@@aspectgaming.Mayalokam. I just say this cause it could have a really hard, emotional affect on weak hearted people. I'm as dark as the human race can get so that's why I love it.
I just wanna say near admitted he would've lost if not for mikami killing takada in his death note after light specifically told him not to do anything. Near admitted light outplayed him
He was nice to light he even lied for light and wrote fake rules in the notebook but he will not withhold information about the death note he's on no one's team
@loisinonepiece5373 I think it's more than that... Ryuk, as a Shinigami, has Shinigami Eyes. He's known the time of Light's death since the beginning. And in this scene, when he knew it was very soon, he wasn't going to get in the way.
@@cronsola1357But that's a huge plot hole. Soichiro was happy with Light not being Kira. He wasn't even slightly concerned on his death bed that his son was about to die?
@ULTRANERD237 Near could have earned that "plot armor" status, but L had already done everything Near needed to do to earn it. He acts like he did something jaw-dropping when all he did was follow the instructions left by L. He may be legitimately brilliant, but he is standing in the shadow of someone so much better that he has no chance to do anything of note. The thing where they rewrote the death note in a single night is just bullshit though. That's simply not possible.
Well, I think the difference is that L wanted to be absolutely sure without a doubt that it was light. He seemingly gives him a lot of opportunities to prove he’s innocent, and slowly gains trust for him and starts believing in him
And L's biggest problem is that the author decided to add memory loss AND memory restoring qualities to the Death Note just to prevent Kira getting caught
Its terrifying how close light actually was. If he literally just chose one other guy or forgot to tell the dude about what will happen he would have won
@@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil the real challenge would be charging him due to the supernatural nature of the notebook. Turn into the Phoenix wright darkest universe
I love how people see them as heroes when in reality they're like swarming insects attacking the only one making a positive difference in the world. Even with the ego crap and this game of cat and mouse everyone agreed the world was a safer and brighter place. ✨️
Yeah well justice and all that shit. They're like Batman that would allow others spill blood and have theirs be spilled as long as he can keep his hands clean.
@@brothaonanadventure3573the ends don’t justify the means. And there’s no way to know how much of this “better” world was like North Korea where people are putting on a happy smile because there’s a sniper aiming at their heads all the time. The world of Kira would be a world filled with fear
I guess there’s no reason for him to expect ryuk to listen to human morals seeing as he’s not one of them. Kind of like how we never blame big cats or bears for attacking a human
Ryuk isn't for or against Light, he probably would've sold him out earlier if say, L got his hands on the book. Neir joins the fight with all the dominoes set up, all he had to do was knock them over. Doesnt help that light brought in more people, making it easier to pin him in the corner.
You’re right, trusting Mikami is what got him caught but it’s not cause Mikami was a dumbass. He just played the role of Kira too well. Him and Light were both the perfect embodiment of Kira so naturally they would think and act in the same way. The fuck up was Mikami deciding to act in the exact way Kira would about Takada, not realizing Light was gonna take care of it himself
@@Iamblack23thats nice and all, but the ending literrary doesnt make sense. So he didnt win just cuz they decided to make Death Note longer than it was supposed to be.
No his biggest mistake was killing Lind L Taylor. He got a hammer and everything became a nail. Moron. If you want to see an actually intelligent main character with a supernatural power not be retarded with it watch Code Geass.
People here saying Mikami got him caught but really what got them to this point in the first place and like 90% of why Kira lost here is cus despite everyone ignoring L's suspicions and even getting "proof" from the cheif that Light wasnt Kira, N basically just said "trust me bro" and all of a sudden half the task force switched sides and started investigating Light
Yeah, people forget that the whole point of light's and L's standstill was that they both knew they just didn't have the definitive proof/real identity to take the final step. Near just skipped that part.
