she had no control over her actions whatsoever prior to us freeing her, so she holds no grudges.
*FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS* *What do I have to do to recruit Minthara?* - 00:00 STEP 1 - Commit any sort of crime next to Minthara within the Goblin Camp to make her *Temporarily Hostile* - 00:13 STEP 2 - Non-lethally knock Minthara out while she is *Temporarily Hostile* - 00:22 STEP 3 - Immediately after kill Priestess Gut and Ragzlin without taking a long rest until they're dead - 00:26 CONGRATULATIONS! - You are now free to continue playing the game however you wish and Minthara will be at Moonrise Towers in ACT 2 when you eventually get there. *Is there anything else that has to be done other than these 3 steps?* - _No, these 3 simple steps are all that is required. No more, no less._ *Can I talk to Minthara at all if I want to recruit her?* - _Yes, you can fully talk to Minthara about anything and everything. Just DO NOT start the raid and DO NOT tell her you're there to hunt her._ *Can I save Sazza?* - _Yes, Sazza can even be seen in the video standing next to Minthara in ACT 2. Rescue Sazza from the Grove and from Minthara. When she learns of the Grove's location simply tell her you don't wish to be a part of the raid and then tell her you have other stuff to do first._ *Can I save the Grove, Tieflings and recruit Halsin along with Minthara?* - _Yes, this is a way to recruit her during a _*_good playthrough_*_ therefore everyone is alive and well. Grove is saved, Tieflings are saved and alive in ACT 2, Halsin is a companion along with Minthara in ACT 2._ *Can I kill Priestess Gut before knocking Minthara out?* - _Yes, Priestess Gut can be killed at any time whenever the player wants. When she is killed doesn't matter at all._ *Can I kill Ragzlin before knocking Minthara out?* - _NO, Ragzlin has to be killed after she's knocked out because his death makes the entire camp permanently hostile._ *Can I knock Minthara out during the raid battle?* - _NO, because at that point she can no longer become _*_Temporarily Hostile._*_ Please follow the 3 simple steps exactly as mentioned._ *Minthara just stands uninteractable in the Goblin camp after the celebration with Halsin and the Tieflings?* - _Congratulations, it means you did it correctly and she'll show up at Moonrise._ *I knocked Minthara out, why is she not at Moonrise?* - _There are many answers to that question, none are important. You did it incorrectly, please ensure you're following the mentioned 3 simple steps to the letter._ *Is this an official method for a good playthrough?* - _Yes, Larian specifically mentioned in their Update #5 patch notes that Minthara will now show up in ACT 2 if she was knocked out during ACT 1. The implementation of it is currently quite raw and basic, but I have no doubt Larian will make this much better with future updates. For now it has to be done specifically this way._
i killed gut and then knocked out minthara. i killed some more goblins afterwards and upon going back to check on her, she was standing and i was unable to interact with her, like you said. i thought i did it wrong so i knocked her out again (temporarily hostile). is this all right or did i mess it up? (i have not yet killed ragzlin and completed halsin's quest, so i'm not sure if something is different with mine)
As someone who just got the game, this video didn't really explain anything. In fact, if you used/explained your pin comment in the video, that would have worked. Thankfully I've seen other comments explaining the context and I fortunately KO'd her (on accident) and killed the others. Hopefully I'll find her in Moonrise Towers.
sry if i didnt get what you wrote, but if i do evrything correct, can i still start the party iwth the tieflings or is this a long rest and it will fail with minthara?
@@tonyspizza6606 Yes, you can freely play once Priestess Gut and Ragzlin are taken care of. Avoiding long resting only applies between knocking out Minthara and killing them two.
@@AgeofJP yes she has some lines about them, also there’re some banters. I don’t get why people still don’t know, but you could recruit Minthara via ignoring grove quest and you didn’t have to lose Wyll and Karlach in this scenario. However tieflings still die when you travel to Mountain pass or act 2. The only downside is xp loss, but even in this case you could just murder whole camp except Minthara and still get her. All you need was keeping her alive and ignoring grove conflict.
*WARNING: This CRASHES the game in the current patch. If you knock out Minthara, then do a long rest, the game crashes. Multiple people have reported this bug, hopefully Larian fixes this
FIX FOR CRASH: Go to Act II after knocking her out and killing the other goblin leaders and Long Rest in the Shadow Cursed Lands. It will not crash anymore.
I saw some people saying, that if you save Sazza you can't get Minthara in the Moonrise Tower - this is not true, I just got to the Moonrise Tower on a good playthrough in honour mode and both Minthara and Sazza were in front of Kethric, I was able to save both of them (got the achievement "She Cannot Be Caged", and Minthara joined me in the camp). Also I saw comment, that you can't talk to Minthara at all before knocking her out - this is not true either. What I did exactly was this: peacfully went through goblin camp, reached Minthara, talked to her, but did not commit to the attack on Grove (I don't remember the exact dialog option, but it was something like "i need some time" option). Then I sneaked behind her, attacked her, knocked her out and proceded to kill the whole goblin camp from there. One thing worth noting is my quest to kill all the leaders seemed bugged after clearing the whole camp, so I went back to Mintharas room and she was awake (but naked). So I knoecked her out again, the quest finished and I never went back to her again.