To be fair, by that point enough had happened that warranted suspicion against Light. So when a deciple of L comes along with the exact same conclusions and theories as his predecessor - whom the task force trusted with their lives - considering the possibility became easier. On top of that, Light's ego and arrogance at "beating" L caused him to believe he was untouchable, which ultimately led to his defeat.
@@thetenthplanet_ yeah, I get that, just my main gripe has always been that they still suspected Light even after the Chief gave them what shoulda been definitive proof he was innocent by confirming he didn't have a death note with the shinigami eyes
Light's biggest mistake was going overboard from the start. If he just killed a few people here and there, nobody would even think of anything supernatural happening.
True and he also did it way too quickly between kills which obviously would only have him get caught faster plus in the anime ryuk says that any time before the persons actual death should be fine so light could’ve just had them die a year later or more and maybe just get rid of the book where no one can ever find it perhaps?
But that was what Light wanted, he wanted people to notice something supernatural was happening, recognize there must be some supernatural being killing bad people and decide to behave better
@@ikmalhakimharun3823 Well, you and I think this is stupid because we don't WANT the same things as Light, but if you see it from the point of view that he wanted to make everyone notice someone is intentionally killing people by supernatural means, then I guess it made sense to kill Lindt L Taylor.
That wasn’t even his biggest mistake. He could have gotten away with crazy mass murder. The issue is that he let L provoke him. It should have been impossible track Kira’s location given the fact he was doing the murders remotely.
@@bait5257what's done for thought processes and episode length and exposition doesn't equate to actual time movement. Internal monologue's tend to take the time needed to get the theme and tone across etc.
@@Frostbyte115 doesn't matter, you can't f ing think of 10 minutes in few seconds . Also , a dude copying note is crazy but light and L themselves aren't crazy ???
He needs people's names and faces, and he's up against genius detectives who don't reveal their names. It takes Shinigami eyes to reveal L, Mello and Near's names. That probably made it more difficult for Light.
@kshitijgh actually play not access to files on the police could access in a guy investigated two families which light was in one of them that's his mistake that could have been avoided ormade584
He really wouldn't have been if he just ignored L in the first place. But bro wanted him DEAD so he made plays to get close to L, revealing crucial information in the process. I mean, Light had a frickin notebook of death that no one's knew or could prove the existence of, yet he still lost in the end because of his ego.
Mean while L in afterlife : ohhh yah yah THEN WHAT THE FUCK WAS I TELLING ALL OF YOU FROM START Ayo: suiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii (Never got this many likes before let's make it 10k) thank you
@@wilkelektryk1550 I think there is as ruke mentioned that those who use death note will nither goes to hell not tho heaven that's mean there is after life for those who don't use death note and also for those who use the is a theory that they bcm Shinigamy And i didn't mean that they would mey but what I had said was in comical sense as while L seeing them now finding out that light is Kira that's would be good reaction
@@gamerpaymon5720Not sure if the anime kept it, but in the manga, one of the rules was that "The human who uses this note can neither go to Heaven nor Hell." Soooooo...no afterlife for them at all, from the way that sounds.
The appearance of Near and Mello is actually pretty smart though. Having a successor for someone as smart as L is really necessary when the world is so dependant on him. Its not about successing L, but successing what symbol L bring with him. But ppl are too attached to L alr
@@rainscentsthe problem isnt any of that. He just wanted Light to loose. If he didnt he wouldnt make up that replica of death note in one night which doesnt even make sense.
@@rainscents Yeah that is logical in a character like L. The part where Near discovers the Light follower its the part where the author use an deus ex machima type of power I mean, he just happens to know. But in a world of shinigamis, of course that can happend. But just have to be straight about it and dont call it intelligense 💀
@@jx5bur acting as if the author was only ass pulling near's plans. i guess u forgot that the author literally showed light able to avoid 64 cams while writing people's names without even looking inside the chips's bags. lol
@@ikmalhakimharun3823 So funny how anime so prised for its genius has so much bullshit in it. I especially hate the ending tho.. Like how tf did that dude perfectly replicate the already very long death note in one night!? Some cameras cmon.. thats nothing compared to that.
This feat that they pulled off is insane and is impossible. 1. They had to break into the vault leaving absolutely no evidence of being their and find his box with the death note 2. They would have had to copy many many names that both light and his goon wrote in the book for the years they've operated. 3. It had to be copied perfectly studied since it always went under inspection 4. They only had like 20 hours to accomplish it all.
@@bait5257I'd like you to point those out. Light literally set up everything over time, worked through it through days.. weeks.. months in some cases. Near broke in, made a copy to perfect detail and put it back in 20hrs? No planning time? That's plot armor. That's called a deus ex machina in a nutshell.
Would the notebook even have that many names? I always assumed that once light got finished with a page, like when it was filled or something, he would simply rip it out and burn it to get rid of evidence.
L knew he was kira.. L's only fault was that he wanted a friend who could be his equal in a world of absurdity. Near had the case handed to him on a platter.
Light was never L's equal. L only won because he had literal magic, a death god, and a 2nd magical person on his side. And L still deduced the truth in record time. On a level playing field, L would have intellectually danced circles around him.
@@TheCrimsonRevengerL controls all the world resources and governments and police and they do whatever he tells cause he's "L" while beign so much more experienced and doing this shi for years and being groomed into it like no he's beign raised by a mad scientist just to solve cases since he was a child no one knows his name or face wich came in handy in the kira case....while light id is just a dude and goes to school like everybody else and just happened to come across the notebook
@@TheCrimsonRevengerwhat i want to say light adapted to this intellectual battle thing really quickly while L was confronting criminal master minde and fellow super orphans since he could talk maybe before
@@TheCrimsonRevengernah light was always equal to L just saying he got 2 death notes and 2 shinigami on his side doesn't end it, the death note didnt help him much against L and the shinigamis barely helped him, and if you're gonna say rem helped him then just so you know light was the one who used rem, he took advantage from position rem was in, and if you say misa helped light then misa was more of a trouble then help to light, she made way too many slip ups and revealed too many information and her getting between l and light's battle was technically a disadvantage to light... P.S. - he didnt even use one of his death note which was buried under the ground the whole time he only used to get rid of its ownership
That's what Near had also investigated himself. L and Near both said that the Kira lets his emotions get the better off him. That was probably the last straw for Light.
@@seekingabsolution1907to be fair, if no character had plot armor, Kira would of won because there is zero possible way to track a killer who can kill from home leaving zero evidence and tracks. The only reason anything happened is because of Sherlock Holmes logic
Ehh I mean the show after L's death felt kind of rushed, can't really compare all the crazy deduction process he did at the beginning with the localized video of the prison inmate pretending to be him with what Mellow and Near did.
Light could have avoided all this by flying under the radar for a while and using his power to organize people under him, essentially pulling a court of owls and creating a hidden organization that helps him fulfill his goals.
He could've avoided basically everything by never trying to kill L and not using information from this dad's police files. L figured out exactly what region Light was in, and where the information was leaking from.
near's victory was probably the biggest bs moment in anime history.when the greatest detective in the world told them that light is kira,they refused to believe him.but this antisocial pos shows up and suddenly they feel like actually doing their job and catching light ?
Or maybe when the world's greatest detective...AND the world's 2nd greatest detective both come to the same conclusion, you take it a bit more seriously?
L never stated that Light was Kira even thought it was obvious to him. He knew it was him, but he didn’t have any hard evidence on him so he wasn’t willing to just get him locked up. That’s the difference between Near and L. Near wasn’t as great a detective as L, but he got stuff done. He wasn’t waiting on evidence or suspicion. He suspected Light without any reason and went after him purely on a hunch. That was an intentional decision. Whether or not you think it was a good decision is another thing, but I think it adds to the message and meaning of the story in a good way.