Yeah unfortunately lots of misinformation is being spread around despite the official instructions being an incredibly simple 3-step process. Even more ironic considering Sazza can be seen standing next to Minthara in the video while she's in front of Ketheric ^^
It's definitely not fully working as intended still. Even though it's an official method approved by Larian to recruit her, it's not perfect. Most noticeably her and Halsin's tents are still in the same spot and overlap in the camp and they don't acknowledge each others existence since they're supposed to be mutually exclusive.
The Patch doesn't work. I knocked Minthara at the Goblin-camp in the fight. She still was alive. I went to Halsin and reported that all Leaders are dead. At my camp the Party started and after that I continued with the game. Yesterday I arrived at Moonrise-Tower and opened the door but in the room there are only the Goblins and no Minthara. What made I wrong?
If she wasn't made *Temporarily Hostile* first prior to being knocked-out, she won't be in ACT 2. The pinned comment/description has all the necessary info.
I free Halsin at first. Told him to stay, I handle this alone. First I killed the Hobgoblin and than the priestess. After both are dead, I went to the room were Minthara was standing. NOW she is agro and had a red marker, after I killed the two goblins in the anteroom. So I had to fight against her. I knocked her out and loot her inventory. After that I continued my game. I don‘t know what I did wrong.
@@theeaglefliesalone666 _"First I killed the Hobgoblin..."_ That's the issue. He has to be killed *after* Minthara is knocked out, otherwise just like the entirety of the camp she becomes a permanent enemy once Ragzlin is killed and cannot be made *Temporarily Hostile* any longer. This is already mentioned in the description/pinned comment.
I just played through this today! After knocking her out and making my way to Moonrise (skipping Underdark to hasten my arrival, I'll go back to it later), I encountered an odd bug. I walked into the throne room and she was standing right there, then POOF gone. The cutscene played without her and I was super bummed. Then, I found her standing nearby, no guards, no hostility, I walked up and talked to her. The conversation was as though I had just freed her from torture and I was given the option to get her out of there. I picked it, she aggroed the guards and immediately got downed. So then I loaded it, had a companion cast invisibility on her with a scroll during our conversation, and then RAN for the door. At the far end of the bridge, the conversation picked up as normal. Hopefully this will help anyone who has the same issue.
This doesn’t work for me. I don’t understand why. I did pretty much exactly what you did. Temporarily hostile, knocked her out, then killed the other goblin leaders. I can even check rn in my playthrough that she’s alive right and still standing there in the goblin camp before meeting ketheric thorm. But she doesn’t show up in the throne room. I don’t understand wtf is going on. It feels like the only way to get her at this point is by using the glitch.
Unfortunately I have no clue why some people are not seeing her in ACT 2, because I've attempted to test multiple different scenarios trying to break her spawn by playing like a complete lunatic and I have absolutely no issue always getting her to spawn. The exact base way I tested this today is; - Got the quest from Zevlor to defeat the Goblin leaders - Killed Priestess Gut after letting her inspect me - Knocked out Minthara after committing a crime next to her - Killed Ragzlin And that's it. After these three steps I tried breaking her spawn in so many different ways by resting in front of her multiple times, trying to talk to her, completely ignoring Halsin, talking to Halsin only AFTER I kill the leaders, etc.... maybe people are taking a long rest between knocking her out and killing Ragzlin? I have no clue really.
There are still bugs, if you try and save her from the prison (honour mode so no reloads) and fail the persuasion check on the guards, the whole place aggroes you and eventually she might die, as she did on my run, now her corpse is not revivable, but is stuck as a follower in my party (her portrait) and there's no way to get rid of her.. probably going to baldurs gate will remove her but idk, my honor mode playthrough might just have a dead minthara's portrait for the entire run..
Imagine what Minthara must be thinking when she turns around to see the same four people that beat the fuck out of her in the camp walk into Moonrise tower.
I believe they did another patch for this. It still works, but you can't have both Halsin and Minthara, there will be a new scene where Halsin tells you he won't work with her and you need to tell one of them to go when you recruit her.
It fucking sucks because I did everything on a video I saw and after hours and finally at Moonrise, she is not even there. It was weird already when I knocked her out and she disappeared after that. I created a new game just to have her as a compagnion.
I did knock her out without comtting a crime and turning her temporarily hostile first. Guess what? She didnt show up in act 2. Fuck it! I am gonna keep playing anyway. I cant go back now. It was a whole days work. But thanks for the heads up! I will do as you say for my next playthrough to get Minthara
@@preivraum2691 and it was the patch 5 playthrough. I’m upset because i prepared everything for sheepthara, assuming the worst.. but when i arrived to moonrise she wasn’t there, i reloaded and teleported back to the goblin camp to start the procedure aaaand she wasn’t there either..