@@TheCrimsonRevenger "2nd best detective" as far as i'm aware near only started his career after L died.nowhere near enough time to become the greatest after L
Oh, they didn't do their job this time either (except Aizawa, Aizawa carries). Near had his own team to work with, and Light had exhausted some of his tricks.
If you really read the manga thoroughly, then you knew. L didn't knew Light was the Kira, L suspects it.. and try to investigate the evidence for it. That's the whole point for the plot collecting puzzles when each hints and clue were found after someone's death. That is why it puns the death note.
Near may have shut the case but don't forget, L was not only the smartest character in the series, he also knew beyond a doubt that Light was Kira. Unfortunately, he had his own personal flaws that caused him to "lose" by technicality.
@@lukeswift6146L had done all the work basically but couldn’t finish it. He entrusted it to near and melo. They took their time but eventually got to the result L almost got before dying
@@lukeswift6146it was supposed to end when L died, but they were too hungry for money so they extended it with this crap and let Kira loose in a way that doesnt even make sense. So you are bscly right. If you dont know why the ending didnt make any sense try writing a book long like 400 pages with about 1000 letters on one page in japan in one night, gl.
nah not crazy for if you are then i am crazy too coz i wanted light to win and thing the ending isnt the ending we deserve Near cheated Light when all suspicions of light shouldve been dropped when Chief Yagami did the Eyes deal and said Light wasnt Kira
@@RoxasOnSummerVacation agreed and also the fact that him losing it when accused by N is completely out of character compared to the Light we grew to know and love
@RoxasOnSummerVacation Tbh his goal in the starting was righteous, however over time he started killing innocent people as well, like Naomi, Raye Penber, L, the chief and even considered killing his own sister! Even at his Dad's death bed, only thing in his mind was make his Dad write Mello's name in the notebook. I think he lost his goal overtime and let his ego get better off him. He lost any feelings of grief and love towards other, he was just a living rock with evil mind.
Probably an unpopular opinion but I really like Near and the fact he beat light. Like I know a lot of people think he’s not as good as L and L should have won or whatever but it makes sense Near won he was Ls successor and succeeds where L failed. L made it far to personal his need for it to be Light and his inability to work well and openly with others who he felt were less than him was his ultimate downfall. Near wins because he’s able to work with others it’s him AND his team that beat Light on top of that he never got overly close and personal with light he treated the case like a detective. Near fought for justice whilst L fought for his own prided, L ultimately didn’t care about justice or saving lives he just wanted to show he was better and smarter than Light
The difference between L and Near is that L needs to be 100%... that is why even though almost all arrows point to Light, L still couldn't say that he is Kira... because he wants to be 100% accurate first... where as Near doesn't need to be... Also, M's sacrifice is what really brought the downfall of Light...
PEOPLE SERIOUSLY SHOULD READ THE MANGA!! It cut out many chapters… I think I recall estimating about 18 or so chapters. These help develop Near and Mello more as characters. Plus, the reasoning is more throughly explained. Also, Matsuda gives out a theory after Light dies by saying Near was controlling Mikami’s actions which would explain why he didn’t check to see if it was fake or not. The story always foreshadowed Light would die. The creators said that was always the end game. L being the one to do it would be cliche and like every story ever made. I’m so tired of the whole “Well after L died…” it’s such a bandwagon thing to say that I’m convinced a number of people saying it DIDN’T ACTUALLY take the time to look into after the time skip part.
@@primenumberbuster404thank you. Most people don’t bother to do the research or they complain since it didn’t end like their “ideal” ending. I’ve watched/read some analyses of the storyline and they’ve helped explain a lot!
I'm convinced that half the fandom just hates Near because he's short 😂 (As in, since he looks so young, they think he's much younger than he actually is, and then they think his character is unrealistic for somebody "his age")
If Light had been a real G. He would have written him name in the book a long time ago. "If my identity is ever revealed, I would die peacefully on the spot."