I dunno how to feel about this. On the one hand it’s nice to be able to get her and save the tieflings…but it gives less value to an evil playthrough that already has less content than the good path.
I just started a Tiefling slaughter playthrough so I can actually romance Minthara, because the romance seemed completely bugged if Minthara was recruited through any other method (e.g., ignoring the grove, sheepthara glitch, or mods). I wonder if the romance is fixed now, or if I killed Wyll and Karlach for nothing.
My first playthrough was an ignore the grove playthrough so I could recruit her. I was romancing shadowheart at the time and she suggested to break it off and be with her instead at the start of act 3. The romance option seems to work
@ApparentlyJade And did you accept her advances? And did anything actually happen afterwards? I've recruited Minthara every way other than slaughtering the Tieflings, and the romance happens the exact same way. We kill Ketheric, she comes on to me, I accept and nothing happens. It doesn't work.
I followed this exactly, rescued her in moonrise, talked to her in camp, but I can’t recruit her. After our first conversation in camp, she now remains silent.
now some things needs to be fixed. first, the journal where it says she is dead, should be instead (its unclear what happend to her after she got knocked out) or something and the second thing, the tents. she needs her own spot, which shouldn't be too bad and maybe will be implemented in patch 6. :)
I didn't know about the Temporarily Hostile condition and now I've gotten to Moonrise 18 hours after I attempted to get Minthara >.< Welp, next playthrough
I recommend reloading and being absolutely sure you made her *Temporarily Hostile* before knocking her out by following the instructions mentioned in the Description/Pinned Comment, because if it was done right then she'll just be standing there the next day.
Once Minthara comes back to your camp do you have to choose between her and Halsin or can you convince them both to stay? I know theres datamines from weeks ago saying you have to choose, but Im looking for a more definitive answer before considering starting a new game.
Neither, they both just chill at the camp. Their tents are overlapping, but other than that hey both seem perfectly fine ignoring each other. Maybe that changes sometime later in the story, but so far nothing suggests that one has to choose between either of them. Now that Larian implemented this as an official way to recruit her their dynamic probably might change in the future patches to seamlessly integrate her with everyone.
It’s certainly cool that the developers listened to players who want to get Mintara without the massacre in the grove, but this is called “gaming impotence” when the player cannot bring himself to do something “bad” or “different” in the game even in order to watch all the content. Mintara is a woman worth killing for.
Still they need to fix her and you can see larian never really wanted this ( her tent in camp and halsin should never be together hope they fix this asap
Fantastic. Something like 1-2 days before patch release I was killed Minthara, because It wasn't possible to recruit her without consequences. Bravo me :/ Maybe in second playthrough...
ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i messed up. i told her i'm hunting her in dialogue and started a fight, knocked her out, but she's not in moonrise. my game took her for dead :(
But why not let her be exclusive for evil runs, i mean she doesnt fit good runs well. Ye her comments are funny but shes not joking at all. For me she doesnt fit good runs at all.
@@user-hf1dv3wt3l You know there is more than two ways to play the game right? You can be neutral too kind of, you dont have to be full on evil or good, which is why it makes sense to recruit her even if ur not evil, since shes not full evil either.
@@user-hf1dv3wt3l In addition to what everyone else said... you also sacrifice too much to get her in evil runs. The grove incident costs you 3 characters (Wyll, Karlach, Halsin). That's honestly not worth it, even as good of a companion she is. You miss 3 whole character arcs, and the ability to save the Cursed Lands should you choose to redeem yourself later on.
Finally, i can remove the mod frn my game. They really turned that exploit into a feature just coz the players wanted it. They listen to feedback Shoutout to the " Daughter of loth" Mod on Nexus that allowed u to easily recruit her in act2 without any tiresome work. That mod has been a blessing all these months
Another tip: if you’re The Dark Urge and rescue Minthara, you lose a journal where Ketheric recognize us. He just treats us like Tav, but only after he leaves we feeling suspicious about Ketheric somehow recognize us
Ketheric recognizing The Dark Urge is still buggy. It happens whether or not you choose to destroy the Grove or save it. I quicksaved before going in once, and he recognized me the first time. I reloaded the quicksave, and for some odd reason the unique recognition dialogue did not play. It's weird, but it's not a super huge bug so it's probably not on Larian's immediate radar atm.
@@kibuki91 yea, although in my previous Dark Urge Ketheric recognize me but no Minthara in Moonrise Tower because she just gone after long rest back then
Well but it only worked for me without collect the quest ,,Save the refugees“ so she was just temporally knocked, activating the quest knocked her out permanently and that means she was dead
You can speak to her about anything and everything, just musn't initiate the raid or tell her you are there to kill her because that makes her permanently hostile. Please read the description/pinned comment instructions carefully.
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