Near won because he was able to prove it undeniably. Remember light is the king of gaslighting. Light's father took the eyes and owned a notebook and Light still pulled a maneuver to make him think he wasn't kira. Unless you prove it undeniably kira will just gaslight you till even you yourself believe you are wrong. It's only a matter of time.
idk man I always hated Near for some reason, I'm not pressed light lost or anything but fuck, a like 13 year old boy outsmarts the guy who taught this kid everything but he just gets it?
Near was a great character. He's just so far outclassed by L that literally no one they replaced him with would had been satisfactory. From a narritive point, killing L was a good decision and opened up a way for the manga to go forward. If things had continued the way they had then the manga would had nowhere else to go unless Light started making mistakes which would had been uncharacteristic of him resulting in a bad manga. But what most people do not realize or accept is that Near is two people. Mello is the other half of Near and ot was only because they somehow figured out that mikami had a fake notebook that he saw his only path to forcing mikami to making a mistake big enough to get near's attention. It was because he sacrificed himself that near was able to checkmate kira.
They wouldve had to touch the notebook and Light kept it hidden for as long as he could. Only people who have touched any of the notebooks can communicate with a shinigami
@@muffinboi4134 yes but I mean when they had the notebook, they could have asked something like « Hey, do you know who Kira is? » or something like that x)
Ryuk is not necessarily bound to answer their questions, and considering that the whole purpose of putting the Deathnote into the human world in the first place was to watch what happens for his own entertainment, I doubt whether Ryuk would give him up knowing it would promptly end his fun.
He didn't outplay Light, he simply came across the fact that Mikami had another Notebook because he went against Light's orders and since Mello kidnapped (the woman) and mikami brought out his notebook to kill her.
one person can't do it alone magic notebook or not; and while he killed many criminals, that's not accounting for the countless inmates who were framed for crimes. Not to mention the media could literally convince him to kill whoever they so please by spreading propaganda.
Bro the way he chose was not worth it. Whatever light did is still a crime and I don't see him as anything but one, even if he brought some positive change, he is nothing but man who lost his way.
Might remember it wrong, bit i recall L and his butler had a whole orphanage full of kids like Near. Which means it doesnt matter if Near got lucky, another would have taken his place and they would just pick up where the last one left off. Eventually Light would make a mistake.
You see, it's great when someone actually gets the whole point of the show. The only reason Light was the mc was bcz nobody was there to replace him. L is not the protagonist and could be replaced with as many as of them to counter Light.
The last 2 episodes of death note anime are the best 2 final episodes in recent anime history. It's amazing how they managed to craate such simple tension and Uber dramatic suspense at the same time. Yes. The manga finale is better...duh ..but. in terms of anime adaptation. This one rocks
Near never got the respect he deserved because people loved L so much that they hated this new brat coming in But he’s awesome and carried on the spirit of L perfectly
pretty sure it also got way more rushed from the point L died, so they didn't give Near enough time to prove his worth as a successor to L to the audience
@@Shadowlurkering his plan was perfect but his partner didn't follow through he even told him not to do anything by himself and yeah the real death note ends where L dies they made the parts later to earn money
@@lightyagami9963 A perfect plan would take into account everything including your partners being stupid, greedy, or incompetent. A perfect plan requires a perfect person and nobody in Death Note was written to be a perfect person.
@Shadowlurkering I agree. Though you have to admit Lights plan on turning himself in to L was damn near perfect as well. He set it up so that no matter what happened he'd end up on top as either Kira or L's Partner.
@@ShadowlurkeringA perfect plan doesnt have to take into account all possible variables. If you get a plan that get your objetive at 100% probability if followed, its perfect, but you cant prevent a thunder from killing you or a madman fron killing your partner out of nowhere. The plan in itself was perfect, failing in following it does not taint the plan, just the person
you know the worst part, Crime rate decend so low that Game Theory prove that Kira even if he kill a lot of bad people was actually really good to stop crime in japan. He killed less people than crime actually does, so the kill WAS the good guy.